It really is a true suburban dream. I never thought I'd love it so, but boy, I do ... I have arrived.
I live in NYC and I'd slit my wrists if I had to relocate to some dull berg called Highland Park. Christ, even the name is boring.
Highland Park is pretty--right by the lake and has the Ravinia Festival close by, where there are great concerts and staged musicals in the summer. Not far from Chicago either. Try being a little less provincial, Mr. New York-is-everything.
Well honey, you're the only one. I grew up in Illinois, and you couldn't PAY me to go back.
I think it's where the film was shot, but the novel's setting was Lake Forest (I think).
As to all the queens laughing at OP--well, if he lives in HP, it means he probably makes more money (or his partner does) than all the queens living in depressing studios in Boystown.
I grew up in HP (west of the Edens). Once you get away from the historic lakefront neighborhoods, real estate can be rather inexpensive, particularly in the older areas with lots of 60s/70s ranch homes.
I have very mixed opinions about the place. Lots of nose-jobbed, dye-jobbed, arrogant Jappy princesses driving big German SUVs around town shopping while their douchebag lawyer husband is doing douchey shit downtown. Competitive bar mitzvahs, divorced parents fighting for their kids' affection by buying them cars and stuff, entitled asshole kids doing coke in their basements, etc.
That being said, HP is a hugely Democratic-voting place, and I know some really lovely people there. When I was in high school in the 80s, after they shut down Fort Sheridan, which left a poorer, heavily Hispanic elementary school district in/near Highwood up shit's creek with far less funding, the entire city voted to absorb that district into the one serving the more affluent parts of HP, in order to preserve educational equity. I still feel proud of that.
[quote]Well honey, you're the only one. I grew up in Illinois, and you couldn't PAY me to go back.
I'm still trying to get the hell out of this shithole state! It's boring, the people are bitchy, and there are no decent jobs. As soon as I get out, I'll never come back.
I am with R3. I grew up in Evanston and went to college at U of C. I was out as soon as I graduated.
Highland Park is hardly tony or interesting. Just another strip mall laden, tract house/MckMansion stretch between Chicago and the neighboring states.
r11, where in IL do you live? Chicago?
I've been toying with the idea of moving back to Chicago from NYC, even though I hated living there in the past, because real estate is so freaking cheap now, and I have lots of old friends there. I agree that it's boring - lots of poorly educated, uncurious Midwesterners with attitude who distrust anything outside of their comfort zone, a gay world that revolves wholly around alcohol, "the bars" (most of which suck), and sleeping with the same circle of six friends all the time.
NY has become a lot like that, too, in recent years, unfortunately :-/
Those Chicago suburbs always make me think of John Hughes 80s movies. He made the people who lived there look like idiots, except Molly Ringwald of course.
Good luck R11 - sincerely. It WILL crush your soul, if you stay, particularly if you're gay, in my opinion.
I love IL but will most likely never move back there. They've been getting slammed with snow lately.
R13 Right now I live in Central Illinois which is Aaron Schock land, so that tells you all you need to know about how fucking awful it is and how stupid the people are. But I've lived in Chicago before too, and it's a bunch of bullshit too - miserable unfriendly people, boring for a big city, and very crime-riddden, especially in the summer. I suggest you take an extended vaction here before deciding to move back, because I know I can't wait to leave.
R15 Thank you. Yes, it is killing my soul and I'm miserable here. I hope I can leave within the next few years.
R4, Beth left Calvin to go stay in Houston with her brother. Didn't you hear?
I live in a college town in upstate NY--a pretty enlightened and very gay-friendly one--but I grew up in a different Chicago suburb from HP--Oak Park--and I would move back in a nanosecond if jobs and family commitments made it possible.
I think some people (probably those of who grew up in suburbs) may simply find living in a really urban area (i.e. Manhattan, Boystown, the Castro) just too jarring. I love NYC, but I don't think I could actually cope with living there (expenses aside).
It's so odd that people in datalounge are afraid to admit that cost bothers them.
OP is prolly the racist piece of shit, that posts here.
Why don't you buy the same exact house in Olympia Fieds? Because blacks live there, that is why.
This racist cunt wouldn't go anywhere near the south suburbs much less the south side.
Why don't you bury your AIDS infected racism in Highland Park, while REAL Americans cope with REAL issues.
Die, nigger Tyrone at r24.
I hate to be a "soul crusher", but with a few minor variances in character and values, people and places are pretty much the same wherever you go.
If you are miserable in one place, odds are just moving to another won't cure that.
I'd rather eat glass.
FF #24. Troll alert.
r13 - beautiful summary. for both chicago and NYC (where I live).
so fucking depressing.
My mother lived in Highland Park (and then she died). When I visited her in the last several years, I was amused by the "Character Counts in Highland Park" signs at intersections. They were made from recycled stop signs and added pearls of wisdom like, "Don't intentionally hurt others." I'd love to know whose brainchild that was.
I lived in HP for a couple of years as a teenager, then got the hell out. Yes, it is very pretty, at least the parts near the lake (my parents lived in the Ravinia area) but it is unbearably smug and boring. If you're ever in the area, though, the Chicago Botanical Garden is not to be missed.
We all have our own versions of Tasty Meadows.
I live in Highland Park, TX. I hate it!
Just moved back to Highland Park, MI, lots of big arab dicks, and the homosex
OP, I lived in HP for 3 months after graduating high school. I actually lived on Ft. Sheridan grounds. It was a wonderful place for me, as a southerner, at that age.
The memory of a Mexican restaurant, Las Tres Hermanas, remains with me. They had good guac. And, what is the name of the restaurant up there, Buffo's? That was the first time I had a burger that wasn't well done. From that point on, I've always asked for my burgers to be cooked well done.
Highland Park isn't so bad compared to the big McMansiony types of suburbs where all the homes are new, huge bland monstrosities (e.g., Naperville) or the old money, we're rich and you're not suburbs (e.g., Winnetka).
It has a nice little downtown with some local stores and an amazing BBQ place.
You could do worse, OP. And if you seriously need to get your cocktail on and want to go to the city without driving, you can do Metra.
That's where the Obamas live, no?
No. They live in Kenwood.
That was Highwood, not Highland Park, R34. And it is now developed as civilian housing.
Thank you, R38. It was 24 years ago, so my memory isn't as good as it once was.
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