I'm tired of pundits psycho-analyzing GW Bush's presidency

The idea that he had to go into Iraq and get Saddam Hussein because he had Daddy issues is ludicrous. I don't give a fuck what his personal issues were, he was the President and he was responsible for sending thousands of people to die over a lie. Can we please not reduce the reality of this issue to a couch-psychologist 's discussion of Freudian issues?

• I don't ever see anyone discussing george or his presidency. I fairly certain the entire world, including me is trying to forget he ever existed

  Pickles - posting from MY house in Dallas

• Agree with OP and R2. Worst fucking president ever. Tune into the Rachel Maddow show tonight. She's doing a documentary on the Iraq war called Hubris

• Thanks for the reminder r2...

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• Speaking of...Rachel Maddow is debuting "Hubris" documentary tonight at 9 EST. Can someone start a thread please? It is supposedly going to make Chaney's head explode. I want the whole country to watch, not just the MSNBC watchers.

• he was a terrible president

• And yet you posted OP, you posted.

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• Don't think for a minute that daddy issues didn't play a role. These neocons are reactive and stupid. Cheney and co. were thrilled to have all the patsies they wanted. The remarkable thing to me is-even after all these years, the republican cowards are still keeping all the myths alive about 911 and Iraq, and still defending the invasion and everything that went with it. Anyone notice how none of Patriot Romney's sons were affected by any of it ??

• "Hubris" on no

  http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2013/02/hubris-rachel-maddow-documentary-iraq-war-david-corn

• Surely there were other causes (such as the relentless Neo-Con drumbeat), but at the same time I think we can be sure that we would not have gone to war against Iraq had Saddam Hussein not made the deplorable mistake of trying to assassinate W's father.

• Why does DL always call Laura "Pickles"? I wasn't around during the W administration. Please fill me in.

• Maybe Bush had daddy issues, but the impulses motivating the Neo Cons, Cheney Wolfowitz, Libby,and that whole crowd, were subduing the middle east and getting fat off Haliburton and oil leases. It's always about money and influence.

• Girls in rich families older than dirt Who go to sororities have nicknames that flirt. Muffy and Fluffy, and Soo-Soo are given, One woman I know is called "Fuzzy Pink" Niven! Named after her choices in warm fluffy slipper. And then there's the name of Mrs. Gore: Tipper. There's Maxie and Whizzwee, the names are absurd! But those are the names of the matrons I've heard. I've heard some called Poochie or Peaches like that. It's an Ivy League custom of the monied éclat. I'd bet it's a name she picked up in college At least SHE (unlike Dubya) acquired some knowledge. At Vassar or Bryn Mawr where lineage glisters, Or any old college known as "Seven Sisters" The wildest of names, on dance cards you'll see As debutants vie for their "Mrs." Decree! After marriage the custom is keeping the 'name' Even if in later years, it seems rather lame. Long gone is her girlhood, but that name still tickles, And THAT is the origin of the First Lady, "Pickles"!

• Bravo/a, R12!

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• I'm jealous R12.

  Dr. S

• This is also about Peak Oil. There was no push for "democracy" or weapons or anything else. We went to war for oil. Watch "The End of Suburbia," especially the second half, for a more detailed explanation.

• R15 is correct. The motivation for going into Iraq was the same as the motivation of all wars: money.

• I love, love, love R12

• Nice r12. Did you write the original post in Dem. Underground ? It's very good.

  http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php%3Faz%3Dview_all%26address%3D105x1001484

• But Bush did to go into Iraq and get Saddam Hussein because of his Daddy issues: HIS FATHER HATES HIM. DUMB ASSHOLE AMERICANS ELECTED HIM (sort of) It's very reasonable.

• If he went after Saddam due to his father, I doubt it was "for" daddy. More likely he did it for mommy to show her he's better than daddy. Definite Oedipus complex.

• Wasn't there some stink about one of the first buildings the troops occupied was the old Hotel Baghdad that had a picture of HW Bush on the floor so they could walk on him?