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Gi-Normous Sinkhole in Louisiana Threatens 1.5 Million Barrels Liquid Butane; Blast= 100 Hiroshima Bombs If Ignited
Hello from Louisiana DLers!
It started as an odd bubbling of gas in a bayou 6 months ago, turned into a Gi-Normous sinkhole threatening 1.5 million barrels of butane, dozens of pipelines carrying oil up north. If it explodes, projected 18.5 mile diameter circle will ignite, anything within getting 3rd degree burns. Read on....
Louisiana State of Emergency: Oil and gas sinkhole disaster area risks and rights violations escalating
A possible breach of a butane-filled well 1500 feet from Bayou Corne's sinkhole, the size of three football fields, is so "very serious," it has Assumption Parish sheriff and local residents ordered to evacuate worried about a catastrophic explosion, one according to scientists in an Examiner investigation, would be in the range of one and a half B83 thermonuclear (hydrogen) bombs, the most powerful United States weapons in active service.
8/11/2012 -- Louisiana Sink Hole Explained -- POSSIBLE HUGE CATASTROPHE -- 100 Hiroshimas.
“The disaster is made all the more worrisome because the hole is believed to be close to a well containing 1.5 million barrels of liquid butane, a highly volatile liquid that turns into a highly flammable vapor upon release,” CNN reported Friday about Louisiana's declared State of Emergency.
Earlier it was reported the butane-filled well is only 1500 feet from the sinkhole and it will not be emptied.
A breach of that well, Assumption Parish Sheriff Mike Waguespack said, could be "catastrophic,” CNN reports.
If ignited, the butane well would release as much explosive energy as 100 Hiroshima bombs, Deborah Dupré's scientist sources told her Sunday.
Friday, officials went door-to-door in the Bayou Corn area to complete questionnaires, including next of kin contact details of locals at home after the mandatory evacuation orders, as Fox News reported, while ABC reported, “If any of the dangers seem to become more imminent,” the present mandatory order will be “escalated to a forced evacuation.”
Some residents of Louisiana's cultural gumbo of Assumption Parish think dangers are more imminent now, despite state Department of Health & Hospitals Office of Public Health officials' letter to parish officials about air and water testing data.
“Based on their testing, it doesn’t appear that chemical exposure of site-related contaminants pose a public health risk in the immediate area of Bayou Corne,” parish officials said.
Since Saturday, disaster workers are required to wear respirators, although the public within the disaster area is not.
Government cover up continues angering residents and elected leaders
"You can give us a straight answer because that's all we want," a woman said at the community meeting Tuesday. "We want to know when we can come home and be safe. Because you all go home after a days work. You're safe, but we're not," she said, expressing sentiments of other locals with whom Dupré has spoken.
The Department of Environmental Quality (DEQ) put air-monitoring stations around the area to measure LELs (lower explosive limits) and say no radiation danger exists, although all test sample results will not be available until later this week. The Department of Natural Resources (DNR) had quietly permitted Texas Brine Company LLC to pump radioactive waste into its now failing cavern near the sinkhole DNR also hid documents showing that cavern may have had problems since 2010.
Last week, Rep. Joe Harrison, R-Napoleonville, said he wants more transparency and answers from the Office of Conservation. Like many leaders angered that DNR officials hid documents about the failing brine cavern near both sinkhole and butane well, Harrison had no idea about structural issues within the brine cavern until reading this in the paper, according to Fox News.
Environmental attorney Stuart Smith said last week he believes nothing officials are saying about this mounting disaster.
Louisiana Environmental Action Network (LEAN) reports that, in addition to over twelve areas in and around Bayou Corne and Grand Bayou having “waters rolling from escaping methane, ethane, and propane,” locals have also reported tremors and houses shifting.
Local fear and frustration are exacerbated because no local is allowed in "operation/status" meetings, as in the ongoing BP oil “spill” catastrophe, and because officials have not publicly released estimated effects from the possible butane explosion, including secondary explosions of nearby fossil fuels, information urgently needed by locals, emergency responders and nearby oil and gas facilities's workers.
Assumption Parish, an oil refinery haven in the heart of the nation's Cancer Alley, is crisscrossed with oil and gas pipelines.
Potential butane explosive capacity calculated
The 1.5 million barrels of liquid butane 1500 feet from the sinkhole has an explosive capacity of 100 Hiroshima nuclear bombs, 1.5 times the explosive force of the largest thermonuclear weapon in current service in the U.S., according to Wikipedia scientific data and popular citizen reporter, Dutchsince, and confirmed by Dupré's sources this weekend.
Excluding secondary oil and gas pipeline and refinery explosions, direct effects of such a single bomb blast in Bayou Corne, fifty miles from Baton Rouge, would include Donaldsonville, Louisiana, according to NUKEMAP simulations showing an H-bomb this size would produce:
"Fire-ball radius: (central orange circle): 0.62 km / 0.39 mi. Maximum size of the nuclear fireball; relevance to lived effects depends on height of detonation.
"Air blast radius: 3.8 km / 2.1 mi (red shaded circle) 20 psi overpressure; heavily built concrete buildings are severely damaged or demolished; fatalities approach 100%
"Air blast radius: 8.93 km / 5.55 mi (gray shaded circle) 4.6 psi overpressure; most buildings collapse; injuries universal, fatalities widespread.
"Thermal radiation radius: 15.18 km / 9.43 mi (outer orange shaded circle) Third-degree burns to all exposed skin; starts fires in flammable materials, contributes to firestorm if large enough."
- Hold me David, I'm scared.
- and the price of gas...
- the human body is flammable.
- All these recent sinkholes could be caused by FRACKING. But you won't hear this on the MSM until natural gas flames are shooting out of giant sinkholes.
- Not a word on cnn.
- Tell Bobby Jindal to deal with it himself. No help from the Federal Government for him.
- Holy crap! I had no idea this had been going on.
As usual, the Big Corp is playing the asshole.
Here's an earlier one.
- OP here. There are two excellent videos I found that explains this. First is included in a box on the left of the original post link, it is a 15 minute video.
The second one is linked here.
Apparently many offshore oil wells are suddenly unstable (think BP Oil Spill), due to compression of the Earth's surface from NW America and California, including frac sites. Good to listen to.
- holy jesus!
- The world shrugs and gets rid of roughly a million parasites in the process.
- Why are all these links to news from seven months ago?
- yes, please explain the outdated nature of your links, op?
- ...and leading the headlines are SJP's fucked up horse feet.
We really are the country of distraction.
- This situation has been going on for AGES - sad that we're just now being made aware of it on this larger scale. Now, it's so late in the game that it doesn't matter, anyway. I've been harping on it since the beginning - and NO ONE wanted/s to hear it.
I had to STOP going to ene news, because it got to be too fucking much.
- Welcome to August 2012, OP!
- R17, I knew for years New Orleans was going to flood b/c it was built below sea level and has shitty levees. I apparently knew better than the Bush administration. Just b/c it hasn't happened yet doesn't mean it isn't going happen. Or mean that it couldn't happen somewhere else. Fracking is INSANE. If mankind survives to be able to look back on the process they will think we were all a bunch of Cheeto eating dumbasses.
- Is this directly related to fracking?
- r11 I have a nephew who is working down there so fuck you.
r7 yes maybe Bobby should stop giving millions of dollars away to the film community in bribes to come film there and use some of that money to create jobs for rebuilding infrastructure. But then he wouldn't get their campaign contribution money.
- [quote] maybe Bobby should stop giving millions of dollars away to the film community in bribes to come film there and use some of that money to create jobs for rebuilding infrastructure.
But....but..one of the DL's favorite shows will be shooting their 3rd season there starting this summer!
- Why is this in the Examiner and no where else?
- This thing has been there for how long?
It seems the authorities have been keeping an eye on it and putting a plan in place to deal with it.
Perhaps its not such a huge emergency?
- Oh wait, This was dated back to August. How is this news?
- At first I read the headline as "Giant STINKHOLE" and assumed it had something to do with Cheryl.
- Here's a link from local news from February 2013, R23
- R23, I'm sure we could go into a big debate about the death of journalism for that answer. But echoing what someone else said upthread - the MSM will not pay any attention until Louisiana complete explodes and sinks into the Gulf. Then they'll all shrug and say they had no idea. Then 5 years after that some official body will release results of an investigation and people will no longer care.
- There's a fault, opened up, that goes almost completely across the bottom of the methane-filled gulf - so, Goodbye, Florida, if it all goes.
- I'm about 160 miles away – I wonder if I'll be able to see the blast plume from my house!?
Texas Brine ought to just go ahead and go out of business.
- The sinkhole is very real, but it's not going to explode with nuclear force.
Anyone can write for examiner.com, and it's a go-to place for crackpots and conspiracy theorists of all kinds.
Deborah Dupre is the author of this story. Here is her website, which has links to her other "investigations," which include "swine flu psy-ops" by the government and "secretly forced brain implants."
- Is that more gas than the Queen had?
- This sinkhole has nothing to do with fracking in Louisiana, because there *is* no fracking. Nor is there any oil exploration to speak of, except well off the coast. The closest fracking site to Louisiana is in South Texas, a good 500 miles away.
- Erin Brokovich is down there now telling residents to evacuate IMMEDIATELY. She is also trying to represent them in court.
These people are living next to bubbling methane fields, and are given $700 monthly as hush money/reperations from Texas Brine. Nothing has been the same since the BP oil spill.
However, methane fields are not limited to the Bayou. Just two weeks ago, LA had a huge methane rise from the ocean that scared the shit out of eveyone. Methane smells are being reported in every state.
Methane explains the Bermuda Triangle, as well as Spontaneous Human Combustution. It explains why people are having their cars go up in flames daily for no reason.
Duct tape is a good thing to have handy and to place under doors and around windows. don't park your RV's too close to your home as they are vulnerable to igniting.
And for heaven's sake--don't smoke!
- OP here. The links provided from 2012 were provided because they most clearly describe the origin and potential capacity for disaster. Current informational links assume that one already understands this information.
Yes, CNN is not covering this for some reason.
- "It explains why people are having their cars go up in flames daily for no reason."
- [quote]Methane explains the Bermuda Triangle, as well as Spontaneous Human Combustution.
It also explains Ina Garten.
- How does one put in a link?
- [quote]Just two weeks ago, LA had a huge methane rise from the ocean that scared the shit out of eveyone. Methane smells are being reported in every state.
Fascinating. So the methane bubbles up from the ocean or explodes?
R40 - copy and past into the box that says "Url:"
- Pure methane has no smell; it doesn't smell like commercial natural gas that has an odorant added.
- Oh, Jesus. Methane is one of the most common elements in the atmosphere. It emanates from every farm field in the world with animal shit in it, particularly from cows, as well as every landfill and every source of wastewater sludge. It also comes en masse from rice fields, one of the most common food sources on the plant, during the growing process. Some estimates argue that as much as 70% of the methane in the atmosphere comes from agricultural products alone.
Btw wouldn't the force of 100 Hiroshima bombs level just about all of Louisiana and large parts of Texas and Mississippi, including New Orleans and Houston?
- THERE WAS A HUGE ONE IN FLORIDA JUST 1month ago an it swallowed a man sleeping in his bed. you have to DIG for the reports because America Natural Gas has a commercial on EVERY network.
ANG is a huge account to throw away just to cover the sinkhole stories. perfectly rational to a corporation.
Just pray you don't get swallowed up in your sleep
- [quote] Btw wouldn't the force of 100 Hiroshima bombs level just about all of Louisiana and large parts of Texas and Mississippi, including New Orleans and Houston?
We can only hope.
- [quote]THERE WAS A HUGE ONE IN FLORIDA JUST 1month ago an it swallowed a man sleeping in his bed. you have to DIG for the reports because America Natural Gas has a commercial on EVERY network.
Are you fucking kidding me? That was ALL OVER the news for over a week! (online as well as TV)
- I think this guy has a good hold on what's happening with the methane fields.
- R45, potential energy for any combustible source is pretty easy to calculate, after all, a gasoline octane rating is a prime example, but also butane, propane, anything combustible even wood.
The calculated energy release of 1.5 million BARRELS (1 barrel = 55 gallons) of liquid butane under substantial pressure is calculated.
- All the news outlets have sent their people over to the Vatican to cover the Pope story, maybe they don't have the people to cover this story right now.
- [quote]THERE WAS A HUGE ONE IN FLORIDA JUST 1month ago an it swallowed a man sleeping in his bed. you have to DIG for the reports because America Natural Gas has a commercial on EVERY network.
Google News shows 119,000 results for this story -- newspaper, TV and online sources.
Clearly America Natural Gas isn't getting what it paid for.
- I believe the reason the mainstream media isn't covering this story is because companies like GE bought up the major media outlets a couple of decades ago and ---poof!!!--- suddenly we stopped hearing any serious concerns about energy/environmental issues such as nuclear power, fracking, oil drilling, or methane-radioactive Louisiana sinkholes. The only big media that discusses the environment and global warming on a regular basis is Fox "News" and obviously all they're out to do is discredit and dismiss it in the most condescending terms.
OP's article was interesting but irritating... it mentions in passing that authorities declared they have no intention of draining the butane well (why? what's the reasoning? are there risks? I want to know more about that option or lack of it) and also mentions something about that area being "Cancer Alley" - a term I've never heard before and which I felt also deserved more explication.
100 Hiroshima bombs is misleading because it'd be a mostly-underground explosion, which is why the major blast radius would be contained to about a 10 mile diameter (actual H-bombs are meant to be detonated about half a mile above the earth so as to create maximum damage). Though if the butane is located next to a well of radioactive waste, my guess is that an explosion could disperse radioactive particles over a wide area which would pose many long term problems for a large amount of the US population (again, it'd be nice if the article delved into that aspect of things). Such an explosion could also be a death blow to the fragile-and-already-dying Louisiana bayou, which has served as a protective hurricane and tornado buffer for that part of the continent for thousands of years. Once the bayou is gone, New Orleans is totally fucked.
- R51---where do you suggest to put 1.5 million barrels of liquid butane, in Bic lighters?
This is one of the strategic oil reserve reservoirs that we have been filling up with petroleum products ever since the oil embargo of 1975 when Carter was president.
The blast capacity of 100 Hiroshima bombs is not misleading, it is calculated and accurate. Didn't anyone take Physical Science in College?
The radioactive waste is naturally occuring shale waste drilled up while drilling oil wells. It is injected deep below an impermeable shale layer and supposedly kept there without migrating into the water table.
- [quote]I believe the reason the mainstream media isn't covering this story is because companies like GE bought up the major media outlets a couple of decades ago and ---poof!!!--- suddenly we stopped hearing any serious concerns about energy/environmental issues such as nuclear power, fracking, oil drilling, or methane-radioactive Louisiana sinkholes.
Christ, more conspiracy-theory bullshit. GE sold NBC Universal to Comcast several years ago. ABC's owned by Disney, which I rather strongly doubt has anything of this nature to hide. CBS is controlled by Sumner Redstone as part of his National Amusements subsidiary, which besides the network owns a chain of movie theaters.
As for nuclear power concerns, clearly you were in a coma a year ago when the Fukushima tsunami and plant meltdown occurred and missed the 24/7 coverage on every major cable news network and blanket coverage by all the major newspapers. Or the story in the NY Times just this past weekend about fracking in South Texas being unsustainable because it requires so much water and is rapidly draining the only source of water for the entire region (an aquifer - btw the area is desert and gets next to zero rain even when Texas *isn't* in the middle of a historic draught, as it is now). Or the months-long blanket news coverage when the BP well exploded in the gulf, etc etc etc.
- A house gets sucked up about once every 2 years in FL. Smaller sinkholes occur regularly. The first year I lived in Orlando, a smallish ranch-style house down the street just vanished in two days. Fortunately no one was hurt, but everything they possessed was taken in one fell swoop. There is surely no fracking going on in Seminole County...it's just Mother Nature showing how much she loves us.
- [quote]All these recent sinkholes could be caused by FRACKING. But you won't hear this on the MSM until natural gas flames are shooting out of giant sinkholes.
So much STUPID in this thread.
Sinkholes have happening for millions of years before Fracking.
They happen quite frequently in Florida, where nobody is drilling for anything.
Fracking takes place too far down (as in miles) to be noticed at the surface.
Below ground water, often well below sea level.
- [quote] I had to STOP going to ene news, because it got to be too fucking much.
Same here. But every few weeks I can't seem to help myself and they are always posting links to and information about this situation.
- [quote]So much STUPID in this thread. .... They happen quite frequently in Florida, where nobody is drilling for anything.
Including your post, R55. Sinkholes in Florida are being blamed on, in part, excessive draining of the aquifer by farms and orchards for irrigation. They're drilling for water.
- Thank you R55 - Fracking is good for the economy and provides abundant natural gas, which might make this POS of a country actually energy self sufficient some day. Natural gas yields much less greenhouse gas than coal and/or oil. So, it's better for the environment. But no. THAT's not good enough for the hysterical left wing. The blame the USA first crowd thinks it's some sort of evil wizardry dreamed up by the maniacal "rethugs" and corporations, that will ruin the ground water supply. Not true. All myth. Sure, there have been accidents, but the same is true for ANY fuel exploration. All of that BS about being able to set your tap water on fire has been debunked - those cases were either well water contamination not related to fracking in any way, or just natural gas seeping into the water NATURALLY... It happens all the time, and has happened for millennia.
- R55, I can see you don't know much about science and technology. I have an MS in Petroleum Engineering. Let me enlighten you. It does not take place "miles" below the surface. Fracking is inherently restricted to shallow depth horizontal drilling.
Fracking often shatters the impermeable layer of shale completely, allowing HCs to percolate into water aquifers above it.
Feel better now?
- R58, you have your head up your ass and clearly you do know very little about the dangers of fracking.. I'm a petroleum engineer, I know and I've seen what happens. It is not only water pollution, but air pollution in those drying pits.
You realize, of course, that Vice President Chaney pushed and got exemption for the fracking industry from EPA regulations, don't you? Every wonder why?
- >>It is not only water pollution, but air pollution in those drying pits.
It kills dairy cows, too. Just read a couple weeks ago about cows in PA actually losing their tails because of the resultant gases.
- [quote]"You can give us a straight answer because that's all we want," a woman said at the community meeting Tuesday. "We want to know when we can come home and be safe. Because you all go home after a days work. You're safe, but we're not," she said
She should be employed to lead on this emergency.
- Bump - or BOOM - to keep this in our consciousness - DESPITE the Pope crap, etc.
- [quote]Btw wouldn't the force of 100 Hiroshima bombs level just about all of Louisiana and large parts of Texas and Mississippi, including New Orleans and Houston?
Not even close. That's "only" a 1.5 megaton explosion, the equivalent of 1.5 million tons of TNT. In the 1950s the U.S. detonated a 15MT hydrogen bomb at a test site in the south Pacific. It left a pretty big crater but even that blast only destroyed part of the atoll.
Oh and there's no way a barrel of butane comes anywhere close to having the explosive power of a ton of TNT.
- Puh -- THIS is who's drilling for water in FL, and helping to cause the sinkholes.
"N-E-S-T-L-E-S! Nestle makes the very best -- sinkholes!"
- Quebec has a lot of sinkholes. No conspiracy there.
- OMFG another sinkhole in Louisana!!
From the local CBS station:
ASSUMPTION PARISH, LA (WAFB) -
Officials monitoring the Assumption parish sinkhole say the massive slurry burped again Sunday morning.
Nearly an acre of land fell off into the west side of the sinkhole, according to Assumption OEP director John Boudreaux. Boudreaux also said more debris and hydrocarbon appeared at the surface.
Crews will shut down part of Highway 70 (between Highway 69 and Lee Drive) in 15-minute increments beginning at 9 p.m. Sunday for 3D seismic scanning. The work is expected to be complete around 3 am.
- r65 is right.
To put it in perspective, the bomb at Hiroshima had a yield of about 16 kilotons.
The meteor which exploded over Russia in February was estimated at 500 kilotons.
1,600 kilotons = 1.5 megatons = 3 Russian meteors
- This is the kind of crap all of the news stations need to be reporting.
- I really think they need to recalculate their noo-cular scare factor. Pounds and tons again, dang.
- 1. The florida sinkhole was covered in the msm, but I do not recall a journalistic quest to figure out if there were man-made factors involved. The fact that posters on here keep distracting from that point is suspicious.
2. Fracking ABSOLUTLEY EXISTS IN Louisiana (see link below). Why some poster would come on this site and incorrectly proclaim this obscure fact is VERY SUSPICIOUS.
3. Why is somebody, or somebodies, systematically attempting to introduce false information into this topic? This is becoming unsettling.
4. Even if you are excited about oil drilling and fracking, can't you concede that there is always a trade-off for drilling for things like minerals, coal, and also natural gas? Surely you are not that child-like and yet still able to type.
- I'll be waiting patiently for your replies, r46, r50, r55, r58 and ESPECIALLY you, r35.
- proof that fracking does exist in LA. or just google it. Very strange that someone would say that it doesn't exist in LA.
- Don't be overly agitated about the rush of stories lately about petro-disasters. It is all an organized response to the possibility that the US may become petro-independent The Green slide a little. That cannot be allowed to happen, no matter what it takes. (Lies or otherwise.)
- STILL WAITING R35...
- If we don't put an end to Fracking we will destroy ourselves even faster than the worst possible climate change scenarios. It's that simple. Do anything you can to stop fracking. Write, call, email, Tweet your legislators...and hurry!
Fracking is metastasizing!
- DO YOU CARE TO EXPLAIN YOUR INTENTIONAL MISTATEMENTS, R35?
We are all breathlessly waiting for you to show yourself now that you have been exposed.
- Latest news, three more acres into the abyss.
Arial shots as well.
- I guess r35 got swallowed by a sinkhole.
- Every time I watch the news, I keep expecting this story to appear but it hasn't. I may have missed it upthread, but why isn't it getting media coverage?
Also, I'm ignorant to the metrics of how far reaching the worst case scenario would be: would the blast affect Baton Rouge?