It was a great show. I wish it was still on tv. What did you like about it? My favorite characters were Elaine Benes and Kramer. I thought Seinfeld wasn't really that funny compared to the others. George Costanza was really great too.
Elaine was the worst. I can't think of one episode where I didn't hate her. She was always getting them caught in their schemes and she was purposely always doing bitchy shit (telling the Ross' that George had no Hampton home, not helping Jerry with the Mulva girl, fucking over Russell so he left and the pilot was cancelled) there are so many things Elaine did, I really disliked her.
It was good - but overrated. We later saw that Seinfeld's character was really just Larry David - and he played him.
It had its moments, don't get me wrong. But there was way too much hype over it.
Elaine and George and their self-serving yet ultimately self-sabotaging ways definitely make the show. Kramer is great fun as well, but in doses. Seinfeld is essentially the straight man that ties everyting together, which the show needed as the others are simply too dysfunctional to have maintained lasting friendships on their own.
"I wish it was still on tv."
It still is. TBS airs 2-3 episodes each weeknight. And I haven't been in any major city where a local station doesn't carry the show. Larry David and Jerry Seinfeld are incredibly wealthy just on syndication rights.
That said, I love this show and even though I've seen all the episodes dozens of times, its still the best sitcom of all time.
Actually, R4, Larry David has said that he *is* George Constanza, a neurotic who grasps onto the least important experiences in life and blows them into epic proportions. If you watch HBO's "Curb Your Enthusiasm" with the understanding that Larry = George, the show is a scream.
[quote]We later saw that Seinfeld's character was really just Larry David - and he played him.
You know the show so well, we should definitely listen to your opinion.
It was far too Jewy for me to enjoy.
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Kramer irritated me most of the time.
I love Elaine.
Hey R9, Even though the jewish don't accept me I still accept Seinfeld. The show was a scream.
I have never, ever grown tired of Seinfeld. The same episodes can make me laugh over and over again. The writing was genius. I don't think anyone will ever come close to it.
"I wish it was still on tv."
I think that this show will still be on when I am in my 80s (2050). Reality tv doesn't hold a candle to quality scripted programing. The show's run ended in 1998 and 15 years have passed and it is still on every night on at least one channel. The stories and the jokes still hold up, but you do see things that appear dated like the cordless land-line telephones and the answering machines. As more time passes, the advances in technology and the way people interact with one another will really begin to date the show.
Even today, people don't converse nearly as much with strangers as they did in the early 90s. They immerse themselves in their cell phones and block out the world around them with their headphones. People like the soup nazi would be ignored today instead of placated in the world of Seinfeld.
I found it annoying. It's hipster, self-awareness wasn't funny.
Best show evan!
Oy - the Soup Nazi! For a while I lived in the building next door to his establishment, where the fumes from the several flavors of soup he'd offer each day would seep in as a nauseating cloud.
I didn't watch the show when it was first run, but truly enjoy the reruns, especially Jerry's visits to Florida! Elaine is annoying, I fully agree. My folks are fans of Kramer, although he's a bit too much for me. Mostly, I enjoy the scrapes they get into each time as a group.
Loved it until the last couple of seasons when Larry David left.
Larry David was likely the true creative force of the show.
Seinfeld did five minutes on Letterman last night and sort of bombed. Did anyone else catch it?
I loved it, but have never liked Larry david's work since. Part of the reason "Seinfeld" worked so well is that George was such an asshole but he never got anywhere--whereas the equally assholish Larry character on "Curb Your Enthusiasm" is an unassailable millionaire.
Larry isn't an asshole r20, he just calls people out on their shit, even if they are wheelchair bound..Cobb salad inventor my ass...
Also from the Soup Nazzi episode. Kramer in danger!
[quote]The stories and the jokes still hold up, but you do see things that appear dated like the cordless land-line telephones and the answering machines.
I don't see why people get so bothered about dated technology and fashion. OF COURSE everything will eventually look dated - the important thing is if the show holds up and I think Seinfeld does.
R20, that is what makes the show work. Larry has "fuck you" money so he can say what is really on his mind. And, much of the time, he isn't wrong. For instance, when he starts berating the woman at the gelato shop who has to taste every. single. flavor. before choosing.
"Oh, what a surprise. Vanilla tastes like vanilla!"
I'd love to be in his position one day.
I think it's Time Warner that owns the syndication rights. They had a bad year an in their report to investors, they highlighted their one bright spot: Seinfeld has earned more than $1 billion since it went off the air--that's $1 billion since 1998 alone. Each episode is now valued at something like $14 million.
I adore Elaine. I think she's one of the funniest comedy creations of all time.
That fact that he's entitled and a millionaire makes him more assailable to the audience, IMO.
I love the trips to Florida or anything with Jerry's parents and the Coztanza's. I swear I have heard the same themes and pettiness coming from my parents or older relatives at one time or another. (I'm not Jewish.)
Yea Elaine was bad but the show wasn't. I still watch it.
[quote]I don't see why people get so bothered about dated technology and fashion
Obviously the technology on the show appears dated; god only knows how many storylines wouldn't have worked if the characters had cell phones. However, the reason I think the show will hold up in perpetuity is because the heart of the comedy is its insight into human behaviors and mannerisms, and those will never change.
Surely you creative and hilarious DL'ers can think up a few Modern Seinfeld plots.
I got caught up in the finale mania. I watched a few reruns in the weeks prior to the finale then watched the finale. It was the only episode of the show I watched on it's original airing. I never laughed. It was a clever show, it just never made me laugh. I haven't watched it since.
Gay porn star Andre Bolla is an extra in two scenes in the "Soup Nazi" episode.
[quote]I got caught up in the finale mania. I watched a few reruns in the weeks prior to the finale then watched the finale. It was the only episode of the show I watched on it's original airing. I never laughed.
Why would you laugh? The finale brought back every character the gang did wrong. It was clever and magic for us fans but probably made no sense to you. Too bad for you, you haven't watched it since.
I thought that show was great. It seemed to cover every foible of life like having to pee when there isn't a place to do so but should be--the one where Jerry was caught in a parking garage. Kramer was probably my favorite and Elaine's boss at the catalog place next. I wanted to desperately fuck Kramer's ass and spank him then make love to him like there was no tomorrow. The only thing is, I cut a slit in the back of Kramer's pants and stick my dick in and fuck all I want, he doesn't pull his pants down. Then after I have had my fill of squashing his behind he has to continue wearing those pants with the ripped open hole in the back. Another one was where Elaine has a backache from sleeping on Jerry's parents' sofa-bed. She takes painkillers that make her dopey and is introduced to Uncle Leo's girlfriend Stella. She yells STELLAAAAA!! like Stanley Kowalski. Almost all of Elaine's boyfriends I wanted to fuck, including David Puddi and the Communist one who looked like Trotsky.
George and Elaine are my favorite characters.
What about Ramon, the pool boy that Jerry got fired? That was one of the best ones, he keeps running into Ramon all over town and the guy latches onto him ala the Cable guy. All the guys who still work at the gym assume Jerry and Ramon are really friends, "Are you going out with Ramon? Tell him I said hi, tell him Dustin said hi!" That was a good one, there were a lot of good ones that will come to me later but I always think of Dustin and Ramon when I tell someone to tell someone "hi" for me.
The ugly baby, man hands and the spongeworthy episodes are the only episodes I remember.
The show was... BREATHTAKIKNG.
Except for the last season. That was a waste. And I hated the finale. It was almost as bad as Roseanne's.
Kramer's shtick wore thin after a while. Towards the end he was a complete caricature. Annoying as fuck. Now that I know Michael Richards is a douchbag racist, that makes me hate Kramer all the more.
I said "snuggly, what a snuggly baby!" Kramer said the baby looked liked Lyndon B. Johnson..I love Kramer. How about when Mel Torme met Kramer and thought he was retarded? I love that one too. Good times.
I've seen every episode of "Seinfeld" multiple times, but if it's on as I'm clicking through channels, I'll stop and watch it again. Except for perhaps the Puerto Rican Parade episode and a few others from the last season, which was not so good.
The "Curb" episodes about the fake reunion are equally amazing. Love everyone telling Larry that people want him to make up for screwing up the finale and he gets so defensive - "That was a good finale!" And his relationship with Jason Alexander is gold, Jerry - GOLD!
Soup isn't a meal. You owe me a meal, come on, I gave you an Armani suit...It's the best, Jerry, the best!
If this were a straight site, the thread would be near 600 posts now. Most gay men hate this show - only a weird minority are fond of it.
Another good episode is the "Ladies' glasses" and the dog bite. The Iranian doctor who doesn't understand that Elaine wasn't shot but was asking for a rabies shot because of her dog bite, "No, not shot, dog bite. Not bang bang, woof woof, dog bite." and Kramer talking to George about his Gloria Vanderbilt glasses, " Excuse me madam, can you pass the juice? I'm calling you madam because you're wearing ladies' glasses." George then trying to pass off the glasses on a blind man. That was a classic.
Maybe that's why I've been called a queer queer r46, a minority within a minority.
I still want to flatten Kramer's ass.....
Hipster NYC Jews, it was brilliant and bold. I had to erase the finale from my mind but I love them all.
Seinfeld's ass and Terry Hatcher's breasts were magnificent.
The most clever show ever. No heart but it didn't need one.