Would one of you Brits please explain her to me? I only knew of her from my cousins who lived in the UK at the time. I watched some of her early videos today and she kind of makes me cringe.
She wasn't punk, really. She was kind of New Wave, I guess. But she wasn't cool and seemed to lack street credibility. She seemed kind of dorky, but in a purposefully arty kind of way. She had a unique look, and her music was different. But it sort of defied labels.
I hate to call her a fake. But I don't think she was real rock and roll either.
You're right. She has absolutely no credibility and is considered a joke as a punk. Good as a pop star for the time, but one of those naff things you look back on and laugh. Hasn't stood the test of time.
She's basically this posh stage school girl/actress who fell into it. She was in Jarman's Jubilee, though, I believe with a luscious Adam Ant. She moved into TV presenting from the 90s.
Married to Robert Fripp too, apparently, which is weird. He has nothing but credibility.
Thanks, R1. I tried to like Toyah but it always seemed like she was playing at being a pop artist rather than actually being one. As if the character was created for a TV movie by middle-aged writers who thought they knew what an edgy rock singer was like.
Lol, I did think it was Hazel O'Connor that the OP was talking about. Now, she was a right poseur.
I was a megastar in Hungary!!
Oh I forgot she was married to Robert Fripp. Definitely the coolest thing about her.
She was in Quadrophenia as well, that's what links Hazel O'Connor and her - Phil Daniels is in Quadrophenia and Breaking Glass.
I would definitely recommend Hazel btw. Breaking Glass and its rather excellent soundtrack is classic camp/kitsch as opposed to Toyah who just fails!
This is strange.Here you are all bithching about somebody who was popular 30 years ago. It`s not like she`s Lady Gaga or somebody like that.
Is this datalounge.uk ?
Thanks to this thread I've been watching Hazel O'Connor on YouTube as well. She's not bad. Better and less annoying than Toyah. There's more THERE there, if you know what I mean.
I like Hazel's "Decadent Days" but the TV performances of that song are annoying. All that jumping around.
It's almost as if Toyah, and to some extent Hazel were trying to be Kate Bush, Nina Hagen, Siouxsie Sioux, and Lene Lovich all rolled into one. Kate, Nina, Siouxsie, and Lene were each bizarre in their own way but they were authentic and real and made it work.
Or maybe they were trying to be female Bowies
Anyway, I guess Toyah was an omen of things to come. No one will be original in the future. Pop stars will be corporate-created, over-produced imitations of artists that came before them.
My English cousins were fans of Toyah and I understand why. But they never mention her now or even listen to her music as far as I know. If they listen to old music from those days it's Blondie, Clash, Bowie, etc. The stuff that stands up.
I'm thinking about Toyah Willcox WAY too much.
Her "Minx" album from 1986 is good and has a lot of good pop songs.
She was sexy in her rubber dress in the video for "Don't Fall in Love".
It's a mythtery, OP.
I kept me hair short when I was a kid because it stood on end when it grew out and I looked like her.
Not a bad performer at all. Not that eclectic though. I listened to some of her stuff, she is not a bad singer-songwriter, however, she doesn't come close to some favorites like Lisa Dalbello and Kate Bush, speaking of creativity and control over the music itself. Her 1991 album "Ophelia's Shadow" is her best, I really like the direction change to a more progressive pop/rock atmosphere with some very good whispering vocals. As a person she seems a confident, happy-married woman, however, she is not one of those creative introvert female singer-songwriters I most adore.