Because it's seldomly seen, and as rare as a unicorn?
They don't "try"
They just "are"
My pussy is intoxicating!
Oh shit, THIS again?
Please provide an example of such a thing.
For some reason, all I can picture is my dad laid back in his recliner, farting, burping, scratching his balls, watching football, and barking orders at my Mom - and yes, he was usually intoxicated as well.
[quote]Please provide an example of such a thing.
Daniel Craig. Steve McQueen.
[quote]Daniel Craig. Steve McQueen.
They were/are movie actors...spewing lines that had been written by someone else.
Edited, well lit...
You sound very silly indeed, actually.
Mark Wahlberg, Victor Cruz
I don't think there is such thing. It's all about wanting to be accepted by the pack. Nothing effortless about it.
proud masculine gay must be mentioned in a thread like this. and then laughed at hysterically.
Testosterone is usually involved. Maybe some men have more of it than others?
R5. Am I your father? I've been looking for you.
R12: You silly billy -- you made me laugh!
Unselfconscious and easygoing. Self-reliant. A lot of gay men have had to be selfconscious from day one. They yearn for the ease, confidence and uncomplicated outlook of natural masculinity.
Gay men live in their mirrors.
Nothing "effortless" about them.
A real turn off.
Masculinity is a turn-on; but, fashion influences our perceptions of it greatly; no one would consider Louis XIV maculine today - with his wigs and red soled high heels, but in his day ...
Sean Connery in Dr. No - my favorite.
That said - the biggest tip off that a guy is bi but trying to seem straight is a preocupation with his appearance - usually not obvious, but if you pay attention ...
(They usually do a terrible job on their appearance and need desperate help, BTW.)
R1 is right. I know tons of genuinely straight men, but few of them exude a masculinity that isn't somewhat inauthentic.
Nelly the rapper
Edgar Ramirez, yes. Bradley Cooper, no. Keanu, doesn't give a shit.
R20 is the winner. Football Players. No existing actor that I can think of would fit the bill.
Know some in college and pro players, they are completely in this zone.
R19 eat shit!!!!!!!
There is very little masculinity left anymore because women have taken over the world. Even basketball players are trying to hide their male bodies in big flouncy cullottes instead of wearing gym shorts. The fathers abandon their sons and the women feminize them any way they can, and teach them to be submissive to women. The first act of a woman toward a son is usually to pay the doctor to cut off part of his genitals.
Actually, it's the gay fashionistas who convinced straight men to shave their armpits. Women had nothing to do with it.
There are no 8 year old kids who are masculine. All masculinity is taught. Some kids cannot be taught.
Like Katharine Hepburn.
"Why is it so damn intoxicating?"
It isn't to me. I prefer feminine guys. Unfortunately, when I think of "Natural, effortless masculinity", the first thing that comes to mind is "The Most Interesting Man in the World", and he's a caricature.
Everyone likes to think they're more masculine than they really are. You never ever hear gay guys going around telling everyone about how [childish epithet posted by a bigoted tool] they are. It's so fucked up, this whole gender societal concept apparatus that we're stuck in. It perpetuates self hate and is ingrained within us from very early on.
From the moment we're born our parents assign us a "boy name or girl name". They treat us differently. They paint our rooms blue or pink. They buy us toy guns or Barbie dolls. From the very day we're born we are made to feel like we should act in a certain way and when we don't live up to that false perception of how we should act, we feel alienated and not good enough.
I think Hugh Jackman and Bradley Cooper have natural, effortless masculinity. And the bods to back it up.
r30, you're a freak. Women have nothing to do with the design of men's basketball uniforms; if anything, male homophobia has driven the shift from tight little gym shorts to long, baggy shorts that conceal the players' asses and packages.
And in most hetero families I know, the *father* (as the parent who actually has a dick) made the decision about whether his son(s) would be circumcised. BTW, circumcision is much less routine and automatic in the US today than it was 50 years ago, so if indeed women have taken over the world, they must tend to be *against* circumcision.
I think R39 is blind.
Max Von Sydow
Tommy Lee Jones
Actually R41, I think it was some skin disease that Michael Jordan had that caused the whole shift.
Sorry, just had to add Rod Taylor.
Charles Nelson Reilly
Jm J. Bullock
Mike Rowe. Too bad he's such a jerk.
r38- dyke professor of gender studies. Go shave you pits
That's so funny R45. No doubt everyone is aching from laughing. Thanks for having such a wonderfully wicked sense of humor.
Bea's dick is bigger than yours, R52.
Don't mess with Bea, now. She is a DL Patron Saint!
[quote]Don't mess with Bea, now. She is a DL Patron Saint!
So sorry. I must be new here. And I never heard about cak, graxy, and 34,124 unfunny posts by Helen Lawson.