JewWatch says he was Jewish, but that is an anti-semitic website.
They say his 3 wives were Jewish and that Stalin's original last name was Djugashvili -"Djuga" means Jew and "shvili" means son of. I don't know Russian, is this true?
No. Stalin was born Eastern Orthdox but was an atheist.
No, Mr. J̌uḡašvili was not Jewish.
Yes, so was Hitler.
Stalin only had 2 wives. He actually went to a seminary to be a priest but quit shortly before he was to finish.
R3 those are rumors. There is no proof that Hitler or his relatives were Jews. But he was gay. Read the book "The Hidden Hitler"
OP, Stalin was Georgian, not Russian, do you know the difference? I think you do but this thread is apparently meant to achieve some certain low brow end.
Jugashvilli doesn't mean son of a Jew. It means son of Juga, and is derived from either the Ossetian йуга Juga (that means 'herd') or the old Georgian ჯუღა djuga - 'steel'.
As you said, Jewwatch is an anti-semitic website with all the credibility of any anti-semitic website.
And speaking of sons of a Jew; Norman Jewison was also not Jewish.
r5, more proof thAt GAY MEN are evil
I thought Georgia and Russian were interchangeable.
Hitler may have had one Jewish grandparent only if his mother were the bastard offspring of her mother's affair with her Jewish boss. But I understand there is nothing to back this up.
No, Georgian and Russian are not interchangeable.
They are two different languages.
Would you like to offer something else completely inaccurate for us to debunk while this thread lasts or would you like to quite while you are ahead.
Hitler was Catholic.
As a matter of fact they are not even closely related. Russian is a Slavic language. Georgian is a Kartvellian language. Not only are they not of the same family, Kartvellian isn't even an indo-European language.
Russian is more closely related to French, English, German, Spanish and Farsi than it is to Georgian.
You are really batting a thousand, OP.
Hitler was not Catholic. There's books written on the subject of Hitler and religion.
r9, I dare you to say to any Russian or Georgian that they are "interchangeable". That's kind of like saying the English and the Irish are "interchangeable". For one thing, Russian is a Slavic language akin to Polish, Czech, Slovak, etc. and uses the Cyrillic alphabet. I'm not so sure about Georgian, but am fairly certain it is an ancient language that has its own alphabet equally as old. Nikita Khrushchev, in his Memoirs, stated that Lavrenty Beria, head of the secret police and also Georgian, and Stalin, would often start conversing in Georgian at one of what Khushchev said were the many and interminable dinners given by Stalin, thereby leaving the Russian speakers in the dark about what they were saying. The Georgian Orthodox Church also has autonomy from the other Orthodox Churches, including the Russian. Stalin was a seminary student and discovered the writings of Marx and Engels in the seminary, perhaps ironically.
Yes, he was a seminarian who was quite devout. You might say he substituted one faith for another.
Georgians are not, not Russians. Please.
Why don't you ask Mrs Patrick Campbell, OP? I'm sure she's sucked his cock and can tell you if he was uncut.
For anyone interested in learning more about Stalin then the assertions posted on a website I would recommend reading Stalin: The Court of the Red Tsar by Simon Sebag Montefiore. It has become the authoritative Stalin biography. It is very dense reading as there are a lot of Russian names discussed which tend to blend together but it covers his life/origins as well as discussing his wives and children and all of the crazy, and I mean crazy shit that went on in his 15 different houses across Russia. What really stood out for me was how much alcohol played a role in the governing of Russia under his leadership. Every night Stalin, Beria and his top cronies would get shit wasted drinking well into the morning hours. Stalin himself was an insomniac who would sleep on these sofas in every room avoiding a dedicated bedroom. I was also surprised that he was only 5-6. Given all of these traits, it is really remarkable how long that government lasted considering.
Big fucking deal. I'm not a linguist. When I was in school, I think Russia and what is now Georgia were part of the massive Soviet Union, so I thought they were closely related, like England English and Ireland English. Untwist your damp panties, Marys.
No one gives a fucking fuck about Russians or Georgians in the first place so get back on topic for Christ's sakes!
Joseph Stalin's son emmigrated to America. He later became the bass player of the 60s band, The Association, and died from a heroin overdose.
Why the amers are such dumbers?!..
[quote]Hitler was not Catholic. There's books written on the subject of Hitler and religion.
The Nazis made up their own religion, which was heavy in Norse Mythology.
So Newt Gingrich is a Red?
Just Luke the Mormons.
It's Josef, you ignorami.
r18 and r19, it's always amusing to see Americans leap to the defensive like John Wayne or something whenever their ignorance is pointed out. Fume all you want, but my guess is that having been corrected here you are the better for it and won't make the same mistake again.
I heard that too, r20!
"Джугашвили" is Georgian surname (like Saakashvili).
"Долбоёб" - is another Russian word you have to learn which.
I'm happy to be corrected and learn new things about subjects I don't understand. But R26 has a haughty, Republican attitude. When you are enlighted about something, do you like it when people are rude and nasty about your ignorance?
r17, I gleaned a certain amount of info from "Khushchev Remembers" which is almost a darkly fun read--whoever translated it into English did a great job. Never heard of The Court of the Red Tsar, but will definitely make a note of it, thanks. I had been reading Isaac Deutscher's "Stalin" through the years and is also as you put it, "dense reading"; I never read the book from cover to cover but would select a chapter that interested me and read from there. Over the years I probably have read most of it by now. Khrushchev also pointed out the incessant drinking and said that some members of the inner circle would have the servers bring colored water instead of wine because they simply couldn't keep up with Stalin and to lose it in front of him might be a dangerous course to take. Khrushchev also said that Stalin would put on records and tell people to dance, as Khrushchev said, "when Stalin says dance, a wise man dances". Khrushchev also brought up the fact that despite Stalin being able (moreso after WW II was over) to drink until the wee hours and laze around during the day, others in the government had their jobs to do and it was a great strain as well as tiring to stay up with Stalin and be on the job the next day. Stalin also liked American cowboy movies (no doubt saw John Wayne)--he said that he would curse them and give them a Marxist-Stalinist ideological analysis then order more of those movies from America.
Sorry to see you are so Ultra-Sensitive r29, what would you have, cookies and milk? When I was learning history in school some of my teachers were acerbic, but I never held it against them. You must have some scorecard in your living room keeping track of who is on your shitlist for some imagined slight and who is not.
Neither haughty nor republican (especially the latter, being a Socialist)
[quote] Untwist your damp panties, Marys.
then post on another thread, you ignorant boob
According to DNA tests on Joseph Stalin's grandson and grand-nephew he belonged to Y haplogroup G2a1 which is not a Jewish haplogroup. Y-DNA is passed from father to son.
Adolf Hitler belonged to Y haplogroup E1b1b1 (E-M35). It is rare in Europe but common in the Middle East and North Africa. E1b1b1 is the third most common Y haplogroup among Jewish males after J1 and J2. Hitler was not gay.
Oh please, those anti-Semite assholes over at JW think anyone whose name isn't Smith or Jones is Jewish...fuck them and you to for reading and believing their crap enough to even ask that
r34, always needing to have the last word and throwing tantrums are often feminine traits, I prefer men to be men so as far as "dating" is concerned you, for one, needn't worry. How American of you to reduce everything down to whether or not someone "gets a date". You are probably a product of a childhood of one of two things, either you were very pampered and indulged or you were completely ignored--in the case of the latter, I can surely understand why.
Anonymous booger eating baboon.
I hate the DL Racist Troll with the heat of a thousand suns.
I loved that, r39!! I'm still laughing as I type!
Anonymous booger eating baboon
Hitler was a good Catholic and very devout. All the literature claiming paganism in Nazism is not about Hitler, or lies made up by the Catholic church to hide the very real fact that they were willing and eager partners of Hitler throughout his career.
And after of course. It was Hitler who taught them to hate homosexuality and abortion, after all, their two big issues under Nazi collaborators Wojtyla and Ratzinger.
OP truly baited all of you. Nobody even asked why s/he is spending time at a hate website. Then again, DL is often one as well.
Hitler was baptized and made his first communion as a Catholic.
OP you can't begin a thread spouting that Joseph Stalin was Jewish and expect to be treated with kidd gloves.
The OP didn't bait me
[quote] Oh please, those anti-Semite assholes over at JW think anyone whose name isn't Smith or Jones is Jewish...fuck them and you to for reading and believing their crap enough to even ask that [/quote]
что полезно одному, то вредно другому
Jew Watch? Really?
[quote] It's Josef, you ignorami.
It was Yusef.
It was Iosif in Russian and Ioseb in Georgian.
Russians consider all Georgians to be gangsters. Which is kind of funny, coming from Russians.
They also consider all Chechens to be thieves and gangsters.
But I think all three countries are run by organized crime.
Homosexuals were rampant in the nAZI party. They only killed femmes
[quote]Hitler was a good Catholic and very devout.
No, he was not.
[quote]Hitler was baptized and made his first communion as a Catholic.
So was I, and I don't consider myself Catholic.
Hitler rejected Catholicism, and most religion, but he wasn't an Atheist. I have a couple of books on the subject. I have to pull them out. It's really interesting, the religious philosophy he had. I know everyone wishes to pin Catholicism upon him because they hate it, but facts are facts. The thing that is true about the Catholic Church is that they helped the Nazis, blessed the bombs, and kidnapped Jewish children and gave them away to Christian families. That's even enough. You don't need Hitler to make it any worse.
Everyone is gay and Jewish according to DL. lol
I was always surprised that Jew-haters never played up Karl Marx being Jewish. I know they went after Jews shouting that they were a bunch of Leftist Commies, but I never heard them screaming that Marx = Jew, meant all Jews were evil Commies right off the bat. Like I said, maybe they did, but I never heard them say it. You had people like the Rosenbergs, who did turn out were traitors. I guess that was good enough for those people who were haters. They went after anyone who was a Leftist, and being that Jews were pretty much on the liberal side of things, they were automatically spotlighted.
I always wondered about Hitler having Jewish lineage. That's been suggested for ages. I don't know if they've been able to proven it beyond a shadow of a doubt. What irony if it was true!
The US conquered Japan, thus I thought English and Japanese were interchangeable!