This Is Why We Hate Them...New video of pro-family riots across Paris. Police tear gas violent anti-gay thugs in multiple locale
Family values thugs rioted in Paris yesterday, throwing objects at police, storming police lines, and intentionally putting their children in danger, enraged that their government is in the process of giving full civil rights to their gay and lesbian citizens via the right to marry.
A second video we just obtained shows that violence was not the exception at the “pro family” march, it was the rule. There was violence in at least three different locations in Paris yesterday.
In the video we posted yesterday, you can see throngs of religious right protesters pushing against police lines and ignoring the police’s admonitions to back up. The police are finally forced to tear gas the mob, and use their batons, and what happens next? A family values thug yells to the mob, repeatedly, to “put the children up front!” He then went right up to the police barricade, where he was ordered not to go, and challenged the police using his two-year-old child as a human shield against the police.
[quote] He then went right up to the police barricade, where he was ordered not to go, and challenged the police using his two-year-old child as a human shield against the police.
And the police should have maced and beaten the two-year old.
Mess with the bull, you get the horns.
It's a shame that gay people can't generate that much passion and unity in their own community.
Have them form a barricade and then get them all shot down like every other revolution in French history.
Are many of these protestors North African?
R7 not so from the pics and videos accompanying the story at the link posted
[quote]So much for France being a bastion of liberality and worldly sophistication...
Yet, their anti-gay hysteria doesn't surprise me in the least. Look at their president. Look at their own particular brand of machismo.
In fact Look at their leaders in most any field. - Always white men. Men who can be as sexist as they want. Their main cultural staple that they love to brag about is their FOOD and yet every celebrated contest is dominated by white MEN— all the lead restauranteurs, All the chefs, All are white men. There is NO discussion of having women as equal in these fields.
Before you brand me as a femi0nazi just think about it. They like for their men to be men and women to be women. Anything that blurs the lines is ignored. You can see it across the board in their culture.
Sexism is rampant- and homophobia is a closed cousin with sexism.
This shit is no surprise.
They have religious nuts over there too?
I thought the French were more liberal and worldly.
r9 hits the nail on the head.
So much for Western Europe being laid back and "live and let live", huh?
Every country has their wing-nuts!
After this horror, I'm moving to Uganda, perhaps Iran or Yemen. Fuck these intolerant Europeans.
300k plus (I was there) in January, in Paris, and trust me, there were A LOT of dark faces in that crowd. Very, very large number of Muslims. I was speaking with a really attractive gay couple at the restaurant later that night (I believe they were French but were perhaps Belgian,) "What the fuck is all this about? How is it these groups (what appeared to be old Catholic folks, Hajib-covered women, men in Kippahs) are unified?" They looked at me like a naive little wench and told me some of their fellow gay acquaintances and friends were protesting gay marriage earlier that day at the rally AS WELL. Nonplussed as can be, they went back to their shitty Consomme.
Euro liberal leanings are true for nudity, social programs, and marijuana, perhaps, but most of these supposed European progressive bastions (mostly in countries dominated by Catholic doctrine) are about as comfortable with two men fucking as the state of Kentucky is.
[quote]300k plus (I was there) in January, in Paris, and trust me, there were A LOT of dark faces in that crowd. Very, very large number of Muslims.
This is why Muslims should stay in their shitty backwards countries.
R9, their president is a left wing Socialist who has fought to get gay marriage legalized in France. He also appointed many ethnic minority and female members of his government including Christiane Taubira, the Minister of Justice who gave a very powerful speech to the National Assembly in favour of gay marriage.
I'm not saying that sexism and racism don't exist in France, they certainly do, but France is not quite the racist, sexist hellhole you think it is.
I remember watching Colbert a few months ago and he had a bit about "pro-family" protestors in France. He showed a clip of one of their demonstrations in which they waved large pink signs around while "Mamma Mia" blared on in the background. His comment was "Just so you know, in France, the people holding pink signs and dancing to Abba are the anti-gay protestors."
The majority is still in favor of gay marriage. These people were bused in from small towns.
[quote]about as comfortable with two men fucking as the state of Kentucky is.
Trying to believe yourself as liberal, yet you forget that women want the right to marry other women.
As for the whining about Europe by other posters, note that police tear gassed the anti gay protesters.
Funny, R15, Spain and Portugal are doing fine with equal marriage.
R21, mighty in comparison to the 30 that either give no recognition or outright BAN it. But yes, those two and six others allow marriage.
I am merely saying that for as large as the US is, we are evolving on these issues incredibly fast, comparatively. And I believe our pockets of extremism are proportionally smaller. I cannot imagine 300k people showing up anywhere in any city to form the same protest in the US. Thoughts?
Trust DL to try and blame a riot by a 99% white mob on their muslim population. The muslims don't have much power in France.
Having spent 2 years of grad school in Paris, I always laugh when I hear Americans spew that "liberal bastion" shit about France. R9 has the right idea, it's a country dominated by Catholic doctrine and machismo. That boor DSK has a lot of supporters and could have become president if the American case hadn't made it impossible.
Spain and Portugal were much more welcoming of gay marriage.
I'm surprised that the Religious Reich is so well organized in France. No doubt, the morbidly obese Maggie Gallagher is jealous of their organizing abilities.
What's interesting is that no church in France would ever have to marry two same-sex people because their churches can't perform marriages. France has separation of church and state. Marriage contracts are the job of the government. The churches have frou-frou wedding ceremonies but if the couple wants to be legally married that has to be done by the local authorities, not a church.
r22, why try to blame the muslims? Have you even looked at the video and TV footage? Do you have French TV in your cable package? This is one thing you can't blame on immigrants from the colonies.
[quote]Trust DL to try and blame a riot by a 99% white mob on their muslim population. The muslims don't have much power in France.
I can't do anything but laugh when someone on this site tries to defend muslims, the same people who in many muslim countries execute gays.
Think before you defend people.
This is the country that came very close to electing Le Pen... the David Duke of the French. Europeans talk about racism in the US, but their nationalist movements are extreme. No one ever tells someone born and raised in the U.S. that they aren't American, yet most 'ethnically' French people will never accept a North African born in their nation as French. While I was in studying in France in the 90's, Le Pen and his group would dig up the graves of Jews and Africans because they didn't want their bodies in French soil.
R25, are you on fucking drugs or just not that bright? It was a purely observational statement; I was fucking there in January and witnessed an equally large protest that was full of White Europeans, Jews, Muslims, etc. The POINT was that it takes something like an unjust shared HATRED to bring these groups to agreement about something. FFS, let the larger themes and bigger questions wash over you instead of jumping on the "let's see who is being victimized!" bandwagon.
Oh, and R24, interesting you should ask but France 24 is part of my Sky Italia package so what kind of bullshit are you seeing that I am not?
My point is, r26, muslims are not driving this movement in France. Look at poor r7 hopelessly reaching for explanations as his idea of liberal France goes up in smoke. It just can't be the sophisticated and worldly Jean-Pierre or Marie. There has to be a Mohamed ochestrating that mess.
r29, Do you have Canal +, TF1, France 2 etc?
No, I have Euro news, Sky Intl, BBC Intl, etc, and then for French or French/ Arabic programming only France 24, TV5MONDE, 2 M Monde, Media 1 SAT. Pretty decent and covers intensely.
THE MUSLIMS ARE NOT HAPPY!
They're not happy in Gaza ..
They're not happy in Egypt ..
They're not happy in Libya ..
They're not happy in Morocco ..
They're not happy in Iran ..
They're not happy in Iraq ..
They're not happy in Yemen ..
They're not happy in Afghanistan ..
They're not happy in Pakistan ..
They're not happy in Syria ..
They're not happy in Lebanon ..
SO, WHERE ARE THEY HAPPY?
They're happy in Australia .
They're happy in Canada ....
They're happy in England ...
They're happy in France .....
They're happy in Italy ..
They're happy in Germany .....
They're happy in Sweden ..
They're happy in the USA .....
They're happy in Norway ..
They're happy in Holland ....
They're happy in Denmark .
Basically, they're happy in every country that is not Muslim
and unhappy in every
country that is!
AND WHO DO THEY BLAME?
Not their leadership.
THEY BLAME THE COUNTRIES THEY ARE HAPPY IN!
AND THEN; They want to change those countries to be like....
THE COUNTRY THEY CAME FROM WHERE THEY WERE UNHAPPY!
Excuse me, but I can't help wondering...
How damn dumb can you get?
Just because a country is secular and atheist, doesn't mean they are gay friendly or non-sexist. I don't know why people don't understand this.
That said almost 60% of French people support gay marriage- this is higher than the US support. Just because 300k people protest marriage equality doesn't mean they represent the public opinion on this. France has like 60 million people. Of course a fraction of the population might be bigots. I do think that maybe the opposition to gay marriage seems more in your face than say the UK. I didn't see mass protest when the UK proposed gay marriage.
sounds just like occupiers
anyone shit on a police car yet?
anybody raped yet?
France is nice for a visit.
I think Cuba is the last liberal hold-out.
[quote]No one ever tells someone born and raised in the U.S. that they aren't American, yet most 'ethnically' French people will never accept a North African born in their nation as French.
Thanks, R27. Good to know.
Barack Hussein Obama IS president of America.
They're still demonstrating in Paris over this, btw.
THE French Senate needs to hurry up and vote next month on this. These protests have eroded marriage equality support to the low 50s, whereas it was near 2/3 support a year ago. Why hasn't there been another marriage equality march to respond to this mess?
B...bbbbut France is so liberal and sophisticated.