George Washington. A mediocre general (thank God for France) and astonishingly elitist. Treated his soldiers like shit and abandoned them after the war.
Tom Paine put it well in his letter to him: "Monopolies of every kind marked your administration almost in the moment of its commencement. The lands obtained by the Revolution were lavished upon partisans; the interest of the disbanded soldier was sold to the speculator…In what fraudulent light must Mr. Washington's character appear in the world, when his declarations and his conduct are compared together."
The corporatization of America began on day one. Give me Thomas Jefferson over George Washington any day of the week.
You're kidding, right?
I wonder who OP thinks he's talking about?
Mathama Gahndi, of course.
Didn't you see the movie, where he was played by Sir Neb Skingely?
And to think they made a movie about that deadbeat Gandhi!
OP is correct. Gandhi made a TON of money after that picture that he made of himself won the Oscar. It's a well known fact, you can read it on the internet.
He claimed to be an archeoligist but he got more things destroyed than he put in museums.
Leave OP alone. He's special.
Yeah, you tell 'em Mom. He also takes the short buss to school with the droolers.
R14, that reminds me of something Rose said on THE GOLDEN GIRLS: "We may not agree with the fishermen, but we want this demonstration to be peaceful. In the tradition of... you know, the short, bald Indian fellow with the glasses and the diapers... you know, the one who didn't eat and won an Oscar."
As an individual, yes, Gandhi is overrated.
His principles preserved aristocratic social structures, and as a politician he was good at creative stunts rather than organizing. Nevertheless his ability to preach treason without being destroyed for it, was impressive.
Not that I disagree on Washington, but Jefferson persisted in owning slaves throughout his life (and fathered children with at least one of them, Sally Hemings), and unlike many of his contemporaries, he didn't free most of his slaves upon his death.
I can't be believe we lost the Empire to an anorexic in a loin cloth.
[quote] Which historical do you think is overrated?
Abraham Lincoln -- a fucking racist.
R8 does not know his history at all- and I suppose R29 is just trying to stir up shit.
If you want to know why Americans put people like Michele Bachman in office, just look at posts on this thread starting with the OP.
I have to go with John Quincy Adams, styled as a "Founding Father" by Michele Bachmann.
I've never understood why Magellan gets credit for circumnavigating the globe when he died halfway through the voyage.
Ronald Reagan. When will that madness end?
Don't feed the retarded animals. Let them die quietly.
In regards to Gandhi, India’s freedom would have happened within a few years of 1947 even if Gandhi had spent his life meditating in a cave. He was a figurehead for the cause, while various other leaders were doing most of the work (and if you say “I’ve never heard of anyone else,” I won’t be remotely surprised). In true Thomas Edison fashion, he was happy to take the credit.
Martin Luther King, Jr.
Womanizer, con artist, plagiarizer..
He gets all the glory, but their were tons of African-Americans before, during, and after his existence who were worked just as hard or even harder than he did. Basically, see Gandhi. Civil rights was coming for blacks, one way or the other.
Both men deserve some praise, but it's way over the top.
R33, the voyage began with a crew of 265 men aboard five ships, and ended with only 11 men aboard one returning ship. Yet Magellan gets the credit because it was his expedition that completed the journey. Overrated? Perhaps. But Magellan did live long enough to find a passageway to the Pacific and successfully crossed the Pacific, which no known person had done before.