Apparently Joan Rivers' outrageous bon mots about celebrity style is not as adlibbed as she would want you to believe. The only problem is she won't pay the writers. I guess Mellissa Rosenberg, who's only job is producing the show can't even get that right.
This is getting uglier than that flimsy Courtney Love harlot runway dress essentially stolen for her by her underpaid stylist.
She should get down on her knees and thank God for those writers. She's the funniest thing on Fashion Police because of their jokes.
Writers just have to wipe the E! glamour (yeah, right) out of their eyes and fucking refuse to write for these shows. They're degrading to watch and work for.
You mean they actually have writers for that shitty show? Wow, I wonder how pathetic it is without writers.
The show actually has TWELVE writers who write only for Joan. The other three hosts wing it.
What makes Joan's lack of support for her writers even more appalling is that she is a longtime member of the Writers Guild of America.
Shame on her!
Oh please. Joan only has loyalty so long as she gets paid. If someone threatens that, then fuck 'em.
The writing staff of Fashion Police now has more scabs than Joan Rivers' face after a cosmetic procedure.
Oh! Oh! It is just--
Joan is fucking her writers just like she fucked Johnny Carson. She has ZERO loyalty to anyone.
this reminds me of that hilarious gag from The Simpsons where Ned asks Homer to help him live a little, and they go to Las Vegas. Joan accosts him on the sidewalk screaming "Would you like to be in the audience for my infomercial? (Ned runs off) Help me, my daughter's not talented!"
Who knew there were writers?
I'm a regular viewer. The show isn't as funny without the writers. It's been noticable since the strike began. BTW, drag queen, Jackie Beat is a writer on the show. He raised money on Give Forward to have hip surgery. He got $44k out of the $50k he was looking for. Joan donated an undisclosed amount. I'm guessing it was less than $1000 because I looked at the total raise early on and from the contributions I saw it would be less than that.
A jew is a jew is a jew.
In your case, troll at R25, a jerk is a jerk is a jerk.
Fuck off, bigot, no one wants your kind around here.
I've not noticed much difference in Joan's jokes. Crude, vulgar, but sometimes funny.
"That dress is so high, we can see Mila's cunis."
The Chinese orphans who assemble Joan's crappy costume jewelry for QVC get paid more than her comedy writers.
If Joans such a great comedian, can't she write some jokes?
Also, its ridiculous that they're only getting paid $24000 a year. You can't live off of that in the midwest, let alone LA.
Joan Rivers is a greedy coward.
I'm going to assume that they're getting SAG/Aftra rates.
Joan has crossed the picket line of her own show. She's a scab.
They are writers not actors r31
I'm sorry, WGAW rates.
R27, that quote is recycled material from a couple of years ago.
Kind of shocked they have "a dozen writers"
Joan has not reached out to any of her writers since the strike began and prior to that, refused to even discuss with them their desire to have Fashion Police covered by a WGA contract.
Where's the surprise though, she's a Republican, exploiting the poor is standard operating procedure for them.
That dress had more dark things hanging off it than Angelina Jolie.
If that outfit were any shorter you could see inside her vajayjay.
That slit in the back has probably opened and closed more times than Kristie Alley's refrigerator.
I had an ottoman set like that once.
Link please R37.
Joan writes her own jokes, and always has. It's the others on the panel who need the writers.
Besides, it's not her show. Yes, her daughter is executive producer, but she is only following the network's orders.
E! is responsible for this. Stop blaming it on Joan just because you have an irrational hatred of her and her daughter.
R40 How about you stop defending Joan so desperately just because she's your outdated "diva" or "gay icon"?
Do they need scabs? You average DLer could write those "jokes."
Quote from The Hollywood Reporter...
"The letter also said that Rivers “emphatically support(s) the writers.” However, Todd Masterson, one of the show’s writers, told THR that a meeting with Rivers had gone badly. “We wanted to get a contract, we wanted to talk about it and when we approached Joan and the producers and stuff, we were completely shot down. Just completely shot down. It was at a meeting one day, and Joan just blew up, and there was cussing and throwing things and -- it was bad.”
Fan or not, R40 may be correct. Neither Joan nor her daughter have anything to do with their salaries, do they? The writers are E employees.
Shouldn't this be a union issue?
I remember a few years ago Paula Deen was the spokesperson for some company-- Smithfield?--which was having employee troubles. They tried to involve Deen in their grievance but she made it clear that, however sympathetic she was, this wasn't her fight.
Unintentionally, I've not been watching the show since this strike.
I usually came across it while flipping channels and I stayed for the jokes. I suspect that when I've landed on it recently it's not been funny, so I keep moving.
I've also noticed that I don't come across the show as much these days, which makes me wonder if E! pulled the constant repeats cause no one's watching them.
Does it mention if the writers' pay was increased when the show doubled in length and they would theoretically have to write twice as much?
Seriously, how much $ should be paid to writers who just have to produce variations on," That purse is bigger than Lea Michele's labia"?
Joan does NOT write her own jokes. That's why the show has 12 writers. It's a joke sweatshop that will never satiate her endless insecurity to have more, more, more material.
To those people defending Joan, yet understand nothing about the strike and the reasons behind it, I invite you to read any of the numerous links above.
Who's stupid idea was it to stretch the show from half and hour to a full hour? The show should have been left at half an hour.
I agree with R50. Obviously the writers are valuable and worth more than they're getting considering the jokes now are even worse than they were before.
Isn't E responsible for their salaries? Why Joan?!
Joan may not technically control salaries, but it is her show and she could use her influence to get them raises if that's what she wanted. She figures what's in it for her? The show becomes less profitable, more likely to be cancelled, with higher staff costs. So the penny-pinching old cunt has no interest in helping them.
Is she the producer? I thought Ryan Seacrest produced most of the shows on E!.
R53 It's sad that even at 80 years old the old cunt is STILL obsessed with money and doesn't care about anyone but herself.
If she thinks her writers aren't worth more, maybe her old ass should try writing "jokes" herself.
If you had read any of the links R52, you would know that some of the writers are paid by E! and some by Joan's company.
Salary aside, Joan can and should wield her enormous power to force the network to give her writers the WGA contract they deserve.
Instead, she hides behind E! and pretends nothing is happening. If she "emphatically supports" her writers as E! keeps claiming, where is an official statement from Joan? Crickets...
She does NOT support her striking writers and, as a Writers Guild of America member herself for decades, is a disgrace to the profession for crossing the picket line of her own show.
Joan Rivers is a cheap, miserly, coward who treats her hard-working writers like slaves.
Save your tanking show and reputation, Joan. Do the right thing and support your striking writers by walking off the show until they E! agrees to giving them a WGA contract.
is a disgrace to her profession
The only reason that the writers on E!'s other hit shows (The Soup and Chelsea Lately) got WGA contracts, is because their hosts (Joel McHale and Chelsea Handler) personally called the President of E! and said, "Give my writers a WGA contract, or I walk off the show". Ten minutes later, the writers had their contract.
Joan Rivers on the other hand, refuses to make that phone call on behalf of her writers. Now, if a Joel McHale has that kind of power, then do does Joan.
Writers on The Soup and Chelsea Lately earn, based on the minimums paid for comedy-variety shows, $3000 per week plus full medical benefits, pension, paid vacation, residuals and foreign residuals.
Writers on Fashion Police earn, with no WGA contract in place to protect them, $640 per week (before taxes) with zero benefits. It is also a comedy-variety show and one of the top-rated shows on E!.
Joan Rivers could put an end to the strike and get her writers a WGA contact in two minutes, but she won't.
People should be asking Joan this very simple question. "Why won't you help your writers?"
Can we talk, Joan?
Ladies and gentlemen! Please welcome to our stage Miss Joan "Crickets" Rivers!
You know Joan is in the wrong about this because she hasn't said a word publicly. When has she ever kept silent about anything?
What a sad, old, cowardly cunt.
Most of Joan's writers on Fashion Police are gay. Joan does not support the gays.
They've been on strike almost two months now and not a peep from Rivers. She's pathetic.
Joan is now in deep shit with the WGA and she brought it upon herself.
Let's see her try and talk her way out of this mess.
I never did like her.
Ifollow Jackie Beat...one of the writers...she is not happy fighting with Joan....but is apparently getting disgusted with the lack of resolution...the powers that be in whore-y wood better get it together and realize it ALL comes down to the writing!!!
I too am disgusted this hasn't been resolved as a long-time viewer. She comes across as greedy.
[quote]She comes across as greedy.
Really? You think?
I don't hate the gays!!!!!!!! I even married one!!!!!!!!
Jackie Beat is in the video at R65
Faster! Faster! Melissa wants a pony!
That video at R65 speaks volumes about how uncooperative she is and what anger issues she has. The fact that she blew up after someone said one sentence shows what a fake, greedy bitch she is. She only likes people as long as everything's going great for her. To hell with everyone else.
Maybe the old cunt should take a tip from fellow E! star Chelsea Handler who actually spoke up for her staff and got them better pay.
Didn't Joan say in her documentary that she pays for all sorts of extended family & even the kids of her staff members to attend college? She made herself out to look very giving in that piece.
R76 Are you really that naïve??? You don't think she's going to show footage of what a greedy cunt she is, do you?
All you have to do is watch her when she was on Celebrity Apprentice to see what a bitch she is and how she can't control her temper. She did everything from throwing a glass on the floor to screaming and cussing people out when she didn't get her way.
No, R77, I did not think Joan was going to show footage of what a greedy cunt she is. I am not that naive. I was simply pointing out that she's consciously pulling the wool over our eyes, okay?
R77 and by the same token you have to realize the Celebrity Apprentice is a reality show and Joan amped up the drama for that season. You think Joan acts that way in real life? She's a very intelligent woman and I'm sure she was being dramatic for the cameras.
agree r79....but Melissa seemed like a crazy entitled brat.
R80 oh for sure Melissa has always been a brat lol. She and Joan made that season though.
She's a poker player!! A poker player!!!
her line readings on that were Oscar worthy.
LOL at the dumb Joan stans who actually think she was acting on CA. Sorry, but THAT was the real Joan. It's her shitty reality show with Melissa that she acts on.
what is CA r83?
The writers are brave publishing the r65 video. They may find themselves unemployable.
Joan's documentary portrayed her as very generous towards her staff (e.g. paying college fees etc.) but I wonder how much they actually get paid. None of them looked well-heeled.
R83 are you Annie Duke? I guess you don't understand how reality shows work. No one is saying Joan is a saint but if you think her behavior on CA was not at least partially played up for the cameras, you're no more intelligent than the viewers who think the various Real Housewives franchises aren't scripted.
Grab some popcorn. There's gonna be fireworks!
Perez Hilton outs Joan as a liar!
EXCLUSIVE! Joan Rivers WAS Notified About The WGA Fashion Police Charges!
Someone with as many fur coats as Joan Rivers should know a charge when she sees one!
But the Fashion Police host responded recently to news of WGA charges against her by saying that she hadn't been notified of any.
But according to a source close to the Writers Guild of America, East, Joan was sent her notice way back on June 4! By both e-mail and in a letter!
See, letters are these things on paper with stamps that people used to send each other… never mind, Joan knows what we're talking about!
In fact, Joan seems to know all about the charges. After all, being a member of the WGA, she should already know full well that she's not allowed to keep running a show when the writers are on strike.
Whether she's the one who determines their pay or not, Joan is still responsible for her staff.
If she supports them like she says she does, it's time she pulled her head out of the sand before they rename it Silicon Valley!
Why would a woman that old be so concerned with nickel & diming people? Like she really needs MORE money for herself? Does she not realize she'll be dead soon? I've never understood elderly people who are hellbent on amassing money at that age.
Sad that this will be her legacy, but she brought the entire thing upon herself.
We already knew she was a cunt, now we now she's a greedy cunt.
Everyone knows Joan's not funny by herself anymore. She had a shtick. Then she tried winging it on E and sucked bad because it was always a package deal with Mrs. Ed, her daughter and they didn't pay for jokes. She got funny on Fashion Police and fucked her writers, who had to actually go out on strike. What writer wants to strike? THEY are the ones who brought in the ratings. Not her. The producer probably give Joan a lump sum and she gets to divvy it up the way she wants. She's a cheap bitch and NOT funny without writers. She's also a LUCKY bitch who gets great TV deals, ruins them, and then whines about it until she gets a new one.
I swear to God, if I have to listen to Joan make one more Kim Kardashian "joke" while discussing a black & white ensemble...
You can tell Joan's getting desperate for good Fashion Police jokes because she's even more vulgar than ever. When in doubt, toss around the C-word. Sad.