Why won't the 2nd Boston Marathon thread open? I'm sure you all had something important to say.
I had just supplied a link to the Facebook page of the injured Saudi national. Perhaps that was verboten. Sorry!
it was disappeared.
How did the Freepers think they had the right guy since his name hadn't been published here? The first reference to his name I've seen is in the Daily Mail article.
R11, you're not banned, so it wasn't you..
Freepers always blame the brown people, then, like in Oklahoma, if it ends up a fellow winger rightie, they crawl back under their rocks.
The "who did it" thread also disappeared. I hope it wasn't me posting some bullshit FB forward that claimed one of the guys pictured (with his legs blown off) was actually a soldier who lost his legs years ago in Afghanistan. It was a gruesome photo (and an assholey claim by conspiracy theorists) so I'm so sorry.
Maybe it's time to stop posting ALL FB links.
Another thread is called for, but there's no guarantee that the exquisitely inconsistent sensitivities of the inquisition will permit the inevitable onslaught of racist-and-worse nuts.
The police stated categorically 45 minutes ago that the Saudi national was NOT a suspect, according to the Boston Herald.
I think it looks far more like domestic right-wing terrorism.
Oh, and one of the bombs was placed directly opposite Governor Deval Patrick.
I can't stop thinking about the runner who had both of his legs blown off in that very graphic picture. Someone else mentioned him too. I really hope he makes it. He was alive in the photo - being pushed in a wheelchair - yes, anyway, I have been thinking about him all day and sending thoughts his way.
R19: Why do you blame a right-wing person? How is that any different than blaming a minority?
The bomber could have been wearing a caftan. It could be the supermarket ran out of red weirdos.
I'm glad the webmaster isn't letting freaks post people's personal FB pages and starting a witch hunt. They could get this site shut down. It's harassment.
R21, Why hasn't anyone started a thread on Carlos Arredondo, the sexy guy that helped rescue him?
What a story! Carlos had a son who was killed in the war and then his *other* son committed suicide.
[quote] Why do you blame a right-wing person? How is that any different than blaming a minority?
I don't blame, I suspect. That's difference. And I suspect because of the historical connotations pf Boston Tea Party (and the neo-Tea Party's association with the emblematic appeal of said historical Boston Tea Party), the fact that it was Patriot's Day ("patriot" being a trigger-word for reich-wingers), and because it was April 15, tax day ("taxes" again being a trigger-word). It's only a suspicion, however.
R20 There was a report in the Boston Globe, I think, this afternoon, that the guy in the wheelchair picture was stable in the hospital. The dead have been identified as the 8 year old boy and two women.
Okay, Carlos is my new hero too. WOW. I saw a much more graphic, differently cropped version of that photo yesterday and it has haunted me since last night.
Thank you for more information on Carlos Arrendondo, what a wonderful guy.
Thank you, R26. I just read that someone posted that on the Huff Post as well, that the wheelchair guy is named Jeff and seems to be recovering. Wonderful, and amazing that modern medicine - ALONG with heroes like Carlos Arrendondo - can save a man who has had both legs blown off.
Reading more about Arrendondo now - truly fantastic that a man can survive such loss and work for peace - it makes me happy to read about him and know that such people exist on this planet.
DAMN! The hottie was beaten by right wing assholes!
"On 15th September, 2007, Carlos Arredondo was beaten by eight members of the Gathering of Eagles, a right-wing group during an anti-war march in Lafayette Square, Washington, D.C.. He was at his truck, which is his memorial to his son, Alexander. A group of Iraq war veterans and Veterans for Peace protected Arredondo. The attack was reputedly a result of Arredondo holding the American flag upside down."
His hot accent helps.
R25: I stand corrected.I jumped the gun due to the Arab/neo-con sling fest by both sides. Good points, but I don't see why someone like that would hit the race instead of a government building.
I would be surprised if they don't have film of the person by now.
Arredondo held the flag upside down. I like him even more now.
What is up with the responders on the Sandra Rose blog? Great blog but she needs some new fans. Yuck!
Can someone start a thread on hottie Carlos? I'm unemployed and can't afford it. I promise to start a thread for someone else when I am back on my feet and can subscribe again!
R38, see R23, R24, R27, etc
Why did they search the Saudi guy's house??? Did they search every victim's house? Or just the non-whites?
That's fucked up.
The pressure-cooker bomb used in Boston attacks may be similar to recipe in al Qaeda online magazine
Yesterday they were thinking the bombs could have been set off by cellphones. The latest news report said they had timers.
Mediapolis is being overly "sensitive". I started a thread that had some humor to it (because believe it or not, Mediapolis, some if us deal with stress, death and tragedy with humor), only to have the thread deleted by the webmaster. Too inappropriate? Cripes! This used to be the Datalounge, for crying out loud!
The bombs were planned way ahead, wouldn't be surprised if its by an Al-Quida group.
Wouldn't a "terrorist" group have claimed responsibility by now? I'm thinking it was some unhinged M.I.T. dropout.
[quote]Wouldn't a "terrorist" group have claimed responsibility by now?
That's what I was thinking. An Al-Qaeda group would have no problem bragging that it was them.
All the nuts like to brag about it. Maybe it was a lone person?
The second thread is no longer in my thread watcher.
i think it's a home-grown al qaeda sympathizer group, it's not a lone wolf, at least 4 or 5 people involved. There were 4 bombs (2 found), so i'm guessing 1 person dropped off 1 bomb.
The suspects were probably wearing caps or hoodies and won't be clearly IDed from CCTVs etc.
Get a load of Jessica Fletcher's cranky older sister at r50
Perhaps the second thread will start working again next week, as is what happened this past week with the Celebrity Apprentice All-Stars thread!
see? you dumbasses pay 18 bucks for this shit. someone steal the code here and make a new board.
Okay, so the gay/bi Middle Eastern kid is no longer a suspect...so can he sue the gov't & media now? I can't even imagine all the nasty FB messages he's going to find the next time he logs on. Not to mention, the FBI probably trashed his apartment & are still going through his porn stash as we speak. I can't imagine.
No unexploded bombs were found, Jessica's sister at r50.
It really sounds an awful lot like they just grabbed the first brown person they could find. I hope the idiots spreading his Facebook info around the internet get a taste of their own medicine one day.
[quote]Wouldn't a "terrorist" group have claimed responsibility by now? I'm thinking it was some unhinged M.I.T. dropout.
Are you suggesting someone like Dr. Amy Bishop (BOOM! BOOM! BOOM!) has upped the ante.
Saudi terror cell, possibly al Qaeda, behind Boston Marathon bombings. Manhunt for escaped suspect
From a great Israeli site.
You know DL has been infiltrated with by Republican Right Wing Israel First dimbulbs when Debka is referred to as "great".
The webmaster seems to be under the impression that news posted here is original.
It has to be domestic terrorism. The Boston Marathon on Patriot's Day would mean nothing to international terrorists. They would attack a more global symbol of US imperialism.
Unless they want to gaslight the Neocon, numbnut "patriots" here. In that case, the extreme right set itself up not only for ridicule, but for being implicated in acts of violence. Timothy McVeigh and an Eric Rudolph (and other domestic terrorists) set a path for others to follow, imitate and implicate.
i'm not sure if they cared about patriots day, they see a soft target with lots of possible victims. saw a runner on tv who said he saw the trash can blew up.
if it was terrorists, they would have claimed it. i'm voting for lone kook.
Somebody in a department store is going to recall some strange-acting guy who bought two pressure cookers.
Analysis I heard today on NPR from reporter who specialized in this kind of coverage in Israel and other countries is that the longer we go with no international group claiming responsibility the more it feels like domestic terrorism. The Taliban even put up a denial that they were responsible.
Who is heroic cop in iconic Boston bombing photo?
Much has been written about the above photo, taken by AP photographer John Tlumacki. It captures the chaos, danger and bravery of those on the scene of the Boston Marathon explosions.
Javier Pagan is the officer on the right side of the photo. Dallas Voice writes that Pagan is a longtime member of the Boston Police and serves as liaison between the BPD and the lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender community.
As the photo went viral, a Facebook group called Boston Pride issued a shoutout to the officer:
The police officer on the far right is a good friend of Boston Pride! One of the First Responders who was miraculously standing right behind the flags where the first bomb went off---- Boston Pride would like to Thank Javier for all you do!
Yahoo News spoke with Sylvain Bruni, board member for Boston Pride, about Pagan's contributions. "We do a lot of public events, and Officer Pagan helps with security and the planning" to make sure things go smoothly from a "safety and security standpoint," Bruni said. "He's there early in the morning, like 6:00 or 7:00... He's done a phenomenal job."
Pagan has been profiled in other blogs and media outlets. South Florida Gay News writes that Pagan's position makes him the "most highly visible LGBT member of the Boston Police." In 2002, he gave an interview with Bay Windows, in which he spoke about his decision to come out as gay at the age of 26, a year after he joined the police force.
"Literally I've always known that I was gay, I just really never -- I grew up in a Catholic home and I've got three older sisters, and being Hispanic, it's the big "machismo" thing... When I came out my family was completely like, `Who were you fooling? You're not fooling us... But it was -- in all honesty, I've had the best support from my family, my friends, even my colleagues. Like I said, I wasn't fooling anyone but myself."
In another interview with CrossFit, an exercise site, Pagan said that he is married to a retired sergeant from the New York Police Department. Pagan said that on 9/11, his husband helped to "rescue many people when the towers collapsed."
The National Security Agency often interlopes into sites like this and shuts them down.
I feel sorry for that poor, sweet-faced Saudi kid on so many levels.
[quote]Somebody in a department store is going to recall some strange-acting guy who bought two pressure cookers.
They sell them online too these days.
What concerns me is that if this was indeed one of the usual suspects - al Qaeda for instance, then attacking an event like this is a big change in modus operandi; usually, these types obsess about hitting public transport, which is good from a security point of view - easier to protect. But if they have begun looking for any crowded events, well, there are plenty of those. And a security nightmare. Given the deviation in target and silence over claiming responsibility though, I'm inclined to think rightwing nutbag, probably a loner.
Why wouldn't AQ just claim responsibility for it even if they didn't do it? I mean, it fits with their agenda and it seems like they'd love to fuck with our minds & confuse the situation in any way they possibly could. This seems like the perfect opportunity for that, so what gives?
Why is there a second marathon? Because people didn't get to finish the first one?
“White privilege is knowing that even if the bomber turns out to be white, no one will call for your group to be profiled as terrorists as a result, subjected to special screening or threatened with deportation,” writes author Tim Wise. “White privilege is knowing that if this bomber turns out to be white, the United States government will not bomb whatever corn field or mountain town or stale suburb from which said bomber came, just to ensure that others like him or her don’t get any ideas. And if he turns out to be a member of the Irish Republican Army we won’t bomb Dublin. And if he’s an Italian-American Catholic we won’t bomb the Vatican. Because of these undeniable and pervasive double standards, the specific identity of the Boston Marathon bomber (or bombers) is not some minor detail — it will almost certainly dictate what kind of governmental, political and societal response we see in the coming weeks.”
R84, a second Boston Marathon thread was closed. They're not having a re-run of the marathon.
R84 needs to be escorted back to her group home.
Why the fuck would we bomb Dublin over the IRA? That writer needs to pull his head out.
Why the fuck would be bomb Iraq over 9/11? And yet it happened anyway.
(Yes, I know there were more complex reasons it happened, but that was how it was sold to the public, and why they agreed to it.)
r88 you are a moron.
The third victim who has died has been identified as Lu Lingzi, A Boston University grad student from China.
Wow...they said on Nightline that the family of the Chinese victim asked that her identity not to be released.
A state run Chinese Newspaper reported it on their blog and said the father confirmed her death and was visited by reporters. It's also been widely reported with her name all over the Chinese & American social media. It's all over the internet so very hard to contain.
I fear that the person who did this set up their apartment or house to explode when the police come knocking.
"Dallas Voice writes that Pagan is a longtime member of the Boston Police and serves as liaison between the BPD and the lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender community."
Cool. Thanks for posting about this guy.
CNN is reporting on-air that security video from a Lord & Taylor store on the marathon route may have led to a "significant breakthrough" in the investigation of the Boston bombings. A suspect may have been identified but authorities are not saying much as this writing. Story developing...
BREAKING NEWS: Boston Globe Source: Authorities have an image of a suspect carrying, and perhaps dropping, a black bag at the second bombing scene.
[quote]If that white guy at R21 is just some guy with a backpack full of water and snacks, he's gonna be pissed as fuck.
No shit!! Fuck that. Makes me not want to go anywhere. We're all suspects and our photos can be tossed around the web willy nilly as if we are guilty. What a load of shit.
It's amazing how much misinformation the media has spread with this. Earlier today they were saying the man in the video was dark-skinned. Now suddenly he's white.
they will be checking every cell call record made in that area as the Person of interest was on his cell phone on the video from L&T.
Pix on Daily Mail of suspect w/the bag - taken from Reddit I think..