Why doesn't anyone mention that MEN are always the bombers/mass shooters in acts of terror?
The right and left media wants to divide us with speculation that this or that tragedy is the result of Al Qaeda or black or brown people or weird white geeks or crazy white militia people.
But what the media is ignoring is that ALWAYS it's men that do this shit. Regardless.
And doesn't that suggest that maybe there's just something wrong with men in general?
Bitch say what?
Yeah, that's it. There's something wrong with every man on earth. You'll go far with astute insight like that.
You don't fucking talk to OP like that R2.
Well, men made, built, designed and invented practically everything so it's only fair that we're the ones who get to destroy it all too.
Let's watch datalounge explode on this one.
Meanwhile Someone try to dig up all the the threads where someone claimed that some random woman failing at X mean no women would ever succeed in that field again.
Just as I suspected, men really don't like it when you point this out.
Well it is true. I'd narrow it further down to straight men in 99% of cases. What is wrong with them and why can't they control their rage?
From my casual following of the news, it seems like a high proportion of the Palestinian suicide bombers in Israel are women.
Oh please r8. There were about 2 or 3 women and hundreds of men. And you know these women were convinced by men to do it.
r7 is right. Our gay brothers are far too well socialized to engage in such acts. It's always misfit straight motherfuckers.
Because as a rule, men are active and women are passive.
Most of the bad in the world is perpetrated by men, and also most of the good. Almost all the wars and human misery can be traced to men. Almost all the advances human-kind has made can be traced to men.
Women just lie back and whine, complain, plot and breed.
Women do get together to plan bombings, but then they remember they have to leave for three hours to pick up their kids from school and there is no one left to finish the job.
[quote]Women just lie back and whine, complain, plot and breed.
[quote]And doesn't that suggest that maybe there's just something wrong with men in general?
As opposed to, say, women who voluntarily haunt a gay male site.
Women are not organized and smart enough to do anything like this, or its less violent counterparts. They are herd creatures but they're like cattle - they just mill around and chew their cud and moo at each other, nonstop. And of course they dribble when a bull is around.
It takes intelligence, drive, commitment and energy to do anything complex. Even terrible things. History is mostly the story of men because women simply don't do much and never have.
And one thing no one talks about is how our society started collapsing as soon as women were in the workforce everywhere. Everything is degraded because of their bullshit.
[quote]Women are not organized and smart enough to do anything like this
LOL HA HA HA H AH hahahahahahahh ahahaha
* wipes tears * Omg you people are truly ignorant.
Well, you don't hear anyone referring to the bomber as "he or she," do you?
R16, bake sales, wrapping bandages under the direction of men, mopping floors and sealing envelopes are not the same as developing and planning complex activities. And I'm not saying that an occasional woman has a man's ability to handle logistics. But strategy - no. Visualization and design - no. Dynamic implementation - no.
Women can follow a recipe and they can behave in a committed way if they "feel" they are doing something important. But nothing of consequence - for good or bad - has ever come from a woman-driven enterprise. Not without men actually doing the real work.
[quote]But nothing of consequence - for good or bad - has ever come from a woman-driven enterprise. Not without men actually doing the real work.
What makes you think I won't cut you?
Womyn never do this, because we shout "TRIGGER WARNING" before we shoot.
Yes, there is a problem with straight men and rage/violence.
There are women and gay men who have the same kind of issues but very few.
Notice how there was never any doubt in anyone's mind that it was men who did this.
Yet we don't talk about deporting all men, like we'd be doing if we found out it was an Islamic guy ("DEPORT ALL MUSLIMS!!")
Such bizarre double-standards.
R28 is SOOOOOOOOO edumaficated and steeped in responsible research.
How about a list of LGBT serial killers, dear?
The point is not to denigrate us LGBT people, but to underscore that we are not different from the general population. Get that? WE ARE NOT DIFFERENT as far as actual statistics. But do note how many of the names are quite famous.
John Wayne Gacy
Gilles de Rais
Luis Alfredo Garavito
Randy Steven Kraft
Patrick Wayne Kearney
David D. Hill
Elmer Wayne Henley
David Owen Brooks
Adolfo de Jesus Constanzo
Marcelo Costa de Andrade
Henry Lee Lucas
Orville Lynn Majors
Arthur Gary Bishop
Westley Allan Dodd
David P. Brown
David Edward Maust
Another man hate thread. So not surprised. Women kill all the time they just get treated better by the media for it. Everyone wants to blame the man. That shit needs to stop.
R31, you're a fucking idiot. Jesus.
As long as we have a patriarchal society where war and pornography are viewed as acceptable, we will not get any better.
The problem is not men but the caveman bullshit that has been forced down their throats for ages. There are plenty of decent men out there, but they get overshadowed by those who still think dick measuring contests are a substitute for intelligence.
Deport to where?
If you see a double standard, I can only infer that either:
men and Muslims should be deported
men and Muslims should not be deported.
Also worth noting that the men who perpetrate acts of terror generally don't care whether their victims are male or female. Your example of "deport an Islamic guy" is simplistic- if a terrorist is an Islamic guy, based on fact, I am more inclined to believe the actions were carried out in the name of Islam than to further male dominance. As for the deport-all-Muslims mentality, I have never seen a demographic that has suggested that anti Islam is a male specific prejudice.
R34, your inability to reason, follow simple logic or allegory, or even grasp the point being made by the OP and others is kind of amusing, kind of sad.
OP, you sound fat.
What's the solution, OP?
No R35, what you mean is inability to accept without argument. The inability here is inability to get past the idea that men being the perpetrators means men are 'defective' and not look at the wider issues of oppression and conditioning of both women and men, by both women and men.
But OP just posits there is something generally wrong with men.
I assume she's smarting about the Mich Fest thread, but who knows?
[quote]The inability here is inability to get past the idea that men being the perpetrators means men are 'defective' and not look at the wider issues of oppression and conditioning of both women and men, by both women and men.
No, you're still missing the point.
Nobody is ACTUALLY saying that. They're mocking the constant "We know it's muslims" and the (actual, real, public) reaction of "KILL ALL MUSLIMS" right after the explosion. How people blame an entire race for things ... and how one event like this with a member of that race PROVES that prejudice... but nobody notices that they're all men (which is also true). Or when the guy turns out to be white, how nobody blames all white people.
Are you really this dense?
Fuck off R40. You are an idiot.
This is a troll thread. Treat it accordingly.
Actually this isn't a troll thread, r40.
I seriously think it's interesting how people are so quick to break down by race/ethnicity but not by gender when basically all mass shootings/bombings and attempted shooting/bombings are the work of men.
I thought of this while happening upon Rush Limbaugh's radio show for about 2 minutes yesterday afternoon while he was gleeful about CNN's not-yet-known-to-be-erroneous report that a dark-skinned person was arrested and how horrible it was that liberals wanted a white person to be responsible for it instead of a dark-skinned person.
Yet what I see as the elephant in the room is that the one common denominator among all mass shootings/bombings in the U.S. seems to be that men perpetrate them. And neither right-wing racists like Rush or bleeding heart liberals ever even bother to comment on the fact which I think is weird when at the same time people try so har to figure out what the motive is of people that do this stuff.
The shooter who inspired "I Don't Like Mondays" was a girl.
plus SLA SLA!
R43, breaking things down by gender is too broad of a breakdown. It's either a man or a woman. Sort of an uninteresting because of that.
Of course men do most of the violent acts in society. From an evolutionary perspective, that was a man's job. To protect land, family, food by any means necessary. A woman's job was child rearing. Division of labor. Obviously, those lines have blurred, or even been erased, thankfully, through modernization and rational thinking. But we're still animals, with instincts. Our lower brain demonstrates this over and over, even as our higher brain demonstrates complex thought, etc. Both are part of our human affect. Men, when threatened, whether that threat is real or imagined, or much more likely to strike out violently than women.
I much prefer the thread in which we hate God.
I would not put it past Julie. She's a female, I think...
[quote]What is wrong with them and why can't they control their rage?
One word: testosterone.
Men have an innate desire to teach people/society lessons...especially when they feel victimized. Women pretty much keep their aggression focused on lovers who scorned them, as well as their children.
Yea women are the worst. Vile creatures those dirty things are.
I don't know, R50. I kind of consider A Woman Scorned: The Betty Broderick Story to be one of the greatest contributions to television.
R45, and breaking things down by race isn't broad? At least gender is an actual scientifically measurable distinction unlike most racial constructs, especially "whiteness."
But yeah you're right we're all animals. And animals like female lions hunt cooperatively while male lions hunt alone. Because the male lions are selfish douchebags that don't give a shit about their fellow species.
Oh, honey -- don't you know by now that testosterone is the root of all evil?
When a lesbian hates men, she's an asshole -- but when gay men hate women, it's justified.
r30 - I'll see your list and raise it with killers of their OWN children:
Alexandra V. Tobias
Darlie Lynn Routier
Robin Lee Row
Monica Christine McCarrick
Casey Marie Anthony
Mary Beth Tinning
China P. Arnold
Michelle Sue Tharp
Socorro (Cara) Caro
Theresa Michelle Lewis
Frances Elaine Newton
The men who have killed their own children are so numerous it would take a lifetime to list them here.
And that doesn't even take into account the countless men who rape their own children.
But give up, ladies; men will never admit this and straight women have a vested interest in perpetuating the myth that men are stronger, faster, smarter, etc.
We lesbians are the only group who can see this issue clearly, and even then, most lesbians are too stupid or lazy or self-centered or fearful to face these truths head-on.
Testosterone (and straight womens' fascination with it) is the root of all evil.
[quote]nothing of consequence - for good or bad - has ever come from a woman-driven enterprise.
Exactly, r5. I think that's what OP is getting at. It's a legitimate question - why are men considered individuals while members of other groups are considered representative of their respective groups? No one expects one man to answer for all other men's actions, but one bad female boss represents all female bosses, one woman "sets back all other women," etc. It's a valid observation that OP had, but it was met by clueless misogyny.
Well, then, off to iVillage.
It's obvious the most important thing to OP is this: And doesn't that suggest that maybe there's just something wrong with men in general?
He/She just wants validation of that point alone, to see the board agree that all men have something wrong with them.
Which is why he/she is somewhere between stupid and troll but not to be taken seriously in any event.
Was there something innately wrong with Ghandi? Or Martin Luther King? etc. etc. etc. etc.
OP = Misandrist cunt with daddy issues. Thinks women who kill men are heroes. Trolls websites day and night looking for more ways to post her sex-based hate.
women are not made to kill; women are made to give birth to and nuture male children, who will then grow up to kill
Why is it that women always give birth to the people who do these horrible things? Come to think of it, women are often involved in the parenting of these bombers and mass shooters as well. How do you answer to THAT all of womankind?
I always notice and am more suspicious of male strangers than ever.
I don't think anyone who kills anyone is a hero.
Nor do I think all men are prone to violence, r61.
Nor am I a troll. I've been here since the summer of 2004!
I just happen to think there is some sort of biological/psychological/sociological connection between men and senseless violence, and that connection is much stronger than a connection between any particular religion/race/ethnicity and senseless violence that people (mostly men) are trying to push on us all the time to scapegoat a particular religious/racial/ethnic group.
Please don't let them be WHITE, Please don't let them be WHITE, Please don't let them be ...
r65 ALL MEN are prone to violence, it is the nature of man.
It goes without saying a bomber would be a man. What woman could build a working bomb without killing herself in the process, actually get to her intended destination by herself, and successfully set it off.
I'm sure there are hundreds of woman bombers on our freeways right now driving 45mph in the fast lane with the parking brake engaged, lost, and plastering on makeup in their vanity mirrors. One day soon, one of them is bound to succeed.
Misogynists have the unparalleled ability to twist even a clear negative into "evidence" of so-called superiority.
Men make up a little less than half of the population but are responsible for a majority of violence. Virtually all mass shooters, terrorists, rapists and child pornography consumers are men. While men love to stereotype and marginalize all other groups especially women, they get angry and violent (what else) when asked about why men are so unstable, violent and angry.
I suppose all the constant stories about women molesting teenage boys, shooting their husband in the back and murdering them, people like Crystal Magum, all of those women who murder their husbands and lovers and walk out of court free or get slaps on the wrists because they were having PMS, the serial murdering women, etc. etc. etc. were completely lost on the OP, who clearly has a hate of men.
Yes, more murderers are men.. Most are black men, but you wouldn't dare go there, would you OP?
However, women serve, on average only a third of the time in prison their male counterparts do.
A little context for your ignorant rant. Now go cover your head in your vagina cape and sob for your failed life.
"I'm sure there are hundreds of woman bombers on our freeways right now driving 45mph in the fast lane with the parking brake engaged, lost, and plastering on makeup in their vanity mirrors. One day soon, one of them is bound to succeed."
Typical male logic: a combination of denial, misogyny and outright lying while stupidly standing your ground. SHOCKER:MOST ACCIDENTS ARE CAUSED BY MEN.
R72. True, but while trying to avoid the woman swerving madly, stopping for no reason whatsoever and/or on the wrong side of the road
[r73]: nah, they're just jerking off while driving. Because unstable men can't go for 3 minutes without thinking, talking or showing their dicks.
"I suppose all the constant stories about women molesting teenage boys, shooting their husband in the back and murdering them, people like Crystal Magum, all of those women who murder their husbands and lovers and walk out of court free or get slaps on the wrists because they were having PMS, the serial murdering women, etc. etc. etc. were completely lost on the OP, who clearly has a hate of men."
I suppose the men who suffer from a "sleep disorder" and get away with raping women and yes, their own daughters, "in their sleep" are clearly lost on you who clearly has a hate of women.
There is a female here that has some male type of anger issues.
you dykes are nasty. fk off. coming from a man.
We own you dykes. Without us, i don't know where women would be doing.
women are just stupid.
Jesus, this isn't a DL thread it's a politicized community theater production of Who's Afraid of Virginia Woolf - for those of you who don't know, it's a brutal play. It is, of course, written by a man.
R74. But while thinking about a nice big rack that wasn't covered properly.
bump for crazy women thinking they don't drive men to commit atrocities
Michael Moore @MMFlint 5h
I guessed correctly. The bombings were not carried out by women.
at least somebody noticed!
I read after some mass killing that women don't tend to perpetrate these kind of crimes because when they kill, it's personal. They want YOU dead. That's why they're generally not involved in these mass, indiscriminate type killings - they kill with a specific target & intent in mind.
I also think that women generally don't have the same sense of entitlement that men (particularly white men) Finally, I think women are taught to swallow their anger - though it's true that younger women are far more violent - and tend to act in more passive aggressive ways. That's not true of all women of course, but most.
We just tease someone until they develop an eating disorder.
[quote]. Finally, I think women are taught to swallow their anger -
If the sentence stopped after swallow, you would find less aggressive, and happier, men!
Because women are taught to be passive. Surely you knew that OP.
That's a good point, R63. Why do they care so little for their creations? Why do they abandon them to become these monsters?
As a general rule, women have a tendency to internalize and blame/hurt themselves, while men have a tendency to externalize and blame/hurt others.
OP >>>> Sexist
Wrong, r87. Women blame others for their mistakes too. They just target those that hurt them, while men hurt everyone around them.
Some women, r89. But I think the typical female is more likely to be violent towards herself than others. Girls in severe emotional pain are more likely than boys to cut themselves or develop an eating disorder instead of shooting up a school.
You hit the nail on the head R63. So did you R88.
R90. The same logic from R68 applies to shootings.
"Why is it that women always give birth to the people who do these horrible things? Come to think of it, women are often involved in the parenting of these bombers and mass shooters as well. How do you answer to THAT all of womankind?"
Even for DL logic that is a pretty fucking stupid thing to say.
Last I checked, terrorists have fathers, too, involved in their parenting and the creation of these losers.
R93 - you live in a very literal world, don't you? I wrote it. That was satire, not meant to be taken literally.
But I will take your heartfelt words to heart.
Again - that's satire, not meant to be taken literally.
R94. What do cock and satire have in common?
Lesbians just don't get it.
[r94] & [r94]: Please. If you have on DL before you know there's good potential for a statement like that NOT to be satire.
[quote][[R94]] & [[R94]]: Please. If you have on DL before you know there's good potential for a statement like that NOT to be satire.
You don't have to tell me twice.
The crazy Chechens who took over the theater in Moscow in 2002 were mostly all women. They held 850 people captive
R40, Muslim is not a race fist and foremost. It is a religion with a very destructive fringe cult that is murderously hostile to other religions.
Burying your head in the sand and constantly proclamining that not all Muslims are terrorists is not going to make the problem of the ones who are terrorists go away. The apologists always bring up the Christian Crusades to somehow legitimize what Islamists are doing. The Crusades happened in 1000-1300. This is fucking 2013. Join this century and deal with what's happening now.
Instead of giving Islam a pass (which nobody would ever do if the terrorists had been Christians, just imagine), society should be asking what to do about this problem because they are going to turn this country into a war zone.
One thing is to stop letting so many people in from Muslim countries. As their numbers increase we are going to have a worse problem on our hands. This is only the beginning. There is no assimilating the radicals. Media is asking why did they do this if they grew up in the States, as if they will love us once they get to know us. It's not gonna happen folks. Their values are plain contradictory to ours and no amount of appeasing is going to change it.
As for MEN being the perpetrors of terror, the OP is not wrong, and making fun of women is a distraction. The fact is that men are genetically wired to battle or hunt for survival and that instinct is not productive in a modern society. It has to be managed somehow. We no longer live in the bush where fighting lions and tigers is the way to survive and thrive.
I don't hate women. I hate that some women seek to cast all men as evil. But I guess they're less interested in common ground that in feeding their own fury.
R100, if your mother did not have the instinct to feed your sorry ass, you'd have starved to death.
So, call your mom and thank her for putting up with your dad and a lot shit so you'd have a chance.