- OP, babe, you left out Marion Cotillard.
Dorleac shouldn't be on this list.
Then there's the small matter of Sandrine Bonnaire, for whom I would have voted.
I went for Huppert instead, who is a formidable talent yet limited.
- Emmanuelle Riva
- r2, Riva gave one of the strongest performances of all time, but has a slim body of work. Is she better than Huppert and Adjani who've turned in countless great performances?
- Isabelle Huppert hands down.
- Elles sont tous les plus grosse salopes du cinéma!!
- Jeanne Moreau in Querelle.
- Simone Signoret was terrific in the few roles she did. Her husband, interestingly, was also a highly acclaimed director.
- I won't be part of any thread infested by the Streep Troll (tm). You just know that by the end this thread will be completely ruined by this demented piece of shit.
- You want histrionics, move over to the Italian actresses thread. Italians don't do subtle.
- It is inexcusable that Yvette Mimieux, Jacqueline Bisset, and Julia Louis-Dreyfus are excluded.
- Huppert, no fucking question.
- Lolo Ferrari
- Adjani for sure.
- And where is Nathalie Baye OP ?
- It's a toss-up between the two Isabelles.
- I have so many.
- R11, Jacqueline Bisset was born and raised in England.
- Pam St Clement
- Where is Juliette Binoche, OP?
- Never heard of any of them
- Where is Sophie Marceau????????
- "Riva gave one of the strongest performances of all time, but has a slim body of work. Is she better than Huppert and Adjani who've turned in countless great performances?"
Her body of work may not rival Huppert's but it certainly surpasses Adjani's, with due respect to her.
To Amour, one must add Riva's superb work in Therese Desqueroux, Leon Morin, Priest, Hiroshima mon Amour, Kapo and Adua and her Friends, among others.
- r18, r11 was joking.
- Oh. LOL at me.
- It's ok, r25
- I eat shit.
- Kristen Scott Thomas although British, acts a lot in French films.
- As do I.
- Crepes Suzette
- Where is Celine Dion?
- Jodie Foster acted in a French film, A Very Long Engagement.
- Marion Cotillard
- [quote] Kristen Scott Thomas although British, acts a lot in French films.
Ok then what about me ?
- r34 meet r29
- As much as it thrills me to see Françoise Dorléac get recognition, I don't think she merits being on this list. There are a number of other exceptional French actresses to choose from – Romy Schneider, Annie Girardot, Miou-Miou, Emmanuelle Béart, Catherine Frot, Nathalie Baye, Juliette Binoche, Charlotte Gainsbourg, Sophie Marceau, Audrey Tautou...
- Dorleac died when she was 25 years and her career was still in relative infancy.
- Why no love for Celine Dion?
- I love Romy Schneider, but she is Austrian/German. Worked in French film, however. Does that count?
- R39, Romy Schneider became a French citizen back in the 1960s, lived primarily in France, and contributed immensely to French cinema. The "Prix Romy Schneider" is awarded annually to up-and-coming actresses in the French film industry. So I would say, "Oui. She counts."
- Velvette Cochon
- I love Catherine Deneuve and she is always at the top of any "most beautiful women" list but a great actress she is not.
Although she's still better than a ton of famous American actresses.
- LMAO...OP probably caused the Marion Cotillard troll to go on a murderous rampage!
- Where is Marie Falconetti?
- This poll is invalidated by the absence of Juliette Binoche.
- Agree with r45. And why did you just concentrate on older actresses, OP?
You totally blew it.
- Juliette Binoche and Marion Cotillard should be on this list.
Brigitte Bardot, certainly not.
Sophie Marceau, what????
Romy Schneider certainly contributed to French cinema a great deal and is very much loved there, however I wouldn't say she's regarded as French. Her best films were French though, and she was a major star in the 70s.
- Where is the German actress thread?
- Eva Green BABE
- OP back here, 10 obviously isn't enough!
Deneuve & Dorleac were both 60s stars, but I like Dorleac who was killed in 1967 in car accident, so I have to include her, and Bardot should be there as well ...
Cotillard is a big omission and should be included, as should Binoche.
- Thanks for listing Anouk Aimee. Wanted to be her when I grew up.
- Bardot might be iconic, she is not a good actress. She is also dumb as bricks, inarticulate and a major homophobe and racist. She publicly supports the extreme right in France, has written hateful books supporting this, and has been fined for it, as was her publisher.
Much as I love Dorleac (I don't like Deneuve), I don't see what she's doing on this list.
I'm with Anouk Aimee, Cotillard and Binoche.
I think Irene Jacob is on the list, I like her very much but she shouldn't be on the list either I don't think.
Anne Consigny is not internationally known but she is a very good actress.
Valeria Bruni Tedeschi I find very good too.
Is Arletty on the list? She has to be.
- You and me both r51 - love Anouk in Justine, Un Homme et une Femme, Lola, La Dolce Vita etc. She looks terrific now too at 80.
- Apologies, Irene Jacob isn't on the list.
More support for Anne Consigny (she's not famous enough - not even in France -, I realise that)
- Isabelle Huppert is winning the poll because she has such an international carrier and is a consumate professional. Her performances aren't always that inspired, though. More often than not she does the same thing over and over. She does pick very good material and her films tend to be at least interesting.
Juliette Binoche strikes me as a superior actress, and I am entranced with Simone Signoret. Casque d'Or, Les Diaboliques... Those just blew me away.
Anouk Aimee has class, I don't know her work well enough however.
- Jeanne Moreau is fantastic in Journal d'une femme de chambre, as is the entire cast. Not to mention the photography. What a film!
If you were going to have Danielle Darrieux, perhaps you should have Arletty as well. Also call this thread best French actresses born before the war or something.
- How about the 'honorary French' actresses:
Romy Schneider - in lots of French films, as are
Kirsten Scott Thomas
- Where is the Exquisite Fanny Ardant?????????
Without Fanny and Marion Cotillard this thread is meaningless.
Of those you listed I'd puck Isabel Adjani.
BTW: Where is Leslie Caron? I love her.
- Moreau - the French Bette Davis, though she hated that label - is stunning in BAY OF ANGELS by Demy in 1963, in glittering black and white, and wearing that platimum blonde wig, as the compulsive gambler.
- We don't need Adjani, I agree. She was a star for a relatively short time and has mostly played the diva, her greatest role would be her public appearances
- OP again, there is obviously just too many French grand dames to have a list of just 10. Lets make it 20 and get them all in !
I am now off to watch Deneuve & sister Dorleac in Demy's delightfully 60s LES DEMOISELLES DE ROCHEFORT - followed by Magnani & Masina together as women in prison in a 1960 Italian rarity titled HELL IN THE CITY - I think some of it is on Youtube.
- Adjani has always been stunning on screen, she blew me away in THE HISTORY OF ADELE H when she was 19.
Huppert just does not interest me at all, and is rathe colourless.
- Ronit Elkabetz is not a French actress by a long shot, but boy she is fantastic
- Danielle Darrieux, now in her 90s, is amusing as the sisters' mother in Young Girls of Rochefort, and dig Jacques Perrin as the blond sailor, and George Chakiris and Grover Dale as the dancers with those tight 60s pants !
- R52 Brigitte Bardot is very articulate and well read even though she's not highly educated.But she thinks like an old person.Yes,she is a racist and a homophobe.And a weightist,a lookist and a xenophobe.
- Despite her being a sensation in the 50s I would discount Bardot from any poll, she never took acting seriously and only a few of her films (La Verite, Viva Maria) are watchable now.
- Huppert (who has also done a couple of bad movies) is something to behold in The Piano Teacher. It has a tad less painful realism than some of Haneke's other works, but she struck a captivating balance of a character that can only be imagined and not a character at all, but every-human trying to act out his or her rage. It may have seemed subtle, but I can't see how she could be considered uninteresting in at least that performance.
- WHET Julie Delpy?
- Dear Ethan, you must joking. Julie Delpy will never make the cut.
- Huppert, on top of everything else, showed in Eiqht Women (where she costars with many of the greats including Deneuve, Ardant, Beart and Darrieux), that she is a brilliant comedienne.
- Isabelle Huppert. No question.
- "Elles sont tous les plus grosse salopes du cinéma!!"
Elles sont TOUTES les plus grosseS salopes du cinéma!!
I loathe Isabelle Adjani. Her über-collagened face looks like a baby's bum.
- Why is the 'Best German actress' thread not loading?
Anyone else have this problem?
- R72 hon, you have always the right to reach for mental help in an asylum. No worries! Everything will be fine...
- R73, yes, some jerk 'exterminated' the Best German actress thread. What a pity though. Why to do such a thing? People are strange.
- OP's poll on Australian actresses will be missing Cate Blanchett.
- I don't think Arletty deserves to make the list, but she did give one of the best performances of all time in French cinema for Les Enfants du Paradis.
- I can never say this enough when given the opportunity on DL, but Isabelle Adjani is one of the worst actresses ever.
And for the person @ R58 who mistyped, "Of those you listed I'd puck Isabel Adjani" . . .
I think you forgot an "e" at the end of that word.
- I eat shit.
The Streep troll (tm)
- Then somebody should start a new thread.
NEW THREAD REQUEST!
If a paying member is reading this: we need a poll thread, entitled:
"Best German actress"
as a compendium to the French & Italian threads.
Please start this very necessary and important thread for us!
The poll options should be:
Marlene Dietrich; Luise Rainer; Hildegard Knef; Lilli Palmer; Elke Sommer; Christine Kaufmann; Hanna Schygulla; Brigitte Mira; Barbara Sukowa; Franka Potente.
- R77 Marlon Brando once said about Arletty:
"I was annoyed all these Hollywood beauties, long before I began to act in films. I fell in love only once in Arletty, after looking" Comedians. " What a wonderful movie! I went to Paris, where he met with the French star. My God, Arletty was like polished stone - smooth and radiant. However, about her character could break his teeth. She neglected everything and everyone. I will never forget as a typical provincial parvenu anger she threw an ashtray at her maid of sandalwood and immediately after that took the most seductive pose: mysterious downcast eyes, slender legs, open up to the thighs, the tip of the shadow of a smile in the lips ... "
- Oh, R78, i also forgot to mention that Marlon Brando's favorite film was "Les Enfants du Paradis"
- 'Isabelle Huppert is winning the poll because she has such an international carrier and is a consumate professional. Her performances aren't always that inspired, though. More often than not she does the same thing over and over. She does pick very good material and her films tend to be at least interesting'
I fully agree with this, r55.
She is incredibly limited, yet masterful within her limitations - and she tackles very intellectual, offbeat material. Due to the radicalness, her work is entertaining to watch.
All these things make her seem like THE most talented, when clearly she is not.
It's comparable to how Jessica Lange is perceived as THE talent bar none, when she has played the same character over and over and OVER again, for 3 decades now. (Unlike Streep, obviously).
I still voted for Huppert, because I find her intellectualism appealing.
I wish Sandrine Bonnaire had been on the list, and find it curious nobody here has mentioned her. She is an amazing actress, and puts all her competition to shame.
Oh, and Adjani was great in 'L'ete Meurtier', 'Possession', 'Camille Claudel' and 'Adele H.'
She too is limited, but easily as good as Huppert.
- Huppert, on top of everything else, showed in Eiqht Women (...) that she is a brilliant comedienne'.
Comedienne, yes. Brilliant? Uh, no.
She plays the same imperious, cold character in comedy as she does in drama.
8 Women was harldy a stretch for her.
Still love her, though.
- The Streep troll (tm)
Why isn't Celine Dion on this poll?
- Because she's Thai, and a celebrated chef, not an actress.
- Fanny Ardant
- Anna Karina
- Another vote for Binoche, whose absence left me to vote for Huppert.
She was robbed of an Oscar nom for the Unbearable Lightness of Being, as was Lena Olin.
- You guys forgot the most famous french actress Geneviève Bujold.
- New breed of french actresses are coming down the pipe!
Jessica Paré from Mad Men
Rachelle Lefevre from Twilight
Caroline Dhavernas from Hannibal
- She's Canadian, r91.
- Streep Troll people born in Quebec, Canada consider themselves French.
No Canadian would disagree with the statement that Quebecois people are French.
- Dion troll, nobody in France would consider a Quebecois a Frenchman.
You know that.
They're as French as Anglo-Canadians are British.
- Streep Troll just shows how ignorant you are about Canada.
[quote] They're as French as Anglo-Canadians are British.
If you ever made that announcement on the streets of Montreal you would be mobbed, and not in a good way. They would take it as an insult.
- Who cares, Dion troll?
This thread is not about them.
- It is about French Actresses which Geneviève Bujold is.
So why isn't she in the poll?
- Anna Karina is Danish, r89 - though most of her career was in French films.
- The Dion troll is hoping to start a screamfest similar to the Italian actresses' thread but is failing so epically. Never mind Dion isn't even an actress and her long face could never be allowed in movies.
- NEW THREAD REQUEST!
Could a paying member please start a poll thread:
"Best Scandinavian actress?"
This is VERY much needed, to make things complete.
Poll options should be:
Greta Garbo, Ingrid Bergman, Harriet Andersson, Bibi Andersson, Ingrid Thulin, Liv Ullmann, Ghita Norby, Lena Olin, Bjork, Noomi Rapace.
(And before you object, re Bjork: ethnically, culturally & politically, Iceland is very much a part of Scandinavia. So is Finland, but she never produced an actress of worldwide fame).
- Agreed, r100.
Dion troll is failing miserably.
- Hilarious that the two OSCAR-fucking-wining French actresses were left off the list.
1. Juliette Binoche, simply one of the all-time greats in any language, male or female. I've never seen a moment in her work where she isn't alive and making the perfect acting choice.
2. Catherine Deneuve. Whoever said she's not that great is idiotic. Goddess of cinema.
3. Isabelle Huppert. I find her too opaque at times, but she makes great script choices.
4. DELPHINE SEYRIG!!!! Where is she in this discussion?
- Is Charlotte Gainsbourg considered a French or a pan-European actress? I've only seen her perform in English, but she's wonderful despite being the walking definition of jolie laide.
- R104, I guess she would be considered Anglo-French, but she was raised in Paris, so wouldn't she be considered French? Oh, but Serge Gainsbourg's parents came from Ukraine, so... I don't know.
Jeanne Moreau is also Anglo-French (mother was English), but we consider her as French as French can be. Isabelle Adjani is German-Algerian, and yet she is French!
- Its annoying the poll only has 10 choices, it needs 20 for all these French dames.
Delphine Seyrig is a key contender. She is deliciously campy and funny in lots of items, not least Daughters of Darkness and her Fairy godmother, the Lilac fairy, in Demy's Peau D'Ane (Donkey Skin).
Despite her Oscar win Binoche just does not interest me ...
- We are talking about Geneviève Bujold R100
She should also be on the list
- r107, Genevieve Bujold is not French. She's Canadian.
She's worked in some French films in French, yes, but so have Jane Fonda, Jodie Foster and Ingrid Bergman - and no one would argue that they are French.
- R108 the ENTIRE country of Canada considers Quebec a FRENCH province.
So you are right and an entire country is wrong?
- R109, in the 2006 census, 28.9% of the Quebecois identified themselves as being of French ethnicity, while 60.1% self-identified as Canadian. Only 1.9% claimed they were ethnically Québécois. Respondents were allowed to give more than one answer. So here you have a majority of Quebecois acknowledging their "Canadianness."
- Yes but a minority of Quebecois identified themselves as being of French ethnicity.
That being said a certain portion of Quebecois consider themselves French.
So Genevieve Bujold is a french actress. Why is she not on the list?
- Don't respond to the Bujold/Dion troll; it is attempting to recreate the Marisa Tomei hysteria found on the other thread, and has chosen Bujold as its vessel.
- Where is Sarah Bernhardt?
- I eat French and troll shit.
- I find her intoxicating.
- lol, R112
and Bujold is "French-Canadian" or "Quebecoise"
- I like a lot Sophie Marceau. I hope she didn't do anything to her mouth though. Can you tell by this picture if she did? Maybe, it's just a bad photo. She was in a funeral in that one.
- No, it doesn't appear that she did, R117.
- I hope so R18, cause she is such a natural beauty.
- [quote] and Bujold is "French-Canadian"
So she should be put on the list
- Put Marceau on the list! Now!
- As much as I love Marion, no one can touch the holy trinity of the Isabelles and Deneuve.
- What do gay men feel about boobs? You like Sophie's boobs?
- Romane Bohringer
- Sophie, Sophie...Sophie!
- Hey, cute guys, make a thread for Best Spanish/Mexican actress as well, come on sweeties!
- Yes R126, that is much more obvious and less limited than some of the ones that have been done.
R123/R125 Sophie is a gorgeous Isabelle Adjani lookalike. I liked her in La fidélité, almost a modern day Adele H.
But of course I got that for nudity of the unbelievably gorgeous Guillaume Canet. There's plenty of threads for Marion but none for her man, the prettiest of pretty boys.
- R117, sorry to disappoint you but yes, Sophie Marceau obviously did something to her face.
R127, yes, 'La fidélité contains much nudity. There is a scene which you can see a couple of penises, a team of nude athletes celebrating their victory.(No sex between men though) However you can take a look at their penises and their asses. They are dancing, celebrating their victory together and nude!
- All this chat, and no mention of the queen of daytime tv, Megan Draper (who is French Canadian)?
Or her mother, Julia Ormond?
- I like a lot of these French actresses and grew up seeing their films, but am mystified at the recent success of Marion Cotillard - how come she is everywhere? I see nothing attractive or special about her.
- Sabine Azéma especially opposite Philippe Noiret in "La vie et rien d'autre" (Life and Nothing But).
Agree with R85 about Huppert.
Jeanne owns this thread.
- Carole Bouquet gets my vote
- Another vote for Carole Bouquet
- New breed Lea Seydoux. Great in La vie'de Adele