I try not to buy clothing that has been made in China.
I was at the men's clothing store Thomas Pink in Dublin today, shopping for a birthday gift for my brother. The China-made silk shirts there retail at €300 (roughly $345.) I walked out without buying anything.
Daaaaamn. I wish I had a brother who was willing to buy me a Thomas Pink shirt.
No, however I am put off by synthetics. I have no synthetic fabric in wardrobe and I never will.
R8 = Mallory Keaton
No...say all the sheeple with their made in China Apple i-Shit. Everything is made in China today. If you want quality made clothes then pick your own cotton, buy a loom and a sewing machine and make your own clothes.
Yes. If they are charging high-end prices they can at least pay decent wages to seamstresses in Portugal or Bulgaria or El Salvador. Tacky.
[quote]So important for genuine upper-middle-class standing is the total renunciation of artificial fibers that the elite eye becomes skilled in detecting even, as The Official Preppy Handbook has it, "a small percentage of polyester in an Oxford-cloth shirt"--a sad middle-caste mark. The same invaluable book praises young Caroline Kennedy unreservedly--"on technical points Preppier than Mummy"--because "during four years at Harvard Square, an unnatural fiber never went near her body."
Like others point out, good luck finding anything not made in China.
That said, I must admit I do get off buying a garment that came from a factory where little children were burnt alive in a factory fire because of the unsafe conditions. It just adds to the value of my purchase.
I don't give a fuck about the dictates of the Preppy Handbook. It was meant as satire, at least until millions of dim Americans took every word as a Guide to Gracious Living.
Oh poor OP, reject the made in china label all you want. Your pitiful opinion won't really matter because you are just ONE in 300 million people who buy Chinese products.
I have no desire to be defiant, have influence, or make a difference, R15. I was questioning my own hypocrisy and would-be snobbery, and was curious as to how other posters responded to the "Made in China" label. Your interpretation of my post couldn't be more wrong.
I wouldn't be put off if the store had said, "We're moving all production to China, so the same shirt you used to pay 345 dollars for will now retail at 200."
But of course they keep the retail price steady...
I was in a William Sonoma store on Rodeo Dr in Bev Hills, day before yesterday. I was curious if their merchandise was more up scale that our WS in Manhattan Beach. They were selling high polished metal kitchen utensils of fairly heavy metal under their house name. The spatula was 35.00. I turned the flipper over and it was marked, Made in China. I left the store thinking what a ripoff company. I wasn't going to buy the item, but I had no interest in anything else they were selling.
Yes. I don't care what the label is and how expensive it may be.
£300 is more like $465.
For Christmas I received Penguin polo shirt and the tags included in the packaging went on and on about the quality workmanship and care that goes into making the garment only to find the made in China tag on the collar. Although it did say made in China in about 3 different languages which is something different as tags go. That was definitely disappointing. I have yet to wear the item as it is winter, but by outward appearance the fabric, buttons, etc don't appear to be of significantly greater quality and this was an expensive shirt compared to the prices you would pay for a similar product at most retailers.
There is one exception to the made in China rule. An acquaintance who has worked in the apparel industry for years as a direct distributor for the factories told me that the best cashmere in the world actually comes from the mountainous regions in China so for luxury goods such as Cashmere sweaters, a Chinese yarn with the made in China label is actually desirable if not coveted.
Yeah, I saw that about 10 seconds after I posted.
Sorry. Carry on.
I won't buy expensive Chinese clothes either, OP. The worst are shoes. Chinese or Indian shoes for $300? Fuck, off!
r21, a fine thread/fabric will be sold to a manufacturer. Italy, Australia, US, and then marketed.
Loro Piana is the best example.
Highest quality Chinese product.
The newer Givenchy menswear has items that were made in China. How am I supposed to be rockstar chic while wearing this shit?!
[quote]at least until millions of dim Americans took every word as a Guide to Gracious Living.
This didn't happen.
Huge put off.
I don't care about price, but if a store wants to charge $135.00 for a shirt made in China I will not buy. Are you listening Orvis. Manufacture it in the U.S. then I'll buy.
I'm not at all put off.
Shanghai Tang, for instance, is an excellent fashion brand. There may be other luxury fashion brands from China (although I'm not away from them).
Not to mention, of course, that a great many big designer labels not associated with China have a great deal of their clothes made in China.
Of course. It's a huge, immediate red flag that the product is shabby and won't last. People rally around "made in China" in a show of false-flag populism, so they have an excuse to completely surrender all discernment in consumption.
[quote]I try not to buy clothing that has been made in China.
If it's not made in China, then it's made in some other shithole country. Why on earth would anyone buy a "luxury" item if it's made in China just like all the other shit? Are ANY clothing labels actually made in the US, England, Italy, or France anymore?
Hermès is apparently still made in France.
I've seen "Made in China" labels on clothing from Joseph, Helmut Lang, Marc Jacobs, and many other designers.
Are you saying my Burberry...err...Buebelly...scarf isn't of the highest quality?
R35 Wow, that's crazy! I've never had the money to buy designer clothes, but knowing that supposedly high-end designers make their shit in China just like affordable labels makes me realize I'm not missing anything.
Hermes is indeed one of few remaining luxury brands that won't compromise quality for larger profit. The book linked below is quite informative and an interesting read:
I stopped buying made in China shirts when Bergdoff stopped giving away free fortune cookies with each purchase.
You can't do any better than the Jaclyn Smith collection at J.C. Penny, bitches!
"Made in China Luxury" is an Oxymoron.
OP/R4, does Thomas Pink sell men's silk shirts ? Only I can't find them on their website... Maybe it's an Extremely Special Textile
agree with R42
Yes, of course.
If I had the money, I would have all my clothes made by hand locally.
One person interviewed for the movie "The Corporation" showed a room full of goods for which he had been able to obtain manufacturing information.
The figures were appalling. Most of the clothing items (running shoes, suit jackets, and so on) had retail prices around $200. And, in almost every case, the person who made a $200 item received less than 20 cents.
Our sleazy, thieving manufacturers could pay those people 10 times as much and STILL make out like bandits. Yet, they claim prices would have to increase dramatically if they paid anyone a living wage.
Sadly, it's getting harder every year to avoid supporting that system. No matter what you need to buy, it was probably made in China.
I also agree with R42
A lot of high-end fashion brands have production in China now, from Michael Kors to Prada to Herve Leger. The belief that anything that's made in China must be crappy and bad-quality isn't always the case. iPhones are made in China. Labor isn't as cheap there as it used to be, and many companies are moving their production to places like Pakistan and Bangladesh. I'd be more wary of anything that's made in those places, especially because of the working conditions.
I love Anges b. Most of their clothing is made in France, with the exception of cashmere which is made in China. I will buy anything from them except their cashmere.
Made in China is its own brand.
You are not wearing "Prada", you are wearing made in China Dollarama crap, with a Prada name on it. When people start to realize this, they will stop paying a premium for Made in China crap because of a name attached to it.
Walmart luxury... its a different kinda luxury...
I never purchase garments handled by brown people.
Distaste for synthetic fibers is a relic of the 70s, when they were poorly employed. The finest dress shirts today incorporate some portion of synthetic fibers to increase the fabric quality or give a little bit of stretch. They also hold their shape better over time.
If you don't like synthetic fibers, skip all the major designers.
Don't be fooled by "made in italy" either...some lux brands will have everything made in china and then ship the products back to italy where the zipper will be sown in and then slap on the tag "made in italy"
it's the trade secret.
Anyone who is not blind, can easily see the poor quality of Made in China clothing. A label can not cover up for that.
Not so much a luxury item, but I purchased bed linens from Pottery Barn. I like them very much but I was sad when I read the "Made in China" label.
I have been very conscious about looking at the labels and when I see 'Made in China', I often put it back on the rack. I know that 95% of clothes are made in China, and if consumers keep buying this shit, the companies will continue to enjoy earning massive profits. It's up to the individual and I would rather pay more for something made in the USA.
I still wear an Eddie Bauer lightweight jacket that I bought in 1993. It has Made in the USA tag in it. Flash forward to 2013, 0% of Eddie Bauer clothes are made in the USA. That's fucked up.
At this point I'll buy clothes that say Nazi Germany before I'll knowingly buy Chinese. Except anything leather.
ALL luxury products are made in China and the "finished" in the country where they're supposed to be from, e.g. Hermes or Louis Vuitton products in France.
All Hermès leather goods, and most other products, are made in France--often by hand.
However, I wouldn't be surprised if the silk scarves were from China, at least the textiles.
If people are too stupid to look where items are made today, then I can't feel sorry for them when they get taken by any brand name.