I just feel like I don't want some large multi-national company rifling through my stuff.
Am I crazy?
I've had the same reaction since I first heard of it.
Already OP? It was invented only recently.
If you're weary of it, then take a nap.
If you're wary of it, get an external hard drive.
that's what I have
I *heart* R3.
I don't trust that shit either and won't use it.
Nothing is secure. Give up.
I don't trust it, either.
cloud won't even be the major form of storage w/in five years. so wait it out.
It has some uses because of its convenience, but yeah, for anything even remotely private/important, no.
It's primitive. It's like communal showers. Why would someone whose had a shower at home give it up for a communal shower downtown? It doesn't make sense. Since 9/11 this "I have nothing to hide therefore I don't care if people look through my digital life" meme has spread that people don't care about privacy.
How can clouds store stuff? Everything will just fall through and land on the ground.
It's ridiculous. Clouds are unstable. Trusting your data to them is a good way to loose it. "Cloud computing" is really just a cover for government control of the weather.
No r12, binary data isn't like regular data. It's essentially weightless. Once they solved the moisture issue, cloud storage has been mostly problem free.
The cloud is the towel dance of the twinks. A lot of marketing resulting in not too much.
A lot of people say they are concerned about losing data, but honestly in 15 years of computing I've never lost much AND I've had some shitty old ass computers.
For those of you wary of the cloud, do you shop online? Post photos to Facebook or Flickr? You're already using the cloud.
I don't use Flickr and am very choosy about what photos I put on Facebook.
I'm not weary of cloud storage. The only ones weary of it are those who were stupid enough to buy into cloud storage. Thus, I'm not weary of it.
If you don't like it, what do you have to hide?
it's corporate big brotherism
Yes, you're crazy.
I don't think it's an issue of reliability as much as the redefinition of data "ownership." Instead of buying MS Office, subscribe to Office 365 and pay every month. Instead of buying an MP3, join Spotify and pay every month. Instead of buying a video game, join XBox Live and pay every month. Soon having the data you pay for in your actual possession will be seen as old fashioned. And if you don't have it on your hard drive, you can't illegally share it with someone else.
I wouldn't put anything on a cloud that wasn't backed up on a physical drive at my house.
I've looked at clouds from both sides now
From up and down, and still somehow
It's cloud illusions I recall
I really don't know clouds at all
Well, you asked.
Everyone posting on this thread should also post their age, before responding.
I like my cloud.
[quote]Everyone posting on this thread should also post their age, before responding.
Why? I'm 26, but I'm still kinda hot.
How else do you use your iPad for documents and photos etc for use in court? I am a newbie with this thingie and all this advice I'm getting from colleagues is making me dizzy. Personally I think they don't know what they're talking about either.
Yes, I am old compared to you and you and you and you.
I am worried that when I am in the middle of a trial that the cloud will be "down" and I will be up the creek without a paddle unable to present my evidence.
I probably would have back up for evidence for use at a trial.
They want you to be dependent on an internet connection to get to all your files. That way they can charge you even more for internet access. Cable companies cant wait for cloud storage to take off. They will start putting a price tag to the amount of data you use/access, like cell phone companies. It will be like the 90s all over again, having a cap to how much internet you can use before they charge you overages.
what r34 says - btw that andthe unsettling fear thta others have access to my info, I just don't trust clouds. Plus, I lost a shit ton of my graduate work on a cloud storage/media file share company that got pulled by the RIAA. None of my stuff was even illegal. Fuckers.
I doubt any of these companies have any interest in my stuff. Anyway, my stuff is encrypted. The number of people who could get around that is small enough that the problem becomes even less worrisome.
A more real problem is not having access when you need it. For example my health insurance website went down on April 15 when I was doing my taxes.
There is no privacy anymore but, as the young have discovered, privacy is overrated.
"I'm weary of cloud storage, am I crazy?"
Yes, OP, those feathers and turquoise and the rain dance suggest that you're Crazy...Horse.
No one is stopping any of the complainers here from setting up their own servers at home to provide these services, but let's just skip to the end, none of you actually know how to do that, and god help you if a hacker targets it.
[quote]They want you to be dependent on an internet connection to get to all your files.
That's the case with all the stuff you buy these days. If you get a camera and upload the pics to your computer, the camera maker wants you to hook into them every time you connect the camera. If you hook in your iPod to add mp3s you've ripped, Apple wants you to connect. If you want to use your Photoshop, Adobe wants you to connect to them. I shut down any connections that try to open and I refuse offers of upgrades after I've set up things with the first use.
Cloud storage is owned part and parcel by the NSA (National Security Agency). It is broken down into many different companies, seemingly different, but they are all government companies and the purpose is to look through your hard drive.
[quote]No one is stopping any of the complainers here from setting up their own servers at home to provide these services
I need to set up a server to store a few hundred Word docs, 300 songs, and a little porn?
[quote]I need to set up a server to store a few hundred Word docs, 300 songs, and a little porn?
R41 if you want both cloud/filesharing services and to nurture your paranoia, yes
PS: no one said a "server" has to be an expensive one, even old machines running linux can "serve" files and provide other service
I'm more concerned that Apple would clamp down on my years of not so legal music downloads...
I heard that if you put music into cloud storage it could get lost easily if there are heavy winds.
Yes, I think you are
R45 just cracked me up
I'm weary of fighting the inevitable. Let them have it. All of it. It's not like we need worry about the thems having the competence to do anything with it.
Thee is some privacy in being one in a large group. The more data out there in the cloud, the less chance anything of yours will get lost or viewed Inappropriately/without your consent. I think we all -- everyone -- should upload crap to the cloud. Get a free account at many of the services, and just load music or movies or whatever will take up space and bandwidth. If anyone really wants to find information, they can filter out the crap, but the more crap to filter the longer it takes.
They haven't solved all the moisture issues yet. Until they do, it's really unwise to trust your data to something so variable.
The celebrities wouldn't have all their nude photos or sex tapes hacked if they didn't store them in cloud storage.
[quote]For those of you wary of the cloud, do you shop online? Post photos to Facebook or Flickr? You're already using the cloud.
Weary = leery & wary
The company I've just joined has a worryingly large amount of its infrastructure/data in 'cloud' platforms. I think that's foolish. As for home users- it's bullshit monetisation and they can sod off. OP you're right to keep your data at home. 'The Cloud' should only ever be used for worthless shit you wouldn't mind losing, like a way of avoiding having to use USB flash drives.
Like I have my CV on Skydrive and a txt file of my Datalounge subscription codes. That's about it.
Companies have realised if they all work together to push this cloud crap they can charge us for access to our own stuff, thereby wringing a few more bucks out of those MP3s you bought to replace the CDs you bought to replace the tapes you bought to replace the vinyl you brought (if you were thick).
They're obsessed with the idea they're losing cash from piracy and they're trying absolutely every way they can to stop it.
E-books are a classic example. You can't lend someone an E-book unless it's a PDF. Sharing media hurts their bottom line in the short term- never mind the fact that in the long term it often increases it *rolls eyes*
When the cloud fails, a hard rain is gonna fall, mark my words.
-gets off soapbox-
I have never used it and I don't believe I ever will. I'm just getting computers with bigger hard drives and more storage.
OP, your weariness is absolutely warranted.
A couple of years ago, T-Mobile has a phone named Sidekick that stores everything, phone book, pictures, schedule, music, etc on a Microsoft cloud named "Danger!".
Right after Microsoft acquired Danger!, it laid off lot of people, together with the knowledge of maintaining the cloud. Then, one day, the firmware update went pear-shaped, Microsoft realized that Danger! has not been backed up since the lay-off. Several million of Sidekick users couldn't even get their phone book for several months.
That cost T-Mobile dearly to allow early contract cancellation, compensation and it eventually decided to abandon Danger!
Company/cloud come, and company/cloud go, but OP, you stay. So, hopefully, you have a local backup of all your data.
Sidekick and Danger! were a good lessen for the "young and enthusiastic, internet-savvy and socially inclined".
[quote]A couple of years ago, T-Mobile has a phone named Sidekick that stores everything, phone book, pictures, schedule, music, etc on a Microsoft cloud named "Danger!".
Sidekick was the reason Paris Hilton's boob pics were posted. And how Fred Durst's sex tape leaked. They all filmed it on Sidekick which automatically uploaded everything to the cloud. Android phones now offer this too.
i'm "weary" of all this paranoia. anything can be hacked, anything can be leaked, the question is whether or not you're the "low-hanging fruit": are you a celebrity, or have an easily-cracked password.
if you want file services try SpiderOak, or roll your own, it's not hard. what's hard is listening to all this whining as though you're being compelled to put personal info on the web. yes, theyre cool and many people are using them, no you don't have to follow in their footsteps.
[quote]get an external hard drive
I've had two of them fail. I had just moved my photos up to my last (new) 1Tb external hard drive and it failed.
I give up on the external drives.
I am going to start burning photos and docs to DVDs.
Where do all my files go when it's sunny and the sky is clear and there are no clouds?
There are always clouds somewhere. The earth is never without them. Your data just moves around with them. That's why cloud storage is so safe.
OP, you're not "weary" of it, you are "leery" of it. Not the same thing!
[quote]Instead of buying MS Office, subscribe to Office 365 and pay every month. Instead of buying an MP3, join Spotify and pay every month. Instead of buying a video game, join XBox Live and pay every month.
I work in publishing, and my fellow editors and designers are pissed that all future versions of Adobe Creative Suite will be cloud-based and subscription-only.