Should Demi Moore receive alimony from Ashton Kutcher?
Actress Demi Moore is seeking alimony from estranged husband Ashton Kutcher, according to divorce documents filed in a Los Angeles court on Thursday.
In Kutcher's filing, the actor said he would not seek spousal support but would not deny support to Moore.
So should Demi get Ashton's cash?
No, but a final fling would be appreciated.
Why doesn't Maggie Gallagher's NOM ever attack marriages like this one?
Doesn't see have more money then he does?
Yes. He humiliated her and she nearly lost her mind as the result of it. Fuck him. She's more talented, and was just as hot as he is when she was his age (if not more). Demi's no saint, but he's a nasty, fratboy shit. He'll fuck over Mila Kunis too.
This woman was making multi millions to star in films. Now she's reduced to getting money from Ashton Kutcher?
She wants part of his "Two and Half Men" $1.25 Million a week salary.
Maybe it is an issue of principle R5
After all in California isn't community property suppose to be split 50/50
She's trying to hold on as long as she can .... and getting him where she still can. In the pocketbook. Sounds like he is happy to pay alimony to be rid of her.
She seems really crazy and bitter. She's got boatloads of money. Just move on.
Hell hath no fury like an pathetic old has-been scorned.
[quote]This woman was making multi millions to star in films.
She was? Why?
R7, spousal support (alimony) & community property are 2 different things. Community property is jointly owned, so each is entitled to half, period (just as business partners would be). Support is not an entitlement -- it depends on whether one spouse needs to be supported at the expense of the other, which involves many factors such as their respective abilities to earn, whether one sacrificed earning ability during marriage at the request of the other, etc.
Fuck off r2
I wouldn't give that loser bitch one thin dime if I could get away with it.
Dude, where's my alimony?
Hell yes, she deserves it, she is Jackie freakin Templeton!
Demi is wealthy but is a victim wis using the divorce to make Ashton suffer. It is common for vindictive men or women to drag out a divorce and not let go.
Didn't Demi used to turn tricks with her mother? She got $90 million out of her divorce from Bruce Willis. even though she is wealthy, there is no way that crazy bitch will let Ashton off without a settlement.
I guess tha whole Khabballa thing is a scam after all...
Ashton will probably pay her $25 million to go away and not talk about him. He won't pay her alimony because she'll drag it out forever.
He cheated. He needs to pay.
It doesn't matter whether she needs it or not.
Some of it should be set aside for chin reconstruction surgery for Rumor too.
Is Ashton worth more than Demi? Why wouldn't Ashton ask for support from Demi?
I am sure they both cheated from the beginning. I thought Demi was into 3-ways. Right? He is the one who got caught, but I am sure he has dirt on her. Sorry, no amount of plastic surgery will help Rumer.
He needs to pay. He would not have been a star without her...
Under California law, all income earned during the marriage by will be divided 50/50. That means that Ashton's income from Two and a Half Men and his tech investments are both considered marital property and therefore will be split in half. If any of Ashton's web companies go public, Demi will get half. Any houses purchased during the marriage will either be sold and split or one person will have to pay the other 50% of the fair market value.
The big question is whether or not the couple had a pre-nup. Without a pre-nup Ashton could be entitled to half of all the money and assets Demi earned before their marriage. That includes that nearly $140 million she pulled in from acting and being married to Bruce Willis. But even without a pre-nup, 100% of the money earned while they were married will be split in half.
Demi Moore released the following statement at the time of their separation: "It is with great sadness and a heavy heart that I have decided to end my six-year marriage to Ashton. As a woman, a mother and a wife there are certain values and vows that I hold sacred, and it is in this spirit that I have chosen to move forward with my life. This is a trying time for me and my family, and so I would ask for the same compassion and privacy that you would give to anyone going through a similar situation."
R16, Demi's alcoholic mother used her to support them. Having a horrible mother is not something for which I blame Moore. Knowing what I know about her mother and the way she was raised, I actually have great respect for Demi Moore for overcoming terrible adversity and getting on with her life. She did not turn her back on her mother until shortly before the mother's death, and that was due to some pretty bad drunken messes the mother got herself into. One part of a sequence of events is that someone took Demi's mother in, and in return she burned down the beautiful old Victorian house in which she was staying (Las Vegas, New Mexico has a number of historical Victorian homes). That was around the time Demi was finished with her.
I agree with the poster who said this sounds like a normal community property issue in a divorce and has nothing to do with spousal support.
CA's standard divorce form (created so courts can process it as simply as possible) asks whether the party will be seeking spousal support. I'm sure Kutcher checked no. I don't believe the form asks whether the party objects to paying spousal support. That was probably made up.
Their premarital income is not an issue. At issue is any income either of them received during the course of the marriage, which is considered community property.
He was well on his way to being a star before he met her. Getting together with her made him a TABLOID star.
Demi holds values and vows sacred? Um, to party and sleep with your daughters' friends? I have no sympathy for her. It's tough to see your ex with a younger woman, but she married Ashton, a man 15 years younger than herself, out of vanity. It's her third failed marriage. Expecting money is typical of a whore.
We're they married in CA? I thought she did that whole move to Utah or Wyoming thing so her kids would be normal.
I think his celebrity would have happened without her. I always thought she got her talons into him because she was past her prime and could attempt to be relevant with someone who was on the way up.
I was always suspicious of their coupling and thought perhaps the real couple was Ashton and Bruce Willis.
Have at it, Granny. He's never coming back to your dried out old cooter.
If she is worth more than a 100 million and asking for alimony- well she is one screwed up woman. Period.
Apparently Ashton will fuck anything. Demi is shrewd and she will make him pay. She is entitled to half of the money that he earned during their celebrity marriage. This is good business in her mind. Spousal support is not going to happen. If she pushes on that then it will get ugly.
One thing they don't mention at celebrity net worth is that Ashton also has a piece of Skype and some other newly popular tech thing that I can't think of right now. He is probably worth closer to a half billion.
No way Demi is worth that much. She's only ever done movies and not even at the same salaries as her male co stars. She probably has never made more than 12 million for a picture and after agents and lawyers she most likely gets around 7. They also list her decline as starting in 1996. That's a long time ago and she's making a lot less than she was used to. Did she get divorce money from Bruce?
It is pronounced De MeMeMeMeMEEEEE after all.
she has plenty of her own money!
The numbers associated with this divorce are a bit staggering. That both of these people are worth combined close to a quarter of a billion dollars is hard to believe. My questions is what do you think their 'burn rate' is with their current lifestyles post separation, or more simply stated what would you guess that their annual expenses are? In some ways I could see that Demi's expenses may go up post divorce as she may no longer receive the comps, attention, and free stuff from the high end stores that desire to feed off her celebrity status. Another perspective might be that the loss of the spot light would cause the average person to be much more conservative in their spending habits to make what they have last into their retirement years particularly if they believe they won't be getting future work or film projects? Thoughts
Demi was the highest paid actress of the 90s. She and Bruce also had a bunch of investments, including Planet Hollywood (when it was popular). Then she got a ton of money from Bruce when they divorced. She's very wealthy. No sympathy for her.
Demi allegedly got $90 million from Bruce Willis. That is a huge divorce settlement. Demi is rich but wants a settlement. It's typical. They are supposed to be close to settling.
Ashton was already a star when they married.
I can't believe either of them possess so much money.
My atheism= reinforced for the day.
Women taking money from men. Some things never change. I think women could not breath without men. It's beyond pathetic.
Does anyone have actual knowledge that Demi has asked for spousal support, or is this all based on someone's conjecture after a weekend of drinking?
She won't be granted spousal support, whether or not she requests it (which is doubtful). It's for those who are unable to support themselves or to partially equalize situations where one spouse is financially dependent on the other.
CA is a community property state. When you get divorced in a community property state, you split your earnings during the course of the marriage. Demi isn't forcing Ashton to do anything; her own earnings will be factored into the equation and then everything is split.
"Hell hath no fury like an pathetic old has-been scorned."
Doesn't pretty boy Mr. Halle Berry get $20,000/month to take care of a child that doesn't even live with him?
Maybe Demi wants to try and break Amy Irving's or Nicole Kidman's record for largest divorce settlement received? She is competitive.
R43, Demi asked for spousal support and attorneys' fees. She also listed the end of the marriage as occurring after Ashton was busted with the San Diego hot tub skank. She wants more money for her pile, and less money for Mila.
Nicole Kidman has parlayed her 2002 divorce settlement into a $320 million fortune. Granted she was well paid in 2006, but she owes all of her opportunities to ten years with Tom Cruise. Demi was a bigger star before Ashton, so I am less sympathetic. She probably made less than Ashton did during the marriage, so she'll get paid off and leak the amount to the press.
R46, the spousal support and attorney fees request are probably [italic]pro forma[/italic] and put in on the advice of her lawyers. I doubt she expects the judge to grant either of those requests.
All womyn who subject themselves to the daily forcible rape that is heterosexual marriage and intercourse deserve every penny of alimony available.
It is just retribution for penile war crimes.
In addition to the money she made from movies at the height of her fame and the money she got divorcing Willis, Demi also has a very successful production company (it made those Austin Powers movies). Plus she's not a stupid woman when it comes to money; I wouldn't be surprised if she's been making a lot from smart investments over the years.
Thanks R48. I am convinced Nicole Kidman finances her own movies because they all lose money. Studios don't hire her. Demi should settle and do a t.v. show. She is relatively young and could make a comeback.
Alimony should be outlawed. It has no place in this day and age.
Isn't Demi an addict? She needs to take care of herself. The celebrity offspring thing must also get really expensive. The Willis kids and the Streep kids are forever on the dole.
[quote]Doesn't pretty boy Mr. Halle Berry get $20,000/month to take care of a child that doesn't even live with him?
I don't know, but if so, who cares? Women like to get all the money they can from rich men that they have kids with and/or marry, so men may as well do the same thing when it's the woman who's rich. Women always talk about wanting things equal, so it goes both ways - you have to take the bad along with the good.
The more beautiful, feminine one in a relationship should not have to pay alimony.
Of course it does, R52. It's going to exist as long as married people trade their aging stay at home spouses for bimbettes.
Equalizing income is also a way to help provide a better life when there are young children involved.
A friend put her husband through medical school working as a secretary. They had a quid pro quo arrangement, well known to their friends, that he would put her through school after he began his medical career. When he fell in love with a nurse, he tried to renege on their arrangement. It didn't work and she was awarded alimony while she's in school. She's in med school and she's doing far better than he did. By all accounts, she's headed for a brilliant career.
Madonna had to give Guy Ritchie $92 million and she still complains about it. My opinion is that he earned it by putting up with her. For Demi, Ashton being so brazen about cheating and parking in Mila Kunis' driveway has got to burn. She tried buying a couple of younger boyfriends but they bailed. She always seemed insecure ... Her biggest payday was for flashing her tits in Striptease. Sad. The Beverly Hills culture is horrible to women. They don't even see it and live in a gaudy plastic surgery haze.
[r54]: if you don't care about a male gold digger, then stop getting your panties in a twist over a female one.
R58 You're the one who brought up Halle Berry and her ex, even though they have absolutely nothing to do with this thread.
Demi's apartment that she got in the divorce from Bruce is quietly on the market for $75,000,000. It is the south tower penthouse of the San Remo that formerly belonged to Robert Stigwood and before him Jacob Rothschild. Bruce paid $6,000,000 decades ago before the market went crazy. The north penthouse, is smaller and is owned by Bono who bought it from Steve Jobs
So you agree that Ashton shouldn't have to pay, r55.
These amounts of money are crazy. Demi is set for life, unless the various upkeep on all of her holdings is making her run out of cash. At a certain point, it gets very expensive to be filthy rich. She should downsize and not remarry. Go on a budget.
"Doesn't see have more money then he does?"
Yes, but he earned much more during the years they were married. He did TV and movies and produced etc., while she did the occasional small role. His assets are much more vulnerable to community property division than hers, even if her assets are undoubtedly larger overall.
It's an unusual case; legally she can demand lots of his money and probably get alimony, but I don't believe it's ethical for her to do so. She should find another way to make him suffer.
Have a heart, gays! You know I'm going to be supporting THIS for the rest of my life.
Is this a soap thread?
Moore DID play Jackie Templeton after all.
R21, that site isn't accurate.
Of course, the woman has, not one, not two, but THREE daughters with potato heads.
What do you think their prospects for marriage are?
Hasn't the woman suffered enough?
I think she should get alimony and donate it very publicly to the victims of Jerry Sandusky and the other Penn State diddlers and enablers.
That's the real reason she got $90 million from Bruce r68.
Imagine those potatoes coming out of you.
If he doesn't want to pay her there are always things she can do to Mila and him.
Ashton must be super smart -investing in Skype? Who knew? Half a billion net worth?
Why not? All children have to eventually take care of their parents.
I can't wait 'til Rumer, Mila and Ashton do a threeway sex vid and twitterify it.
[quote]It's for those who are unable to support themselves or to partially equalize situations where one spouse is financially dependent on the other.
So why did Guy Ritchie get alimony? Surely he was not financially dependent on Madonna. If got alimony, then I don't see why Demi shouldn't.
she just wants to keep the torch burning for him.
I can't remember if Guy had a prenup but it's the consequence of divorce. It's why Madge is "with" a submissive boy / manny now who is young enough to her son. She'll never marry again.
Re Demi, CDAN had a blind today about a former A lister who does meth. Popular guess was Demi.
She has more money than him. Yes, as always, marital assets should be eventually split, but Demi getting spousal support beyond that, in this case, would make women look like leeches. And I don't care that he cheated on her, what else did she expect marrying a child half her age.
I don't think Ashton was much of a star before he got together with Demi. He was just some kid from That 70s show.
[quote]It's tough to see your ex with a younger woman, but she married Ashton, a man 15 years younger than herself, out of vanity.
It seems weird to pick on her for that. Men marry younger women out of vanity all the time. And the age difference is often much more than 15 years. For example, there's a 25-year age difference between her ex Bruce and his wife.
R65 MY EYES! MY EYES!
One day Ashton will be dumped by Mila. It's inevitable. How Mila has avoided public backlash is baffling. Maybe they seem like old friends and not threatening. Demi has aging and addiction issues.
I don't have much sympathy for either of them, but there's no need for exaggeration about the age difference. He certainly wasn't a child when they married (he was in his late twenties) and he wasn't half her age. Definitely old enough to make his own decisions, and not her victim in any way. He got the publicity he was looking for.
Demi. That traitorous bitch doesn't deserve a dime. Not a dime.
Demi is an immature woman. Despite her millions, she has to screw over Kutcher, instead of walking away like an adult.
Demi is suffering from dick withdrawal, or as the French call it "Au revoir du grande cock". If she was still getting That 70's Bone she'd drop her financial demands.
Demi gets up on the stand and says:
"Your honor, I gave birth to a potato head, not once, not twice but THREE times, THREE FUCKING times."
How could anyone refuse a woman who's suffered so much?
Rumer Willis) Ashton was more of a parent to me than Demi Moore.
Judge) Thank you, will the potato please return to her seat.
She got to fuck him whenever she wanted! There's her alimony!
I'd have more sympathy for her if those giant potato heads passed through her vagine, but the bitch had C-sections and tummy tucks after each one.
Yeah, recovery may be a bitch, but given her reputation I'm sure she was more than adequately medicated.