A pie is one of those pastries with a sweet or savoury filling. I just don't associate pizza with pie.
Because it's (almost always) round and gets cut into wedges?
No one cares, OP.
They needed something to rhyme with "eye" in "That's Amore."
It's an Italian thing.
Faux Naive troll--you're getting really boring.
Pizza is pie in Italian.
R5 Go fuck your rancid cunt with something hard and sand-papery you twat.
It's more like a tartine, isn't it?
You paid $18 to post THIS? Sad, really.
It's round food, dumbass!
R6, the Italian word for "pie" is not "pizza". The word for a sweet pie (e.g., filled with fruit) is "torta" -- for a savory pie (e.g., filled with meat) the word is "pasticcio".
As a child in the midwest during the fifties, people referred to pizza as "pizza pie" -- probably an American term not used in Italy (& maybe not used much here anymore).
In Chicago it is pie.
Why do some refer to vagina as pie? It's certainly not a pie, nor is it round, however it can be italian. Maybe it's a fifties thing.
Dumbest Thread Ever.
The latest thread topics have been so shitty.
It has a crust and filling (toppings). Thread closed.
I log on for celeb gossip and THIS is what is here? ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ
Who wants to bet the OP's education level? Did he even complete the GED?
To everyone who complained about the thread: Was there someone holding a gun to your head and forcing you to click on the link? No? Then STFU.
I just find it annoying when people insist on calling it "pizza pie." These people are usually elder. There's no reason to say that, let alone be adamant about it.
But no, no..."pizza" does not translate to "pie" as Americans know it.
And, R12, it borders upon casserole there.
When pizza first became popular in the U.S. (back in the fifties and sixties), it was always called a pizza pie. So it wasn't "some people", it was everyone. But as pizza became commonplace, and franchises emerged, people just started calling it "pizza".
I don't know what they say in Italy, but I grew up in an Italian neighborhood in NY and everyone called it a pizza pie.
Saw a sign on Long Beach Island, New Jersey for Tomato Pies.
My best friend is from an old school Italian neighborhood in the Bronx and whenever he wants to go for pizza he always says "Let's go for a pie!" which really confused me for the first year that I knew him...
So did I and so did my dad, R21. "Pizza pie" is a term that probably began in order to assimilate the food into American culture. This may have been started by Italian-Americans, but that doesn't make it correct. What I'm saying is that it's dated and ridiculous to keep saying "pizza pie." So is "tuna fish."
You wouldn't say "torta de pizza," which is actually a completely different dish.
Italian-Americans got all kinds of terms wonky, relative to their counterparts in Italian. Pizza doesn't translate to pie like it's known in the USA, but it was guessed by Italian-Americans as a blanket term to encompass pies, because "pizza" is their base idea of pie, like apple pie is the American unit.
The etymology is disputed, but "pizza" means "pizza" in Italy, in the sense of having a flatbread or flat-ish bread with topping(s).
When I was young I worked as a bank teller and a guy used to come in with bad checks. I had his number. His name was August D'Amore.
So I'd sing
"He comes in with no cash and a bad check to pass" "That's D'Amore". Lost on the other tellers.
It was a time when Farrah Fawcett's hair was in vogue and a really ugly woman had tried the hairstyle. I told her she looked like Voltaire. Lost on the other tellers.
But still laugh at my own jokes
I grew up in CT. We called it "pizza" or "pie" (let's go grab a pie), but never "pizza pie".
In my world, we refer to pizza as "globules of fat that lead to fewer sexual encounters."
It obviously is a bad translation like "gravy". Some things are difficult if not impossible to translate. There is no American equivalent to "pizza". Pizza is Pizza. Quiche is Quiche. Spaetzle is spaetzle. I hate it when someone refers to spaetzle as noodles. Yeh, I mean you Dick and Oscar.
R27 A good pizza is better than sex.
R25, you are hilarious and I appreciate your sense of humour. Too bad about the ignoramuses with whom you worked.
r28, the "gravy" thing is a hot button issue with Italian Americans. Any Italian American I've met has always said how much they hate the term "gravy" and how shows like The Sopranos popularized it. I've simply never her this in the New York tri-state area.
[quote]It was a time when Farrah Fawcett's hair was in vogue and a really ugly woman had tried the hairstyle. I told her she looked like Voltaire. Lost on the other tellers.
[quote]My best friend is from an old school Italian neighborhood in the Bronx and whenever he wants to go for pizza he always says "Let's go for a pie!" which really confused me for the first year that I knew him...
It took you an entire year to remember he used the word 'pie' for 'pizza'? Are you touched in the head?
[quote]When pizza first became popular in the U.S. (back in the fifties and sixties), it was always called a pizza pie
No it wasn't, and my Italian great grandmother would smack you up side the head if she were still alive right now.
[quote]In my world, we refer to pizza as "globules of fat that lead to fewer sexual encounters."
Then why isn't everyone obese in Italy?
Does anyone recall the drive-in theatre intermission commercials enticing the people to come to the snack stand for "a hot tomato pie".?
OK I"m Old already
People who say pie are the same flyovers who say pop for soda.
My BILs family called it gravy (all Italian-American). We called it sauce but my parents were born in Italy.
Gravy may have been a mistranslation, but it's part of the culture now.
It really only refers to meat sauces, btw.
Who the fuck cares? Seriously. Jesus, I need to get off DL. Gays are so fucking lame.
[quote]People who say pie are the same flyovers who say pop for soda.
Here's the answer, DLers. Gravy has meat. Sauce doesn't.
Mary Ann Esposito, Ciao Italia
New York's first pizzeria Lombardi's opened on Spring Street in 1897. To this day no employee has uttered the word "pie."
Calling pizza "pie" sounds ethnic. Calling soda "pop" sounds backward, something a hick would say.
For OP why do some people call it soda, while others call it pop & some call it soda pop?
In Boston, soda and pop is Tonic.
I think in some parts of the country all carbonated beverages are referred to as "coke."
People around New Haven, Connecticut call pizza "abeets" or apizza.
I agree OP/the Faux naive Troll has become intolerable.
"Why do British people say 'in hospital'? Why do some people call a pizza a pie? What's a battle?"
When I was a kid, our pizza came from a pizza "parlor."
I believe Barney Rubble started it.
Despite what American Italians say, they have very little in common with Italian Italians. They're always going on about the old country, etc., but it's all talk. All of the Italian Italians I know laugh at American Italians and call them uncultured and vulgar.
[quote]R6, the Italian word for "pie" is not "pizza". The word for a sweet pie (e.g., filled with fruit) is "torta" -- for a savory pie (e.g., filled with meat) the word is "pasticcio".
FWIW, when I was growing up, my family used to refer to Easter pies as [italic]pizza dolce[/italic] like the one at the link.
R51, are these "Italian Italians" you refer to from the north or the south of Italy? I ask because there really are two Italys, and most Italian Americans are of southern Italian decsent and eat diferently than those from the north.
As far as the reference earlier in the thread about pizza being "globules of fat" - it depends on how it's made.
For example my grandmother, who was Sicilian, never put mozzarella on pizza. Her pizza contained tomatoes, oregano, salt/pepper, grated pecorino & olive oil. The other Sicilians who lived in my neighborhood did the same. Sometimes they put anchovies or chopped hot peppers on top. But no one put on mozzarella - which I think is more common with the Neopolitan and Calabrian style of making pizza.
[quote]People who say pie are the same flyovers who say pop for soda.
Well, that's exactly wrong. The people who say pie instead of pizza are all from the mid-Atlantic and New England states; people who say pop instead of soda are Midwesterners and Westerners.
You just don't get out of your mother's little basement at all, do you?
There were a lot of parlors when I was a kid. Pizza parlors, beauty parlors and betting parlors
When I was a kid in NY, pizzas were pies, but we would go get a "slice" because, as others have said, it was sold in parlors, and you didn't order a whole pizza. Also, it wasn't covered with mozzarella, it had a couple of one inch round thin slices of the cheese on each slice like pepperoni.
I don't give a shit what you call it, I love pizza.
Of course it may date back to the British tradition of meat pies, a pie can be anything. IN the South we make tomato pie, chicken pot pie, in fact there are a ton of savory pies in America.
Some refer to vagina as cake.
Whenever I order pizza I say "can I get a large pie half pepperoni half plain"
Referring to pizza as "pie" has become increasingly hip among the urban foodies and critics. Lately, I never read a review about a restaurant serving pizza in which the author doesn't refer to it as "pie" at one point.
One thing I've learned...the cooler a pizza place fancies itself....the more expensive,attitudy and overrated it is.
Apizza Scholls...I'm talkin' to ya assholes.
Is it a NY/NJ thing? I grew up there, and it was a valid name for fruit, cream, or pizza. In my life, it depended who was saying it, my father (pizza) or my grandmother (the dessert kind).
Chicago's stuffed pizza really is a pie. That's probably why they thought of it.
OP, your response to the poster at R5 asking for a respite from the faux-naive troll was a bit over the top, since the person obviously was speaking for a large majority of posters here.
Also, R5 obviously is neither a twat or a cunt, since none of the women on the DL would have the resolve to post a put-down on aesthetic grounds. They only demand respite from people joking about dead puppies.
But suggesting a misplaced Farah do made a woman look like Voltaire was cute, R25. Sorry it was lost on your bankmates. I once complained to an English Lit. teacher in class that complaining about Joyce Kilmer was unnecessarily obvious, rather like beating a dead horse chestnut. She was not amused. So sometimes mere ignorance isn't the only reason our little sparklers fail to dazzle others.
As a youngster, my italan grandpa used to make pizza on Saturdays for lunch. It was delicious. Crispy, crunchy, cheesey, deep tomato, oregano, rosemary, garlic, basil taste. When I i was a teenager, i went with a gang of friends for something they called "tomato pie". It was just icky. Doughy and tasteless. Later, I discovered that this was what Americans called "pizza". .. I don't eat it. I make my own.
Because Fuck You, That's why.
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r35- have you ever been to Italy and had a pizza there? It's completely different than American pie. Very thin crust, no tomato sauce, pepperoni slices, very little cheese. I went there as a kid and was completely disappointed in the pizza (having grown up on Chicago pizza). As an adult, I would appreciate it now.