"There's Something Wrong With Aunt Diane" on CNN tonight
DL classic HBO film about the drunk (maybe) frau (definitely) who barreled down the wrong side of the LIE with a car full of her nephews and nieces. Break out the popcorn and watch her relatives awkwardly try to cover for her.
Why is CNN airing an HBO movie?
She was not on the LIE
There were no nephews in the car.
It was the Taconic.
Anything else you'd care to get wrong, OP?
She was in a boat!
This case is a Datalounge obsession.
Read The Taconic Tragedy A Son's Search For The Truth....Interesting book
When I watched this on HBO, I had nightmares. something about it was haunting then the death pictures, then I online and read more about the case. I don't know what it's called but I have some weird disorder that causes me to indulge in this sort of thing.
not watching it again.
Ugh! Those death pictures -- she looked like a DEAD booger-eating baboon!
So I'm looking at the CNN viewing schedule for this evening and I do not see this program listed.
I think OP is mistaken.
It's 4/20. I checked. I'm sick.
Despite attempts by Diane Schuler's retarded husband and brainless sister-in-law to prove otherwise, the simple fact is that she chose to guzzle vodka and smoke pot that day, probably to take the edge off or ease a little tension headache. She'd probably done this many times before (she was a control freak who thought she could handle anything) but overdid it that time. Her arrogance caused the deaths of four little girls, three innocent men and herself. Only her son survived and I don't even want to think about what his life iwith his idiot father is like now.
There was no medical evidence to suggest that Diane Schuler had a stroke or an embolism or a tooth absess or any medical condition that would cause such unbearable pain that she chose to swill vodka and smoke pot to relieve it, despite being the driver of an SUV full of children.
I think there's some show on NBC on Fridays with Brian Williams that will feature a story this coming Friday about Jackie Hance. Jackie Hance is the mother of the three girls Diane Schuler killed. She had another baby not long ago, another little girl. I don't know what she'll say in the interview. Probably nothing of real interest. She usually says that Diane Schuler was always such a responsible person who loved her nieces and her own children, a person she trusted fully. I wish she'd say that Diane Schuler was a closet drunk who was such a cunt she chose to drink and smoke pot and drive with a bunch of kids in the car.
Was there something in the breakfast food at McDonald's? That was one of the theories that came out when all this happened.
"Even though my wife had vodka in the car she didn't drink none'
Where the hell is DL Danny? He needs to come by and enlighten us.
Well if Danny won't come I will post his story for him:
Here's how I figure it. Diane's inna car, right? She gets a bad headache cuz she feels a stroke comin on. She tries to get the Tylenol gel caps for fast relief, but that friggin Muslin guy at the store don't have em. So she's like "Faggetabowdit, I don't want no slow actin pills!"
She gets back inna car an she's drivin along and this pain from her abscessed tooth comes on. She's like, "Fuckin A, this is the pits! Where's the vodka? I'm gonna take one swigguh this faw my tooth pain." An then, when she's drivin allawng, her diabetes, which has been building up for a long time, since age dint know she had it, starts makin her thirsty!
An she's got the vodka bottle there, but she forgets it's vodka cuz her mind is clouded from the tooth pain. She thinks it's wunna them Dee-ah Pawk waterbottles and she chugs it! Cuz she's so thirsty from the diabetes.
Then, the lump in her leg stawts actin up on her, on toppa the tooth and the stroke and the diabetes. It hurts so much, she's friggin floorin the gas pedal, only she don't know it! Cuzzah the headache an the toothache and the diabetes! So, she's like, disoridented.
An the kid calls her faddah and sex, "Look he-yah, Aunt Diane is actin awl messed up!" and the faddah sex, "I'm comin ta git yiz!" But Diane takes the phone an sees what time it iz an sez, "Holy shit, kids! We godda git home!"
An she takes off like a battowddah hell. An I'm home watching the rosary on television and prayin, cuz like, I didn't make Mass in the mawnin. An me an the dawg is praying ta Gawd thankkin him for our byootyfull lives an awl. An then we git this phone call from Diane's asshole brutha an his hoity toity wife an I'm all confused becaws I'm sayin the Acta Contrishun an thinkin hly thoughts. An all hell breaks loose.
An she crashed the caw. It was all becawssa the medical problems she had becaws she's like, a very frightened person about doktiz an shit, so she don't go to no doktiz. She's also frugal-like, an likes to spend money on jeeps an purses instedda these he-yah doktiz that'll robbya blind with all their tests and pokin at ya.
An that's how it happened, an now I'm suin everybody cawz they been really nasty about my Diane, who wuz a saint an now I'm all fucked up tryin ta do stuff like laundry an bills an childcare an shit.
It is on at 7pm.
I think her giant FUPA got stuck in the seatbelt and her foot slipped as she tried to adjust her gunt.
7pm where, what channel? TV times are usually given as EST, and it's already 7:30pm EST. And I'm not seeing it listed as being on CNN tonight. There is something called "CNN Presents" on at 8pm EST, it's only an hour long so if they're showing the movie then it'd have to be abbreviated.
But it doesn't list that as being one, it's called Newsroom Sunday.
Sorry, I meant to write on, not one. How did you find out, OP? Here it's just listed as Newsroom Sunday.
Throughout the documentary, we only get to see pictures of a younger, thinner Dianne. It was not until the death photo that we get a glimpse into what Diane really looked like on that tragic day.
Makes me wonder what was going on in her life for her weight to balloon so drastically.
OP has probably just had too much vodka and pot today and is sleeping it off.
This infuriates me just like the whole case did. I get why her husband is sticking up for her but I just want to slap the shit out of the other lady (his sister?) It sounds like something a fucking four year old would dream up.
OP's right, it's coming on CNN now. Listed as "CNN Presents" here.
Alright, so let's revive the discussion? What do you guys think happened?
She suspected her husband was having an affair with some cute thin young thing. They had an argument the night before at the camp site.. on the way home, Diane stopped at a liquor store and bought some vodka. She drank and drove.... she drank some more.. and drove... started thinking about her husband the cheater....
r28 I would almost believe it but have you seen her husband?
I am not buying the medical problem angle.
I think she decided to commit suicide.
Did they cut the photo of her dead body? I was flipping back and forth and didn't see it this time.
I can find NO links re: anything related to Aunt Diane being on TV tonight.
I didn't see it either r31 but I remember in the initial documentary it was a quick shot. We may have just missed it.
r32 You won't find any links, as I said earlier, it's just listed as being Newsroom Sunday or whatever the normal programming is. Just put it on Cnn, you'll see.
Just search for "Diane Schuler Autopsy" and you'll see her death pix.
"She suspected her husband was having an affair with some cute thin young thing. They had an argument the night before at the camp site.. on the way home, Diane stopped at a liquor store and bought some vodka. She drank and drove.... she drank some more.. and drove... started thinking about her husband the cheater...."
You must have a very vivid imagination, because the scenario you've proposed is ludicrous in the the extreme. What "cute thin young thing" would look twice at the ape-faced, rotund Danny Schuler?
Diane Schuler was fat. She lost weight (look at her wedding pictures; she never was a lightweight) and married the first bum who came along. After her marriage she ballooned again. Those death photos of her are startling; she looks as big as a while. I think she was only 5'2 and weighed over 200 pounds.
Ok, she found out he was cheating, doesn't matter if it was with a cute young thing, what mattered is that he made the choice to be with someone that wasn't her. Control freak like her it wouldn't much matter would it?
I meant it was cut from CNN's airing of it.
r36I hope the poster you mentioned is kidding. Why are we obsessed with her? She's a fattish, fortyish, frauish chick and has made all of us talk about her like a hot blonde with big tits. I think she just got drunk and drove but am fascinated with everyone's take on this.
could have been a fight over something even smaller
"Makes me wonder what was going on in her life for her weight to balloon so drastically."
She was married to a lazy, unattractive clod. She was the breadwinner in the family and she had sole responsibility when it came to the care of their kids. He supposedly told her if she wanted kids she'd be the one who'd have to take care of them. She had a demanding job. She was always under a lot of stress; her mother had left her and her father and brothers so she had to be the responsible female in the family since she was a child.
She had some pretty severe issues; she was an agressive control freak, using to being the one who gave orders, and she expected people to obey her without any protest. She was probably depressed too, and had been for a long time.
I think she dealt with all her problems the way a lot of people do: by eating, drinking and doing drugs. She was obviously a closet alcoholic. It would have been easy to hide that from her clueless family. She'd probably been drinking and driving a long time and thought she could handle it. She was a very arrogant, controlling woman. Her death was no loss. It's just a shame she took all those poor kids and those poor men with her when she finally fucked it up REALLY bad.
And r41 nails it.
It IS on CNN! It must have started at 10:00. I'm watching it right now. God, those relatives are stupid, denying she was drunk. The toxicology reports PROVED she was drunk and stoned. In the documentary they try to make it seem like she boozed and smoked because she was crazy out of her mind due to a medical emergency. But the autopsy report showed NO medical emergency. Total denial.
and r43 you are right, people think her blood was tampered with and the best answer is this:
Why would her blood work have been tampered with? She was an anonymous fat frau from Long Island, it's not like she was Princess Diana. Jesus.
something happened between her and the husband at the camp. he took off and never even contacted her when she was, what, 3 or so hours late. She snapped and didn't care who she took with her. Maybe she resented her brother for having a happier family life. So she killed his children. She killed her own, despite the boy surviving, because she knew her husband would not take care of them properly. Maybe she just got so drunk and lost control, something she may have been able to control before, and killed a bunch of innocent people.
either way, she was a selfish, horrid woman who killed innocent people because she didn't realize that she was not in control that day or she just gave up and decided to commit suicide and didn't care who she took with her.
CNN may have cut out the death photo. It creeped the hell out of me in the HBO documentary.
This blond woman's pupils are REALLY dialated. I think they are all on dope.
I still remember some DLers saying her death photo made her look "evil". I was going to watch this again but it's too creepy and disturbing. I don't want to go through it again.
Uh there's no way that Diane was a closet alcoholic, we all know everything about each other and have no secrets in this family! Now, if you'll excuse me, I need to sneak a smoke. I am fiending bad and nobody in the family knows I am a smoker.
the weight bloat is a sign someone is a closet alcoholic. Her husband worked at night, she did her job, the sister in law was hiding her own addiction. they knew, they just didnt' care.
I'm going on a diet and giving up booze. I can only imagine what my family and coworkers are thinking about me.
[R13] Thank you for the funniest depitction of a tragic story I've ever read. I remember seeing the doc on HBO years ago, but as I am somewhat new to DL, I was unaware of the fascination this case hold to some members.
I assume you are a professional writer, yes?
[R41] After reading the autopsy report online, I am about to leap to the assumption that she may have become obese late in her life. Her heart was unremarkable(not enlarged) and she had no blockages or atherosclerosis.
I'll bet it was a creeping gain that may have started within 3 years of her death. The woman clearly had some issues she was attempting to smother.
I'm driving to the Hudson Valley this week from NYC, I'm now going to take the long way and avoid the Taconic, can't drive it after watching that creepy simulation of the crash. It's such a scary dangerous highway to begin with
"I'd marry her again tomorrow. She's AWESOME, she's the best".
Everybawdy is tawkin abowt how I don't do nuttin inna daytime. Well I gotta night job, I work faw a livin, unlike some people. An I gotta lotta grief, ya know? I'm workin on my grief. I lawst my wife. And the kid ... the little one, whutsHerName. I miss her too, sometimes. An my three nieces got offed, too.
But I don't feel bad abowt those Eye-talians inna othuh caw. You know how Eye-talians are, always tawkin with the hands. The driver was probly tawkin abowt some sausage an peppahs he wuz gonna make when he gits home, all tawkin with his hands an stuff.
"An I'm a-gonna make-ah the sausage an peppahs wit a lotta duh gawlic, lots and lotsa gawlic. An I'm a-gonna drinka some wine..." Hey, did anybody check his alcohol level in his awtopsy? I'm freakin serious. You know these Eye-ties are always growin grapes inna backyawd and stomping em inna basement, makin their own homebrew.
So no, I'm not sad that they bawt the fawm. Diane probly did everybawdy a fayvuh by takin them owt.
Thanks for the youtube link, but the full version of the movie drones on too long. I'm vaguely interested in this story, not obsessed enough to waste vast amounts of time watching videos about it. "CNN Presents" repeats at 2am EST, hopefully it'll be the movie, abbreviated, like the earlier airing (I had to take a nap 10 minutes into it.)
Yep it's back on right now, for at least one more airing.
I agree with r41 except for this:
[quote] She'd probably been drinking and driving a long time and thought she could handle it.
She thought she could handle barreling down the wrong way in the fast lane for miles? That's why the case remains a mystery, we don't know why she did that and just being drunk wasn't the explanation. Being drunk made it easier for her to do it, but she didn't do it just because she was drunk.
The sister-in-law could be an "Emmy role" for Edie Falco.
"She thought she could handle barreling down the wrong way in the fast lane for miles? That's why the case remains a mystery, we don't know why she did that and just being drunk wasn't the explanation. Being drunk made it easier for her to do it, but she didn't do it just because she was drunk."
I think she overdid the boozing and pot-smoking that day and it loosened her inhibitions. I think she drove in the wrong direction because she finally got fed up with the stress and crap she'd been dealing with her whole life and decided to kill herself. She's probably been depressed for a long time and probably thought about suicide more than once.
In her totally blotto state she probably thought "my kids will never make it without me, so I'll take them out, too. They'd be better off dead than with their father. And I'll take their cousins with us, so they can all play together in heaven." That's totally insane thinking, but she was blind drunk at the time so it's not implausible that she thought it was the right thing to do at the time.
That's my theory. She wanted to kill herself and decided the kids should come along, too.
Don't knowwhy she did it. Don't know why this movie bothers me so much.
r58, I think you're giving her way too much credit to say that she thought she was helping the kids by killing them too. She just didn't care, or even resented that their lives hadn't been ruined yet, they still had everything in front of them. She may have had an unhappy, overly stressful life, but that doesn't mean she was a good person. I think she was a narcissist and a sociopath, that's the sort of person who wants company when they off themselves.
LMFAO @ Lawnguyland Danny. Love ya
She probably had a big fight with that moron husband of hers and she was getting back at him by killing herself and all those kids.
That may be why he's so ridiculous in his denial. He doesn't want to admit that he knew she was furious when she left. He probably knew she smoked pot and had been drinking that morning, as well.
So he feels guilty and is acting insane about the whole situation, feeling like it's HIS fault. And every time he looks at his little boy, with brain and vision damage, he gets uspet (the woman said he was really harsh with the little boy whenever he'd cry about his mother.)
That poor little boy.
uspet = upset
"She may have had an unhappy, overly stressful life, but that doesn't mean she was a good person. I think she was a narcissist and a sociopath, that's the sort of person who wants company when they off themselves."
I don't think she was a good person. I think she was a horrid person. Which is why it makes me puke to hear her moronic husband talk about how "perfect" she was and the idiot sister-in-law who said she would "never, never, never" drive drunk and that weird doctor or whatever he was who was in the documentary who said that she was "a good person." Diane Schuler was a very, very fucked up individual.
The movie is not interesting because of the story, which is fairly lame and its obvious she was a drunk. The movie is interesting to watch how the people in her life lie, cover and misremember what she was like. Fascinating.
I remember hearing about this case but never read much about it. I decided to watch the movie. She seemed like a egotistical bitch that finally took her frustration out on innocent people. Kind of like when an Aunt of mine went crazy one night, she got drunk, called a bunch of people and threatened to throw her baby out of the car as she drove down hwy 27. "I'm the best Mother ever" was her favorite phrase. Crazy bitches.
The sister in law was in a state of denial heretofore unseen. And I completely believe her denial was genuine and not play acting for the cameras.
The only other case of such denial in the behemoth size wall of truth before them was the sad relatives of the 9-11 family members pinning the "Have you seen this person?" notes w pictures on the bulletin board constructed for that purpose following the attack. My friends kept saying, "give them a break...they're in shock."
I have lost 3 people I loved dearly, but not once did I go into shock or believe they MUST be alive. I know I'm being a bit harsh, and it's probably due to my frustration with people and their religious faith, but damn! When a building the size of those is vaporized, how could someone with a brain think that their son who worked at "Windows on the World" may be roaming NYC in a stupor???
swf, I used to write what I thought were sensible comments here in the DL, but I've gone over now. It's so much easier.
You are all so dumb it's scary.
Severe alcoholics black out. Yes, they do. She didn't drive the wrong way down the highway because she was plotting to kill people, was upset about her husband having an affair, etc. She was shit faced drunk and blacked out. She was a dazed zombie who, if she had gotten home safely, would not remember the drive at all.
She was not fat because of some tragedy or because she has "severe psychological issues." LOL. She was fat because she was fat. Like A LOT of (most) middle aged average Americans.
Her family does not believe that she wasn't drinking. They know full well that she was. They are steadfastly holding to their pathetic story because they're looking for a payday from several lawsuits.
And, uh R67, quite a few of those people posting notes DID have surviving family members. Many, many people were MIA in the aftermath of 9/11. They may not have been IN the buildings, but were in the area at the time, and families could not get hold of them for days.
Danny is a simpleton who is pissed off he has to raise his kid alone now. I think Diane did everything for him.
Brian Williams is interviewing the Hance's (brother and sister-in-law) tonight 10 PM on NBC
Ann Curry did the interview. Wasn't there a phone call between the brother and Diane that no one will tell what was said? They only showed flattering pictures of Diane...
R69 gets it right.
R69 you don't know if she had a black out just like others don't know for sure if she did it on purpose...
She was a great big fat person.
The autopsy said she had 113 ng (I forget the letters) of marijuana in her blood....is tht a lot?
[R69] As I said, I knew I was coming off as harsh and insensitive, but I did specify "a woman whose son worked at Windows on the World". Do you not think that was an extreme case of shock/denial?
And, this occurred several days after the tragedy. I would hope that by that point, anyone on the ground during the explosion had found a way to contact their loved ones.
Except of course for those sneaky tricksters who used the opportunity to escape their horrid lives and begin anew in a different locale. That is the one weirdo theory that I DO think is plausible. You know there had to be ONE miserable SOB who hated his wife and life, but felt trapped by financial realities etc who actually used that opportunity to get the hell out of NYC.
[R64] Do you mean Werner "gun for hire" Spitz MD?
He is a character...almost as hard to understand as his #1 rival on the Civil/Criminal Court scene
Dr. Henry "OJ blood splatter" Lee.
I am at at a loss to comprehend how the top two scientific expert witnesses in the US are both foreign born men who have lived here for 50+ years, yet they are still near intelligible. Kinda like Charo.
Are you on the wrong thread, dear?
I think she blacked out, I just think of those poor kids screaming as she drove into traffic. Bitch was an alcoholic but Danny won't admit it because he doesn't want to get sued.
Is that a lot of pot to have in the system?
They said she was a control freak and a very agressive driver. She had some issues with her mother who she completely shut out of her liffe but some say the grandmother saw the children behind Diane's back. Did she find out this on the campimg trip?
[R79] Are you addressing me? If so, I was responding to R64 about the strange doctor in the documentary. If you weren't...nevermind.
She was driving around for the better part of 5 hours. It only takes and hour and a half to two hours to get from the campsite to her home.
The interview Jackie Hance did was ho-hum. All she did was cry and moan about "not protecting" her little girls. No real criticism of Diane Schuler at all. Only one thing she said was interesting. She said that when one of her daughters called her, crying and saying "there's something wrong with Aunt Diane", she could hear the other girls crying too. She then called Diane Schuler and Schuler told her, "it's ok, they're having fun, they're playing." "She wasn't making sense", Hance said. I'll bet she wasn't! She was totally blotto from guzzling vodka-laced orange juice and smoking a few joints.
Hance said what you would expect in these types of interviews; that she had "forgiven" Schuler, that she "had to" forgive her in order to heal, blah, blah, blah. I never bought that crap, that "you must forgive the person who robbed/raped/maimed you (or in this case, killed your children) in order to heal."
I think that's a load of bullshit that's foisted on people who don't know how to deal with their anger and grief. "Just forgive"...hah! It's not that simple.
I wish someone who knew Diane Schuler (or the survivors of the men she killed) would come right out and say it: Schuler was a mentally-disturbed, very angry control freak who did a very good job of concealing her alcoholism.
sad story..just watched it..abcess can cause infected and lead worse in brain in few years..seemed to be she had no time to visit her dentist..her kids were her priority. She needs to be healthy and take care of her kids..if there any medical issues then she needs to be in care of her tooth problem, otherwise there will be no accident happened...ummm...her mother should not be left her in the first place makes her end up like her..its her mother's fault..
I have never seen a family so in denial! Alcohol is a killer as she used it as a weapon to kill eight people!
The Hance family was/is being sued by the Bastardi and Longo families because the minivan Diane Schuler was driving belonged to them. So Jackie Hance had to be careful of what she said in front of the camera. In one of those "only on America" situations, Danny Schuler was suing the Hances and the Hances are suing him.
This was on CNN last night. It's obvious the woman had a fight with her jerk of a husband before driving home. She must have decided to commit suicide and take everybody with her to get back at the husband. The getting drunk and high was just to give herself the courage to do it. The other drivers who saw her before the accident all insisted she was aggressive and was driving way too fast - they were honking at her so if she had just made a drunken mistake driving in the wrong direction, that would have made her aware of what she was doing.
Evil psycho bitch. Husband's an idiot too.
Crazy drunk in a mini van.
Wish they'd do a follow-up doc. I'd bet he's taken the easy way out and found another wife to take care of his needs. He was totally unable, more like unwilling, to do anything for himself, or his only surviving kid after the accident. He depended way too much on the kindness of his sister in-law. He knew damn well his wife was a functioning alcoholic, who also smoked weed.
Seeing as I am easily suggestible, I too have fallen into the obsession with this documentary. I watched it again last night on CNN, and this time something really grabbed me that didn't seem as important as it did in my original viewing.
The pathetic sister in law who smokes kept hammering Dr. Warren Spitz about the tooth abcess, the possibility of a stroke and a few other maladies. And Dr. Spitz said in his best Goebbels accent: "Yes yes yes of course these things may have happened. But you must still come back to the high level of alcohol in her system, That will always trump everything else."
So, even if she was having a brain aneurysm, her 1.9 alkie count wins out in court.
He also said the autopsy showed no aneurism. I am having a hard time believing she was just really drunk and high due to the witnesses who saw her face and stated she was driving very purposeful, was not weaving just driving on the wrong side of the road, and seemed focused. I think she did this as a suicide and unfortunately took the children and the other victims with her. Having been abandoned by her mom, then forced to become the woman of that house while still a child, then marring the first guy who she dated, an insensitive idiot who probably treated her like a servant rather than a wife and companion, resulted in her turning into a closeted alcoholic and pot user, she was a ticking time bomb of hidden rage and she finally exploded. I just wish she had not taken those poor innocent people with her.
Those poor guidos from YONkiz, happily returning from a day of fishing and ..... splat! Aunt Diane aimed to take out as many innocent people as she could.
As if Danny could get anyone else to marry him...
I felt bad for her. She needed help and that buffoon she married wasn't going to step up. She seemed lonely.