“Archaeological bog discoveries in Ireland have corroborated the “sughaim sine” practice in another of its aspects. The subjects of ancient Irish king’s ritually and routinely demonstrated their submission by sucking on their ruler’s nipples - some believe perhaps in a nursing, group or perhaps erotically intended way. It is theorized that there may have been royal reception days when the king exposed his nipples for his “court” in order to facilitate sucking for a large group. In a potentially more macabre element, there appears to have been power games in the nipple hierarchy. Cutting off a royal descendant’s nipples made him ineligible for kingship. Not as subtle as poison, but undeniable evidence of his unsuitability for a kingly role.
No nips, game over.”
Top o' the nipple to you, Paddy!
Nipples to the day, Mickey!
A particularly succulent example of this fluidity is perhaps exemplified in the adjunctive early Irish practice of homosocial nipple-sucking or what today can be called “sughaim sine”.
This typically male act stood for many things in the pagan culture of the times.
In one aspect, it was used as a way to pledge loyalty, devotion and submission for a king.
Among common men, it was an expression of friendship, greeting, reconciliation, affection, fealty, protection and not surprisingly, as some sources suggest, sexual stimulation and pleasure.
This is incredible. I've never heard of it!
It's amazing what has been pushed underground by the modern paradigms we unconsciously adhere to. We are so imbalanced, it's true.
"While Ireland was still a pagan culture, Christianity was taking hold in Europe and North Africa. Christian philosophy increasingly taught that all sexual ways were physically harmful and that sexual abstention was the wisest course. But the tradition of 'special friends' and the importance of love, physicality, affection and sexual expression did not die out. It was an essential part of the culture. An old Celtic saying holds, 'A person without a soul friend is like a body without a head.'"
Antiquity was replete with acts or behaviours that many today would say are gay or perverted when back then it was normal. This is nothing new. The more modern a society gets the more stringent it becomes. Masculinity in the past wasn't as narrowly defined as it is today.
Seriously, is this a joke or for real??
Was it universal through Irish culture at the time, or was it just how one king liked to do things?
Me thinks somebody has mistranslated "blow job" as "nipple sucking."
They did that with the bible where closing a deal with handjobs was routine but it was presented as "putting his hand under his thigh" in the English translations.
"The practice is also referenced mythologically within the tale of King Fergus mac Leite. Lore says that the King, after returning to his own land, falls asleep on the coast near the sea. Small people appear who carry the king without his sword into the water. It might be inferred that they want to abduct him to their own ‘land’ under water. This ‘foreign’ invasion threatens the king and thereby the land. When his bare feet become wet and cold, however, he awakens in time and grabs three of them. In order to save themselves they offer a pact, which is introduced by a ritualistic exchange of words and is sealed by the mutual, prolonged sucking of nipples. Thanks to this agreement, the king receives a charm with which he can survive under water - a kind of ‘passport’ to travel in the ‘foreign’ lands under the waves and is forever nipple-bonded to the small men."
Want to hear more about "closing a deal with handjobs."
Me too, r28. Would this be an Aramaic, Greek, or Hebrew custom?