Are the members of Pussy Riot going to die in prison?
What do the people of Russia think about their crime...and punishment.
Only two members of Pussy Riot are currently in prison, they were each sentenced for 2 years for "hooliganism and spreading religious hatred".
I don't think that they're going to rot in jail. They'll continue to fight the decision in the Supreme Court. Less famous member of Pussy Riot, Yekaterina Samutsevich was released on probation. Plus, plenty of Russian celebrities have already submitted requests for an early release. So, it's not that hopeless. I have bunch of friends who support Pussy Riot, but also those who are so out of touch that they trust in Putin. Meanwhile, Putin has given his mistress (Kabaeva) unbelievable presents - Luzhniki Stadium and big Vremena Goda shopping mall. He's an enormously influential dictator.
Russia is a dying country. Alcoholism, ramped drug usage, suicides, low birth rates. It's become an aggressive society and fairly anti-everything as a result
How long before they start invading again?
Feel free to ask me anything.
Their homophobia alone is enough to make me keep away from that country forever.
There was a thread a while back about how homophobic Russian soldiers were, yet gay sex and gay rape were common.
Apparently hazing causes a large number of young soldiers, gay and straight, to commit suicide.
Enjoy their incredible enormous statue "The Motherland Calls" before it topples.
Hookup with Russian men only if you are in the mood for crazy. They are insane and seem to like to humiliate their sex partners.
Everytime I read about gay opression in Russia I get more and more confused because when I was working in St. Petersburg (summer 2006) I used to go to the gay clubs all the time and even the taxi drivers knew exactly where they were. Going in and out was no secretive operation, it was pretty fun AND cruisy inside(back rooms etc, and I never encountered bashing or hatred upon exiting.
There were two that I knew of - one poofey (with baroque decor and blouse queens) and one grungy (warehouse, dark, dungeony, with mostly t-shirts or no shirts).
Cabs would be lined up (like in NYC) in front to pick up patrons leaving late at night - and by late at night I mean the bright light of day since 4 AM in the summer in St. Petersburg shines as bright as any church Sunday morning.
Plus - right in front of the big Cathedral there was a strip bar that started with girls then switched to boy go-go dancers, for an entirely mixed crowd's enjoyment, with music pumping till the wee hours.
RUSSIAN GIRL, Have things changed since 2006? Is there any gay scene in St. Petersburg these days?
[quote] Russia is a dying country. Alcoholism, ramped drug usage, suicides, low birth rates.
Don't forget racist and bigoted! There are a MULTITUDE of white supremacist groups in Moscow, just waiting to pounce on gypsies, blacks, jews, browns, and anyone else who isn't Slavic.
Russia is a disgusting country, and completely deserving of its collapse.
I wonder if older Russians secretly long for the law-and-order Soviet days, when the criminal fuckery was kept under firm control. I suspect I would.
I've been to St Petersburg twice, and yes it's a very beautiful, historic city, very much a different atmosphere than Moscow. I've done a lot of touristy things and, honestly saying, have no idea about the gay scene in St. Pete. I have a gay friend who works at an Australian Embassy in Moscow. Everyone at the Embassy seems to know that he's gay, and they spread nasty rumors about him. Even his family don't want to talk to him because of his sexual orientation. Russians are very closed minded people. Anti-Americanism continues to thrive in Russia. My foul-mouthed cousin once said: "Americans are stupid". Nothing has changed since the Cold War.
I admire Vladimir Pozner, who is a popular Russian TV host. He has spent his childhood in NY. His book 'Parting with Illusions' is not only great but also sincere and smart; I highly recommend this book. He supports gay marriage, and simply cannot wait to move back to US.
As a NYer, I only with that fucking wall was still up.
Is Vladimir Putin secretly bisexual?
Hi Russian Girl! Thanks for posting.
Forgive me that my questions are so ignorant. :)
What are some of the things that you wish Russia had? Fresher food in the grocery store? Designer jeans?
Are you allowed to leave the country to travel whenever and wherever you want?
[quote]What are some of the things that you wish Russia had? Fresher food in the grocery store? Designer jeans?
[quote]Are you allowed to leave the country to travel whenever and wherever you want?
Pinko, things haven't been like you're imagining since the USSR was dissolved in 1991. Russia is now dripping in new money and luxury goods (and corruption and crime). And yes, they can travel freely now. It's not the Cold War anymore.
[quote] Russia is now dripping in new money and luxury good
Well, Moscow is.
I'm well aware that Mother Russia has had a massive economic boom, yet our DL Russian Girl who is living in Russia just said nothing changed since the cold war. I'm asking her to share details about life from POV of the average citizen so I can get a picture of Russia's middle class.
[quote] Russia is a dying country. Alcoholism, ramped drug usage, suicides, low birth rates.
You wish it was dying. Russia's always been like that. In fact, it was worse. Russian men could beat and kill their wives with no consequence. Women were confined to a separate area of the house, like in Muslim cultures (since Russia had been conquered by Muslims). Children had no rights. Boyars coud kill any serfs on their land and could do it for fun. The tsars hired Cossacks to rape, pillage and destroy villages. The church was as powerful as the tsar and was mandatory. Sometimes tsars would plead for foreigners to come into Russia to populate villages and bring their skills, which the Russian peasantry didn't have. After a while the locals would start killing the foreigners and taking over their homes.
Russia -- good times.
[quote]Well, Moscow is.
Don't forget St. Petersburg.
If these were the SAT's:
Moscow: Washington, DC
St. Petersburg: New York City
[quote]Girl who is living in Russia just said nothing changed since the cold war
She was referring to social attitudes (bigotry, racism, etc). Plenty has changed in its economy, obviously.
Like China, loaded with peasants.
Russian Girl said that anti Americanism still thrives in Russia, but as we can see in this thread the feeling is mutual, Americans still don't like Russians either.
Anyway, I'd also like to know more about life in Russia so I'll keep an eye on this tread. But I'm interested in positive aspects, what's good about living in Russia today.
Greetings to all Slavic brothers and sisters on DL :)
I'm sorry if you got me wrong, fellow DL users. I was referring to social attitudes (chauvinism, homophobia, sexism et al.) These types of prejudice still exist in Russia today. Moscowians are well off, but people in other cities/suburbs live in the state of poverty. They can't even afford an iPhone. Their salaries are extremely low. Some of them don't have an access to the Internet. It's clear that corruption is a major problem in Russia. Wives/sons/daughters of well-known politicians are enjoying their jet-set lifestyle atm. They're wasting government's money on their yachts/designer bags instead of doing something useful. A lot of politicians are bisexual. It's one of many reasons why they're homophobic - they're afraid of getting caught. This girl, for example, is a daughter of a man who stole our people's money. She has 400 pairs of Louboutins.
R40, all the problems you describe that are plaguing Russia also exist in America. Millions of Americans cannot afford iphones and do not have internet access. American politicians are usually quite wealthy (it takes a lot of money to run a successful campaign) and are completely indifferent to those who live in poverty.
Thanks to everyone who contributed to this thread. I hope I don't sound too negative to you. ;) Every country has its good side and bad side. Other countries have its fair share of problems too. I don't want to be a whiny child, so, I'll stop complaining now. Smile. :)
Pinko Commie Bastard, are you here?
Positive aspects? Free health care and education.
Russian Girl, thanks for sharing. What are your favorite things about your country and culture? How aware are average people about the degree of political corruption? How do some of the more distinct republics (Kalmykia, Mari El, Tatarstan)function as part of the federation and how much of their unique history, language and tradition is maintained?
Спасибо, Russian Girl, for hanging with us on DL.
I am betting we will learn a lot from you.
I love the titans of Russian literature such as Pushkin, Lermontov, Tolstoy, Dostoevsky, Bulgakov and Chekhov; contemporary writers Sergei Dovlatov and Victor Pelevin. I have a penchant for Russian classical music (Tchaikovsky, Prokofiev, Stravinsky etc). I went to Bolshoi Theatre and really liked it there. Russian ballet is fantastic. Want good modern music? Look no further than Zemfira (who's a lesbian & in a long term relationship w/ Renata Litvinova).
Luckily, most people are well aware of political corruption and inequality. But they can't do anything about it.
Many Tatars and Kalmyks can't speak their native tongue, let alone know their history and tradition. They have adjusted to the Russian culture. I don't know if it's a good or bad thing. I have many ethnic friends and they are just like Russians.
Thanks for asking & sorry for my Russian Rudeness. :)
[quote]They can't even afford an iPhone.
Не дай Бог!
Я просто шучу.
What do you mean?
I love this one from Russian Girl's link @ r47!
"A stranger should not look at a newborn baby before it is a certain age (between two months and one year). If one looks at the baby it is considered bad luck to compliment it. Instead, one could say, ' Oh, what an ugly child!'. "
[quote]A stranger should not look at a newborn baby before it is a certain age (between two months and one year). If one looks at the baby it is considered bad luck to compliment it. Instead, one could say, ' Oh, what an ugly child!'
Now they tell me!
This thread is dead
Нет это не так!
No, not dead!
I am curious about the hopes and dreams of young adults in Russia.
In America, there used to be a strong media message about the American dream, which used to be an education or hard work would get you a marriage, a house, kids, and a job.
Now it seems to be about being the possibility of achieving overnight success - getting famous or wealthy or both, very quickly.
What kinds of dreams are circulating in Russia?
I said it before and I will say it again. Russia is a dying country. I have been to Siberia and the Russian Far East for the past 20 or so years. Small cities, towns, and villages. It is much more brutal now and you get a "survivalist" sense of me vs. them. As the society downwardly spirals, it becomes more violent and the people become more hopeless.
You could say the same thing about Alabama R59, and yet it is still there.
It is really really really hard to kill a country, and no country in the world has been harder to kill than Russia.
Anyone else think Sergey Paramonov was hot? Were you a Young Pioneer?
Юный барабанщик! Юный барабанщик!
What's up with the weird alphabet? Why can't they use normal letters like the rest of us? And does it ever stop snowing?
[quote]What's up with the weird alphabet? Why can't they use normal letters like the rest of us?
Wikipedia can answer your questions about such things as the willful obstinacy of refusing to use non-weird letters.