- That is beyond bad.
Marie was beautiful though.
- Wow, those state-of-the-art computer graphics in the intro are a thrill ride.
What the hell are the first and third images that emerge from the purple horizon? Inkblot nightmares? Flowers? Probably, but why?
- She looks better with her hair pulled back. The look is 100% better than her usual look.
- Isn't it about time she adopted another baby?
- The choreography in that number is not bad, actually.
- In that video, she seems like a very talented 16 year old at the school talent show... and just as sexy.
I met her once at a convention. She had the big hair and makeup plastered on with trowel. Later that evening I ran into her in the elevator. She was wearing jeans, a t-shirt, hair pulled back, and no makeup. She was quite beautiful. I guess she knows what her audience wants and she gives it to them.
- Whenever I see clips like that, I always want to know what the background dancers are doing today. The shelf life for a background dancer must be fairly short so where do they go from there? Do they work a variety show circuit? Playboy? Playgirl? And yes, we all know JLo's start as a dancer but what about the rest?
I still want to WHET the two background dancers from Madonna's Dress You Up live concert video.
- She gave me nightmares when I was young.
- That dress in that clip is beautiful.Is that dress Bob Mackie? Yes, I agree, she does look fantastic in that clip. R7, a lot of those guys are probably dead from getting AIDS. I remember there was a poster on a thread around a year ago who said he used to be a background dancer and he said most of those guys on many of those variety shows died of AIDS.
- This duet redeems the whole sick, twisted series.
Andy Gibb was supposed to play the male lead in Xanadu, and he would have been way better on the soundtrack than Cliff Richard.
Did he ever perform (or lip-sync) this song with Olivia? I think not!
- Marie's version of "9 to 5" below.
Did she change the lyric to "glass of ambition" because Mormons don't drink coffee?
- It's always been glass of ambition r11, to rhyme with "kitchen". Stumble out of bed and stumble to the kitchen, pour myself a glass of ambition.
- It's CUP of ambition.
And Grant Goodeve in the clip!
- R12, it's CUP of ambition
- Lol r13, sorry, as soon as I posted I was telling myself that nobody has glasses of coffee..I'm an idiot.
My brother and I had Donny and Marie dolls when we were like 8 or so maybe. They had purple matching outfits, Marie's was a dress and Donny's a leisurey suit, satiny and cool. They also had microphones and maybe even a tape of their "hits".
- I'm sure most of those back-up dancers (male) are long dead.
- I know people like her here but I've always found her unbearable. She just comes across as brash and phony in a way I don't respond well to.
- She does r17 and I don't like her now but as a kid her show with Donny was the thing to do on Sunday night! She doesn't bug me as much as the chanteuses from the OTHER Mormon family. I would like to punch Debby Boone right in her lifestyle lifted face because I can't take that song anymore.
- Just LOOK at her. You can tell right away that she's going to have a lesbian daughter in 6 years.
- Her and me both r19...
- She is doing her very best to sound exactly like OLJ in that number at R10.
Marie has no voice of her own.
- Oh please Marie had a voice of her own. Youtube, googl, her recordings & her voice lazy ass. ONJ wasn't the only singer at that time you silly fag
- Back then this was a standard, almost prerequisite "star-lifting/diva trouncing leaping chorus boys" number, and it was actually done in an above average way. The kind of number Candice Bergen ("CANDY") and Merrill Streep would spoof in SNL and 'Death Becomes Her' respectively.
Barbara Mandrell, Diana Ross, and Cher.
- There should be a thread with just clips of numbers like these from the 60's/70's/80's where the tough, sexed-up star walks and leans on subservient chorus boys who carry her all through the number.
90's pop princesses who can actually dance but are too wasted to do so need not apply.
Gimmee Gimmee that Gimmick
- I can't believe Andy Gibb did himself in.
- R22, your Marie dolls are coated in dust and grease.
Really, can you tell her voice apart from... I don't know, anybody's?
Filty, urine-soaked liar.
- I always forget how beautiful Andy Gibb was--Marie looked like a frump next to him.
I hated Marie's first metamorphosis during the D&M run. I remember my 12-year-old self gagging over this gushing promo:
- Those teeth could take over the planet.
- This will blow your mind.
Marie's take on Billy Joel's "It's Still Rock and Roll to Me."
Love what her production team thought was a "punk"look.
- Ha, r29! That is too funny. It's like the 80's movies "punks" who always wore an ear cuff that was referred to by the good girl's parents as an earring. Like it would be so fucking hard to have a fake hoop or stud earring to go WITH the cuff. And the green hairspray streaks with the ripped jeans. I think I had one of those lightning bolt sweatshirts, it wasn't punk and I was an 8 year old girl. It looks like Nigel's sweatshirt that his lame girlfriend made him in Spinal Tap.
- More horrors: Donny and Marie's cover of "Reelin' in the Years" by Steely Dan.
- R29 she looks like Bride of Frankenstein.
- The Bride of Frankenstein, only crossed with a sculpted rendition of a lotus blossom.
- The Osmonds had built that huge, state of the art studio closer to home in Utah, to film all their future million dollar endeavors. Except... it didn't happen. Their popularity tanked as music and TV changed. So they ended up renting the facility out to other performers.
- She must have been costumed by devout Muslims. She's covered neck to toe albeit in shiny stretchy fabrics. It's reminiscent of how Janet Jackson Rhythm Nation videos were the only female centric videos allowed in the Middle East during the first Gulf War because she was similarly attired.
- I know someone who recently was her assistant - they come and go very often because no one can take the crazy. Her main job was to make sure that Marie kept to her pill regimen - "health stuff" sprinkled with prescription fortifiers, amounting to buckets of pills in the course of a day. That and making sure Marie was never alone, and that she was kept cheerful.
She said that Marie is not a bad person or anything. She wants to be a nice person. But she's an absolutely out-of-it lunatic with more fits and spells than a state hospital.
- Dear Webbie,
I travel all over Europe and have access to literally hundreds of IP addresses.
Trying to ban or block me will only make it worse.
I am harmless.
Get over yourself.
- Variety shows failed because they couldn't get the best singers to do them. A good famous singer is too busy with their recording and concert career to host a weekly tv show, so instead you get hacks like Marie. And she just couldn't sing well enough to keep people interested in turning in every week.
- R21 I felt she was channeling OLJ also, but all I could do was look at Andy Gibb and think "what a shame".
- It's like a slightly hipper Lawrence Welk Show, big surprise it flopped.
- WHO THE FUCK IS OLJ?????
- I don't know r41. My close friends (like Karen Carpenter) called me ONJ, not OLJ.
- Olivia Lewton John
- [quote]Variety shows failed because they couldn't get the best singers to do them. A good famous singer is too busy with their recording and concert career to host a weekly tv show, so instead you get hacks like Marie.
The variety show was an incredibly successful television genre in the 1960s and 1970s. Ed Sullivan, Jackie Gleason, Carol Burnett, Lawrence Welk, Bob Hope, Perry Como, Dinah Shore, Andy Williams, Julie Andrews, John Denver, Mac Davis, Sonny and Cher, Bobby Goldsboro, Tony Orlando and Dawn, Flip Wilson, the King Family, The Captain & Tennille, Barbara Mandrell and the Mandrell sisters, and, yes, Donny and Marie (with their first show) brought in millions and millions and millions of viewers.
- R32 R33 More like Ursula from The Little Mermaid.
- Marie you've done some changing Marie some rearranging
I still remember the promos from when I was a kid.
- And they ultimately failed, r45. Get with the times, especially since they'd only require you to be current with 33 years ago.
- There were many ways you could land a show, most of which had to do with comedic talent or charisma. But no, you couldn't be a pop star charting hits while doing a variety show.
Most of them who were recording stars (Tony Orlando, Sonny & Cher, Donny & Marie, Captain & Tenille, hell, even the Jacksons as a single act) did their variety shows after they stopped charting. That subset of pop variety stars who gave good TV later found a better, less stressful and more commercial venue to stardom - through videos.
"One hit wonders" Tracey Ullman and Vicky Lawrence
- Dear Webbie,
I travel all over Europe and have access to literally hundreds of IP addresses.
Trying to ban or block me will only make it worse.
I am harmless.
Get over yourself.
- By that logic ALL shows ultimately fail, r48.
What a stupid line of argument.
- So Marm, you're impervious to harm from the WM. Fine, then why not just post and ignore him? These taunting posts are unnecessary and clutter up the board. I've seen about 5 of them in the last few hours, so you must've made 10 or more.
- The genre failed, dear, and they failed a very, very long time ago. And only dorks with horrible taste in music miss them.
- the Judy Garland tribute.
- If only you keep repeating the exact same argument over and over again, maybe other people will think you're really important and serious!
- R29, WOW! That is really scary! Oh My Gosh!
When I was a little kid we used to watch The Donnie and Marie show religiously. Now The Donnie and Marie show reminds me of variety shows I see when I channel surf passing the Chinese and Japanese stations with a male and female singing duo and having similar hair styles. I remember we used to watch Sha Na Na religiously as well around that time.Does anyone remember that show? They used have a 50s theme and have guest singers singing 50s and early 60s music and they would have little skits. I think it was one of the better shows in the late 70s and early 80s as far as variety shows.
- Now the link in R54 is very good on Marie. That outfit can be worn today because it's very simple and not trendy.
- I remember watching this show when it was on and I always associated it with Christmas. It premiered on December 12th. Ahh.
- r57, many of Marie's outfits are still extremely relevant to fashion today--many women today would look very hip in them:
- More Marie demonstrating her continued fashion relevance--while rockin' it to Phil Spector by making her own Wall of Sound with Donny:
- Her 'punk' look is Ursula from 'The Little Mermaid'
Marie was a knockout in that clip, to look at.
Here is one of my favourite variety show medleys.
Eydie Gorme and Carol Burnett singing songs from the movies.
There will be sequins and jazz hands and cornyness but also some spectacular singing, gentle harmonies and humour and a pow finish!
- True R45, and also certainly popular earlier than the 1960s.
- Damn, Ruth Buzzie sp? made a career out of appearing as a guest star in all those shows.
- Wow...who knew Utah produced so much cheese?
- I remember when Mac Davis' wife Sarah ran off with Glen Campbell.
- I took a friend who loved Donny and Marie to their Christmas Show a couple of years ago expecting to be treated to a campy Vegas lounge act. But they both came off so well, real pros, and Marie really surprised me when she came out and did the opera number. I had no idea she could sing like that.
- Back to the fascinating mess that was the "Marie" variety program:
Here, the head-to-toe spandex returns, along with the silver boots, in a tribute to Pat Benatar.
- R61, see R46
- Donny was a hottie back then too. He seems kind of douchey now and his good looks as teen just don't translate well into adulthood, imo
Marie is pretty but her lips are looking pretty bad recently. I wonder if that messes with a singer's ability to sing, when their lips are practically immobile and overstuffed.
- Marie does Diana Ross's "I'm Coming Out" in the first scene of the first show:
Again with the not-bad choreography (I'm a fan of the fist-bump shimmy at 3:14).
- Oops. Correct link here:
- Too much plastic surgery. I remember when I saw her on Oprah talking about her dead son, the one who committed suicide, I thought she looked like a Kewpie/Sex Doll.
- I was never a big fan of Donny and Marie and their "Goin' Coconuts" shtick... but the absolute worst was that phony little twerp Jimmy. Ugh.
- OH. MY. STARS.
- "Broadway Medley":
- Everyone was so skinny...no Quarter Pounders with cheese.
- Marie must have particularly thin, R77. Her makeup added about 20 lbs.
- It was never cool to say so, but I always worshipped the Osmonds in the '70s. They were all very talented (save Little Jimmy). I played The Osmonds' Crazy Horses constantly. Donny had Puppy Lover, Marie had Paper Roses. I was in heaven everytime they sang.
My brothers could keep their Led Zeppelin and Peter Frampton shit and stuff it up their backsides. My sisters had their ABBA and K.C. & The Sunshine Band and those were okay. I always thought The Osmonds deserved a lot more respect. I think it was their youth that made everyone think they were a kiddy bubble gum act. They were awesome and I stand by that forever.
- R79 I sincerely hope you're joking.
- I remember Marie performing Ozzy's "Crazy Train" and The Runaways' "Cherry Bomb" on an episode and I can't find those clip anywhere. I know I did not imagine it.
- R81 If you didn't dream it, you were in an L.S.D. induced hallucination. She never performed those songs LOL. It would have been interesting to see. She did perform T-d N-gent's "Wang Dang Sweet Poontang" though (just kidding).
- I remember an article in TV GUIDE after MARIE was canceled - her mother Olive was pissing and moaning saying, "I should never have let them to that to my little girl [presumably she meant NBC or whatever network it was on]. I knew it wouldn't work and was just the wrong way to go."
All I could think was - if it had been a hit, I am sure the old hag would have taken all the credit for the "new" Marie and been one of its biggest boosters!
The Osmonds re-invent themselves once a decade. I they are very talented and relentless. We are stuck with them until they die.
- My young life in the '70s was dominated by the music of The Osmonds and The Jackson 5. I think almost all gay men had a thing for them. It's part of our DNA. A lot of people don't like to admit it, but face it, it's true.
- R84 Not this gay man. I loathed the Osmonds with a raging intensity. I thought the Jackson 5 sucked ass too. My youth music in the '70s was Kiss, Zeppelin, Pink Floyd, Boston, The Stones, T.Rex, Heart, Styx and Aerosmith.
David from Missouri
- R84 - Uh, no. Just no. I hated the Osmonds and the Jacksons. Both were acts for little kids and little old shut-in ladies.
- I think Marie was far more talented than the rest of her siblings. She could have had Olivia Newton-Lesbian's career if she had chosen to do so.
- R87 Or, if she had really changed her image, she could have had Wendy O. Williams' career. She would have looked great wielding a chainsaw on stage, wearing a loincloth, and with electrical tape covering her nipples.
She could have called her band the OSMATICS.
- Does anyone know who is the famous creep molested Marie when she was a little girl? Maybe that is why she acts the way she does as r36 described.
BTW, I never thought Donnie was hot. I once read on an online gossip website ,which was always on target with their gossip, claimed Donnie is in the closet.
- [quote]Does anyone know who is the famous creep molested Marie when she was a little girl?
It was one of her brothers, I always assumed.
- I didn't realize Marie was molested.
Back to Donnie. I thought he was very cute as teen until his early 20's.
I saw him on stage in Joseph and the Technicolor Dreamcoat years ago, he was shirtless and looked quite fine.
I think his face is better looking if he doesn't smile. Too toothy otherwise.
I don't think his boyish good looks work well for a man who is in his 50's. Baby faces just don't age well. Not that he looks old, per se, just that his face didn't gain much with maturity.
Marie, was very pretty. A bit too plastic now, but very pretty. My thought when looking at all these old clips of her was that I can remember back in the day, before The Donnie and Marie show, that she was considered to be a little bit chubby. But when I see those shows, she is very thin. Was our sense of fat/thin really different back then?
- I'm utterly fascinated by the revelation that 'the dazzling new Marie' had a show of her own in 1980. I really had no idea! Interesting that they really did try to separate her from her past by introducing her simply as "Marie," and not Marie Osmond.
She likely could have had a much bigger career if her ridiculous Mormonism hadn't prevented her from playing Sandy in Grease, but then, the movie might not have been the massive hit that it was without Olivia Newton John in that role. Marie could have made that movie a massive bomb.
I had a friend who worked on the daytime Donny & Marie talkshow in the 90's, yet another reinvention that went nowhere, and he said that Donny & Marie were truly as nice and kind and as sweet as could be.
And people have always questioned Donny & Marie's talent but they have a very long contract in residence in Las Vegas, and are making millions from it, and they did a Christmas show here in LA this past year which opened to AMAZING reviews. People were somewhat blown away by what good singers they both are and said they could and should have had bigger singing careers.
- r89 You don't even have to qualify why you say it, this is DL, everyone is gay/closeted.
- [quote] don't think his boyish good looks work well for a man who is in his 50's. Baby faces just don't age well.
- Holy shit, is that Robby Benson?
- I worked and toured with the osmonds back in the early 70's so have actual first hand insight (fwiw). They really ARE that wholesome and they pretty much have all gone through some pretty tough personal tragedy. Life was not easy for them and Marie wasn't naturally that thin....
And sorry, in my opinion Donny is not gay. He was with his wife from the time they were teens. Never saw any indication in any of them, although I would say that obviously there were tour people who were. And a nice percentage of the teens who mobbed them in every city were gay. Even back then Marie gravited toward them in the meet and greets where the guys, eh not so much although polite to all. Marie was in her element with them.
That family was tight, religious, and didn't have much personal freedom. With the mobs of teens everywhere (and grown creepy people) there always had to be tight security.
- This begs the question; when was "The Old Marie"?
- With Scott Baio.
- Before the variety show, she did a sitcom pilot for ABC, also called [italic]Marie[/italic] (1979). Not surprisingly, it didn't get picked up. Worth watching for the camp factor, though.
- I despise that fame-whoring fucking gash.
- R99 - Thanks!
- That sitcom is awful. If she's from Nebraska why is the shrill M.O. trying a sort of Noo Yawk accent? I've never heard of that accent rubbing off on anyone; you have to be born with it.
- R102 - But it's so awful, it's funny.