Lech Walesa, formerly important, says gays in parliament should sit in the back or even behind a wall
A national committee devoted to fighting hate speech and other crimes in Poland has filed a complaint with prosecutors in Gdansk accusing Lech Walesa of promoting a "propaganda of hate against a sexual minority", after the Nobel peace prize-winner said gay people had no right to a prominent role in politics.
Walesa said in a television interview on Friday that he believed gay people had no right to sit on the front benches in parliament and, if there at all, should sit in the back "or even behind a wall".
"They have to know that they are a minority and adjust to smaller things, and not rise to the greatest heights," he told the private broadcaster TVN during a discussion of gay rights. "A minority should not impose itself on the majority."
Walesa, Poland's first democratic-era president, is a deeply conservative Roman Catholic and a father of eight who has never advocated progressive social views. The democracy he helped create in 1989 from the turmoil of strikes and other protests has, however, been undergoing a profound social transformation in recent years.
A key symbol of the change is a new willingness to tackle gay rights, long a taboo subject. In 2011, voters elected Poland's first openly gay and first transsexual members of parliament.
Walesa is no longer active in Polish political life, though he is often interviewed and asked his opinion on current affairs, as on Friday when he was asked about his views on civil partnerships and a new public gay rights campaign. Much of his time is spent giving lectures internationally on his role in fighting communism and on issues of peace and democracy.
Jerzy Wenderlich, a deputy speaker of parliament with the Democratic Left Alliance, said: "From a human point of view his language was appalling. It was the statement of a troglodyte. Now nobody in their right mind will invite Lech Walesa as a moral authority, knowing what he said."
Some said they were not surprised by Walesa's words. "I am surprised that only now we are noticing that Walesa is not in control of what he says and that he has views that are far from being politically correct," said Adam Bielan, a conservative Polish member of the European parliament.
Poland owes Walesa and his compatriots a huge debt of gratitude...which it has long since paid. Younger Poles, like younger Americans, are changing the face of their country, and there's not a damn thing the dinosaurs can do to change it.
Walesa made himself a hero by standing against the communists. Now he's making himself a goat by standing for the bigots. If he had any sense, he'd be content to age in the glow of heroism unsullied by his caveman bullshit.
Too bad, Lech, you could have stayed a hero.
It should be pointed out to him that his views are consistent with those expressed popularly in Russia now. He might be more comfortable in that social climate.
Words, wit and wisdom for r5.
A walking Polish joke.
When I saw Lech Walesa, I immediately thought it was a humorous way of writing Lisa Welchel. Datalounge is ruining me.
Walesa is like Polish sausage; it's best not to see what they're made of.
That he did not shake off the grease and bigotry of the shipyards over his long ascension is sad but not surprising. He is just mouthing the extreme end of what the Church holds.
And, yes, it is disgusting.
[quote]"They have to know that they are a minority and adjust to smaller things, and not rise to the greatest heights," he told the private broadcaster TVN during a discussion of gay rights. "A minority should not impose itself on the majority."
Good as you, asshole.
You know guys, he kinda has a point. Quit making waves, gay bros.
[quote]When I saw Lech Walesa, I immediately thought it was a humorous way of writing Lisa Welchel.
Hmmm. When I saw Lech Walesa, I immediately thought of the Polish leader of the Solidarity movement, who worked to free Poland from the yoke of Soviet domination in the waning years of the Cold War, just 30 years ago.
You sound stupid.
And you sound like an insufferable cunt, R13.
You put the gays behind a wall and its only a matter of time until they drill a gloryhole.
Is the irony not lost on a man who fought for the freedom of his people? WTF is wrong with these people?
[quote]You put the gays behind a wall and its only a matter of time until they drill a gloryhole.
Yes, one of the great tragedies of the Berlin Wall coming down was the loss of that gloryhole near strasse 36. Communist Guard Cock! Glory B!
R22 - joke? or serious?
He was a tool of the CIA. Poland is often thought of as the remedial reading class of Europe always sucking up to the Americans. Walesa is an overbred shipyard boor who was catapulted into air too rarified for the likes of him. He always seemed like a clumsy oaf to me.
This makes me really sad. Lech Walesa was not just a political rebel leader but back then also a human rights activist.
Lech Walesa certainly knows how to make himself a counter-humanitarian oaf under all new circumstances, doesn't he?
He's just a small man and we all shrug as Putin cunts his way thru the masses.
He would fit well in the Republican party.
Again -- color me shocked that someone from a conservative Catholic country said something a conservative Catholic would say.