Andrew Sullivan, Gay Catholic Blogger, Speculates Pope Is Gay
"So Benedict’s handsome male companion will continue to live with him, while working for the other Pope during the day," Sullivan writes. "Are we supposed to think that’s, well, a normal arrangement?"
Clearly, Sullivan does not.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/02/27/andrew-sullivan-pope-is-gay_n_2776603.html?utm_hp_ref=religion
- I hate Andrew Sullivan with a passion. A complete douche.
As to the Pope's attendant well the Catholic church hates women and sex. So no way would they pair up such a high ranking member of the Church with a woman whom might "tempt" him or a nun who'd be too unworthy of His presence.
- As a former priest, who was celibate until I left the priesthood, I can say that this really is normal in the world of priests. As strange as it seems. a priest can be seen with other males and not be thought of as gay by fellow priest and parishioners, but if his friend is a woman, there's a great amount of conjecture that they are having an affair. It is such a sick world. Sully might be right that the Pope is gay, but this situation is no proof of that.
- Andrew can write the Pope's coming out letter the way he did for Anderson Cooper.
- Milky.
Loads.
- R2, how old were you when you left the priesthood? Do you still have your faith? I considered it very seriously. But -- much to my Mother's unhappiness....
Gay%20Catholic%20--%20and%20I%20I%20know%20how%20that%20sounds.
- wow
- [quote]a woman whom might "tempt" him
O.%20Dear
- Georg Gaeswein (sp?) is long-rumored to be Benny's partner.
- Face it, the Pope is old and ugly. If this is a gay relationship, Gaeswein must be in it for the fame and fortune, cause it sure as hell can't be physical.
Sugar daddy, maybe?
Shuddering as I type at the thought.
- Gay swine?
- OP, Sullivan is right. Do you disagree?
- "Sullivan concluded that it "seems pretty obvious" that "the current Pope is "a gay man," albeit one who has not "explored his sexuality, or has violated his own strictures on the matter.""
Why is it obvious that he has not explored his sexuality or violated his own strictures, Andrew?
And does you adding this take credibility away from you first statement: the much more persuasive suggestion that the Pope is gay?
By saying both you seem to lose steam, have it both ways, and underscore that you are jumping to conclusions in the style of DL posts which base beliefs on "you just know"
Mind you I find it not at all surprising that the Pope is actively gay, I just don't understand Sullivan's saying the same thing but also saying that he must be celibate. Why is it so hard to believe that the Pope isn't celibate and is just a huge fucking hypocrite?
- r9, they've been together since Georg was ordained in 1984 at 28, when Joe was his "mentor."
- And you *know* how they pronounce Georg where they're from.
- lovers, although the mental image is atrocious.
- Why on earth wouldn't you just link to the source, OP? What is wrong with you?
http://dish.andrewsullivan.com/2013/02/27/two-popes-one-secretary/
- "Face it, the Pope is old and ugly. If this is a gay relationship, Gaeswein must be in it for the fame and fortune, cause it sure as hell can't be physical."
You don't think having the Pope as your boyfriend isn't motivation enough to hang with the old geezer?
- Better check the vault inventories.
- Georg looks like Tom Tryon in The Cardinal. Which just happens to be playing on TCM this very moment, in case anyone is interested.
- ys
- Quite a while ago, Dear Sully put up a photo of Georg fussily fussing with Popey's cape with the caption: "They LOOK like an old married couple to me!"
- Homosexual relationships are ultimately emotional. The emotion extends to sexual
- obviously pope benedict is gay, and he is a crook, too
- Spot on!
- Georg sounds like a house boy.
- I think for this lot, power and structure substitutes for sex. I mean the ones who make it through the ranks of the church hierarchy to the really really super top. The Vatican, and the church hierarchy, is a total bitch nest. The only difference between them and run of the mill politicians is they have largely mastered discretion.
I'm not saying tons of priests aren't gay, just that when you ascend into the big church leagues, you're a master player and getting naked is about the last thing you need to do to get off.
- How much does a pope make? Is it a salaried position? How about benefits?
- There's a good medical program for everyone at the Vatican, known at Popecare. Since there is no pope right now, they all just lost their medical benefits until there's a new pope.
- I imagine fucking the Pope's wrinkly old ass while he screams "Oh God, oh God" while wearing only his crucifix and red Prada shoes must be quite surreal.
- Well, it certainly wouldn't be very pretty to look at.
- I suspect a very high percentage of people in the catholic church are gay. Either that or in love with the virgin Mary.
Anonymous
- Both true
- Please, we do not want the Nazi, say it isn't so.
- I'd like to see Sully write about Pope Paul VI also. There are probably some interesting stories from that reign.
- I love Vatican drama. So fucked up. It's like you combined the gay drama and egos of a broadway backstage and the petty and complicated politics of a administrative office.
-Georg was put on a Vanity Fair cover (not with the Vatican's permission or his apparently) shortly before the Pope left. Embarrassing for the Vatican that this guy was getting rock star treatment in Italy?
-Georg was supposedly seen sneaking around with a woman, and that was causing a different type of speculation. I wonder if Georg was using the pope for power/influence and stringing him along. But maybe I just can't picture anyone wanting to spend their life attached to an elderly bridge troll.
- $$$$$$$$$$$$$
- True R36, but what's the point of $$$$$$$$$$$$ if you can only spend on new fancy clergy mumuus and with your wizened pope boyfriend.
- Georg is a ski champ and pilot so he's not popeing 24/7.
- The story that he is gay was reported in the gay press when he was appointed. Old news Andrew.
- Isn't is assumed that almost all the popes gay?
What straight guy would voluntarily spend their life never fucking a woman, and cloistered with a bunch of men?