The hindu-muslim conflict in Pakistan/India. When did all this start?
The Move about Mahatma Gandhi is on TMC and it makes it appear as if the British partitian of India is what started all the conflicts, but it can't be that simple.
If these people were living together before all that - why couldn't they have laws that allowed for all religions and let everyone live in their own homeland.
Can any historians here described what really happened?
When the Moghuls invaded and started demolishing temples and building mosques on their sites. It's the seemingly inately, violent, missionary nature of Islam (and Christianity) that fucked the world. Hinduism is not a missionary religion, bent on converting heathens - it respects other religions. Indian culture on the other hand is sometimes as babaric as Islam!
Serbs and Croats hated each other before Tito died, yet they didn't have the opportunity to engage in warfare. India was the same under the Brits. Long-simmering resentment boiling over at last.
The US has Balkanized.
All that is missing is a war (for now).
As the Indian independence movement gained force after World War I Mohammed Ali Jinnah, a lawyer as was Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi, began to emphasize a role for Indian Muslims out of concern that the new post independence government would be Hindu dominated resulting in discrimination against Muslims. It evolved into partition of British India into Pakistan and India based upon predominance of whatever population was where. In the early '70s East Pakistan declared its independence as Bangladesh. The roots for this conflict date back to the first Muslim conquests of India--the Muslims offered freedom from caste, especially for the untouchables. The British were an outside power neither Hindu nor Muslim but when they left the Hindu-Muslim question arose once again. Gandhi's solution was to have the first Prime Minister be a Muslim to keep British India together in independence which was never tried.
Religion, isn't it lovely?
r3, as far as the US is concerned I think there may be something in what you said although what will set it off? Will it be worse than the riots of the 1960s? Can we assume it will be based upon race and economics? The US is an armed camp; I'm wondering if it could ever boil down to the army fighting against civilians.
Muslims are foul creatures
Serbs are Eastern Orthodox, Croats are Roman Catholic.
So yes religion again.
Started with a quarrel over instant rice.
Escalated from there.
You can never escape caste. Even if your family converted a hundred years ago, Hindus know. My ex was a high-caste Hindu and I remember speaking about an Indian Christian I met. He asked the name and where the person was from and what denomination, and from that he said this guys ancestors people were poor fishermen of a low (but not untouchable) caste. Hindus are super-aware of this stuff, not matter how much they say it has changed.
The English are to blame. Duh.
And they're bringing that caste BS over here now, r10, as exemplified by your charming ex and many others.