Paul Ryan On Abortion: 'We Want A Country Where It Isn't Even Considered'
Rep. Paul Ryan, the Republican vice presidential nominee in 2012 and an abortion opponent, said Thursday that anti-abortion activists should try to build a broad coalition and find common ground with supporters of abortion rights as a way to advance their agenda.
Well then, maybe you ought to be campaigning a little harder for free contraception and comprehensive sex education, Paul.
R3, you are right. Scary guy and because he is young, he will be around for a long time, unless there is some big gay scandal someday.
How about a country where Abortion isn't necessary, because there is access to safe and reliable birth control, because children are not victims of rape, incest, trafficking etc., because women have control over their own bodies and their own reproductive decisions.
To get rid of abortion, legal or back alley, then we better do a hell of a better job with access to birth control and education.
I totally agree with Representative Ryan. We need to have comprehensive sex education in our schools and easy access to birth control to reduce the number of unwanted pregnancies and funding for child care, paid maternity leave and universal pre-k education to provide for all children who are born. These policies would reduce the number of abortions.
Oh, he doesn't support any of these things? Fuck you, Paul. "Pro-life" is often just a code word for wanting to punish women.
Wonder if he'd have felt the same if he'd knocked up his black girlfriend in college.
He's supposed to be the brains of the GOP, right? Holy. Shit. That is some powerful stupid.
We? Who's 'we'?
R9. "We" are "We The People"--the ones who are here to take our country back from those godless, socialist heathens.
No, Paul. We want pre-nup!
Why doesn't he worry about porn and prostitution.
Is he talking about Iran, or maybe Cuba?
He should be sent to those countries to learn from their rich experiences.
And his wife.
R13 correction. Abortion is legal in Cuba.
There are very few people who are truly pro-abortion. I think we all agree that we want a country in which abortion is not even considered. We want a country where children born are given the opportunity to succeed and do not have to wallow in poverty because their parents' jobs were sent overseas or eliminated due to the bottom line; a country where generations of welfare recipients are motivated to get off the public dole and are given the training and opportunity to do so; where young women have enough self-respect to eschew unprotected sex and young men respect women enough to be responsible and less selfish. But then, that would mean a whole lot of Republicans would be a little poorer to pay for this to happen. So, it's easier just to pass laws.
R15? Go back to Freeperville.
Love you, R11.
If r15 is a freeper, then it's the most sensible freeper ever.
[quote]take our country back from those godless, socialist heathens.
Old people are funny.
"I think we all agree that we want a country in which abortion is not even considered."
No, we do not all agree on that.
The only way you would have a country where abortion isn't even considered would be if you had a country in which all the women were 100% sterile. Even under the best possible circumstances pregnancy and childbirth are a physical and emotional ordeal that have possible life-threatening effects, and you will always have women who think twice about it and will figure out a way that they don't have to go through it.
[quote]We Want A Country Where It Isn't Even Considered
We already have one. Its called Iran.
What happened to keeping government out of people's lives, Eddie Munster?
Yeah no abortion of all those poor minorities that when they are born these same people will hate.
r16 is an idiot.
Has anyone been following this trial? The testimony from the "nurse" that had to "deal with" a screaming deformed baby after a botched abortion was horrifying.
R28 Would be nice if they did. It certainly reaffirms why its important to keep abortion legal.
Yes, R28, I've been following this story and it's heartbreaking. Evil and disgusting!
R29, I take it you're one of those people that is siding with this "doctor"? This story doesn't reaffirm why abortions should remain legal, it shows what actually goes on in the abortion clinics and how these doctors have no regard for a baby's life.
Safe. Legal. Rare.
Awful awful man. You don't like abortion? Then don't have one Paul, or try to forbid one of your daughter some day if it is so important to you- just try. Me, I give the woman, including Paul Ryan's daughter the choice. It is their body and it is their fetus- which is legally not a human being. It may not be my choice, but then it is not my choice to make.
[quote]I take it you're one of those people that is siding with this "doctor"?
Nope. I do not side with the doctor.
[quote] This story doesn't reaffirm why abortions should remain legal
Yes, it does. If abortion became illegal, stories like this will become commonplace. Women will be forced to go to unregulated, back alley "clinics" just like this one.
Did you read the Atlantic's article, R34? This wasn't a back alley clinic. This clinic was "legitimate" and had a license. And your assertion that back alley abortions will be taking place if abortion is illegal is false.
[quote]And your assertion that back alley abortions will be taking place if abortion is illegal is false.
R28/30 does not know how trolldar works.
Nice talking to yourself, trollina. Now get lost. You don't belong here, freeper.
The first sign of madness: talking to yourself
The first sign of desperation: using a sock puppet.
No, R31, it does not show what "actually goes on in the abortion clinics." Have you actually been inside a clinic, much less even seen an abortion performed? I have, more than once and in more than one clinic, and I assure you that Gosnell's actions and "practice" are FAR outside the norm. R34 and R29 are right - this is what the back-alley pre-Roe abortions were like. Back then this was the norm, and it WILL become the the norm again if abortion were ever to be outlawed. This is exactly why abortion must remain legal.
Paul Ryan doesn't speak for me. I want a country where strangers don't even consider it their business what others do with their own bodies, where it isn't even considered that he has a right to interfere in people's privacy, where politicians don't even consider intruding into the dialog between doctor and patient, where government doesn't even consider sexuality other than staying the hell out of the bedrooms of consenting adults.
"Keep your laws off our bodies" is bigger than just abortion - it applies to ALL our bodies.
I want a country where idiots like Paul Ryan aren't even considered.
I wish abortions were mandatory for ignorant bigots and right-wing morons.
Abort Paul Ryan and his ilk, NOW.
"What happened to keeping government out of people's lives, Eddie Munster?"
Right? This man is such a disgusting hypocrite.