I seriously hate everything about the god-forsaken place. Its crappy American-wannabe stores, its garage sale-like "businesses". Do you ever wish you were not here.
Canadian men are known to possess impressively virile bulges.
Quite the opposite. I am thankful everyday that I don't live in a country that celebrates and rewards mediocrity like the globally despised u.s.
garage sale-like "businesses"
what does that mean?
Is Canada lame or what?
R3 i.e. most Canadian "businesses" are more likely graveyards than businesses since so few people frequent them. And garage sale describes how run-down most Canadian businesses look. This country is real shit.
No, not once, never in my life. I travel around the world and am always happy and grateful that I get to live here.
No. Would I prefer to live in the countryside of Italy or Spain, or somewhere in the South pacific? Sure. I lived in the States for a number of years and, in spite of a good job, couldn't wait to move back. The only bad thing about Canadian businesses is how overpriced most goods and services are.
Someone did mention that Canada is overpriced...is it because they provide their workers with a living wage?
It's not necessarily that, R10, we pay much more in taxes, both sales and income, so that should cover living wages, universal health care, etc. A lot of prices are still based on the assumption that the US Dollar is worth more than the Canadian one, even by 30% or so, which hasn't been the case in years. Most Canadians are too sheepish as consumers to raise a stink about it but, in the last few years, my partner and I have started telling salespeople that if they are going to charge us that much for an electronics item or a new mattress, we are just going to drive over to Buffalo and buy it there since it would cost less even with customs duties included. You'd be surprised how quickly they change the tune and discounts appear out of thin air. It's just that the stores are counting on people paying whatever the price tag is without doing any comparison to the prices of same items in the States.
I wouldn't live there if you offered me free rent. I like sunshine, and warm beaches.
you can have them
This Canadian would rather live in Canada, where EQUAL marriage has been on the books for close to a decade, where we have universal health care - meaning you don't go broke if you get sick or refused treatment because you don't have insurance, it's not a jailable offence to have weed in your pocket, getting shot at by some idiot with an AK47 and any number of problems that the good ol' US of A has.
Is it perfect? No. Compared to the USA? Its pretty damn good.
OP which province do you live in?
I don't hate it, but recently I have become impatient with it. Canadians can be openly miserly, cheap with waitstaff etc, which is evidence of a provincialism they seem desperate to cover, and fail at every time. Toronto especially has an inferiority complex that is truly crippling. The PCness of Canadian culture, while well-intentioned, coexists with a censorious, controlling politesse that can be really tedious. I liked it better when it was a bit of a hinterland. Now that media has gone global, that dorky backwoods charm is gone. As a result, there is no charm.
Totally agree, OP. I hate it, the whole country. Would love to get out of here.
It's not North Korea, r17. You're free to go anytime. That is if you can find somewhere to accept your whiny bitch ass.
Wrong, we are not in Europe where they can live in work in different countries.
The point remains. So get the fuck out, ingrate.
What R18 said.
Canada is a dull boring place. I lived there for 5 years and am so happy to be out of there. I can't imagine I will ever set foot in the place again.
And don't get me started on the weather.
The taxes are extremely high.
The cost of housing is outrageous. Canada has one of the most inflated housing markets in the world.
Infrastructure (roads, public facilities) is subpar compared to the States.
As a previous poster mentioned, the PC politesse can be stifling.
The cost of consumer goods is much higher than in the States despite parity with the US dollar.
As a Canadian, I would definitely consider relocating to a northern blue state like Minnesota, Wisconsin, Maine, Washington, etc. if I could get a similar paying job.
I have lived in different places all over Canada. I preferd mostly the small towns that I lived in.
I lived in Toronto for sometime and I hate how thh city tries so hard to be American like. And also about 90% of Canadians are fake. Forget that "politeness" thing, it's all fake. Trust!
"The cost of housing is outrageous. Canada has one of the most inflated housing markets in the world."
This is true.
"And also about 90% of Canadians are fake"
This is true, too. It's really hard if you are one of the 10% that is not fake.
Canadian MTV personality says she interviewed Ryan Reynolds and apparently he wasn't proud to be Canadian and was dismissive of Canada.
[quote]I lived in Toronto for sometime and I hate how thh city tries so hard to be American like.
The two countries have a lot in common - history, language, economy, geography, etc. Nobody's trying to copy you. A lot of the shit you claim as your own actually is Canadian. Basketball, for instance. So who is trying to be like who....bitch?
[quote]The taxes are extremely high.
Oh my.. at least they have universal health care, unlike the United States. And if you think taxes in Canada are high, you wouldn't want to live in Scandinavia.
[quote]The cost of housing is outrageous. Canada has one of the most inflated housing markets in the world.
Try buying a house in Norway and come back to me.
[quote]Infrastructure (roads, public facilities) is subpar compared to the States.
Still better than the infrastructure in Norway and many other countries, you're exaggerating here.
[quote]As a previous poster mentioned, the PC politesse can be stifling.
No.. they're not PC at all, they're just not homophobic or racist like much of their American counterpart.
[quote]The cost of consumer goods is much higher than in the States despite parity with the US dollar.
The Canadians earn more than Americans, so in PPP it's actually not that expensive.
As you can tell from r27 and r28, Canadians also have a massive inferiority complex.
r29 is projecting, and also wears Mom jeans and shops at walmart..
R29, I'm not from Canada you moron. I'm Norwegian.
I'm a lumberjack and I'm OK
I sleep all night and I work all day
(He's a lumberjack and he's OK
He sleeps all night and he works all day)
I cut down trees, I eat my lunch
I go to the lavat'ry
On Wednesdays I go shopping
And have buttered scones for tea
They DO have an inferiority complex. Especially the people who live in Ontario, Alberta and BC (i.e. Toronto, Calgary, Vancouver). They have no idea how they sound.
Does Elias Koteas have an inferiority complex? He has nothing to feel inferior about, as his impressive trouser bulge will testify.
I do not think Elias Koteas has an inferiority complex. He has an impressive bulge, a good career in acting, and is originally from Montreal (the inferiority complex is most visible in those from Ontario, BC, and Alberta). Left Canada in the 80s to go to NY (another sign he probably does not have an inferiority complex).
I love the U.S. Just not some of the politics as well as some of the people. Much the same way I feel about Canada, which I also love (and love living in).
R28 is our resident troll, Paul. You can always tell from his condescending tones and endless box quotes. Freak.
For those comparing the US to Canada, compare Windsor Ontario to Detroit, one is a paradise (The Canadian City the American one is a war zone).. Toronto to Buffalo(TO is a world class city, Buffalo is a rust belt has been city). Montreal is so gorgeous as well. Our version of a French city is that cesspool called New Orleans.
There's also the marriage equality issue as well. Canada has it whereas nowhere near all fifty states have it.
On the tax issue, what do Canadians think... that we pay nothing here in taxes? We pay a relatively cost in terms of taxes relative to services in the US. then we have to pay for our healthcare,pension and a ton of out of pocket costs.
We pay a relatively high cost in taxes relative to services in the US.
To refute some of R28's claims:
The Conference Board of Canada last week released a report highlighting the earnings dilemma. The report gives Canada a “C” on income per capita, compared to a U.S. “B” grade. That is, our income per capita is $36,138; it’s $43,025 south of the border — a difference of nearly $7,000.
Last year, a survey by Bank of Montreal on consumer goods found that domestic retail prices are about 14 per cent higher than those in the U.S.
The report pointed to some wide price gaps [particularly] in the auto industry. A car buyer in Oshawa could be at a dealership within walking distance of the factory where the Chevrolet Camaro was assembled and face a list price almost $5,000 greater than the list price of the Camaro in Hawaii.
Overall, price disparities are pinching retailers in this country. After Ottawa loosened its duty-free rules last June, Canadians began to flock across the border in record numbers: Overnight travel to the United States hit 950,000 in September, the highest number since Statistics Canada began record-keeping in 1972.
R40 is missing the obvious, which is that Canadians actually earn that 30K where as in the USA, the typical worker earns more like 20K while the rich get the rest. Therefore the typical person in Canada can afford more stuff. Especially since they aren't paying half their income for health insurance, health deductibles, and pharmaceuticals.
Um, R27, Basketball was invented in Springfield, Massachusetts. I don't know where you got the idea that basketball was Canadian.
However, I do acknowledge that the inventor was Canadian-American.
Median pre-tax household income in the USA is $50,502 (2011 US Census)
In Canada, median household income after tax for households with two or more people was $65,500 in 2009. For singles it was much lower, $25K.
Nonetheless those were AFTER TAX.
Median total pre-tax income for Canadian households was over 70K in 2011, substantially more than in the United States.
I would argue that any difference in income for Canadian families is lost in the wash with the significantly higher cost of consumer goods and insane housing prices in Canada.
For the record - I do like living in Canada, but I dislike the sanctimony and superiorness of some Canadians (especially when comparing themselves to Americans). Our country has its share of problems however different than those in the States.
The average house price is expected to rise at the same rate as inflation through 2013, according to the Canada Mortgage and Housing Corporation (CMHC), and is forecast to reach CA$372,700 (US$366,254) by end-2012, and CA$383,600 (US$376,965) in 2013.
That's the point R45. Canadians have to pay a little more, but that keeps everyone employed and spending. In 1980, things were reversed. It was Canada which had higher income inequality and greater class barriers. But the USA made the wrong choices and Canada for the most part, the right choices, in the ensuing thirty years.
I don't hate it at all. If Americans don't hate America - the other day I was just wondering where all the Newtown outrage went - why on earth would you hate Canada if you were Canadian?
I can't think of another country on earth where it's guaranteed to be any better. There isn't one. This is fine. Imperfect, horrible weather, but generally clean and safe and no doubts about what happens to you if you get catastrophically sick. Plus, we came through the economic crisis of the last five years relatively unscathed. There's good things going on. It isn't perfect, but it's perfectly fine.
You couldn't pay me to live in the States, though parts of it are so beautiful and God knows the shopping's better. But it's just got such a weird head space. I'd love to live in London, but not owning an oil field, I can only afford to visit.
I'd love to live in London, Ontario, myself.
Left Canada 15 years ago... moved back about 4 years ago, and realized that I didn't really like Canadians much any more. The anti-American sentiment got old really fast - Canadians LOVE to complain about the U.S. - they define themselves as NOT American... Not really much of an identity...
And the supposed pro-Gay Canadians are only that way as long as they don't actually see any actual Gay people doing things horrifying like holding hands... People are still gaybashed in Vancouver, Toronto, Montreal... In fact, two brothers who beat the crap out of two Gay guys in Vancouver while they called them all kinds of homophobic slurs, were just found NOT guilty.
The cost of living is astronomical... Buying food can cost an arm and a leg...
The only plus I'll give to Canada is the health care - way better than the system in the US... But not enough to keep me there... Moved back to California after a year in Canada....
I'm from DownUnder, and did Post-Grad study in "Tarunta". Really enjoyed the city and the amount of cultural events on offer - visual arts, dance, music, literature. The cold winters can actually support a certain inwardness that bears fruits in the form of creative output. I liked how I saw many Torontonians reading on the subways and trams, and if you went to cafes, people were prepared to talk about a range of ideas. I even saw Michael Ondaatje in a bookshop once, browsing through a Michael Chabon book! Socially and politically, I felt a certain kindredship with Canadians - the influence of English humour and a tradition of social responsibility.
Canada and Canadians are currently on trial and not looking too good.
If Canada elects the anti-gay, Oil Company financed Stephen Harper in for a 3rd time this 2015, yes I will hate Canada. Canada will have jumped the shark.
R49 doesn't realize time has moved on and ALL countries change. What will he/she do if Cali turns out not to his liking eventually? Move to another country?
I've noticed lots of insecure Americans on these I hate (insert country here) thread. I see very few foreigners (trolls excepted) saying that America sucks/jumped the shark. I'm convinced that some of the freeper queens here have yet to go farther than the Piggly Wiggly in the next town for excitement.
The US government makes it almost impossible for Canadians to move to the US. My boss here in DC is Canadian and she is able to work here but she is not allowed to apply for citizenship. That sucks.
You would THINK it would be easy for Canadians to get US citizenship. We make it easy for Ethiopians and Chinese and Russians, but we make it a long, hellish journey for Canadians.
My how times have changed. Every queer in the U.S. wanted to move to Canada 6 years ago. Now it's "backward".
Don't get too impulsive; a couple celebrity marriage endorsements don't mean shit.
Would the Elias Koteas troll please stop?
I've had two trips to Canada ruined because I look like him. But I have hair and green eyes, so I'm the prettier girl. We are not good-looking. Don't even know who the bitch is. Zac Efron, George Clooney, and Charles Barkley are good-looking. What is your problem, dude? Do I look like your dead daddy? I've been accosted on the streets of Montreal and Toronto. All in French. Seriously thought that I was on the local TV news as being a serial rapist.
I can't even find a date in San Francisco and am daily punished for being Greek. I have a huge, warm, comfy bed. Why is your weird ass not in it?
Thanks to my wonderful job, I've seen as many Canadian provinces as I've seen US states. No sane Canadian would ever want to live elsewhere. But apparently, I can't ever live in Canada, thanks to some old, stupid, Greek-Canadian actor guy who resembles me.
A crowd formed around me at a state liquor store in Montreal and they were yelling at me in French. Cops were called. I had to be escorted out. All I wanted was to take the cheap jug of Vodka with my Tim Horton's burger back to my hotel room without notice. It felt as if I was being filmed for my Mom after buying gay porn, a big dildo, and a vat of lube.
I'm an opthomologist and the most average looking person you could ever meet and I love that Canadians seem to love me but I could never live there. This Elias person needs to die before I'll ever return to Canadialand.
London Ontario is the anti-gay center of Canada. Their mayor Diane Haskall, fought against public space for gay events for years until she went down to work for the US Republican party. Their chief of police, Julian Fantino, used to conduct anti-gay witch hunts in the city. Northern London, around Ilderton, is the worst.
We're lucky to live in Canada although I could do without the French.
I love that DL has both an Elias Koteas troll and a disgruntled Elias Koteas look-alike.
And I love living in Canada. Ten years of gay marriage have made this an even more tolerant country than we were before. My 70 year old parents car-pool with a gay couple to church.
Dear Gentile Canadian @ r58,
Hate to hijack this thread about the merits of fine Canadian living, but would you please tell me if this Elias Koteas dude is some sort of super-hero in your great white, icy nation to the north?
There's an Elias Koteas fetishist here on the DL and we haven't connected. No one in the US has heard of him. Who is he?
Eastern Canadians have really hit on me hard. This never happens to me anywhere else on the planet. Should have moved up there before I turned 50. It's really weird, but I like it.
You people (saying that in the Texas politician's sense) have delivered so many beautiful and talented folks to the US media. Why so much love for Elias Koteas? Is it real or all in my head? Maybe it's because Canadians are polite?
My boss has banned me from travel to Canada because I come home all ecstatic and walking funny and he's jealous.
R59, I am not the Elias Koteas troll, though I'm sure he will join us shortly. Elias has a multi-pronged appeal: he's ubiquitous, always gives a solid performance, has no problems with gay sex scenes (Crash) and he has an impressive cock, as glimpsed in this clip from Zodiac.
R55, your Elias Koteas lookalike status really is useless without pictures! Please photograph yourself in tight beige pants like Mr. Koteas wears in the afore-linked clip from Zodiac, and we will judge you for ourselves.
I like garage sales, lots of good deals there. I hadn't heard that Canadian shops are run-down, but so what? What you can't find in a shop, is sure to be available online, and for a good price too.
or else tight red briefs like Elias wears in Novocaine (ignore the blood)
Please. The stores are not really any different than in the US - JCrew, Gap, H&M, etc. There are some domestic chains such as Canadian Tire (something like Target?), Tim Horton's (bad coffee and sandwiches) and The Bay (traditional department store). But they aren't run-down.
"Canadian shops" don't really exist. The stores in Canada are basically American stores. Same American stores. And all full of stuff made in China.
Gays should stay east of the Quebec border.
R64, one of the most iconic of Canadian shops is Laura Secord chocolates, named for the famous cow-leading, American-tricking heroine of the War of 1812. My mum buys me a chocolate hockey puck there every Christmas!
Purdy's Chocolateirs is a GREAT chocolate store that is sadly not in as many malls as Godiva or Laura Secord. Their 8% dark chocolate bars are way nicer and more affordable than the Lindt stuff.
Target is now opening here with great fan fare and even Sarah Jessica Parker was at the one that opened last week in east end Toronto. They are supposedly opening more unannounced ones all over the city. Nordstrom's is coming soon and we have had Marshalls for a few years now. Rumor has it that Kohl's, Bloomingdale's and JC Penney were interested in opening stores here. We also have a superb Montreal chain named Simon's that is supposedly opening more stores in "English" Canada.
Restaurant wise is where we kind of lag Americans, specifically "family" and fast food. We have the usual McD's/Popeye/Five Guys/Starbucks/Burger King/Subway/KFC like every nation on earth, but we also have Tim Horton's and Harvey's, a Five Guys like chain with better burgers. We have no idea what Cracker Barrel, Chick FIL A or Sonic Burger is, except for seeing commercials on US stations. Jack In the BOx would do well up here but "popular" US specialty chains like Krispy Kreme, Fuddruckers, TCBY and Perkins have flopped here. Only now is Denny's attempting a comeback and Applebee's are relegated to far off suburbs in bigger metro areas.
Truffle Pig is the best chocolate (I think it is out of BC).
I hate canada but I love DISCO
Then you should watch this R72. Canadian disco has no equal.
[quote]Truffle Pig is the best chocolate (I think it is out of BC).
I’d be a Truffle Pig for Elias Koteas’ hole.
Many Canadians feel Canada is under siege by radical US Republican backed Evangelicals.
It is like living in an occupied country.
Canada is too Right wing now. It keeps getting worse. People are fed up with immigration.
People need to slap faces
Occupied by what, R75? Hockey players, married gays and Anne Murray? If US Evangelicals are trying to make inroads here, they're failing miserably. They can't even win an election in their own country!
Right wing politicians and immigration are Canadas 2 biggest problems today.
Then you're in a connundrum, R79 because left wing politicians are generally immigrant friendly and with an aging population, Canada will need a pop. boost from outside the country.
Canada's National Heath service is already over burdened and the highways and city infrastructures are crumbling.
Canada DOES NOT NEED MORE PEOPLE.
Like the rest of the G7, they need to properly provide for the ones they already have.
R80 is repeating the same old lies, hoping people will be brainwashed
Canada today is not the Canada of yesterday people loved so much.
That's for sure, R83.
Well,Harper did say before he was elected that when he was finished with Canada you wouldn't recognize it.
As in the USA the Ridings or voting districts are being jigged to insure the election of conservatives who are more concerned with what one does with their naughty bits rather than how to effectively govern ALL Canadians.
Even at that a it has become urban vs. rural as far as voting patterns are concerned.
Contrary to earlier postings,our infrastructure is not crumbling - although if Harper has his way we'll be having neighbourhood bake sales or prayer circles to get the pot holes filled.
My neighbours are both structural engineers,and they hold their breath every time they have to cross a bridge in the USA.
They say Americans have to idea how on the edge they are because of infrastructure neglect.
On the contrary, Americans are very well aware of how bad their infrastructure is. Most of it was built when an expectation of rising population and incomes would ensure its speedy replacement.
Harper will be reflected. Libs don't want to accept the reality that the country has swung to the Right and that the liberal parties are a mess. Neocons run the show. Canada, you had a nice run. Too bad for all the Americans who ran over there due to Bush.
Swung to the Right R87?
He barely scraped by with 38% of the vote.
So the Jesus freaks are in control of Canada now?
The pretend-Jesus freaks who want to ruin Canada and sell it to anyone are in control now. They don't really believe in anything, except short-term profit for themselves, but they pretend they are fundie to get the fundie idiots that will vote for them in Ontario and Western Canada. There aren't even a lot of them, but they have rigged the politics so they can squeak in. The majority of the population does NOT vote for them, but their votes are divided into three or four opposition parties.
I think it would be fun if Canada were broken up into about three countries.
It would make sense. The US should be three or four or five countries, too.
R87, you've got that ass-backwards: the Conservatives had to veer to the left to win which is why Harper keeps shutting down the rebellion among former Reformers on the back bench. Watching Harper's empire implode is gonna be some sweet stuff.
R83, personally I prefer the Canada of the last ten years because I can now legally marry. "The good old days" = second class citizenship for gays.
Name a country in better economic & social shape than Canada? Seriously. There are about five nations that can (arguably) top us.
[quote]you've got that ass-backwards: the Conservatives had to veer to the left to win which is why Harper keeps shutting down the rebellion among former Reformers on the back bench. Watching Harper's empire implode is gonna be some sweet stuff.
More lib spin.
The majority of Canada wants to bring back the death penalty now.
The Conservative-Reform Party has NOT "veered to the left."
The Canada of the last ten years is really the beginning of the end. Only going to get worse unless Harper is thrown out SOON by a genuine opposition party.
I miss SCTV.
r90, this country has always been sold by TPTB since its inception.In fact, that was the reason it was settled in the first place.
Its natural resources were up for grabs then and now.
I know, R98, but they want to sell it very QUICKLY now, at rock-bottom prices.
r99, it's the people they're selling it to that bugs me.
China is a mess and we should not be giving them mining concessions (effectively, through stakes in existing companies).
Yeah, he just made a big deal that sold us out to China. And we are locked into it for 30 years. And 95% of the population is unaware of this.
How can Canada get more made in China goods than it already has. It is not technically possible. So what did they deal away to China for 30 years?
I am a Brit and I have visited Canada twice. The first time was a short trip to Niagra Falls and Toronto the second was a longer trip where I took in Vancouver, Whistler, Kamploops, Banff and Calgary. I loved it all. The only place I really wasn't too keen on was Calgary.
Our natural resources, R102. That is what they wanted.
Why does Harper have to make a 30 year deal with the Chinese, when the worlds natural resources are fast running out and Canada is one of the few still holding significant reserves?
Very, very suspicious deal if you ask me.
Canada has changed.
I have lived all over the world (8 countries) and traveled to 34 countries, I have found that overall, Canadians care less and less about Americans' opinions, yet Americans continue to spout how much they hate Canada--why do they care so much that they have to tell everyone about it? We don't really care about the US as a nation or its people for that matter. stop being so insecure and complaining about every little thing and do something about your life.
In spite of his cocaine dealing past, Rob Ford got his subway. Sounds very American to me. I liked it better when Canpols were naive innocents who consulted the dead.
Rob for, is the Canadian Rush Limbaugh.
There are not many Canadian borns still living in Toronto these days anyways.
OP, are you one of the gays that migrated north when Canada started allowing gay marriage? And now that the U.S. is becoming more open-minded you want to head back to Chelsea?
I see that comedian Robin Williams commented on Canada recently, "Canada is like a really nice apartment above a meth lab..."
A lot of truth in that,actually.
Every time I see a Canadian home show like "Love It or List It" I'm reminded how ugly housing is in Toronto.
I'm told by some Canadians that the national flag is really the "rubber check."
True or false?
Also, can any Canadian tell us about Montreal Smoked Beef? Is it really better than corned beef or pastrami?
I don't think Americans think about Canada that much. But if you go on any Canadian website, you'll find that Canadians think quite a bit about Americans. And it's mostly negative stuff.
I am thankful each and every day that I live in the best country in the world. We just smile to ourselves when we see all the disgruntled Americans clinging pathetically to the tired, hackneyed, long dead "american dream".
R112. Toronto is a really, really, bad example of what Canada is actually like.
Try Halifax, Montreal or Ottawa.
R107 that's a laughable comment. If Canadians really didn't care about Americans' opinions, they wouldn't keep ripping off our culture. At least 75% of current Canadian "culture", whether it tv, film, music, fashion/style, new food ideas, slang speech is actually American. I have read plenty of hateful comments by Canadians but then when you look at their profiles they'll be filled with American culture.
Then there are the nice Canadians who either want to be American, or who have no problem admitting that their country rips off American ideas time and time again.
I kind of hate Canada (especially Alberta) and I don't really like Canadians either (especially Albertans).
But damn those Property Brothers are HOT!!!!!
75% is a gross understatement, R117, And I agree, I've heard from two different Canadian sources that Ryan Reynolds doesn't like being reminded he is (or was) Canadian.
Hey Asshat 117
Do you have any idea how many British Television shows you rely on for your so called American culture? Your cuntry steals everything world wide and repackages it as their own.Most creativety in America is fueled by people from other countries. American culture and education is so insular that it has no ability to really create anything thing new. Always a rehash.
I only have known Western Canada; and I love it dearly!
If I had the means, I'd move up there in a New York minute!
It's not the country that's at fault. Wherever you go in this world, you carry your baggage with you. You are an ambassador of sorts. People will judge your home country by your attitude.
It's a dull, passionless country. Stable, boring, safe, sterile. Lacks an identity, lacks a soul.
I am Canadian and I love it here.
For one, our government doesn't shut down.
I have traveled across the Country and there are so many beautiful parts. From the Rocky mountains, to the prairies to the gorgeous wilderness in Ontario.
Our culture is generally very progressive. Even our conservative government is pretty much in line with Obama, politically. Gay marriage was legal here long before it was in the US.
We have healthcare. No one debates it.
Montreal and Toronto are world class cities with thriving art and culture.
We have stricter gun laws.
The news and radio here is generally very intelligent and doesn't talk down to the audience.
I mean, OP is right that we don't have Honey Boo Boo OR a Miley Cirus fixation, but otherwise, it's a great Country.
At Canadian music award shows we honour genuinely talented people like KD Lang....and forgo Miley Cyrus performances.
Yeah it's kind of dull. But I love the health care in most of the country although it's getting pretty shitty in some provinces.
Not enough Canadians vote! Each election there are record low numbers of voter turnout. People are too complacent. Also Canada is horribly racist towards Native Canadians STILL but good luck getting people to admit it. But all in all it's a pretty good country.
Wannabe Americans and talentless Bieber and Drake are examples of "how amazing" Canada is...
R120 if Canadians are so smart, why do they copy Americans so much? Why can't you guys come up with your own stuff? When you turn on a tv or listen to the radio, it's almost all American pop culture you see and hear.
Earl Grey is running for Premier of Nova Scotia. He's the best candidate anywhere. Check him out at the Tuxedo Party on Facebook. Wish there were more like him in the States.
I agree, R122
And Canada appears to be losing whatever charm or heart that it had.
The people are actually pretty cold and can be mean, too.
Obviously R128 you have no real knowledge of, or experience with the culture and entertainment business. America controls film distribution and all kinds of other venues that stop competition. Netflixs is a perfect example of this. The stuff that the North American market has access to is limited by the distributers, so Canadian properties don't have a chance to compete with the American crap.If not for the British TV shows Netflixs would go bust.
Have you seen the movie Argo? No one asked Ben Affleck to take this story and turn it inside out to make it seem like the whole thing was masterminded by America. It is really a Canadian story about helping Americans get out of Iran. It is not a CIA spy thriller that used the Canadian Embassy as a safe house while heroic CIA agents figured out how to get their people out of Iran.
Why is it that Canadians dominate your entertainment industry if we have no talent. We have to go to your country to make money because our Indusrtry is suffocated by yours.
By the way ,if you are going to film in Canada quit pretending we are America.
Oh, it's all crap, who cares if it is "Canadian" or "American"? Not the people making the junk.
I work for a Canadian company and it seems that management and Canadian DO NOT Mix. They seem to be afraid to make tough decision, nobody take a stand to shake things up, they rule by consensus. They can also be passive aggressive and have difficulty competing in business on the world stage. That said, the people I have met are lovely on an individual basis. I honestly don't get the hate for Canada or Canadians in general. The cities I have visited, Montreal, Toronto, are on par with any of the major cities in the US really. I am heading to Vancouver later this month and looking forward to it.
I don't understand the hate for Canada threads either. Canada has always been such a great friend to America and our economies are largely symbiotic.I think these posts are all started by the same person who is probably and insecure Canadian who has no self esteem. Something like a gay homophobe.
R132 oh please. Canadians could easily have success inside of Canada. Occasionally there will be a song or movie or show, but face it-mostly, Canadians want to see American movies and shows and hear American music. Get over your inferiority victim complex.
Of course we want to see American movies,and hear American music - after all so much of your greatest cultural exports are made and recorded right here in Canada.
As far as Bieber and Drake are concerned R128 , the reason they are in the USA is because that's where their audience is and Americans are signing the cheques.
American culture is now the world's pop culture and now your cultural exports mainly action movies,porn,military hardware and all things booze related.
We love American culture- stuff that blows up real good - we love that shit.
Now go get me a bourbon and coke.
R 132 is CORRECT. Movie theatre managers are pressured by US distribution companies to keep their under-performing US movies on screens longer than Canadian films in exchange for summer blockbusters.
There are Canadian content laws for TV and radio but not for film.
I'm not making excuses but the challenges facing home grown Canadian media is a very complicated issue.
R137 face it-Canadians are just fascinated with American culture and basically act like Americans. Most of them just don't admit it. You can stay mad, pressed and bothered all you like and try twisting it, but it's the truth and you know Canadians bend over for American culture time and time again.
I wasn't making excuses for lack of Canadian success. I do not feel that I have to. What I am saying is America is holding all the cards and dominating the distribution system. We often penetrate your system and conquer it, unlikely we can overthrow it. My point is you hold more of the cards...for now. You subsume everything and make it your own and do not even know that you are doing it.
Do Canadians have size meat?
R141 everyone knows Canadians are all insatiable bottom bitches. Isn't it obvious? Who could seriously get topped by someone who says "eh" or "sorry (pronounced as sore-y)"?
The only one around here obviously mad, pressed and bothered is you R139.
BTW..what exactly is American Culture since you are the finger wagging self proclaimed expert on the subject?
Any ideas outside of hamburger meat,guns and entertainment?
I see one of your cultural icons the comedian Robin Williams just this past week observed "Canada is the nice apartment above a meth lab..."
followed quickly by John Cleese of the UK proclaiming Canadians as the "sanest people on earth".
It's often been remarked (outside the US,of course) that Canada is the country the USA always thought it was.
And now,if you'll excuse me,I've got to get busy since I still have two weeks of my six weeks paid holiday to use up and I'm planning on spending it once again at one of those terrific resorts in Cuba run by the Swedes.
So many of your 1% citizens love Cuba as well...Havana is absolutely shoulder to shoulder with your wealthy. Of course,the embargo never applied to them - only you.
The overly defensive Canadian Kweens are hilarious. Get your lives together. It's funny how upset they get at Canadians being called out for copying Americans.
As if the opinions of Robin Williams and John Cleese are supposed to mean something major?
MAJOR sizemeat if they are Anglo Canadian. French Canadians, not so much.
But Canadian men are so hot :(
Do Canadian TV shows rate higher than American ones on Canadian TV?
I'm from the UK but have family in Canada.
I would say I prefer Canada and Canadians to the US because (like this thread) US people constantly need to reaffirm their US identity, their rivalry with any nationality that 'threatens' or 'irks' them by berating them and playing up physical or perceived social differences. It's been going on on here for years.
It's like Americans need daily reassurance to know they are 'better'. You rarely if ever, get Canadians coming here starting threads about how fabulous they are, and how shit everyone else is by comparison.
That basically tells me all I need to know about who's the more dignified.
R149 is a typical Brit who doesn't know what he's talking about but has formed an opinion anyway.
You clearly don't know enough Canadians, or have not read enough Canadian posts online. Many of them try to proclaim how much better Canada is than the US. They're obsessed with that notion despite copying the US in almost every way possible.
im not a canadian but i have lived there a few years. and yes, definitely the us is by far a superior country to live in. for one thing, canada is way more racist than the usa, but there is so much denial about it, its like visiting a pervert uncle who is a pedophile and everyone knows it, but no one ever calls him on it. for another, canada is alike a parallel universe of america only its cheap (the quality of goods that is, since everything in canada is made in china), canadians dont know shit about good customer service, they are ignorant about the world in general and think everything they hear in the news about the world is actually the way things are. the majority of them have never been anywhere but still have a pompous self righteous attitude about themselves and their shithole country....in short, canada is like a cheap made in china imitation of the usa. i dont even know why the us even bothers with canada, we should just invade and get it over with since "canada" is really just uncle sam's mini-me, but nowhere near as cool or bad ass.
[quote]It's like Americans need daily reassurance to know they are 'better'. You rarely if ever, get Canadians coming here starting threads about how fabulous they are, and how shit everyone else is by comparison.
When was the last time someone started a thread saying how fabulous the US is?
I think you've got it reversed. It's the Canadians who are obsessed with America. And they're quite bitter. They should be happy. They're like the lamprey eel that gets to ride along on the back of the Great White Shark.
I don't hate Canada. I'd much rather be Canadian than Amurrican. The U.S. seems like a scary place to live if you're not rich or white.
[quote] The U.S. seems like a scary place to live if you're not rich or white.
Really? America is the melting pot of the world. We give everybody a chance.
I'd kill myself if I was american. *shudder*
LOL R151 just described America and Americans to a T!
Some Canuckians seem to think they know what America is like based solely on tv shows, movies and negative news. The ones who actually come here for shopping and vacation always love it.
In Canucka, most of the films, tv shows and music people are into come from the US and then the rest are Canuckian and British.
Canucka barely has a culture of its own yet they seem to think they're better than everyone else.
I've watched quite a bit of Canadian television and know a few Canadians, but have never been. Nothing I've seen, however, indicates they're more racist than the U.S. There are issues with the treatment of Native peoples and it's usually awful, don't get me wrong, but I don't know that it's worse than the shit that goes down here in the U.S.
What a lame-ass question from an even bigger lame-ass dickbrain. All you think about is dicks. The reason that yours is so tiny ...that's where your brain is so we know you'll always have teeny tiny one. If you ever get dementia, it will get even smaller. You'll probably have to start screwing mice. Good luck with that, rI, maybe it will will dry up and fall off
I'm an American who has travelled in Canada, including Vancouver, Vancouver Island (Victoria), Quebec (Montreal, Quebec City), Toronto and surrounding environs, Nova Scotia (Cape Breton Island), and Prince Edward Island.
Loved it all. Love, love love, Nova Scotia. My favorite vacation ever was exploring Nova Scotia and Cape Breton Island.
If you're searching for a good author, try Canadian Louise Penny. Her mysteries take place mostly in a village near Montreal, include a gay couple among the characters, and are real gems. If you read them, start in order with the Still Life. Still Life was her first, they get better and better as she progresses through the series. One includes many scenes in winter in Quebec City (The Brutal Telling) and it is fabulous.
r154, Right. And the pope is about to become a Jew. And Americans Rejoice Over OBAMACARE. America doesn't even take good care of the poor white middle class. They are too busy giving it away to the baby making machines.
What is worse than a gay American?
Two gay Americans!
SOme things about it. I absolutely hated it when I was younger.
r151 is correct about the racism and denial of it. People are especially racist towards Native Canadians & Asians. They're also very Classicist.
America is a melting pot? It's more like a CROCK pot
R165 and the mayor of Canucka's biggest city, Toronto, is a crackpot. He's still in office.
Datalounge welcomes our Canadian friends
(143) You asked what American culture is besides hamburger meat and guns.
Last time I checked, Canada didn't create Abstract Expressionism, Jazz, Rock n Roll, Hip Hop, Rap. It didn't produce Emily Dickinson, Melville, Faulkner, Harper Lee. It didn't produce Martin Scorcese. It doesn't have the largest Art museum in the Western Hemisphere
(the US does, its called the Met, dear.) Toronto is in no way shape or form comparable to NYC. Its very nice, but it is not on the level of a NY, Paris or Rome.
I used to like Canadians, but then I realized after listening to many of them that they truly believe that being Canadian makes them intrinsically superior to Americans, even if an American is smart, sensitive and liberal. Its bizarre and kind of pathetic.
When Canadians talk about culture, they often mention health insurance. While your social system is lovely, and I admire it very much and hope for the same here, I don't think of health insurance when I think of cultural output.
But its a wasted argument because I feel most Canadians like to say we have no culture... all the while listening to the music that originated in OUR country.
PS: MANY countries other than Canada have national Universal health coverage. You are not unique or special because of this.
(115) - You are a perfect example of why I really began to dislike Canadians.
r171 is right on. I love our social programs but culturally with the exception of Leonard Cohen we suck.
Per 132, Canadians apparently "dominate" the US film/tv industry.
there are some seriously delusional people on this thread.
No, I love living in Canada. I hate hot weather. I hate sitting on beaches, though I appreciate the beauty of the views. I love stepping out of the house on a brisk winter day, with a big blue sky, and walking for an hour or so, breathing the cool, fresh air. I love taking walks on cool autumn evenings. Not so fond of spring here, which is generally slushy and ugly.
The highways where I live are generally in top condition.
Yes, there are many things that could be improved, but that is the case everywhere, is it not?
CANADIANS---DO YOU HATE THE UNITED STATES?
All this 'negative stuff' Canadians are supposedly posting online about America... what is it and where is it incorrect?
How do Canadians and Americans compare in size?
I work in Canada and it is quite boring. I find everything a little rough around the edges. In terms of culture, sports and the great outdoors lead the way, but media is mostly imported. Stores are similar to the US (everything just costs more).
On the plus side, the people are very friendly and there is a good work life balance. Workers are well protected in some sectors by unions. People are generally fair.
I do know some Canadians who do like to think they are superior to Americans and/ or just plain hate Americans, but I don't find this to be a national trait. If anything, Canadians are to busy hating each other (e.g., TO v Vancouver). Outside the bug cities, you will find a lot of narrow minded people.
The States belong to that loud, brash, small group of countries where national pride is important to their sense of self identity. There is no denying there was a period where America dominated in massive contributions in the march of the world into the future. Once upon a time so did Britain, France, Germany, Spain. These moments come and go in the scheme of things.
Canada belongs to the more typical, larger group of countries that never dominated. The Switzerlands, the Australias, etc.
You can't compare the two on equal terms... as forces in the world, they are apples and oranges.
I do think America is struggling to figure out what becomes of it now. The giant is not as strong as it was. The nation is starkly divided. The politics appear close to hopeless. Nothing lasts forever. The States will stabilize. What it looks like, no idea.
The US has the challenges of Goliath, Canada the challenges of David.
R176, no, I do not hate the U.S. or Americans.
i'm glad canada and quebec are not commercial cultures as much... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AAbisg02JD4
I'm from Nortern Europe, so I might actually give a more impartial view. Well ...
So, the current post is comparing the economies of Canada and the United States.
in Canada are higher because of geographical factors affecting economies of scale: world's second-largest land mass and lowest population density of large countries, and a much colder climate. Low population density thus affects the dynamics of demand and supply. Factor in import duties (where free trade agreements are not in effect), taxes, and the price of fuel. The total effect, therefore, is on costs for transportation and storage of goods.
It was already noted upthread that Canadians on average are actually more able to afford stuff than people in the U.S., despite the prices. This is because Canada has much lower income inequality than the U.S., much lower amount of people below powerty line — 9.4% vs 14.8%, and a better labor participation rate — 72% vs. 66.6%.
I assume Canada's reported unemployment rate of 6.9% to be the actual number of people unemployed vs. 6.7% in the U.S., where the figure doesn't count the people who have stopped looking for work. In United States, 33,4% of the working-age population does not work, of which only 6.7% are looking for work (=is on unemployment); this leaves 26.7% of the working-age population who are not employed.
Despite its flaws, Canada's public health system keeps people healthy without making them destitute — a healthy person is also able to contribute to the economy; an unhealthy person is first a burden, and then a loss.
For example, without the UK National Health Service (similar in nature to that of Canada), Stephen Hawking would have been remembered by a small group of learned people as a very bright student who succumbed to a debilitating disease. At best, he would have lingered in an expensive low-quality care home.
Oh, and taxes. Just very recently I've heard and read news that a record number of people related to United States gave up their citizenship and green cards because of overreaching tax laws. The renunciations for that year numbered about 3000.
(The link tells the many reasons why the FATCA law is not good for Americans.)
So much for now.
R184 if you have low standards. Canuckers are hardly known for being "hot". They're known for being weak, submissive and awful in bed. They're barely better than the Brits. Not real men.
[quote]I used to like Canadians, but then I realized after listening to many of them that they truly believe that being Canadian makes them intrinsically superior to Americans, even if an American is smart, sensitive and liberal. Its bizarre and kind of pathetic.
Reminds me of a tour I took to Pompeii. We were in a group and walking around and a woman asked the guide how they handled murderers in those days. (They were given to the victim's family, chained up on their property, and fed scraps the dog wouldn't eat.) I thought it was a good questions he asked:
"That's a great question," I said.
"That's because I'm Canadian," she said.
Especially if an American is smart sensitive in liberal. They think of such people as "losers."
r187, The "losers" just whooped the American girl's asses in today's hockey game---WE ARE TAKING HOME THE GOLD! ! !
Yup. I lived in the US for many years but was forced to come back and I HATE it. If I never lived in the US I would never have known how good and easy life could be and how much nicer and more positive people are. In Canada, everyone is rooting for you to fail only so they don't look bad in comparison. I HAAAATE living here! The free health care is definitely NOT worth it. I wish I could get out but I'm stuck.
White Canadians are nice to other white Canadians. Non white Canadians like Natives or Blacks? Not so much.
Since a Canadian discovered insulin, they have been enablers to our bad eating habits.
I only know Canada from Vancouver, Toronto and Quebec and the fact that I work for a Canadian company. The Canadians I have met are really nice for the most part, overly polite, not very competitve and a little passive aggressive. One of my good friends is Canadian and has a huge cock so it's sort of clouded my opinion of them in a good way. And, a couple of the most beautiful young men I have seen recently were working in a grocery store in Mt. Tremblant. IT was like a Bel Ami casting.