- Pippin Will Win!
- Anyway, Steve K, Kathleen's GF and John Slattery's gigantic member were seen coming out of a bar... talking about the price of Tom Hanks tickets and whether there would be discounts soon even if the show was making its nut...
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- Very surprising that Nathan Lane doesn't have star billing in "The Nance". At least, not on the poster.
- chalfantz gf?
Lea Delaria, droppin' a deuce and watching Girls on HBO
- If that Durang drek wins a Pulitzer the theater is officially a septic dump tank (right now it is unofficially so).
- It can't be any worse than More Raisins in the Sun or whatever that overrated Bruce Norris play is called.
- LUCKY GUY reviews respectful but very meh.
Does it matter? Limited run, big movie star, big advance, highest-grossing play this season (or in recent memory).
As Tom Hanks says in the play, FUCK THE CRITICS.
- I'll bet he says it with a lot of feeling tonight.
- Steve Krazee is definitely a "weakly nut"
- OP no mention about Kathleen Chalfant?
- I'd love to know the nut on shows. I heard that Lion King's nut is close to a million and that Wicked is 800,000 and Chicago is 400,000. Anyone know real numbers?
- Isn't Orlando Bloom a bit long in the tooth to be playing Romeo?
- OK, what is with this talk of John Slattery naked in The Lisbon Traviata? I worked on the production. John was never naked at any of the MTC performances, and not during the first few weeks of the Promenade run. he wore a jockstrap the whole time. Part of the reason was that Lynn Meadow was already worried that the play was too gay for subscribers without having full frontal male nudity as well. Second, I don't know if Anthony Heald is prudish or homophobic, but he would not appear on stage if John was nude, even for the brief stage cross. Anthony also would not allow a real porno magazine to be used. I was an ordinary magazine with the cover of a porno mag.
On another odd note, Dan Butler insisted that a religious pamphlet be placed in his jacket pocket for every performance.
- Okay, wtf r14? Was the whole cast a bunch of religious nutjobs?
Actors really are strange.
- Which brings us right back to Steve K!!!
- I saw Lisbon Traviata at the Promenade and Slattery was totally naked. He has a huge dick and the audience gasped and then laughed at itself for doing so. The old ladies in front of me giggled and chatted about his nude scene as soon as the show was over, no chatter about Nathan or the play just the size of John's dick from them.
- Tool Michael Reidel will continue to shill for the very derivitive and mediocre Kinky. The reviews will probably be good cause it is so uncool to hate on drag queens.
- Of course, Slattery was naked! I couldn't forget that.
- R19, the joke may have worked if you signed it David Charles, not Jane Greenwood.
- But only you r20 would recognize the name David Charles.
- R21, since you replied, I hope you did as well ;-)
- R14- Anthony Heald was in LOVE! VALOUR! COMPASSION! which contained a lot of male nudity. He may not have gotten nude (Frankly, I don't remember anyone other than Randy Becker and Justin Kirk) but Heald was around a lot of cocks on stage at the Walter Kerr.
- R14, he may have gotten over it. Indeed, he may have gotten over it during the Promenade run of The Lisbon Traviata. All I know is that during TLT he was very much against it.
- I saw Lisbon at The Promenade and Slaterry entered from the bedroom? bathroom? totally naked--and it was a time before there was a lot of male nudity on stage so beside the fact the his cock was huge, it stood out (no pun intended)
- SOMEONE removed all the April Fool's "jokes" from her website. Guess it was too much, even for her.
- I too saw LISBON TRAVIATA at the Promenade and I hope I wasn't with my mother - vaguely I recall being there with my mother - because indeed John Slattery made his entrance naked and indeed he has a giant penis.
It was all the more notable because LISBON TRAVIATA is a play with a great first act and a stupid second act, and Slattery was in the second act. The first act belonged entirely to Nathan Lane, who gave one of the greatest performances of all time, and this before he was "Nathan Lane!" He really is a wonderful actor, he's one of those actors who can land joke after joke after joke and yet still convey a ton of subtext and break your heart with his hilarity. It's a gift, a comic genius not many actors have, and I'd put Elaine Stritch on that list and maybe Holland Taylor. . . Indeed, only women come to mind, other than Lane.
An actor who, the more she or he makes you laugh, the more deeply he or she digs into the pain behind the laughter.
(If you think I'm wrong about Stritch, you didn't see her in A DELICATE BALANCE.)
The character Lane plays is not in the second act of LISBON, alas, except in recordings on the phone, and you totally miss him, because there really is nothing to watch in Act 2 except Slattery's penis. Slattery's penis took the place of Nathan Lane, it pointed to, maybe even represented the absence of, Nathan Lane, it was all, "I know you want Nathan Lane back, but this is what you're getting," and it was almost, almost enough. (And it was a lot.)
- Victoria Clark sounds 80 years old when she sings.
- Didn't Richard Thomas replace Anthony Heald in The Lisbon Traviata when it moved from MTC to the Promenade?
I know Anthony Heald replaced Stephen Spinella when L!V!C! moved from MTC to Broadway.
Heald was one of the most ubiquitous young actors in NY in the 80s and early 90s, rivalled only by Danny Gerroll and Peter Frechette. In those days, MTC would fashion entire seasons around those three boys.
Does anyone remember lovely tragic Peter Evans? He was better than all of them.
- R26- nothing new. "Her" removes the jokes at sunrise April 2nd.
MikeR's twirling kilt and silk stockings!
- did heald frechette and gerrol have a falling out with MTC? I think Danny G. might have what about the others?
- Kathleen Chalfant gets top billing in a gay movie called 'David Searching'
Also starring Anthony Rapp (Rent) and Emmy Award winner Camryn Manheim.
Why would Kathleen Chalfant get top billing over these two?
- Because her gf is tough negotiator.
- So who is her gf?
- And where shall be the pic of this slattery wang?
- "Didn't Richard Thomas replace Anthony Heald in The Lisbon Traviata when it moved from MTC to the Promenade?"
When I saw it at the Promenade, it was with Heald, Lane, Slattery, and Dan Butler (who was plenty hot too).
I believe Heald moved out to WA or OR and has been happily doing theater there for some time.
"Kathleen Chalfant gets top billing in a gay movie called 'David Searching'"
Where? When I saw the film it was Rapp and Manheim getting top billing. I use the word "saw" liberally as I switched off the video after 15 minutes. It was dreadful.
- "Testament Of Mary" last night. Gigantic mess. The fact that there's no play there is masked by loud eerie music, sound effects, awful lighting, a giant buzzard on a tree trunk(I wish I were kidding), ticketholders crowding the stage preshow while Fiona sits in a glass box, lots of throwing of tables and chairs, and then the last 15 minutes wherein Mary describes her son's crucifixion, and that is the only noteworthy part of the show. I certainly didn't need to see Fiona get naked, but something has to get the audience's attention. It's the kind of British theater that should stay in London, where it probably bored the shit out of people, too.
- Holland Taylor, Tony Award, Best Actress in a Play
Totally going to happen.
- Heald must have gotten over it, because EVERYONE is nude at one time or another (the entire cast except John Glover in tableau at the end of the play, for example).
- r 38 I said it right after she opened. Gonna happen. Laurie Metcalfe, as brilliant as she was, and she was otherworldly - has closed and Holland is brilliant plus gives the warm fuzzies so a well deserved win for my girl.
- I think Amy Morton will win best actress in a play. She was incredible, plus she's considered due because Dunagan won for AOC.
- I don't think Morton will win as there were some quibbles with her interpretation, Letts stole some of her thunder in the production and Metcalf and Taylor had larger roles. Metcalf and Taylor were more or less their shows and both of their performances were well received.
Lisbon has been revised since the Slattery production. Now Mendy gets a brief scene in act two in addition to the phone call. Malcolm Gets made act two work pretty well in the Kennedy Center production. And John Glover was an even Mendy than Lane, and Lane was great.
- VA WOOLF closed. Metcalf's play sucked. Taylor's play is a hit - got extended to September. She wrote the thing herself. Okay, it's shapeless and it doesn't know when to end. Nonetheless, it's pretty good for all that - better than some of the crap that got nominated for Best Play last year, actually. Taylor's a longtime NYC theater-type figure - her wonderful performance in Gurney's COCKTAIL HOUR! - and she's a TV star and she is a-may-zing. Amy Morton should've won the Tony for the icky AUG/OC, yes, but I don't think anybody felt like it was tragic that she lost. And she's Chicago-ish, not New Yorky. This VA WOOLF will repeat the history of the last one, Tony-wise: an award for George, nothing for Martha.
- "an even Mendy than Lane?"
Is that some kind of code?
- Interesting about the nudity at the Promenade production of The Lisbon Traviata. John Slattery was certainly not nude during dress rehearsals and previews. I wonder if it was a cynical decision to sell tickets or if at some point they all just decided, "What the hell." (I am sure John Tillinger was THRILLED!) Unfortunately, after it got on its feet on at the Promenade, I went on to another project.
FYI, Nathan was the poster child for morose, alcoholic, comedian. He had a separate dressing room and did not socialize with anyone.
- Which ending did the Kennedy Center production use?
- Heald moved to Oregon for his wife so they could raise their kids sanely. He acts all the time at the Shakespeare Festival there, occasionally gets cast in small roles in LA films.
Gerroll lives in CT with wife Patricia Kalember from Sisters. He doesn't seem very ambitious.
Frechette left for LA a long time ago to do that TV series with Ally Whatshername where his character sat at a computer the entire episode. I assume he would want NY theater work now, don't know what happened. He was certainly the sweetest of the trio.
John Benjamin Hickey was quite naked in L!V!C! He'll be disappointed that none of you remember.
- Wow, I totally thought Peter Frechette was dead. Turns out he's married to a TV director and living in LA. "Married" = not legally, not heterosexually, but in a gay way, nonetheless.
- Peter Frechette once had a love scenes with Lisa Whelchel on Facts of Life
- CINDERELLA is performing a number tonight on LATE NIGHT WITH DAVID LETTERMAN!!!
- Wow! Still with David Warren after all these years.
- Am I the only one who thought TESTAMENT OF MARY was Mary Testa's new club act at 54 Below or something?
And I had barely gotten over the fact that NEVA down at the Public was not a Neva Small one-woman career celebration and retrospective. No, it wasn't that at all.
- Oh dear God, R37. Hysterical. That sounds like a parody.
- I saw Peter Frechette in, like, everything in maybe 1985, including a wretchedly bad Paula Vogel play, if that's not redundant - I'm sorry! I think Paula Vogel is a terrible writer! - with Cherry Jones? It had a number in the title? Maybe "seven?" Or "eight?" And it had either "baby" or "children" in the title or somehow in the plot, I can't remember it was so painful I blocked it?
Another actor who was ubiquitous in that time period was Clark Gregg? Whatever happened to him?
And also there was the woman who constantly replaced people - she replaced Joan Allen in BURN THIS and she was either in or replaced someone in MARVIN'S ROOM, and what was her name?
By the way, I saw the original BURN THIS 5 times, not because I liked the play, but because I was so deeply in love with Lou Liberatore, and why didn't his career get bigger? He was a delight.
- All of this talk about the cock that was or wasn't on display in L!V!C! is useless without pics.
Is Slattery hung? Cut? Gray "down there" or did he shave for his supposedly massive meat's Broadway debut?
And what of John Benjamin Hickey's dick? Something he should be proud to display for theater queens prone to the vapors at the sight of another's manhood?
- So no one is curious about Peter Frechette hot and heavy love scene with Lisa Whelchel in Facts of Life?
He got Emmy nominated for his role in thirtysomething, for the first man-with-man bed shirtless bed scene.
- [quote] Peter Frechette once had a love scenes with Lisa Whelchel on Facts of Life.
This is why I live for DL, people.
- David Pittu...
Who's had him?
- R54, YES! Peter Frechette was in EVERYTHING for a long time.
Now what is the play with Cherry Jones? I hope you are not thinking of the sublime THE BALTIMORE WALTZ at the old Cirlce Rep space. There were 3 in that play and it also starred then-hunky Joe Mantello. Who was that other guy?
- AND BABY MAKES SEVEN.
Sorry, I was too lazy to google it in that moment.
Cherry Jones, Peter Frechette, Mary Mara
It was 1993, apparently. I totally remembered it as like 1986.
I can't recall a minute of the play. All that's left is the bitter recollection of being bored and appalled.
- Paya attention, r55. Everyone who saw him has attested to Slattery's massive cock. Why would he have been "gray" down there? This was when he was young - pics posted of him at the time in previous thread.
And this was WAY before "shaving down there" became a fashion trend.
- Reply 52. Neva Small! LOL. And I thought Neva was going to be a tribute to Neva Patterson, but I'm probably the last person who remembers her, although on DL that may not necessarily be true. The steamer at the Public, it turns out, is named for the river in St. Petersburg. ZZZZ.
I saw a Lisbon Traviata in a basement on a side street off Park Avenue. What I remember most was the very naked and very beautiful Stephen Schnetzer, who went on to TV and Another World and now does the occasional voiceover commercial. He's not quite as old as Neva Patterson was, but still ...
- Clark Gregg is married to Joel Grey's unrecognizable daughter Jennifer, and is pretty well known in LA as a writer more than an actor. He did write "What Lies Beneath", and still appears in films.
I miss Peter Frechette onstage. I can never forget how wonderful he was in NYTW's "Flesh And Blood" with Cherry Jones.
And as for David Pittu, Ewwwww, just Ewwwwww. Like Ed Koch, who'd want him?
- Next to Randy Becker and Justin Kirk, John Benjamin Hickey's nudity in LOVE! VALOUR! COMPASSION! was not all that.
- L!V!C! is a wretched little bit of white-boy faggot nonsense that totally falls apart as soon as the Nathan Lane character falls in love.
- Glover was an even better Mendy than Lane was. The KC used the bloody ending.
I think it's a close race between Taylor and Metcalf for best actress. But that Taylor also wrote her show might give her an edge. Both are really great stage actresses and each of them should probably already have a Tony and if they could appear in a new play on Broadway ever other season probably would.
- Stephen Bogardus' nudity in same WAS all that.
- I used to see Stephen Bogardus naked in the steam room at the West Side Y.
I don't get John Glover, sorry.
- [quote]Peter Frechette once had a love scenes with Lisa Whelchel on Facts of Life.
Actually Lisa kisses Jimmy Baio in that episode, not Peter Frechette.
Frechette was in another episode as well, but no Blair kiss in that one, either.
- Is John Slattery and his massive member gay? I saw him and Matthew Broderick at a theater fundraiser playing in a skit of two gay actors working and dressed up as chickens but talking to each other about their relationship. I thought it was very funny and they were cute together.
As far as Jessie Mueller and Blythe Danner goes, Blythe is leaving at the end of the month and Estelle is returning. Thank God since Blythe is bloody awful in this role. Jessie and the show will probably close at summer's end since Broderick will leave on June 15 and I don't see this show lasting unless they get a big name replacement.
- What about Peter Frechette in Nicky Silver's Raised In
Captivity? Any love for that? And Eastern Standard?
- Jessie has a face that was made for radio.
- Slattery is married to Talia Balsam, the former Mrs. George Clooney. Does that make him gay or not?
- r73 Who knows anymore? I always guessed that he was straight but I'm not sure that my gaydar works as well as it used to.
- So glad to read that Brantley dumped on Lucky Guy as a play. No doubt she was a fine person and good friend but from the hagiography Nora Ephron has received since her demise, you'd think she was Tolstoy instead of someone who wrote and directed a couple of pleasant, formulaic rom-coms.
- R70, I saw Parsons and doubt Danner could be worse. "LOOK AT ME ACTING! I AM MAKING BIG HUGE CHOICES AND TAKING LONG PAUSES AND MY WORDS ARE VERY LONG TOO! VERY PERIOD!!"
- Bogardus did have a nice looking cock, that I do remember.
- April 22, 2013
Avery Fisher Hall, Lincoln Center
Award Presentation by President Bill Clinton
Join us for a once-in-a-lifetime, star-studded event to honor the life and film career
of the legendary Barbra Streisand.
The event will be attended by a host of notable guests and celebrities honoring Ms. Streisand’s film career, including Pierce Brosnan, Blythe Danner, Richard Dreyfuss, Amy Irving and Kris Kristofferson. In addition, the evening will feature show-stopping musical performances by Tony Bennett, Kristin Chenoweth, Wynton Marsalis and Liza Minnelli. The tribute will culminate with the presentation of the Chaplin Award to Ms. Streisand by President Bill Clinton.
- And I'll be there, too!
- Blythe Danner's 11 PM appearance in that awful awful thing with Matthew Broderick was the only moment in the entire evening that was remotely endurable.
Worst. Musical. I. Have. Ever. Seen.
Okay, not as bad as that unspeakably bad revival of THE BOYS FROM SYRACUSE.
Hard to imagine you could make R&Hart or the Gershwins unwatchable, but producers and directors continue to find a way.
- Jon Vickery, Michael Countryman and Laila Robins also seemed to be in every new play in NY in the 1980s.
As were Patricia Clarkson, Boyd Gaines and Dylan Baker but their careers are still thriving.
John Slattery's hair went grey very prematurely. I'm not sure he wasn't being asked to dye it just a few short years after Lisbon Traviata.
The actor who was in bed with Peter Frechette on that Thirtysomething episode was none other than David Marshall Grant who is one of the writers/producers of SMASH.
- I hope Blythe Danner has an opportunity to bump into some chorus boys in Nice Work.
Liza will sing The Music That Makes Me Bray. I mean, Dance.
- R80 you missed Mamma Mia, Spring Awakening and Next to Normal? Nice Work is a far better star vehicle/Gershwin rewrite than My One and Only was with Tommy Tune trying to act, be cute and play straight in an even sillier plot.
- I loathed SPRING BLECH and NEXT TO DRECK, yes, r83, there were stupid and boring, both of them. Didn't see M SQUARED or the Tommy Tune thing.
But NICE WORK is an embarrassment: idiotic "plot," ugly ugly sets, Kelli O'Hara has less personality than Kraft Cheese, and poor Matthew Broderick looks trapped in his body, like he got caught inside a Macy's Thanksgiving Day balloon, and he just looks stoned and unhappy, and why did Judy Kaye get all that praise? She was perfectly adequate.
It's Ugly to Look at, Painful to Sit Through.
Kathleen Marshall is as bad a director as Jerry Mitchell who is as bad a director as Rob Ashford who is as bad as. . .
The musical is dead.
- Saw Eastern Standard with Patricia Clarkson, Peter Frechette, Dylan Baker and the gorgeous Kevin Conroy. I'm still in love with Clarkson and Frechette was amazing.
- EASTERN STANDARD was a dung pile of yuppie nonsense.
- R86, I remember it as anti-Yuppie. Still nonsense, but I don't remember the Yuppie characters coming off well.
- It was yuppie nonsense posing as an anti-yuppie critique. Dreadful play.
- [quote]I saw a Lisbon Traviata in a basement on a side street off Park Avenue. What I remember most was the very naked and very beautiful Stephen Schnetzer...
I saw that original production too. I thought it was touching and hilarious. Benjamin Hendrickson
and Seth Allen were in that cast along with the then super hunky Stephen Schnetzer were all very good. This production was directed by the late Al Harris who also directed "Stardust" which moved to Broadway. Seth Allen died the following year also of AIDS, at only 45 years of age. I remember thinking he was an "old Queen", and of course I'm over 45 now myself!
- R88, OK I will go with that, particularly the "dreadful play" part.
- And I mean I loved all the actors.
The play, though: feh. And Frank Rich just came all over it.
- Clark Gregg was super-hot but a horrible comedian for many years on THE NEW ADVENTURES OF OLD CHRISTINE, and he was very effective in THE AVENGERS. He's doing fine.
- [quote]Clark Gregg is married to Joel Grey's unrecognizable daughter Jennifer, and is pretty well known in LA as a writer more than an actor. He did write "What Lies Beneath", and still appears in films.
I always thought he was hot, especially when he played Julia Louis-Dreyfus's ex in "Old Christine."
- To the people who talk endlessly about the dimensions of actors penises in Off-Broadway plays 20 years... do you still get laid?
"The musical is dead."
It may indeed be but not officially until I'm six feet under along with it pushin' up daisies.
- More Slattery cock, please!
- Just today on TV:
John Benjamin Hickey in The New Normal
Dylan Baker in SMASH.
- How come nobody remembers the name of the woman who replaced Joan Allen in BURN THIS?
- With the closing of the Cat revival, Broadway will be spared from Rob Ashford's limited talents for the rest of the year. Unless he is working on another celebrity driven revival.
Ricky, Sean, Daniel, Scarlett
- [quote]How come nobody remembers the name of the woman who replaced Joan Allen in BURN THIS?
I don't remember her name, but she had a huge cock.
- r98 wasn't it Lisa Emery who is still working a lot
Eric Roberts was a great replacement in that
- Lisa Emery! Thank you thank you. I saw here with Eric Roberts, and I have to say: although I'd already seen the play three times, I couldn't understand at least 1/3rd of Roberts's lines. He garbled and garbled and garbled.
- I too saw John Slattery in LISBON and remember no cock that was huge or massive, as some have reported. (My friends who knew hi at the time did say he was clearly fluffed or self-fluffed before his entrance.)
I have seen him nude at the gym more than once and he has a very respectable cock. Not huge or massive, just a bit bigger than average. Admittedly, it was always flaccid. Nice body, too, and he is grayish "down there."
- [quote] Fiona sits in a glass box
Who does she think she is - Tilda Swinton?
- Holland Taylor was offered an enormous amount of money to stay on Two and a Hafl Men bit she wanted to do her play so she said no. Then they offered even MORE money for her to stay. She said no. Then they offered her an obscene amount of money. It was hard for her to say no but she did because she really cared about her play that she had worked so hard on.
- I saw Eric Roberts in the Boston tryout of MASS APPEAL - he was young and HOT HOT HOT. In the week after it closed (and before NY previews), he was in a terrible automobile accident and had to re-learn how to walk and talk. He was replaced for NY by Zjelko Ivanek, who got a Tony nomination for it.
- Had the pleasure of sitting next to Patricia Clarkson (and her hot young stud date) at MOUND BUILDERS on Friday last at Signature. The play and production STANK to high heaven, but talking to Patty made my week. I asked when we might see her on a NY stage again, and she said she's working on a Tallulah Bankhead show that she hopes the Vineyard will do in the fall. (Just as long as it's not written by Nicky Silver, it will be great!)
- That's great news, r107! Quite jealous of you ;)
- Holland Taylor is phenomenally talented.
- Cinderella sucked on Letterman. Victoria Clark was phony. She looked like someone's old maiden aunt who pretends to be nice but is mean. Her "antennae" look like antlers. She should shoot William Ivey Long for what he did to her.
On the other hand, Santino Fontana sounded great on his little bit of a solo.
- His voice was sexy and beautiful. Laura Osnes was bland.
- [quote]He was replaced for NY by Zjelko Ivanek, who got a Tony nomination for it.
you are correct up until the Tony nomination stuff r106
Ivanek wasn't nominated for Mass Appeal but was for Brighton Beach and some other stuff later on.
- Yeah, Slattery probably jerked off a minute before heading out onstage.
- Hold onto your heads as they will begin to explode all over town....5.....4....3....2.....1.......
CATS is coming back to Broadway.
You heard it hear first.....
- r106 he just died. did you know that when you asked?
- [quote](Just as long as it's not written by Nicky Silver, it will be great!)
This is true of every play.
- [quote] Laura Osnes was bland.
When is she not?
- I believe Zelko opened the show off bway Michael Okeefe was in the bway transfer
- all of this talk about young stage actors that were prominent in the 80s is a sad reminder of better time when you could have a creer in NY doing plays-and not be off a TV show or a reality series or an A List movie star. Now, the average Off bway (ie not for profit, since commercial Off bway is a relic) play runs from 3-8 weeks and Bway plays are now designed to only run 12-16 weeks
- HOW MANY PLAYS ABOUT TALLULAH BANKHEAD CAN ONE CULTURE BEAR?
Jesus Christ, she said some funny things but didn't exactly have the kind of career that changed the world or is even remembered anymore. But somehow she's dethroned Shakespeare's Cleopatra as the go-to role for actresses of a certain age. What the fuck?
- Eric Roberts did MASS APPEAL Off-Broadway. O'Keefe took over the part on Broadway.
Ivanek did the film version with Jack Lemmon.
BTW, the actor who played the role in London was Rupert Everett.
- Lisa Emery is one of those perennially underrated actresses. I've found her terrific in pretty much everything she's done.
- R122 she has played over 5 different characters on Law & Order
Wonder how she supports herself being primarily a theatre actress in NY
- Michael Cumptsy is doing PRESENT LAUGHTER at 2 river theater in NJ this summer. Directed by David Lee [ Creator of Fraser Producer of Cheers] with a cast of NYC heavy hitters how is this regional attracting this level. Does it have legs?
- I saw Lisa Emery in BURN THIS, PRESENT LAUGHTER, and MARVIN'S ROOM. Yes! She's a delightful actor.
- [quote] HOW MANY PLAYS ABOUT TALLULAH BANKHEAD CAN ONE CULTURE BEAR?
There's a new play about Bankhead?
- That's true, R120. The sad thing is that Clarkson would probably make a great Bankhead but I can't imagine a playwright bringing anything new to the story unless they perhaps focus on her arc on 'Batman' as the Black Widow.
- r126: see r107
- Saw first preview of BIG FISH last night. Reminds me of another long ago Chicago try out, Sweet Smell of Success. Looks like a musical, acts like a musical but because of the source material, it really doesn't want to be a musical. It's sort of ambitious, but doesn't feel necessary. Just sort of sits there.
Because of all the fantasy sequences, the show takes too long to move forward, and its just not compelling. Norbert is a bit lost but he'll find his way, but there's really nothing forward for him to play. They've made a disastrous choice in Bobby Steggert because he is naturally whiny, and this character does nothing but whine for most of the night. You really want to kick him off the stage half way through act one. Kate Baldwin is lovely with a thin part.
Stroman throws everything she's got at it, but again proves that she's so so at developing new musicals. Oh how I wished she'd done "Nice Work..." The final 15 minutes are solid, but by then its way too late, and you've long given up.
The other big problem is the music. If you thought the Addam's Family score was deadly, wait till you hear this. One average overwritten song after another. Andrew Lippa just doesn't have the chops. It's like "John and Jen" on meth.
I think they can make it better, but I don't think its fixable. Will be an interesting one to watch what happens. I suspect that the Chicago crix will be really supportive (as they were with Addams) and it will get a "meh" in New York, if it gets there. It will be interesting to see how Norbert fares. It could be another "Catch Me" where he gets all the reviews, but here with Baldwin.
- r124, the reason Two River is getting this high level of people is most likely John Dias, the new artistic director who was the #2 at the public theater for years and is very well connected.
In addition it is about an hour outside of NY so it is poised to attract really good NYC actors who don't like going out of town.
- Remember seeing Eric Roberts in the shower at the West Side Y, before he was anybody. Now THERE was a large cock when flaccid.
- OP, I just noticed that you mentioned THE NIGHT BOAT! I actually worked on that play. What made you think of that old chestnut.
- That's too bad, R129. I actually thought this was a good idea for a musical, but I totally get how the son character (one of the weaker elements in the movie) could be even worse when put on stage and made to sing.
Like I said, I didn't care for the son in the movie, but the bitch of it is, if you soften him too much or make him too likable, you lose the power of that ending.
Sounds like they have a lot of work ahead of them. Having a musical virgin for their bookwriter isn't going to help.
- Oh, and a question R129. Did Norbert play both the young and old version of his character, or did they split it like they did in the movie (Albert Finney playing the old man and Ewan McGregor playing the younger version)?
- "John and Jen" on meth made me spit out my smoothie.
- I don't know the movie, so I think the answer is both.
- Thanks, R136.
- Yes, but what is Big Fish's nut?! Dramedy MUST know...
- But what about MY flaccid onstage cock?
- New production of Pippin is as good as everyone says. The lead actor is cute, takes his shirt off a few times and does some great acrobatic stunts.
- BIG FISH was a dreary intolerable movie.
I can't imagine it'd be a fun musical.
I love love love love love love love love love love love Norbert, and would watch him do anything.
- Thank you R129!
"They've made a disastrous choice in Bobby Steggert because he is naturally whiny, and this character does nothing but whine for most of the night."
All he ever does is whine!
Isn't John Dias Michael's husband? That might explain a lot.
- John Dias and Michael Cumptsy are partners, I don't know if they got married. My bf's ex worked with Dias at the Public and said he is a great guy. The David Lee directing this is the same David Lee who created "Fraser" and is direction the B'wy revival of Can-Can next season?
- R122 I used to babysit for Lisa Emery and she is a class act all the way. Wonderful woman and excellent actress. Loved her so much.
- [quote] The David Lee directing this is the same David Lee who created "Fraser" and is direction the B'wy revival of Can-Can next season?
Yes. He previously directed the new version of Can-Can at the Pasadena Playhouse in 2007.
- Hey, Liza! Crossed eyes is my look!
- R145 how does she make a living being a NYC theater actress? Does she have a rich hubby?
- ive also tried to watch the movie of Big Fish 3 or 4 times and never get past the first 15 min
- r146, did you see that production of Can-Can?
- Was Slattery in the LA/Taper production with Nathan Lane and Richard Thomas? Naked there.
- Yes I did, and I liked it, save for the "fartiste" bit that they added.
- I've seen most of the stuff David Lee has done in LA, including his wretched Reprise revisals. He's awful. Can't believe his CAN-CAN is going to Broadway. It sucked.
- [quote] All he ever does is whine!
The only time he didn't was when his daddy du jour was pushing his face in a pillow....
- "The other big problem is the music. If you thought the Addam's Family score was deadly, wait till you hear this. One average overwritten song after another. Andrew Lippa just doesn't have the chops. It's like "John and Jen" on meth."
Can someone explain to me how such a consistently lackluster talent can have a Broadway career? It beggars belief.
- This isn't really theatre gossip, but I had to post it somewhere and since it involved Lord Andrew Lloyd Webber, and Evita, I'll put it here. Apparently there was some special concert and his songs were being performed and Nicole Scherzinger, who was a Pussycat Doll sang Don't Cry for me Argentina, and holy shit.
She killed it. Who knew?
Warning: I found in on PerezHilton's gossip blog. But still...
- Ok, just saw Pippin. I thought it was pretty darn great.
- Damn R156. Not a LW or Dolls fan, but she sang the SHIT outta that song.
- Yes, she sang well, but more importantly, she actually made sense of those dreadful lyrics with intelligent interpretation and phrasing.
- [quote]Was Slattery in the LA/Taper production with Nathan Lane and Richard Thomas? Naked there.
no. Sean O'Bryan played the role.
- Lisa Emery actually does make a living as an actress - everybody loves her and she works several times a year in showy parts off-Broadway. She was GREAT in the Atlantic's Pinter one-acts 2 seasons ago as the coma victim in A KIND OF ALASKA.
She used to be married to Josh Pais, who is also an actor - most famous I guess for playing one of the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles when they were first on the big screen. Now he sort of acts and directs.
He and Lisa are divorced, but they have a son together (who played the boy in that Nicole Kidman film, Margot at the Wedding). Josh's late father, however, was a very wealthy man who was best friends with Albert Einstein (yes, Einstein) and was the Einstein expert, writing several books about him, which is where the money came from. Josh and Lisa's son Zane was the old man's only grandchild, so he left the boy a huge trust with Lisa as caretaker. So they have a nice cushion to fall back on.
(OK, I know too much - my Mom was very close to old Dr. Pais in his later years)
- Lisa Emery was great in The Women revival.
- [quote]Can someone explain to me how such a consistently lackluster talent can have a Broadway career?
Who else is there?
Mediocre as he is, Lippa gets hired because there aren't many other options. If you're not pursuing the likes of Cyndi Lauper, Menken, Sting or Elton John, you're looking at a very short list: Shaiman, Lopez (I guess), Lippa, the guys who wrote CHRISTMAS STORY, the guys who wrote ELF, the guys who wrote NEXT TO NORMAL. Who else? It's depressing.
Lippa's the guy who has experience under his belt, but is still thankful for the opportunity.
- r153 did Jason Alexander take Reprise over from David Lee?
I actually liked Can-Can and can see why producers thought it had potential on Broadway. I had never seen it on stage prior to the David Lee one so I can't compare with earlier incarnation. Someone like David Lee who must be richer than GOD from Fraser etc, would have his pic of actors because of his television past and connections.
- Jeff Blumenkrantz's songs are wonderful, but he hasn't the initiative to do a musical.
Frankel/Korie haven't had any great follow-up to GREY GARDENS. The numbing HAPPINESS stopped them dead for awhile. I've heard 'ehh' about FINDING NEVERLAND, but Will Kelli & FAR FROM HEAVEN help them out of the slump?
- [quote]Apparently there was some special concert and his songs were being performed and Nicole Scherzinger, who was a Pussycat Doll sang Don't Cry for me Argentina, and holy shit. She killed it. Who knew?
Well, anyone who saw her do this (click link) last year. What a lost opportunity the "Evita" revival was after this. Don't know what her problem is, but after her pop success with the garbage Pussycat Dolls, she has done nothing with her career. She is gorgeous, sings like that, and dances her ass off, she won "Dancing With The Stars". Why is nobody hiring this girl?
- /whois Will Kelli, R165?
- Damn, did she hit that last note!!! Thanks for the link, R166. It's upsetting to see someone who is so obviously gifte be ignored.
She dances, not only does she sing, but she's versatile with her voice, she can act, at least for the stage, and she's beautiful. I think Nicole was "type cast" as a Pussycat Doll, and dumbass Americans can only see her one way.
At the very least she needs better representation. She needs an agent who will find her the kind of work her level of talent deserves, she is criminally underutilized.
- If he revive Guys & Dolls yet again, Nicole Scherzinger would be great as Adelaid.
- They need to do a revival of Rags
- Spencer Liff - straight or gay?
- Biff Liff - straight or gay?
- [R132]: Was your Night Boat production the one in New York many years ago, produced by Bill Tynes' company? The director of that staging is a friend of mine.
- Scherzinger probably doesn't want stage work. It's not like she NEEDS to do 8 shows a week for a year--she's making out just fine without it, obviously.
- Biff McGuire - straight or gay?
- Nicole who?
Patti "We taught the world new ways to DREEAAAOOOOOHHHHHHHHHM!" LuPone
- Biff Loman = bossy bottom
- Linda Loman
Blah Blah Blah
- Biff Loman is a withholding top.
He's the kind of guy who'd get you all hot, and then when you took him home, he'd be like, "I'm kind of tired," and he'd want to watch NetFlix.
Or he'd want to jerk off into your palm.
He would never really want his penis inside you.
But/and he'd never let you get your penis anywhere near his mouth or ass.
He's a conflicted unhappy Jack Kerouacky straight guy who is emotionally gay and sexually shut-down. He fell in love with a cowboy out west, but they never had sex. Once in a while he fucked a Chinese girl, just to convince himself he wasn't a fag.
- Biff Loman is a fictional character R179.
- r180, why do you go to the theater?
Jesus, so literal and unplayful and unimaginative and huffy.
No wonder Broadway theater is so awful, with people like you in its audience.
- What will it take to mount a revival of Rags?
That is such an underrated musical, with so much potential.
- About half the score for RAGS is tremendous. But the plot is blah. If the story's broken, there's no saving it.
- I predict bad reviews for Kinky Boots. Audiences are enjoying it too much for the critics to tolerate!
- [quote] I predict bad reviews for Kinky Boots. Audiences are enjoying it too much for the critics to tolerate!
Well you're wrong. Sorry. Go back to ATC and commiserate with all of the other "insiders" who just can't BELIEVE that a show they didn't LOVE is getting raves.
- Assembled Parties is a big old mess of a play with many plot holes, character inconsistencies and lazy dramaturgy but the actors, particularly Judith Light, Jessica Hecht and Jeremy Shamos, are all so adept at creating quirky lived-in characters that I more than happily went on the journey from beginning to end.
It's a play that had more resonance afterwards than it did while I watched it.
I predict some great reviews....maybe even a commercial transfer if a theater becomes available.
- Kinky gets a qualified good review in the NYTimes. Rave for Cyndi Lauper. Fierstein gets singed a little. Which he deserves, frankly.
- The NYTimes review of KINKY BOOTS was the most backhanded review I've read since his review of Mamma Mia
- The NYT Kinky Boots review assures that Lauper, Porter, Sands, Ashford and the show will get Tony noms. Harvey, no.
- Is anyone familiar with 3D Theatricals in Orange County, CA. I am not familiar with the group. Are the productions any good?
- R190 Yes. They're pretty much as good as Musical Theater West, if that's any help to you.
- Big Fish dying a smelly death in Chicago.
- R190 At first they were just doing shows at the Plummer Auditorium in Fullerton, but now they're doing one weekend in Redondo Beach as well (after the CLO out there went under.) I've only seen their shows at the Plummer ("Chorus Line", "Ave. Q," and a couple of others.) They have a live orchestra and good production values. I was pleasantly surprised.
One caution, however: some of the seating at the Plummer is very uncomfortable, especially in the balcony. It's a very old building.
- Thanks 191/193. I grew up in Fullerton; so, I know Plummer Auditorium all too well. Maybe if the Fox ever gets renovated, there will be an alternative.
- Saw the production of LT in SF years ago with Richard Thomas, Nathan and Dan Butler who was incredibly hot. He and the line that RT uttered, "You used to love to fuck my ass!" is what I mostly remember about the production. I kept wondering what Mary-Ellen would have made of such a statement.
Michael Learned still living with a boy's name...sigh
- Guess which major new musical is now "postponing"?
- If you tell me its nut, I can guess.
- Tuck Everlasting must be postponing because, as I reported upthread (or was it even back in the last thread?), they ain't got no theater. And they need a big one.
In spite of the bad reviews, all the new shows are hanging in. Jeckyll & Hyde was the best bet but it'll be too late by the time it opens and hangs on.
- FULLERTON? Let's get back to Kathleen's GF or at least Michael Urie's new gig. At least that's gossip.
- I am fat
- Tiffany's is surprisingly wonderful. Scotched by critics but I found it much more interesting than the film.
- Jeez those "Theater Lovers" on the boards just can't accept "Kinky Boot" got good reviews. And they wonder why the real theater community mock them.
- R202 I think the good reviews are great, it keeps actors working.
Just because I don't love a show does not mean others need to feel the same way.
- There was a song from TUCK EVERLASTING online somewhere (Playbill? BroadwayWorld?). Jeremy Jordan sang it. It was pretty rank. Not quite pretty enough to be pretty. Not quite artsy enough to be art.
- i bet it's YANK that's postponing. Will that show ever come in?
- So if Barbra's Margaret Bourke-White film is going forward, does that mean no Gypsy? Discuss.
- Is that the same woman Candace Bergen played in Gandhi?
- Isn't Yank holding out for Jeremy Jordan?
- Kinky Boots got good reviews but they might not be money reviews. All of them tell the reader the show is trite, predictable, unbelievable and about drag queens. They all love Lauper's score. It sounds like buy the recording but don't spend your $150 to me. American Idiot got better reviews but they weren't money reviews either telling you it was just the album on stage without Green Day. Unless it wins best musical I can't see it running longer than American Idiot.
- Thanks 209, you are an idiot. Tourists don't give a shit about reviews -- it's all about word of mouth and marketing.
- [quote]Kinky Boots got good reviews but they might not be money reviews. All of them tell the reader the show is trite, predictable,
It's 2013 NOBODY but theater queens read reviews anymore. It's the quotes that count and they have plenty to work with.
- [quote]So if Barbra's Margaret Bourke-White film is going forward, does that mean no Gypsy?
One can only hope that's what it means. Maybe they did some test footage of the CGI process she planned to use and realized it was impossible to make her look like the mother of little girls.
- Kinky had to get good reviews even though it is a meh show.....Cindy is a well loved gal from Queens who is kind, Harvey is well liked in the community for his support of theater, Jerry Mitchell is the new Jerome Robbins, and....the critics will never diss a show about drag queens (well- the first revival of LaCage was pretty awful). On another note- Why didn't the millionaire producers spring for a dialect coach - the "British" accents are atrocious.
- Better question: why did they bother setting Kinky Boots in the UK instead of any number of failing industrial US cities?
- R214 = Terence McNally
- Saw it in Chicago before some probably minor changes. Audiences LOVED it. People from Omaha and Des Moines will love it. It's just fun and fluffy. Much better than a lot of other more artistic, technically challenging crap I have seen on Broadway. And Lauper gives good score
- Why would KINKY be a hit when PRISCILLA tanked?
People are tired of drag-queens on Broadway.
- FUCK KINKY BOOTS. Here's a real gay dance number.
Here's Chits circa 1968 with the HOTTEST, GAYEST bunch of chorus boys you ever saw.
You will be CUMMING (not Alan) when this number is over.
- R218 Was that from The Hollywood Palace? It sure looks like it. The first dance they show was a guy who was always on Carol Burnett, but I'm sure they weren't exclusive.
Also, those costumes! The dancers looked like a '60s version of The Village People!
- [R219]: That dancer is Don Crichton. He was on Broadway at least once, in Fade Out Fade In. I still remember, as a wee tad, he and Vicki Lawrence dancing a "Romeo and Juliet" pas de deux on a summer replacement fill-in for the Burnett show.
- Just back from Kinky Bots. For all its warm, fuzzy and sledgehammer messages of you-go-girl empowerment, it's kind of a cold and heartless show of manufactured emotion. Even the father issues ring false (at least they did to me). And one half-way decent song and one clever production number do not a musical make. Of course the audience loved it---those who didn’t arrive late or continually text or scramble for better seats when the lights dimmed, only to return to their original seats once the late-comers arrived…a veritable ninth circle of hell and very, very dispiriting.
- So R221, now we're judging a show based on the audience's behavior? Mormon is a colossally bad musical that is being touted as the best Broadway musical ever and all the patrons are drunk Wall Street guys. And the audience wasn't texting on Wednesday when I went.
I do agree that the father plot line particularly the kids running into their father's arms at the end felt hollow and false.
- [quote] Isn't Yank holding out for Jeremy Jordan?
Yank! is holding out for anyone willing to pay for any sort of next production. You can't actually assume that if they had a viable (other than talking about it online) plan to open on Broadway and someone to pay for it that they;d wait for him. And after his profile-raising turn on Smash, is he really going to do Yank!?
Don't get me wrong it was a cute musical; but not much better than any of the NYMF/Fringe/Off-Broadway gay musicals. And now with DOMA likely being thrown out and gay marriage support at an all time high and DADT gone is it have any relevancy? They've done it numerous times in NYC. Has it been three or four productions? Time to move on, boys.
- Once David Cromer dropped out of the YANK! workshops (because he asked for changes the authors weren't willing to make), they lost their producers as well.
YANK! is now being marketed to regional houses, but no one wants it, and no one in New York wants it either. It's dead as a dodo, but the authors won't give up, because they don't have another show in them. Too bad for them and too sad.
- Is Tuck Every-last-fucking-thing another drag queen musical?
3M Scotch Duct Tape
- I already asked that question about why set KINKY BOOTS in England. Pay attention! There is NO REASON why it couldn't be in a failing US industrial city - there are so many to choose from!
Because: THE ACTORS CANNOT MANAGE BRITISH ACCENTS.
Poor Stark Sands, I'd say his attempt to sound British ruins his performance, but it's the script that ruins his performance.
THE SCRIPT IS AWFUL.
Harvey Fierstein should wake up and realize it's not 1972 anymore.
All that bullshit about the beautiful regal drag queen who, in a dress, is more of a man than you will ever be in pants. . .
And the second act is incoherent.
The plot runs out by the end of Act 1, and Fierstein just MAKES UP SHIT to get us through Act 2.
No fun jokes, no laugh lines, no real people, no reality to a minute of the show. Okay, it's a musical, and "reality" and "musical" are by definition mutually exclusive concepts.
Fierstein wrecks it.
(And the music doesn't really help much, sorry.)
(And Jerry Mitchell is a motherfucking hack.)
- Bette called for a line at tonight's preview of I'LL EAT YOU LAST. Who does she think he is, Elaine Stritch?
- It's a monologue...why'd she need a line? Couldn't she just skip ahead?
- r226 if you think Mitchell is a hack, what the hell do you consider Rob Ashcan, uh Ashford???
- (because he asked for changes the authors weren't willing to make)
Cromer got all the changes he wanted. As usual, they involved making the show progressively darker and joyless, draining it of any laughs and warmth. The book got WORSE under Cromer's direction.
YANK needed lots of work but Cromer was the wrong director for the task.
- Tommy Tune for YANK!
- Speaking of dead shows, is MINSKY'S never gonna happen?
- What about a sequel to Gypsy?
- r227, she needs to wear a prompter earpiece like Angela does.
- The elephant in the corner of "Kinky Boots" is the economic realities of 2013. If there indeed was a previously unexploited market for fetish footwear that had miraculously escaped the notice of offshore manufacturers, are there really enough cross-dressers out there who are affluent enough to support an entire factory making them locally?
A musical version of "Trash" or even "Desperately Seeking Susan" would be more timely.
- Kinky Boots was EVISCERATED by the Wall Street Journal.
Hardly a theater paper, I know, but this critic truly seemed to loathe it.
- [quote] even "Desperately Seeking Susan" would be more timely.
With a jukebox score of Blondie hits, perhaps.
- The Wall St. Journal and I mostly agree, but it might be a hit anyway.
- Frank Dileo: She was a little shaky the night I saw her...
He couldn't brown nose Stritchy just a little bit? He does it to everyone else. Jerk
- "I'll Eat You Last" is what Stritch said to Frank DiLello just before they went on-air.
THAT'S why he seemed so shaky, Roma...
- Back to Nicole Scherzinger: I know she's been approached for at least one big Broadway role (and probably many more) but didn't want the long-term commitment. This was a new show.
I imagine she'll do Bway at some point...just hope she has the sense not to start with "Chicago". Or perhaps a movie musical--there sure are enough of them in development.
She would probably have been a great Anita in WSS.
- Bette's show will crash and burn in high fashion.
Serves that bitch right.
- Kathleen Chalfant's GF is Jayne Houdyshell.
- It won't crash or burn. It is selling well.
- Jayne Houdyshell is a working actress not a gf.
THE TRIP TO BOUNTIFUL, let's just say, they need to get it together...Tyson and Rashad carried the show, along with French. It ran a half an hour over schedule...
Gooding and Williams didn't quite click correctly, any gossip on backstage drama?
Next week PIPPIN
- Datalounge is complicit in the misogyny of its posters.
- Any reports on who made their weekly nut this week?
- Kathleen Chalfant who's her gf?
- R249, meet R247.
- R247, what ARE you crabbing on about?
- Nigra, please...
- Was on the 1 train heading downtown this afternoon when I happened to look up from my phone (I was playing a game) and saw Christopher Sieber sitting directly across from me. He looks great! Lost a ton of weight and looking more like he did when he was younger. I got off at 50th Street but he stayed on, so who knows where he was headed, but it was nice to see him.
- Tuck Everlasting, Big Fish, etc.––who the fuck wants to see this faux inspirational crapfests?
- Is it too early to start predicting Tony winners?
Best Musical Revival - PIPPIN
Best Supporting Actress Musical - Andrea Martin, PIPPIN
Best Musical - MATILDA
Best Score for A Musical - Cyndi Lauper, KINKY BOOTS
Best Actor in a Play - Nathan Lane, THE NANCE
- R226 has seen "The Full Monty" one too many times.
- KINKY BOOTS sucks.
Stop the madness.
- Did CINDERELLA petition to be considered a revival as opposed to a new musical? If so, that was a big mistake.
- The Nominating Committee agreed to consider CINDERELLA as a Revival, but will allow DCBeane's new book in the Book of A Musical category (if it gets a nomination).
The four musical revival nominees will be:
PIPPIN, CINDERELLA, ANNIE and DROOD
(too bad for you, JEKYLL & HYDE)
- R255 I beg to differ.
K.L. Gifford, making space on my mantel
- Oh Kathie Lee, your show sucked so bad you'll be lucky if anyone stops to talk to you on the red carpet going into the Tonys - IF you get invited.
- Terry Teachout is a right-wing idiot. His review in WSJ will be meaningless to the business prospects of KINKY BOOTS.
- This week's EW (the one with the "Scandal" cover) gives "Kinky Boots" a B+ and "Lucky Guy" a C+. There's also an article about "Matilda."
TIME has a review of "LG." They liked it more than EW did.
- Any word on Nikoai and the Others? There's only 63 people in it - they don't have that sort of backstage space at the Mitzi. WTF?
- When do Drama Desk and the Village Voice awards come out?
- Here's a question of for old-school Broadway types: why did John Raitt get Carousel over Alfred Drake?
- Because Raitt gave better head, R266. Used his tongue more.
- R84. How is it to be born without any sense of humor at all? You sound like such a fun theater date.
- r84! I'm a terrible theater date, I don't pay, I rarely buy dinner afterwards, I don't put out anymore (I've PAID those dues already!), certainly not for a "Jerry Mitchell musical" (if that's not a contradiction in terms), and I hate everything, yes, because EVERYTHING ON BROADWAY IS GARBAGE!
Okay, I take it back, I LOVED Holland Taylor in ANN. She is sublime. Go see it. Don't go see KINKY BOOTS.
- I meant to address that to r168, not to myself!
- Datalounge keeps censoring me.
I'm a gay white man, not a woman.
Gay men are as appalled by misogyny as women are.
Gay men who do not have their heads up their asses.
- I third the earlier good comments about Pippin - it's really really good. And Matthew James Thomas is adorable.
- But r84 is right about EVERYTHING!
- I am not r84, but seriously, his points about NICE WORK are 100% spot-on.
- I think I meant to post r271 on another thread. Oh, well, anyway, there it is.
- I'd be in any show they offered just so I can get out of the house and away from that horse woman.
- What a tiresome cunt you are, R271.
- r277, I show up once in a blue moon and post 6 things about how I'm sick of Datalounge misogyny. Meanwhile, Datalounge, on a daily basis, posts threads that are aggressively demeaning to women. Who's to be sick of?
- R278 Lemme get you a mirror.
- Fiona Shaw is totally giving a self-indulgent yet very powerful performance. But, then so does Holland and I assume Bette.
- Motown is a really enjoyable time capsule of the era and surprisingly engaging. You really feel you are there and Dick Scanlan has really helped Gordy create a show that will run a good long time.Surprising and unexpected!
- Holland Taylor's performance is not self-indulgent, r280. It is brilliant, disciplined, charming, audacious, daring, smart, fun, and dazzling. Some of the most thrilling stuff I've seen on a NY stage in 40 years.
be gone, you fucking
- r283, stop hating women.
- HIT LIST!
- But Holland is the only one who wrote her own vehicle. Somewhat self-indulgent. And 2 hours long? Really?
- [quote]Surprising and unexpected!
Surprising AND unexpected? Wow. That's quite a combo.
- they ARE different. And yes, quite a combo taken together.I had reason to expect otherwise,and found myself surprised. What's unexpected doesn't always reach the level of surprise.
- love ya
- All that aside, I have heard that MOTOWN works. And that the audience is eating it up.
- The audience will eat Motown last.
- [quote]When do Drama Desk and the Village Voice awards come out?
The Drama Desk Awards are May 19th and the OBIES are the following night, May 20th.
The Drama Desk Awards Nominations are announced in advance, the OBIES have to official "nominations" just winners announced on the 20th.
- Why is no one here talking about Tom Hanks as Best Actor in a Play?
- R294 no one who has seen the play would ever talk about that.
- How do those Drama Desk nominations and Drama League nominations work? Is it like the Tonys where they have a nominating panel that has to see everything?
I mean, it is one thing to see every show on Broadway but every show on and Off Broadway?? You would spend every night in a theatre.
- According to a FB post, Bette still asking for lines - about 7 times during the second preview. Get it together, girl, you're getting paid a fortune. Do your job!
- And that's wrong R297??
Elaine, packing for Michigan with a nip of vodka in the Starbucks.
--Any Number of K-r-a-z-y K-u-n-t-s
- Holland Taylor's work is incredible. Disciplined is the right word for it. And the play barrels right past you - she doesn't take a bath in it, because if she did, you'd lose the jokes and Ann Richards was extremely funny. And, for about 1/2 the play she is on the phone with numerous people and she is so precise and so specific - I've never seen anything quite like it.
The script is based on extensive research and had to pass muster with the family and the many who knew Richards well.
- MOTOWN will be this decade's 'Mamma Mia.' No matter what anyone says, the audiences will just keep coming.
- Bruce Kimmel's CD release of A TIME FOR SINGING is a wonderful edition to collectors cast album libraries.. Thank you Mr. Kimmel for finally getting the rights from Warner Bros. to issue this on CD!
- Isn't here a London MAME that wasn't released because Ginger Rogers' contract demands weren't met? Get on it Kimmel!
- A poster upthread says this about Holland Taylor in ANN:
"And, for about 1/2 the play she is on the phone with numerous people and she is so precise and so specific - I've never seen anything quite like it. "
She's amazing, give her the Tony now. And the Pulitzer! It's not a great play, but there's nothing but shit out there, in any case.
- The Tom Hanks show is awful- lots of screaming. How did this get good reviews????
- it really didn't, r305.
- [quote]How do those Drama Desk nominations and Drama League nominations work? Is it like the Tonys where they have a nominating panel that has to see everything?
The Drama Desk nominating committee (there are about 5 or 6 of them) and they see quite a lot. I've know people who have served on that committee and they see shows almost every night, multiple shows on the weekends. It quickly turns into HELL as most shows are terrible. The rules were changes a few years ago so that a show has to have a minimum number of performances to be considered, therefor knocking out many "showcases".
- "Bruce Kimmel's CD release of A TIME FOR SINGING is a wonderful edition to collectors cast album libraries.. Thank you Mr. Kimmel for finally getting the rights from Warner Bros. to issue this on CD!"
I'm also glad that it's finally on CD. It's too bad, though, that the two most memorable numbers in the score, When the Baby Comes and a Dance number, were never recorded (though there's a live bootleg of them floating around). The rest of the score is pretty forgettable. And, yes, that includes Let Me Love You (the song with the same title by Bart Howard is a classic, however).
- Just out of curiosity I looked online but they don't seem to publish the names of the Drama Desk nominating committee. Is this intentional?
do you know r307?
- The 2012-2013 Drama Desk Nominating Committee is composed of: Barbara Siegel, Chairperson (TalkinBroadway.com and freelance); David Kaufman (author and freelance), Samuel L. Leiter (Distinguished Professor Emeritus of Theatre, Brooklyn College and the Graduate Center), Martha Wade Steketee (urbanexcavations.com; editor and contributor, Chance Magazine), Adrian Wattenmaker (Theater Faculty, Brooklyn College; Director, School of Creative and Performing Arts), and James Wilson (Professor of Theatre, CUNY; co-editor of Journal of American Drama and Theatre).
From the below article...
- Are theatre queens really so desperate to hear Ginger Rogers braying If He Walked Into My Life?
Judy Garland's shaving mug
- Ginger Rogers - now there's someone who belongs on the Nastiest Person on Broadway, RIP edition.
What a hateful bitch she was.
- Will Jenn Collela and Andrea Martin battle it out for featured actress in a musical?
Will Laura Osnes take the lead actress prize (since she deserved it for Bonnie and Clyde anyway?)
- There will be no battle with anyone. It's Andrea Martin's. For sure.
- It's true, R314! Flying old ladies are a shoo-in.
- I doubt it, R313. There are too many good women in the field. Anna Leigh from KINKY BOOTS, the teacher and the mother from MATILDA, Vickie C. and Ann Harada from CINDERELLA, Charlotte or Rachel Bay Jones from PIPPIN, Jessie M. or Chita from DROOD. I doubt Jenn Collela will even get a nomination.
- Hugh O'Brian and Dolores Gray!
- I love you R311.
- Why no love for Janis Paige?
- How does Barbara Siegel get onto the Drama desk committee but not Ann Miner?
And R304 not so fast. Bette is going to be a force to contend with. Bigger name, bigger show.
- R320, Taylor is a pretty big name, and she wrote the show and put the entire thing together. They may want to reward her for that.
Bette has absolutely no blocking to learn, and can't even get her lines down.
- L.A. Times review of "Boots." Bottom line: it needs work.
- Ivy Lynn's gotta win the Tony! She's just gotta!
- Nice Work is terrible, but it's old fashioned and cute and old women love that. All of my mom's friends want to see it.
- Ann lives in Pittsburgh, doesn't she? She could never see the required 9 shows a week every week in NY that the Drama Desk nominators require.
- No way Midler is getting Taylor's award. Midler's performance will in fact demonstrate to all and sundry the difference between a bad solo show and a good one. PS: John Logan is. A. Hack.
- The true embarrassment is not that Midler doesn't know her lines, but that she doesn't know how to cover that fact. And as she's the only person onstage, it's not as if she has to be concerned with cueing other actors. No one in the audience would have any idea she didn't know her lines if she didn't keep yelling for them.
The Tony is Taylor's.
- [quote]L.A. Times review of "Boots." Bottom line: it needs work.
You just might be the only human alive who gives a shit what the LA Times thinks about a Broadway show.
- I think Metcalf might pull it off. More people liked her performance more than the others. But sentimental reason, Tyson may just get the award.
- I haven't seen any comments on Bette's play. What are the chat rooms saying about the play itself?
- Metcalf was very good, but her play wasn't so great - and it closed a while ago after a short run.
- None of you are paying attention.
Holland Taylor is giving one of the great stage performances. Acting students will flock there to study what she's doing. How does she spend half an evening basically yelling into a piece of plastic, and yet convince you not only that there's someone else on the other end of the line, but that it's someone specific, whose voice you can almost hear, whose face you can practically see?
Taylor knows the whole history of each relationship Richards has with each phone voice. In one conversation, she starts out talking to her granddaughter and ends up talking to her daughter, the little girl's mom, and you can tell exactly when the girl gives the phone to the mom, because Taylor's whole affect changes.
She has a specific, real, believable way of answering each call from each caller. She lets you see how she feels about each of her various children, lets you see what each child is like, just in the way she says hello to each of them. And she clearly knows exactly what each caller is saying, knows the exact words.
And it's not that you're hyper-aware of your technique. You are simply aware of watching a woman work in her office and take calls and deal with her day.
There's nothing like it onstage this year, or any other year.
And she wrote the damned thing.
And it's extended to September.
She is so getting the Tony.
- "hyper-aware of her technique," I meant, not "your," oops
- The Taylor shill is working overtime here.
Let's get back to reality:
USA Today: Richards is treated, in other words, much like a sitcom character.
AM NY: As written, "Ann" is so intent on conveying Richards' personality and sharing her anecdotes that it fails to provide a coherent narrative. It is also too sentimental in tone, especially its ending.
NY POST: Sadly, it must have been more involving for the actress to plan and perform the show than it is for the audience to sit through it. “Ann,” which opened on Broadway last night, has plenty of heart, but it lacks drama.
NY DAILY NEWS: an affectionate but uneven bio-drama about the late Texas governor
NY TIMES: Neither a shapely work of drama nor a deeply probing character study.
Let's be clear, I think Taylor is a front-runner for the award, but that fact that no one really likes the play is a hindrance. Amy Morton was in the universally loved "Virginia Woolf" and she should have won for "August: Osage County."
- The Best Actress award will go to Jessica Hecht. Holland Taylor deserves nothing but polite applause.
- I loved Amy Morton's work too, R334, but the reality is the award will most likely go to someone whose show is STILL RUNNING, since most of the Tony voters don't hit town until early May. That sort of kills Morton's and Metcalf's chances - but they will be nominated.
I'm not saying it will go to Taylor - that old lady role in BOUNTIFUL is an award magnet (cf. Gerry Page's Oscar, Lois Smith got EVERY award when she did it at the Signature a few years ago) and Tyson's return to Broadway after 30 years is a big deal - and if she can remember her lines, she's got a leg up on Bette...
- Is Hecht definitly a lead or could she be considered featured?
- Blah blah blah quote reviews, because REVIEWERS KNOW EVERYTHING. (Snort.) (Not.) Midler won't be nominated, everyone is SICK of that stupid BOUNTIFUL abortion, Metcalf's play SUCKED and she didn't write it herself, nobody feels all that bad about Morton not getting a Tony for AUG/ICK (and in any case the yays went to Letts, not to Morton), and: The winner is: Holland Taylor.
- So nice to see that Holland Taylor's agent posts on Datalounge.
- Is Holland an out lesbian?
- r339, why would Holland Taylor's "people" waste their time on you lot of misogynist faggots?
- Really, R339. Are you a Tony voter? If not, Holland's people couldn't care less about you.
- it's the theatre r341!!! "MISOGYNIST FAGGOTS" have ruled it for centuries.
- So why should we waste our time on a mentally unstable theatre queen, R341?
- Could Holland Taylor be Kathleen Chalfant's GF?
- I think the winner will be Holland Tunnel.
- Oh dear! @r345
- Wow. Dolores Gray was so horsey-faced, she makes SJP look like a foal.
- I think there's a difference between playing Vegas and playing Broadway. Plus Bette Midler has never been that great of an actress anyway. I can imagine after 90 minutes her line readings will get quite tiresome - we all know the patterns of her delivery. I'm not sure she can sustain a performance for the length of solo show.
- The real question is Best Actor in a Play. Nathan Nance Lane or Tracy I Have Pulitzer Letts or maybe, just maybe, Tom Hanks.
- I've seen Holland in the play, and she is quite wonderful and will probably win. Laurie was Amy were wonderful, but they're closed. Holland has $$ to make. And the show costs a dollar and a half to produce. I'm amazed someone summarized all the downside of the notices for the script. The Times loved her, the actress and she will be getting the damn thing in June.
On another note, how the Siegels continue to be relevant is a great magic trick. Hucksters, both of them. Mean little hucksters.
- Once again, do not count out Fiona Shaw playing The F@#$%king Virgin Mary.
- And Alec Baldwin will certainly get a nom.
If you've seen Asembled Parties, you'd know Jessica Hecht is clearly Leading Actress not Featured Actress. Whether she will be nominated is anyone's guess.
Judith Light has a great chance of winning Featured.
- Fiona Shaw is the hammiest ham that ever hammed.
- First time entering these theater threads-can someone explain the 'weekly nut' reference?
- Don't rule out Bobby C. in THE BIG KNIFE. Great, controlled performance in an atrociously directed play. And the Featured Actor Tony is Richard Kind's. It is NOT what people expect of him. Will get love letters in the reviews. It's his to loose.
- To loose Lautrec is Groff's new bf. Found him in the, ha ha, Holland Tunnel....
- Someone told me J.Light is so bad in this show she should return her Tony. I can't imagine her being bad, or at least that bad. J. Hecht is a career I have never understood. She is meh in everything I see her in.
- Light is the only reason to see the show. Hecht is - - - Hecht.
- [quote]Hecht is - - - Hecht.
Echt Hecht, if you will.
- The Featured Actress Tony will go to Kristine Nielsen's (Vanya + Sonia + Masha + Spike). She's been doing NY theater (Broadway and Off) for 20+ years, and she brings the house down with her phone call scene.
She does not have the name recognition of the TV/Hollywood types, but sometimes Tony voters love to vote for one of their own who is really giving the best performance of her career.
- Yes - Nielson is BRILLIANT - particularly the phone call.
Funny how two major performances this season are on th ephone.
I have not seen as much of her work as I would have liked and I am now a serious fan of hers.
- r356: I hope your prediction for Kind comes true. He's a much underrated performer and one of the nicest guys in the business.
- The weekly nut is the amount it costs to run a show each week - salaries, rent, advertising, etc. If ticket sales are more than the weekly nut, the show is profitable - for that week. In order for a show to be profitable over all, it must exceed it's weekly nut for enough weeks to cover the initial cost of producing the show. That's how some shows can run a year or more and still lose money for the investors.
- The weekly nut is the single most interesting thing about theater for those of us in the know.
- One of Judith Light's biggest scenes (though admittedly weakest because of the lame writing) in Assembled Parties is also on the phone, so that makes 3 with Holland and Kristine.
Also starring Luise Rainer as Anna Held
- R366 is probably being honest. Which is why I hate theater now. It happened to movies a couple decades ago. Now it's happening to theater.
- I think 366 was posing as dramedy in order to mock dramedy.
I want BCann to win a Tony.
I hope his show doesn't totally suck.
(Alas, it's the Roundabout.)
- And here I thought "weekly nut" meant the latest Broadway actor given a character assassination on DL.
- Melissa McCarthy was at The Flick yesterday. Left at intermission. Her loss.
- The only other thing as important as a show's weekly nut is a batch of my famous Broadway blondies!
- It is much too early to start trying to predict the Tony nominations...
What a waste of time.
Is there not some more interesting gossip....
This b s is like the kids over at that other site.
WHAT HAS HAPPENED??
- Take a look at the current Broadway season, and you tell us what happened, r373.
- OK -Holland Taylor - sizemeat informatia?
- None of you have even mentioned the obvious winner of the 2013 Tony Award?
Alan Cumming for the Scottish play.
[quote]You just might be the only human alive who gives a shit what the LA Times thinks about a Broadway show.
Typical response from a typical insular New York asshole. We should be thankful that Broadway is still being covered by reputable journalistic outlets in other parts of the country.
- Charles McNulty is known as an average critic, and if you've read his reviews, you can tell that he really has no understanding of musicals. He's a play guy.
- HA! Love you R366 and 372!
"There was a time........"
- [quote] the obvious winner of the 2013 Tony Award...Alan Cumming for the Scottish play.
- Jesus Christ, spare me the goddamn blondies. I get the runs just thinking about them.
Bitch tried to kill me.
- Tell me about it Carole! We threw our plate of blondies in the trash.
- Last week's numbers are unbelievable. So many shows over $1 million. And will Hands on the Hardbody post closing? $240,000?
- Is NYDiva a rather squat, matronly woman with reddish hair?
- Does anyone think the Katherine Chalfat girlfriend stuff is funny or clever anymore? It's been dragged out over three threads...
- R385 it is KATHLEEN Chalfant
- thanks, but it's still NOT FUNNY.
- R387 why is it okay to chat about theater lesbians like Cherry Jones and Sarah Paulsen and not Kathleen Chalfant?
- [quote] why is it okay to chat about theater lesbians like Cherry Jones and Sarah Paulsen and not Kathleen Chalfant?
Maybe because Cherry and Sarah are OUT lesbians?
- R389 we also chat about Julie Andrews and Lainie Kazan. Last I heard they were NOT out.
So how come it is okay to chat about those ladies, and Kathleen?
- We don't constantly ask who Julie and Lainie's gfs are, now do we?
It's one thing to chat about Kathleen Chalfant, but quite another to constantly ask the same obnoxious question over and over again.
- The consistently high numbers on Broadway are only more proof that if you give the people what they want, they will come....and will pay top dollar for a lot of it.
- [quote] We don't constantly ask who Lainie's gfs are, now do we?
You must be new here
- r361 Please, that phone call scene in that Durang derk is the most manipulative piece of hokum on any stage today.
- no r392 the high grosses for these god awful musicals is proof that culture is dead and middle class illiterates are running and ruining the theater.
- [quote] You must be new here
No, I've been here since 1999, R393. And I read every Broadway thread yet do not recall incessant posts asking the same question about either Lainie or Julie many times in the same thread, thread after thread.
- We have talked about Lainie and her lesbian posse so many times.
- [quote] We have talked about Lainie and her lesbian posse so many times.
Talking about Lainie and her lesbian posse is far different than posting "Lanie Kazan: Who's he gf?" 50 times per thread.
- Gang, today is Michael Bennett and Fred Ebb's birthday!
Karen Ziemba,former Roxie Hart,Cassie and Rita Racine!
- Making up for lost time.
Lanie Kazan: Who's her gf
- Speaking of Fred Ebb, anyone have any more gossip about him and the Mr Goodbar killer?
- In case anyone was interested in where the expression covering the nut comes from:
Circuses used to travel to towns with the own railroad. When they pulled in to a new town, the mayor used to keep the nut that connected the engine to the rest of the train, and wouldn't give it back until all the expenses were paid for. When the circus paid what was due, they would get their nut back, and move on to the next town. Hence, "cover your nut" has come to mean the total expenses due.
- Can we spell her name right?
It's L-a-i-n-i-e Kazan.
I'm not saying I have feelings about her one way or the other, but the spelling them really bugs me.
- Barbra Streisand or Michele Lee, who was the bigger backstabber towards Lainie Kazan?
- R400: Who's his mother, and why didn't she abort?
- "the spelling THING," I meant to say, Jesus, why can't I do anything right, not, "the spelling THEM."
- Another board is posting that HANDS is closing. Is that true?
- You're an idiot, r404. Michele Lee didn't backstab Lainie. She took a job that was offered to her by Michael Bennett and the producers of Seesaw.
And if she hadn't been so fat - she had promised to lose weight - and knew how to act (at the time), maybe she wouldn't have lost the part at all.
Streisand didn't backstab her either.
And Lainie knows a thing or two about backstabbing herself, let me tell you.
- We predict a "Scandalous" sweep at the Tonys!
10,000 Sweatshop Workers, Preparing Fake Ballots
- R408 Kazan got better reviews than Streisand as Brice. She obviously could act.
Yes, Kazan was very Eve Harrington-ish with alerting the media, but Streisand would pull stunts such as saying she was sick, and then showing up five minutes before showtime suddenly "well".
- Streisand didn't backstab Kazan. Get off it. The fact was, Streisand was very headstrong and know-it-all, and she didn't have a strong sense of how to be a theatre professional. And she was discovering as the run wore on (early on, in fact) how much she loathed performing eight performances a week.
I rather suspect Streisand got called by Ray Stark whenever she called in sick, and he reminded her he had the rights to the movie and she wasn't doing it if he didn't want her to. That's what she wanted more than anything, a Hollywood career, and although Streisand knew it was an idle threat, it was still a strong enough one for her to do the London run after Broadway.
- I've never really understood why it was considered bad behavior for Lainie to have alerted columnists and critics that she would be appearing in Funny Girl.
If it was a threat to Streisand, well, too bad!
Btw, has anyone else seen Michael Urie in Buyer and Cellar? He's adorable as can be but the script is just a silly string of tired cliches. I can only see it appealing to people who don't know very much about Streisand. Or who've never met a young homosexual.
- Buh-bye, Hands on a Harbody
- When did it become fashionable to hate Bette Midler? I'm just curious.
She's a dead ringer for Mengers, and if she's calling out lines, well it hasn't officially opened yet fellas! Gotta give a girl time to learn things.
She's been snubbed for the Oscar several times already. I hope she gets the Tony. She was snubbed for Priscilla.
And her speech will be a scream!
- [quote] The fact was, Streisand was very headstrong and know-it-all, and she didn't have a strong sense of how to be a theatre professional. And she was discovering as the run wore on (early on, in fact) how much she loathed performing eight performances a week.
Funny Girl was the first Broadway show I saw on my first trip to New York. My parents and I saw the show near the end of her run and this 14 y/o kid could tell Streisand was phoning it in. Not so for Channing in Dolly.
- Maybe Melissa McCarthy left The Flick yesterday because she read DL Theater Gossip, which was not kind about The Flick
- r414, Midler is a tedious and surprisingly humorless narcissist, and her speech will NOT be fun.
She has always been epically self-regarding, and deeply humorless about herself.
Two things made her funny back then, to the extent that she was funny (I mean when she was unscripted):
The funny jokes gay men told her, that she knew how to repeat.
- R401 -- huh? What are you talking about? This sounds so interesting.
- Give Bette a break, she was a total bitch when she was on tour doing 100 shows at podunk locations night after night. she's been much better under less tedious circumstances. She's staying put doing this same show 8X a week so she'll be fine.
- Midler's particular brand of self-love is huffy and weirdly Puritanical.
She is not really much fun.
And she's a lousy actor.
- Don't leave us with just that little tidbit r401!!
R402, thanks, that was very interesting!
R416, then it was Melissa McCarthy's loss, I LOVED The Flick.
- Leave Melissa alone- it was her feeding time-that's why she left. Midler's last great acting role was in The Rose-other than that,she sucked in everything else including Beaches. Wait- she was pretty funny in the one with Shelly Long.
- Bette was a hoot on that one Oscar appearance years ago - made you wish the Academy had hired her as a host. She definitely knows how to BE funny. But whoever said she was humorless about herself is absolutely spot on. She's rather a sour person.
Lucille Ball had the same sort of disconnect between her zany, fun-loving public persona and the real Lucille. (Though she wasn't exactly a sour cunt like Midler is)
- Midler mourned for about 20 years when she didn't got the Oscar for The Rose....such odd entitled behavior when she never really even stood a chance at winning.
P.S. Dreyfuss is out of his mind drunk/high in this clip. Was that a big deal in the day? Can you imagine the fuss that would be made if someone was this drunk today?
- Tharah Paulthon ith not a lethbian.
- r423, no reason to call her a "cunt!" Seriously, back off. You can criticize her without demeaning her.
I liked half her Oscar moment when she gave the Best Song prize. She starts funny, but then she comments on herself. It's a thing bad comics do, and self-indulgent actors. She says something blunt and slightly outrageous, and then she pauses and says, "How do you like it so far, kids?" You know? Like she's lost courage in herself at the same time that she's too worried about the audience. "Oh, yeah, I'm the outrageous Bette!" She does that all the time. She did it when she won a Golden Globe and started to do her best Joan Crawford and say, "I'll show *you* a pair of Golden Globes." But she stopped and laughed and blushed and commented on how outrageous she was being. She really has no integrity as a performer. I will say that she knows how to sell a song, all the moreso because she doesn't have much of a voice. But her self-commentary is smug and cowardly at the same time.
- R425, we all know that. Any new gossip on her?
- Truly a face only a mother could love. A blind mother.
- " and if she's calling out lines, well it hasn't officially opened yet fellas! Gotta give a girl time to learn things."
First of all, the time to learn things is called rehearsal, not full-priced performances. And secondly, if you don't know your lines, learn to cover. Don't yell for them in front of the ticket buyers. Completely unprofessional.
- Who is r428? Sarah Paulson?
- Will a female Tony winner's speech include thanks to Audra McDonald for not appearing in an eligible production this year?
- r431, that wasn't even mildly amusing. Try harder.
- I was browsing through some old theater-related news stories and noticed that the Ahmanson was planning to bring the Danny DeVito-Richard Griffiths "Sunshine Boys" production over from London later this year. In the time between the date of the article and now, Mr. Griffiths has left us. Anyone know if they plan to recast?
- Fred Ebb and Goodbar:
[quote] Guest was still not sure Wilson had actually committed the murder until he saw her name in the newspaper article. Fearing he might be charged as an accessory after the fact, Guest's first calls were to his friends Fred Ebb and Gary Greenwood, Ebb's personal assistant. Guest told Ebb and Greenwood that he could not tell them about what had happened on the phone, but it was the worst thing anyone could be involved with. He then stated he was coming to California and hung up. He arrived at Ebb's Bel-Air, Los Angeles, California home the next day; there, he told Ebb and Greenwood about Wilson and the murder. Guest said he had been out with Wilson and had left early because he had to go to work in the morning. He said when he woke up, Wilson had not returned to the apartment, and Guest became worried. Wilson subsequently arrived and confessed the murder to him and Guest gave him money.
[quote] Ebb called Guest's therapist, Hadassah, in New York; she said she would contact an attorney and call him back as soon as possible. Shortly thereafter, she and the attorney called back; the attorney advised Ebb to put Guest on the first plane back to New York City. He also advised Ebb and Greenwood not to say a word about what Guest had told them. In mid-March, Ebb and Greenwood flew to New York City. It took more than two weeks to convince Guest to talk to the police, as Guest agonized over the fact that his information could send his friend Wilson to prison for life or to death row. Guest's lawyer contacted the police and got Guest immunity in exchange for Wilson’s whereabouts.
- So Ebb is the clingy guy who drives Tom Berenger to pick up Diane Keaton to prove his manhood?
- I wonder if Neil Simon is surprised by how rarely his plays are revived, even in his lifetime.
Do you think there will be more in years to come or is he over for good?
It's hard to believe now that most every Broadway season from the mid-1960s through the 1980s had a new hit Simon play that was guaranteed to run at least a year, if not longer.
Elaine Joyce, musing
- I don't think we'll see revivals of any of his works besides the nostalgic memory plays, R436. Maybe one of the theatre company that revives museum pieces for the rest.
- [quote] I wonder if Neil Simon is surprised by how rarely his plays are revived, even in his lifetime.
No, likely because he still rakes it in from every community theatre in the country still doing them.
- Community theatres don't do them anymore also. Like most writing, it was simply of its time, and gone.
- Uh, we have had three community theater performances of Neil Simon plays withing the last year, including Rumors, which just closed. and of course Sweet Charity is performed all the time.
- After Cromer's failed revivals of Simon's critically acclaimed work, why would anyone bother reviving more of his plays?
Jeff Goldblum did Prisoner of Second Avenue a few years ago in the West End. Total bomb.
- In fairness to Melissa McCarthy, the after hosting SNL probably wasn't the best time to go to a matinee of The Flick. She gets points for trying to see the final performance.
- The producers should replace Richard Griffiths with Christopher Lloyd. He's fucking perfect for the role of Al Lewis.
- One of the wall street douches in this scandal (cheating brokers out of commission) is Jon Terracciano, Lynn Meadow's son
- actually, sorry, its the other wall street douche in the story
- "Motown" sounds like "Oba Oba North."
- I was reading a review of "Lucky Guy" wherein it said that the character that Tom Hanks is playing died at 41. Tom Hanks is 56!
- The Mambo Kings Starring Ricky Martin and Esai Morales
What went wrong? It didn't even make it to Broadway.
- Keep getting offered comps to TESTAMENT OF MARY and can't bring myself to sit though what looks like a pretentious hokum.
- Fiona Shaw bares her breasts in the play. Ain't nobody got time for that!!
- The Actor's Fund hoping to develop micro apartments
and Jan Maxwell will live in all of THEM!!!!!
- TESTAMENT OF MARY is serious theatre, in other words, utter horseshit.
- Fiona Shaw=ham
The Black Dahlia has to be the worst performance in the history of film.
- Charlie Sutton - broadway's hottest guy AND girl
- r441, Cromer's revival of BRIGHTON BEACH MEMOIRS may have failed financially, but not artistically. And listen, I loathe Neil Simon, but Cromer's production was against-all-expectations completely sublime and surprisingly moving in the last minute. And it had some swell actors giving terrific performances: Laurie Metcalf playing a Jewish mother convincingly, imagine that; Jessica Hecht being touching rather than twitchy; Dennis Bousikaris gave his best-ever performance; and it was the first time I ever saw Santino Fontana, and he was great, just charming and sweet and earnest enough without being cloying. Noah Robbins as the Simon character was better than the young Matthew Broderick would've been, I bet.
Cromer knows how to stage dinner scenes! This was true in the otherwise not-very-good TRIBES. Maybe it's a Chicago thing: the only fun part of AUG/ICK was the dinner table scene. Those Chicago types seem very excited by claustrophobic family dinners! Well, and breakfast, maybe, too, given the amazing breakfast scene in Cromer's OUR TOWN.
Family meals, anyway.
Just because show closed early doesn't mean it was a failure. I'd say rather than a lot of financially successful Bway shows are utter failures, because they are unwatchably stupid.
- Charlie Sutton has a huge cock.
It's so tasty, too!
- [quote]was better than the young Matthew Broderick would've been, I bet.
how could you tell that without seeing it? MB was quite Dazzling in his youth...no matter what you think of him now.
- [quote]I was reading a review of "Lucky Guy" wherein it said that the character that Tom Hanks is playing died at 41. Tom Hanks is 56!
Honey, he's an actor, he acts 41.
- Ugh, he's so hard to watch, now.
- And by the way, I said, "I bet," which implies, it seems to me, that I don't actually know.
- The real guy was a harsh 41 too. I was kind of shocked too read that is how old he was when he died.
I don't think he moisturized and plus the tabloid journalist life can be very rough.
- Hanks is only doing the play because Nora asked him to - ON HER DEATHBED. Once his contract is up in June, he's outta here, and there will be no replacement. The casts' contracts all expire end of June, no extension clauses.
Everyone in the show knows the play isn't great theater - it's no DEATH OF A SALESMAN - but between Wolfe and the Ephron legacy and Hanks, it's a once-in-a-lifetime experience for the company.
Not so much for the audience.
- [quote]Charlie Sutton - broadway's hottest guy AND girl
What makes you say that?
- [quote]Hanks is only doing the play because Nora asked him to - ON HER DEATHBED
I thought she didn't tell anyone she was dying? Probably for the best. I don't like to emote unless there is a nomination to be had.
- R455- I also saw Brighton Beach Memoirs and loved it, especially Santino's performances. When they announced that the second play (Broadway Bound, ironically) would not happen. I felt so bad for the kid who was going to play Eugene in that. He never got to play a single performance.
But that's besides the point. The question was why aren't there more Neil Simon revivals and the answer is because BBM was a failure at the box office.
- Wasn't Odd Couple a success? Of course, that was probably only because of Nathan Lane and Matthew Broderick.
I think all of those early Simon plays are just archaic - not funny at all.
- Yes, you're right, ODD COUPLE was a huge success that I believe sold out before rehearsals began. It got mixed to negative reviews though. No Tony nominations for Matthew or Nathan.
- Neil Simon telling Mary Tyler Moore to "learn your lines or get out of my play" really ended his NY career didn't it?
How could he have done that to our Mary?
- Neil Simon's good for acting classes, because his plays have all those props. Good way to learn to make drinks and want things at the same time.
- There was a flop revival of Barefoot in The Park a few years ago too. Patrick Wilson was good and perfect for the role but Amanda Peete was manic ("medication" problems were rumored) and Jill Clayburgh really was low energy and non-comedic as the mother. The mother can bring the house down when done right....but Clayburgh seemed to just be interested in modeling the furs. Where the hell was Linda Lavin when they needed her?
- Christina Applegate would have done better to skip Sweet Charity and do Barefoot in the Park.
- Just saw the new commercial for KINKY BOOTS. It's gonna sell a lot of tickets to the Logo crowd, I guess, but it'll be a HUGE turn off to everyone else. They would have been better off going the BOOK OF MORMON route and not shown a frame of actual footage.
It'll be PRISCILLA all over again, only on a smaller scale. Smaller break-even, lesser known film, etc.
I don't care how loud the audiences are. This time next year, we'll have another musical in the Hirschfeld to bitch about.
- Truth, R428. In about ten years, he could play a very convincing DICK TRACY villain.
- Another opinion: I saw Brighton Beach Memoirs in previews and found it all highly mediocre...script, direction and acting.
Is Jessica Hecht the new Sandy Dennis?
- [quote] the Ephron legacy
I'm sorry, the WHAT?
- What Simon's relative disappearance says most about is the way theater has changed drastically over the years. Once it was vibrant enough to have competent work such as his make a ton of money while not being exactly groundbreaking. Now a straight play can barely stay open longer than a month unless it's got a Hollywood star in it. Simon was easy theater for middlebrow audiences, but Broadway had space for it to thrive in. Now it's got little room for anything but lowest common denominator musicals and revivals of a handful of classic plays some celebrities want to "prove" themselves in.
- R455, I meant financially, of course, of what are considered to be Simon's acclaimed works.
- DL fav and Worst Person on Broadway nominee Daniel Davis back on the boards tonight!
Dance of Death, indeed!
- [quote]Jill Clayburgh really was low energy and non-comedic as the mother. The mother can bring the house down when done right....but Clayburgh seemed to just be interested in modeling the furs
Yeah, Chronic Lymphocytic Leukemia will do that to a person. Shame in her for wanting to work.
- r474, so what you found it mediocre? You wanna give examples? Back up your claim?
Seems to me Cromer's direction is always about giving his actors time to discover their relationships to each other, to write believable back stories for themselves, to figure out how they interact in an ordinary way on an average day.
I'm remembering dinner table scenes in TRIBES - a failure of a play - where it was clear that these people had eaten dinner together thousands of times. The way they sat together, who ignored whom, who touch whom in a particular way: there was a sense of intimacy and familiarity from which the drama organically grew.
The same was true of BRIGHTON BEACH MEMOIRS.
And Laurie Metcalf, who is as unJewish as a girl could be, nonetheless wasn't giving one of those bad goy-mimics-Jew performances like the kind Meryl Streep delivers whenever she is asked to play a Jewish character. Metcalf went for the character's coldness, slight stand-off-ish-ness, and you could sense that she had learned her character from the inside-out, instead of imposing ideas on her from the outside, commenting on her character.
- [quote]chronic lymphocytic leukemia)
Where on the ticket does it say you are guaranteed a work of art? People are coming to see a big movie star. Actors and crews are working, no one is coming out feeling cheated.
- Whoever said Lauper's nice - I don't think she comes across that way. She seems like an egomaniac bitch. Cannot survive without some kind of attention, she's overexposed as a result and has lost some fans. I know after her dreadful "Memphis Blues" tour, she lost me.
- KINKY BOOTS deserves to fail.
Sadly, it is no worse than most Bway musicals these days.
- Is she really overexposed, r482? I would think that Cyndi Lauper hasn't even crossed most people's minds since the '80s (except for the occasional instances of hearing "Girls Just Wanna Have Fun" played).
- r478, exciting news about Daniel Davis and in the role recently played by other DL fave Ian McKellen on Broadway with DL co-fave Helen Mirren and the relentlessly discussed triad of hate between Mirren, McKellen and David Strathairn.
- poor Laila Robbins.
- r484, re Cyndi being overexposed - she was on the Trump reality show, she had a Lotto t.v. ad in the NYC region airing constantly, she has a book out, she has a reality t.v. series of her own, she did a tour recently, she's got Kinky Boots, yeah...
- The music for KINKY BOOTS is not unpleasant.
That's the best thing you can say about it.
- Prepare for KINKY to be a surprise winner at The Tonys. After all the hype, MATILDA is a disappointment, and Kinky is actually well crafted and written. Matilda is bad Brit musical theatre with some of that god awful Brit music hall shit thrown in.
- r489, what's your standard for "well crafted and well written?" Your eighth grade play?
The last thing you could call KINKY BOOTS is "well written."
They should take Fierstein's Tonys AWAY, rather than give the dude a new one.
I think you're right, though, I think it'll win Best Musical. Not because it's good.
- “A Gentleman’s Guide to Love and Murder” will sweep the 2014 Tonys! Jefferson Mays will win best actor in a musical and Lisa O’Hare will win best featured actress in a musical. It’s new, it’s fresh, it’s not a rehashed redo or junk-box musical – it’s what Broadway should be all about!! Saw it last weekend at the Old Globe in San Diego. Not a shill, just sayin’.
- My guess is Matilda for Best Musical, Lauper for best score.
- I wish Daniel Davis was in Kinky Boots.
- Lauper Best Score totally.
My fear is that Billy Porter will get Best Actor in a Musical.
- There is a rumor that Cherry Jones might play Lady Macbeth during "Shakespeare in the Park" season.
- [quote]There is a rumor that Cherry Jones might play Lady Macbeth during "Shakespeare in the Park" season.
In which show? COMEDY OF ERRORS or LOVE'S LABOUR'S LOST?
- Matilda is really tedious at times. I wanted to shoot myself during that Mom dancing number, and that stupid bit that opened Act two. Also hated all the fantasy sequences. Loved the swings...
- When did Patrick Healy completely succumb to the theatre owners? He prints all their propaganda in The Times, and is the lapdog of the press agents. His online Bette Midler interview is a joke.
- Kinky Boots will win the Tony for Best Musical. Don't underestimate how beloved Harvey is with the Tony crowd. Recall, when they wanted to give him a newly created award for replacing Alfred Molina. I also think Anna whatever her face will win Best Supporting Actress and Billy Porter will win Best Actor. No nomination for Stark Stands.
The other nominations will be Matlida, Motown and Hardbody.
Fiona Shaw in Testament of Mary is just pretentious uppity theatre bullshit. It will get raves, but it's tedious and unnecessarily controversial. After 90 minutes, it just feels like what's the point. She'll probably get a Tony.
The last Brighton Beach was very good, it's failure isn't Cromer's fault, but the very different nature of Broadway audiences.
- R494, I hear you re: Billy Porter.
When I saw the show early in previews, his voice was in complete tatters. Not laryngitis, but irreversible vocal damage, like Liza has now.
Yet when I point that out to friends who love the show, they say something in the ballpark of "Oh Yeah, he can't sing anymore, but he's 'fierce'!"
Or "I know, but it was such a 'brave performance'.
It's like Brantley's review of Melanie Griffith: She totally sucks, and I LOVE it!!!!
- Has anyone mentioned that Richard Masur is in "Lucky Guy"? Hold me, David!
- "Anna whatserface" will NOT beat out Andrea Martin. She's this year's Anita Morris and Jane Krakowski.
Flying trumps all.
- I'd pay good money to see Cherry Jones playing Lady M in "Love's Labour's Lost". A few rewrites may be needed, of course...
- Hey know-it-all at r502 - Anita Morris LOST, cunt!
- Fuck you all!! Get off your asses and go see MY husband in his show.......
BEFORE THE FUCKER CLOSES!!!!
Jen "Cuddles" Cody
- r491: I only know it from the demo when it was still KIND HEARTS & CORONETS.
Steve Lutvak's score is very, very good with droll and witty lyrics. My only quibble that may be seen as a touch 'precious'.
- Let's not cast shade on Annaleigh Ashford. To the extent that KINKY BOOTS has any life at all, it's because of Ashford's performance. Of course, her character makes no sense, but that's not her fault. If you ask me, she's there only in order to reassure the audience that the Stark Sands character isn't gay.
And while we're on that topic: Why don't they give the Billy Porter character any sort of romantic life or even impulse? He is the totally neutered drag queen. His only desire is to make friends with his dad. To be loved by Dad, that's it. And I say, Fuck dad. I don't mean literally!
It's so pandering-to-middlebrow audiences to suggest that the only thing an outcast drag queen wants is Daddy's love. Ugh, it reassures us that Big Queens aren't sexual, just rejected, and what they want isn't an orgasm, but a hug. You know, "and fabulous boots!," ha ha ha. (Such a tired old joke.)
I can't believe how retrograde and profoundly homophobic and sex-phobic KINKY BOOTS is. I don't think Fierstein knows that his homo-politics are in fact a version of homo-bashing. He needs to enter the 21st century. Or the end of the 20th, even!
- I was sad to learn that Melissa Errico is not returning to finish the run of PASSION. But you really have to take care of yourself.
I cannot believe that I saw her final performance on March 20th. I spoke with her after the show and she seemed fine. What she thought was a chest cold and would be out the rest of the week, developed into something more serious. And one must take care of yourself.
- Is Annaleigh Ashford sporting a real tattoo on her forearm or it a fake one for the show?
- Yes Happy Birthday, should be a national holiday. Marilyn is a gift to us all. Her talent amazing and not only a great performer, but a wonderful person, caring and everything else. I am honored to be her friend!!
THEY DON'T COME ANY NICER. HAPPY BIRTHAY,!!
- [quote] "Anna whatserface" will NOT beat out Andrea Martin.
Yes she will. Sorry, but you're wrong. The Tonys love to give out featured awards to up and coming actresses. In the past twenty years there have been maybe three that were over 45 when they won?
- I think A Christmas Story will get a nomination over Hardbody.
- Ashford really is delightful in KINKY BOOTS. Though I must say, at the performance I saw - a Wed night preview shortly before the opening - all the leads were straining vocally. Billy Porter in particular has been written a punishing part, they just make him do one screecher after the other. Where's Jule Styne to teach people how to write for divas? Doesn't your diva need an occasional patter song to rest her vocal cords between big numbers?
- Hope you're right, r511, since I know Anna Whatserface. But I fear you're wrong. Martin is beloved in these parts.
- What (R511) said!!
No oldies in the last 10 years!!
- In answer to r511's question, there have been at least six winners of the Best Featured Actress in a Musical award in the past twenty years who were over 45 (Andrea Martin, Lillias White, Harriet Harris, Beth Leavel, Mary Louise Wilson, Judy Kaye). I can't find a birth year for Ann Duquesnay so I have no idea how old she was the year she won.
I haven't seen either KINKY BOOTS or PIPPIN, but I don't get the sense that Ashford is making as strong an impact on people as Martin is.
- The score to Gentlemen's Guide is 100% mediocre.
- MikeR, who cares what kind of "sense" you get? Gossip, gossip, hearsay. Maybe you should see the shows before you bestow your orotund proclamations upon us.
- How amny more ATC posts does one have to read referencing Andrea Martin's STANDING OVATION AFTER HER NUMBER to believe she's winning that Tony?
- 517 = Stephen Schwartz
- r479....according to Frank Langella's book Clayburgh was always low energy...He describes her as lacking the powers of an alert seductive panther who prowls the stage (or something like that.) He said that's what it takes to be a great stage actress. He said Jill was better in the realistic world of film....and I'm sorry she had cancer but if you are gonna do a classic Bway comedy in the role that gets most of the laughes....you better deliver at least a few or else audiences will go home unhappy
- I hope Cyndi wins the Tony. They didn't even nominate her for Threepenny Opera a few years back.
- There's no way Andrea Martin doesn't win. If there's one award in the bag this year, it's that one.
And anyone who prefers KINKY BOOTS over MATILDA is just jaw-droppingly provincial. MATILDA, whatever its faults, is a crazily original. KINKY BOOTS is a xerox of a xerox of xerox.
- Psssst the Tony for Andrea Martin Best Featured Actress In A Musical "PIPPIN" was already been engraved. Give it up. As much a shoo in as Daniel Day Lewis & Anne Hathaway were. Annaleigh Alberghetti or whatever her name is should just stay home and watch from the couch.
- Andrea Martin by the way already has a Tony, for MY FAVORITE YEAR; including MFY, she has 4 nominations for Featured Actress, musical: CANDIDE (97); OKLAHOMA! (02); YOUNG FRANKENSTEIN (08).
- Bitch, please. Berthe always gets standing ovations but there is a price to pay! Remember what happened to me!
- [quote]How amny more ATC posts does one have to read referencing Andrea Martin's STANDING OVATION AFTER HER NUMBER to believe she's winning that Tony?
I'm sorry I don't seriously reply to people who cite All That Can't as a source.
- What is Andrea Martin's weekly nut?
- I still can't dance peoples!
Karen Olivo, TONY WINNER on second shift at Cosco@ New Jersey
- Two friends in the biz saw MATILDA and said the British accents were hard to understand. Put a damper on the show for them. Anyone else with similar complaints?
- Your friends have bad ears, no one else had similar complaints.
- Annaleigh might have a better shot at the Tony if her big Act I number ended with an applause button, instead of just petering out and into the next scene.
Jerry Mitchell - good choreographer, no sense of structure of a musical.
Andrea's got it in the bag.
- I thought the accents were off, but not too bad. I had more troubles with the kids voices. the sound balance made them even tinnier.
- Annabelle was really great in Wicked. Surprised she hasn't had a nose job.
- But does Annaleigh have one of those trashy tats on her arm? Is that real?
- r455, I stopped reading what looked like a long-winded dissertation at "I loathe Neil Simon" - get a grip, sweetheart. He's a brilliant comic writer and in his day - brilliant - and with the right directors (not Scott Elliot!) hose plays can fly!
- Yes r499, the nature of today's theater audiences - fat boors with no taste!
- [quote]In answer to [R511]'s question, there have been at least six winners of the Best Featured Actress in a Musical award in the past twenty years who were over 45
Whew! I guess it's a good thing I was in the LEAD ACTRESS category.
- So Jill Clayburgh, who I alwasy thought was overrated, was sick. Then she shouldn't have been doing the damn play if she was that low energy. Do we allow pilots to fly planes if they can't perform to the best of their abilities? Do we allow surgeins to operate? Simply because they still want to? You have to be able to deliver the goods on Broadway or get off the stage.
PAYING AUDIENCE MEMBER
- [quote]Do we allow surgeins to operate?
Do we allow people who can't spell to post here?
- A Gentleman’s Guide to Love and Murder got rave reviews in San Diego.
It's going to be a big hit in NYC.
And it's the answer to "what happened to Kevin Ligon after he was fired from Phantom?" !
- I can't even imagine how good a KIND HEARTS AND CORONETS musical with Jefferson Mays, by no-name writers, would have to be to be "a big hit in NYC".... it'd have to be like MY FAIR LADY-level good...
- Will Jefferson wear his fedora in the show?
Hair Club for Men
- GENTLEMAN'S GUIDE will be a PRODUCERS-level kind of smash. Mark my words. It is a brilliant and hilarious show with one of the best scores in years. Jefferson Mays has a second Tony in the bag. As does Steven Lutvak, the "no name" composer.
- "Matilda is bad Brit musical theatre with some of that god awful Brit music hall shit thrown in."
That's true, but it has moments of brilliance that far outshines all of Kinky Bots together.
"It’s new, it’s fresh, it’s not a rehashed redo or junk-box musical – it’s what Broadway should be all about!!"
"It is a brilliant and hilarious show with one of the best scores in years"
Oh, please. The score is pleasant, no more, no less, and the lyrics get the job done. State-of-the-art Broadway!
- I'd see MATILDA before I'd see KINKY BOOTS.
- "Jerry Mitchell - good choreographer, no sense of structure of a musical."
Half of this statement is true - the second half.
- A Gentleman’s Guide to Love and Murder reminds me of the pleasant but forgettable off-Broadway musicals from the 1980s such as Charlotte Sweet. It belongs off-Broadway.
- I haven't seen Kinky Boots but I'll bet I'd like it. I saw Priscilla during the same week when I saw Jerusalem, Normal Heart, MFer with the Hat and Good People.
Priscilla was the weak link for content and staying power but damn - that was a fun night at the theater.
There's room for all kinds of shows. Sometimes it's good to just go out and have fun. Are there any gays on here who liked Kinky Boots?
Oh, and Cyndi was awesome during her 'Memphis Blues' tour. Her warm up was Dr. John and she came on to join him for his last song. She was wonderful. She loves to perform and I love to watch her perform. And who else could have rocked that bustier at 3Penny?
- I think it'll be Richard Nelson's SORRY for the Pulitzer. He's due.
- The new title is Tuck Neverlasting.
- r549, KINKY BOOTS sets the gay thing back a couple decades. It's about cutesy-quaintsy queers who have no discernible sexuality, and it promises the audience that homos are harmless sad glitter queens who want to be loved by all the mean straight guys who called them a faggot in high school.
Harvey Fierstein should be ashamed.
- If Cyndi wins the Tony, she only needs an Oscar to be EGOT
- What does she have an Emmy for?
- a guest starring role on Mad About You r554
- Charlotte Sweet! Haven't thought about that show in AGES. Was much better than average, but yes, OFF Broadway where it belonged (and that's not a BAD THING!)
- I got my ticket to VIOLET starring Sutton Foster, even though she is totally wrong for the part.
- I don't understand why Tuck Everlasting was being considered for Broadway in the first place. Did you see/hear The Burnt Part Boys, written by the TE team? One of the lamest endings of any show I have ever seen, with another unmemorable score. It begs the question yet again: how did writers with no critical or commercial track record get this close to Broadway?
- "I got my ticket to VIOLET..."
How visionary of Artistic Director Tesori to include her own show in the first Encores' Off-Broadway season!
- what are you talking about r485? I saw Helen Mirren and Ian McKellen together at a charity thing in London and they looked very chummy.
I don't think they hate each other. But maybe your post mean they both hated David Strathairn? or he hated them?
- well they are world class actors r560, they might have been PRETENDING to get along.
I don't know the truth of course, but I do recall the hatred between these three being discussed in detail on the Nastiest Person on Broadway threads.
Which I think can be found by googling "nastiest person on broadway" there are two delish threads that cover this and many other gems.
- Speaking of Simon, I think one of the reasons his plays are not as popular for revivals as you might have predicted 30 years ago has to do with the fact that most of them are about middle aged people.
In the 60's and 70's and into the 80's middle aged, middle class tri-staters went to the theate to see their lives reflected. Simon did that and made them witty and sympathetic.
Today middle aged people want to pretend they are 20 and don't want to be reminded. All those jokes about aging and constipation and
- The average Broadway theater-goer is a 65-year-old white woman, I read that somewhere.
Neil Simon's audience, in other words.
Mystifying to me that the recent BRIGHTON BEACH MEMOIRS got so-so reviews. It was great.
- [quote] I think it'll be Richard Nelson's SORRY for the Pulitzer. He's due.
While I could see it happening, it wasn't the best of the Apple family shows so far. I'd say the first was the best, followed by Sorry followed by the boring second one.
- [quote]A Gentleman’s Guide to Love and Murder reminds me of the pleasant but forgettable off-Broadway musicals from the 1980s such as Charlotte Sweet. It belongs off-Broadway.
Why does it remind you of those shows, r548? You haven't seen it, heard the demo or read it, so how are you making that allusion?
- Why do you assume I have not seen it? You are aware that it has been produced at The Hartford Stage as well as the Old Globe? Also, there are many, many promo videos on Youtube if anyone cares to check the musical out. If you saw Charlotte Sweet, you would know that my comment is spot on.
- "Promises, Promises" did okay in its last revival. That's a Neil Simon book (adapted, yeah, but more Simonesque than Wilder and I.A.L. Diamondesque.)
"The Gingerbread Lady"?
- Mystifying why the Brighton revival got so-so (actually bad) reviews? It was beyond leaden. Jokes sat there without any laughs. And the dinner scene? Cromer DOESN'T know how to stage a dinner scene- half the backs of the performers were to the audience (compare this to the wonderfully staged dinner scene of August Osage, where you saw everyones interactions)...
- So is the end of BAA/Beth Williams as a producer? The other board is claiming "Tuck Everlasting" is dead, probably because of the losses on "Hands on the Hardbody." Looking at her track record (Sweet Smell of Suckssess, On a Queer Day...) its surprising she's lasted this long.
- Will Brantley cum all over MATIlDA on Broadway, like he did in London?
- I saw GENTLEMAN'S GUIDE in Hartford. It's better than CHARLOTTE SWEET, but a PRODUCERS-sized hit, it is most assuredly not. It's smart and clever and catnip to the emotion-adverse Charles Isherwood. But it has little to bring to the commercial table. No brand, very little heart or payoff.
Don't get me wrong, I'd be happy for it to come in. But it ain't gonna do that well.
- Perhaps they'd be better trying for the West End under the original movie title. The Ladykillers has done pretty well.
- When did Center Theatre Group (Ahmanson, Mark Taper, Kirk Douglas in LA) become the Negro Theatre Ensemble? I just got an e-mail from them announcing their upcoming plays:
1. Joe Turner's Come and Gone (Phylicia directs, with Lilias White and Keith David)
2. Fela!, with Michelle Williams (the Destiny's Child one, obv.)
3. The Royale, with Robert Gossett
4. The Scottsboro Boys
Isn't this a little strange? (Note that these were the ONLY plays listed in the e-mail.)
- So are these rumors about Tuck Everlasting true? Is it really cancelled? I can't imagine Casey letting it go.
- Bring "Last Dance" the Paul Jabara musical to B-way! Or an all-star "Boys in the Band"
- Would r573 have seen fit to post something about any of the many many seasons of all-white productions?
- r573 is a jackass.
- 571, I am glad for it to come in as well, but I don't see it having a life on Broadway. I think it would have done better off-Broadway (and I happen to have liked Charlotte Sweet, by the way). It doesn't have a name, it doesn't really have a gimmick as Drood does, and it does not have a name in the creative team as Mormon and Kinky do. Unless Mays gets Charles-Ludlam-in-Irma-Vepp rave revues for playing all of the "family" roles, I don't see it getting an audience. Also, I don't know if a theater has been announced, but it is the sort of show that could be swallowed up by a Broadway theater.
On the other hand 39 Steps ran for two years (granted in three different theaters), so...
Now, what were the other Penny Dreadful plays from the 1980s.
- R576 R577
Demographics of L.A. County:
Non-Hispanic White: 27.7%
So where are all the Hispanic and Asian plays?
- So, "Tuck" is dead. What will they do with "Little Miss Sunshine"?
- [quote]So where are all the Hispanic and Asian plays?
They're coming the next couple of seasons, so start ironing your sheet now.
- Speaking of those YouTube vids of GENTLEMAN'S GUIDE...what's the deal with that Ken Barnett? He looks scrumptious.
- I don't think we can really call PROMISES PROMISES a Neil Simon play!
By the way, speaking of DREADFUL revivals. . .
The horror, the horror.
And was I alone in not knowing what the big deal was about Katie Finneran?
First time I have ever not enjoyed Tony Goldwyn, by the way.
And both leads were at least 15 years too old!
A Rob Ashord musical, aka an oxymoron.
- [quote] So where are all the Hispanic and Asian plays?
We had a revival of FLOWER DRUM SONG a few years back.
And don't forget that ZOOT SUIT show.
- Speaking of TUCK EVERLASTING, who is fucking Andrew Keenan-Bolger these days?
- I'm writing a new musical for Stark Sands called MAMA I WANT TO PING!
- wow, Chad Beguelin HATES John Buzzetti!
- I'm guessing they decided a show called (a) "The Ladykillers" might offend American women, (b) might remind them of the 2004 Tom Hanks film remake, which didn't do all that well.
- Wow! Thread which was started April 2nd is almost done.....
- Just talked to a Tuck insider. Don't believe the theatre not available crap. The Marquis is in the Fall, as is The St. James. They couldn't come up with the money after all their losses on "Hands..."
- Matilda is dreck. But it's Brit dreck, so of COURSE Brantley will come all over it. But it's not going to do the same kind of biz here that it did in London.
- Scored a freebee to Matilda last night....what is all the fuss about? The music is really lousy and I am one of those who also could not understand a lot because of the accents. Some great visuals and lighting. Bertie is very good- the best thing in the show. And the number on the swings was good because it is actually a tune. The audience of tourists loved it. Glad I did not have to pay. Why do they need 4 girls for the part of Matilda- the role is not Evita for God's sake.
- [quote]wow, Chad Beguelin HATES John Buzzetti!
- Phylicia Rashad must be a cool director. I auditioned for her once and it was just like Diane Wiest's character in Bullets Over Broadway.
She explained the scene and what she wanted with her arms flying around and spoke all dramatically like Tallula Bankhead or some old movie. I almost wanted to say you are fabulous I love you.
- I'm madly in love with R475.
- R479, I think I love you.
- r593 I also love Ms. Rashad. She is truly theatrical, and a wonderful person to work with - extremely smart.
- Michael McKean, Jefferson Mays and Dakin Mathews are doing a theatrical version of "Yes, Prime Minister" at the Geffen in June.
- Article (not a review) about "Motown: the Musical" from the LA Times.
- [quote] I'm guessing they decided a show called (a) "The Ladykillers" might offend American women, (b) might remind them of the 2004 Tom Hanks film remake, which didn't do all that well.
The musical in question (Gentleman's Guide...) is a musical version of Kind Hearts and Coronets, not The Ladykillers.
- [quote]Just talked to a Tuck insider. Don't believe the theatre not available crap.