I just don't don't see it anymore. Wish there had been a cure when I was a pizzaface.
Where do you live? I see it all the time amongst teenagers. I mean, teenage girls are much more sophisticated with makeup application than girls in the 90s or before, but boys don't cover up their zitty faces and they sure as hell aren't using the proper facial cleansers.
I was the only one in my high school to have it.
My parents would be like, "every teen has acne," but there wasn't any one else in my high school.
It definitely isn't as big an issue as it once was.
Skincare happened. Kids use it and for most it has the desired effect.
There are better products, plus guys are not afraid to use skin products anymore. I remember when I got my first zit at 13 in 1993, I freaked and my older sister's friend said, "What do you care? You're a guy." As if I shouldn't care about my appearance because of my sex. Unfortunately, my acne got really bad -- like cystic acne bad -- but I refrained from doing anything about it lest I be thought of as a girly-girl.
Needless to say, my pizza face did a damage to my self-esteem. Still, people reassured me that it would go away as soon as I grew up. But when I turned 18, nothing happened. Then 20, and still nothing. By 24 I had become frustrated and desperate 'cause it didn't seem to let up. I tried mail-order stuff like Murad and Proactiv, which didn't work for shit. Finally, I went to see a dermatologist and he put me on Accutane for five months and -- voilà! -- I was cured. Seriously, I haven't had a major breakout since, save for a white head once in a blue moon, but that goes away after a day or two.
Anyway, as I said before, more guys, even straight teens, are starting to take care of their skin. Even my one-year-older-than-me brother, who's a total man's man and used to eschew face wash, now moisturizes and uses sunblock. The stigma has been lifted.
High fructose corn syrup. Eat it, lose zits, gain 85lbs.
I see a lot of ads for that special Proactive Solution stuff these days, does it actually work? All we had when I was a teenager was Clearasil and my doctor always said you'd be just as well off using soap and water.
no r6, at least not in the sense it's advertised. It may help dry up zits but it does not get rid of acne scars like it says and clearasil is just as good for that.
I think there is still is a lot of acne, if not more. They have those xeno things now and the endless proactive commercials so they must be selling. My best friend's sister had hardcore cystic acne back in the 90's and had to take Accutane, which is heavy shit. I'm sure the first wave of Accutane lawsuits are being settled now and I bet they don't prescribe it as much. That one kooky guy went and brutally murdered his dermatologist because he said Accutane made him crazy.
Accutane was a godsend for me. It completely cured my acne with minimal side effects (chapped lips and hands -- that was about it). I didn't murder anyone.
I think the murder thing was fluky r8 and I don't believe that the guy was sane before he took the Accutane. It helped my friend's sister too. The biggest side effect was the Thalidimide like birth defects it could cause. The girl I knew had to take a pregnancy test every month and be on like 3 forms of birth control but I bet some people got knocked up anyhow.
Accutane cleared up the worst of my persistent cystic acne. I still break out sometimes, but it's nothing like it was before. As for side effects, my lips and eyes became permanently dry, so I now go through a ton of lip balm and eye drops. No big deal.
I had really bad acne as a teen (late 90s-early 00s). My mom made me use some herbal stuff which didn't work and didn't want me to use the prescription that did work.
I use Proactiv now, which works fairly well as long as you're consistent. I'm a woman and I've realized that hormonal birth control makes a difference too.
I have had persistent acne (I'm 30 now) and I am considering Accutane but am worried about the side effects.
What is the best skincare regimen? I wash with Cetaphil, then with a salycic acid wash, then tone and moisturize, but I still get breakouts.
It's not "what happened ever to".
It's what ever happened to.
You're new here, aren't you, R13?
Now if the skin care brands could focus their attention on a cure for pizza ass, that would be super.
Retin-A happened. A miracle for me.
I tried that Proactiv shit back in the 90's when Judith Light was the spokesperson, and it didn't do shit for me (and my acne was just mild). It was expensive, and there were too many time-consuming steps and you had to do it twice a day.
For me, the only thing that ever worked was Retin-A. Luckily, my acne was pretty much gone by the time I was 20.
Isn't Accutane rarely used now because of the dangerous side effects?
Feck off, R13.
Re: R13's post: Why are straight me so stupid?
I remember my mom finally called the family doctor and he said to scrub with Dial soap every day. Which is possibly the worst thing to do, since it's a deodorant soap and it's purpose is to BLOCK the pores.
I really don't know how I survived back then. Gay, bullied and acne. Oh, and no friends.
They're all on DNA altering drugs like Accutane, that weren't around when you were a teen.
[quote] Re: WHET to acne?
Good question OP, I was thinking the same a few days ago
Just last week I saw a tall, young woman who look like a model and was impeccably dressed, with horrible acne on her face. Seeing her from behind, you'd go: wow... seeing her from the front, you'd avert you gaze.
Then this morning, I was in my local cafe when a young woman walked in. There was something odd about her face. When I got closer I noticed she had a ton of white make-up on her cheeks to cover acne.
I noticed this in the early 90s. I lived in Manhattan and an HMV had opened in my neighborhood. I wasn't used to seeing so many teens in one place and was struck by their clear skin, lack of metal braces, lack of flat-chestedness and lack of disproportionate bodies (ie, no fat thighs on otherwise thin girls).
Birth control pills, liposuction and clear braces had arrived for the masses of teen girls. Even Asian girls were no longer flat chested.
I left out breast implants.
There was this new product called Ice-o-derm when I was a kid with acne. I got my period at age nine, along with acne. I had to try to deal with it myself, as my parents couldn't care less what happened to me.
I save my allowance and bought the Ice-o-derm and put it on my face. After three days, I had burns all over my face. On 4th of July. Oh god...I had to go to the family picnic looking like I held a cigarette lighter to my face. My cousins were delighted. I was called Fried Face for a couple of years after that.
Proactiv did wonders for me. I'm a male who had acne from 17 til 35. Nothing ever worked, and I didn't want to try accutane. I saw an infomercial with Brooke Shields and ordered the stuff. It cleared me up, with occasional breakouts. Now I psoriasis, but that's a whole other issue.
R4 A friend's son has had the same problem for 2-3 years. I feel so bad for him, his father refuses to pay for any kind of treatment. I begged his Mother to let me pay for it - just once. She said that it was fine and he would grow out of it. I mean I understand if its the cost but I'm sure these people can afford it..
and I would be glad to do it. I would consider it part of their healthcare.
I see where this is going.
The kid is handsome, very handsome and you recently ran into him at the gym, didn't you?
Not surprised, R24. Women often suffer from persistent or recurring acne well into adulthood due to hormone levels and fluctuations. Oral contraceptives can help.
I had fairly bad acne as a teen (mid 90s). I took Accutane for three months and have never had a problem since. My nephew (18) has acne now, but I guess Accutane is hard to get prescribed because of all the side effects. Too bad. A few months of dried skin versus a lifetime of acne?
I grew up in the dirty valley and most teens and young adults had acne(as did I). I moved to a beach town at 27 and no one had acne. I see maybe one in about 200 teens with bad skin. The air has to have something to do with it.
Treatment is not always effective, R32.
[quote]Accutane was a godsend for me. It completely cured my acne with minimal side effects (chapped lips and hands -- that was about it). I didn't murder anyone.
Same here. I freaked when I initially read the long lists of side effects (e.g. joint pain, weak bones, hair loss, decreased vision, hemorrhage of the gums, irritable bowel syndrome), I even read about the depression/suicidal/aggressive behavior. But the worst I got was dry mouth/lips/skin. I really invested in lip balm and moisturizer.
[quote]Isn't Accutane rarely used now because of the dangerous side effects?
True, it's only available now in the generic version, Isotretinoin, but it still works.
BTW: I also had to get my blood tested every month for the 5-month duration. This is to keep a track of the patient's cholesterol and triglyceride levels, because the ingredients in Accutane have the possibility of raising both to unhealthy levels.
I had it bad as a teenager and early college and went on 2 doses of Accutane. I was a bit suicidal my freshman year in college when I was taking it but I don't know that it was related.
I still get zits in my late 30's and have a huge one below my jaw right now
r40 and others who took Accutane, they had an episode of "True Life" called I have acne or something like that. Did you guys see it? The one girl wanted to be a model but she had horrible cystic acne and I'm sure it was made worse by the pancake makeup applied to it. I forget what the treatment was but she did some kind of laser thing that didn't work. She was skinny and had big boobs but not a great face, even if she didn't have acne. There was also a goth kid who ate shittily but insisted his broke mom pay for expensive treatments, which I don't remember working all that great, I think he then went on Accutane. There was a last girl who pretty much knew right away to not fuck with any other treatments and went straight to Accutane, I think it worked. It was a good episode and I felt bad for the kids.
My daughter used accutane for about three months about 12 years ago. She was recently diagnosed with End Stage Reanl Disease which her docs think may well bave been caused by the accutane.
[quote]Accutane was a godsend for me. It completely cured my acne with minimal side effects (chapped lips and hands -- that was about it).
Accutane froze my nephew's growth plates. He probably lost 3-4 inches in height to it.
I think you don't see as much acne now because my niece and nephew and all their friends go to dermatologists who prescribe things. No Clearasil for them!
Also, as a teen, I used cocoa butter to try to make my hyperpigmentation scars fade, but neither I nor anyone else in my family seemed to realize that was the worse thing to use.
R45, I'm sorry.
I wish you and your daughter the best.
R39 Of course not, but damn they could let the kid have a chance. He was always a fun kid and now he is depressed, stays at home, and when he is around people he refuses to have his picture taken or let people touch him.
Tell the kid to go raw vegan, R49. It might not work - but it might.
Accutane killed my acne completely. Thank God. I took it in the mid 80s when it was still fairly new on the market.
Side effects I had were periodic nose bleeds and drier skin/chapped lips.
One of the best things I ever did. Improved my self esteem so much.
I live in Southern California now and don't see acne on teens here. It's not like I hang out in places where teens congregate, but when I do see teens, I don't notice any acne. Hadn't thought about that until this thread.
Wonder if there is an ethnic connection to acne? Lots of Hispanics and Asians living in SoCal. And they don't seem to have acne. Is acne primarily associated with white Caucasians?
I have an upsetting breakout of acne on my face at the moment, most likely due to recent work stresses taking up my time and energy. Luckily I have a large uncut dick and thick bubble butt to boost my self esteem.
r51 I am from San Diego and there was much clear skin there. My mom called it "surfer's skin" from the saltwater and sun. I remember meeting a girl from the East Coast that was really impressed with my skin in the 90's and she mentioned the surfer's skin too.
The magic ingredient in that expensive ProActive crap is benzol peroxide, which you can get much cheaper over the counter. It's VERY strong stuff. If your skin can tolerate it (mine never could) then it will really clear up your acne, unless you're a special case. I think only Accutane can do anything for cystic acne, which is horrible. Acne cysts take MONTHS to go away, unless you go to a dermalogist and have the cyst injected with cortisone.
R54, would cortisone injections work on subcutaneous cysts? I have 3 that I need to have removed, but I'd prefer a less invasive option for treatment.
R48, thank you so much. I am touched by that.
Can someone explain the origin of WHET and what it stands for again for us newbies?
R57, WHET stands for Whatever Happened To (WEHT), but someone mistakenly put the H before the E. It's become a meme. At least on here. "pron" is another misspelled word/acronym. It's supposed to be "porn."
Thanks, R58. I've been wondering that for awhile (usually during Primetime). That clears up a lot!
R45: End stage renal disease from a 3-month course of Accutane 12 years ago? What is the connection?
"would cortisone injections work on subcutaneous cysts? I have 3 that I need to have removed, but I'd prefer a less invasive option for treatment"
I don't know for certain, but I don't think so. You should see a dermatologist to know for certain what needs to be done. As for acne cysts, they disappear in a few days after being injected with cortisone. Back when I had them that was the only way to get rid of them quickly.
Op, I'm a 32 year old from L.A. and I've never really seen a lot of cystic/serious acne even as I was growing up. I myself suffer from moderate acne. Add in some slight roseacea that I have on my cheeks and large pores and my skin always looks like crap.
As R54 says, ProActive is Benzoyl Peroxide and can be gotten much cheaper. It's interesting to know that BP is actually banned in Europe. I think it's been linked to skin cancer or something like that so I try to stay away from it even though it's the most effective.
The bacteria that causes acne is notoriously hard to kill. I've been prescribed antibiotics, Differin, and benzoyl peroxide, and it works for a while, then the acne comes back with a rage. At this point I've just learned to live with it but it still sucks.
OP, you must live in a seniors community in Florida. Come to DC if you want to see zit-faced monsters.
Retin-A is good, it sounds like it's like Accutane in that it dries out your skin well but it's topical and not as toxic. There's RX strength BP called Benzac I think, it's prescription but a tube lasts a long time for someone who doesn't have really bad breakouts. I think salicylic acid is weak and doesn't work that well but it could just be me.
Jeez, I was just making a comment about how there aren't so many zitty people and I am getting bombarded with the best acne treatments. They must think I am a pimply geek.
I stopped eating wheat and sugar. Zits and oily skin are completely gone. Skin is actually dry now, need lots of moisturizer.
Background: Breakouts since age 8, 2 courses of Accutane that didn't completely fix cystic acne. Was sprouting a new fat zit every day, minimum.
Might not work for you, but I'm pretty satisfied.
Do you still do dairy R66?
I'm from the Caribbean and we certainly did nto have access to these products you speak of. I didnt have BAD acne but I did get some pimples, I even had one deep in my nose that was exacerbated by a bad sunburn. My solution? I busted them. I did it carefully though, I felt where the exit would most likely be with my finger and then I used tissue on both index fingers which I used to *push* and not squeeze the pimple's content from the base. I did it slowly and gently and the stuff would just squirt out on the mirror, followed by some blood which I wiped with the tissue. I would wash it with a medicated and drying soap called Septol. I would have a dark mark on my face for 2 days but I would use the septol soap only on that area when I came home from school. It would dry out the top layers of skin and it would peel off after 2 days. Same thing happened with the nose pimple, a whole set of puss and blood came out and that was the worst pimple or acne I ever had. And my face is clear, SMOOTH with no crater marks or scars.
Five months of Accutane cleared mine. Only side effects were dry mouth, skin, and gums. I occasionally get a zit, but it's rarely cystic. If a cystic one pops up I use Enessa's clove oil product. It works wonders. Zit comes to a head within a couple of days, and no scars are left. Genius.
Another vote for Pro-Activ. Had a consistent problem with acne from 16-35 and after just using the facial wash and moisturizing I haven't had a problem in 13 years.
Isotretinoin did wonders for me when no other treatment - OTC or prescription - worked. The only side effect was chapped lips.
All ProActiv was good for was making acne prone skin dry, red, itchy and scaly while still having breakouts. Worst stuff ever.
I never had bad acne like some people here did but in my 30's, I had acne that sort of wouldn't go away, like just under the surface stuff. My dermatologist put me on accutane and said its the only thing that can really work (and again, i didn't have bad acne at all). I was on the lowest dosage and while it did dry me out for a while (carry chapstic!), it also got rid of EVERY zit I ever had and I haven't had a break out in 2 years. And I didn't have any side effects either, though it's pretty hard core when you go on it. You need to sign up officially, and then your name gets added to a database and you must have your liver checked each month with a blood test. My dermatologist is a big deal in his field and said that the side effect of depression and suicidal really isn't true. He's published papers on it and feels that people that go on accutane are likely very depressed because of the shape of their skin, and often accutane is their last hope. And since it takes a few months to really kick in (though you will notice clearing within a week to 10 days) he feels people that have killed themselves were already very depressed.
R 60: The doctors can find absolutely no cause for her kidney failure, no underlying disease such as lupus or diabetes. Her kidney function is non-existent and they believe that would have taken 6-10 years though we had no idea that was happening. Given that time frame and lack of underlying disease, they have discussed the accutane as a possible cause. Accutane has been linked to kdney disease though that is not one of the most common side effects. It is nothing that can be proven nor is anyone trying to do that. It is the opinion of the docs at Cleveland Clinic, where she is a patient, that accutane is a distinct possibility.
I am sorry about your daughter r60, but I am not at all surprised see my posts at r7 and r9. The fact that toxicity had to be tested every month was just the starter. Accutane scares me, I wonder if their will be a new wave of Accutane thalidimide babies. I guarantee that your daughter's case is not isolated, just not everyone will connect the dots.
Dudes realized that all they had to do was starting washing their face and they wouldn't have to wait till college to get laid.
R75, I washed my face religiously in high school, but I still had pretty bad acne. What's weird is, as an adult I'm constantly complimented on my "perfect" skin. The only thing I do differently is stick to milder products and not try a different facial cleanser every other month. I'm also willing to swear by Murad products...they've seemed to work the absolute best.
this thread is useless without dr vikram yadav's pimple popping videos
I previously bought cheap Retin-A from a Mexican online pharmacy about 5 years ago after someone on DL posted a link, but I no longer have it. Maybe someone else will help.
I am from San Diego and used to go to TJ to get Retin-A. I guess you can call a San Ysidro doc and get it. Or National City.
Go see a dermatologist and don't depend on over-the-counter drugs. Retin-A has serious side effects that will show much later in life after even just a short period of usage. Dermatologists know how to deal with acne wounds professionally and will lessen risks of scarring and bad cuts that you think will continue to go unnoticed. And consider long-term maintenance instead of temporary solutions that seem to be quick and cheap, but risky.
I had moderate acne in the early to mid 80's.My parents took me to a dermatologist who gave me euythromicin (sp?) The antibiotic worked for me and cleared it all up. I still scrubbed and scrubbed and used Clearasil which probably aggravated things. Popped a lot of pimples until they took me to the doc.
Agree with r85. No reason for a anyone to have to deal with acne these days. Dermatologists can fix it.
I understand that one of the many problems from Accutane use is hair loss, a female friend's hair is now permanently thinner due to using this medication.
Of course, there are the reproductive problems also associated with Accutane. I don't know if that applies to both men and women. Many gay men want to be fathers, so that's something to think about when using Accutane.
There are so many different treatments for acne today, find a reputable dermatologist, don't diagnose yourself. In most instances you don't need the strongest acne meds, oral or topical antibiotics, topical benzoyl peroxide and salicyclic acid cleansers are sometimes all it takes to clear up acne.
Mild acne doesn't need to be treated with Accutane, I would question a derma who prescribes Accutane for mild acne.
Doctors used to accuse us of being dirty when we had pimples. "You need to wash your face more often." They told us we were eating too many fried foods, drinking too much soda and eating too many sweets. If you told them you didn't eat those foods, they would laugh and wink -- they KNEW you really were eating those foods and that you were a pig who never washed your face (meanwhile, you were living on pasta and vegetables and washing your face 5 times a day).
Blackheads? "That's DIRT! Look at it! That's dirt on your skin. It's because you don't wash and all that bad food makes oil on your face and the oil traps the dirt!"