I know, that's the freaky thing about it. It looks something from a movie, but it actually happened!
I'm jumpy on my best day - I would have had a coronary if I'd been there.
Saying crash is not really correct. It seems the explosion and damage is from the sonic boom and/or from the meteor exploding overhead.
They are now reporting over 900 injured.
No, I was just sending Kal-El's little sister to Earth from Krypton.
I just watched some video of it crashing, the people were so CALM.
I think this exploded near the spot the Romanovs were murdered in 1918. Anastasia is still pissed off!
I am certainly no tin hat theorist, but seeing this and reading about it this morning AND the fact they're telling us to be so calm and cool about the "harmless" asteroid passing over us this afternoon makes me wonder.
I wonder if the Earth was set to be bombarded by a crap load of asteroids or meteors if the governments of the world would actually tell us, or keep it suppressed all in the name of public calm.
[quote] the people were so CALM.
Probably because they were too drunk to even realize what happened.
R9 Governments warns people when hurricanes, typhoons and tornadoes are on their way. Hell, we even were able to warn people ahead of a volcanic eruption. Those are all events that we have maybe a weeks notice, usually less. An asteroid could predicted to arrive months, sometimes years ahead of time.
Is this one at all related to the other one due to pass by us today?
Like a smaller part of it that broke off early?
If you live in Russian, a meteor could be your savior.
Agree R11. Then again, an asteroid would have worldwide impact and cause mass panic and hysteria, even if it weren't predicted to be an extinction level impact. So I suppose there's some reasoning there why governments might keep us in the dark about it.
Then again, with all the amateur astronomers and the 'net, I doubt they'd be able to.
Most scientists are saying it is unrelated
I have a bad feeling about the big one coming towards us today. I think the Russian meteor shower was like the precursor. They haven't told us everything.
I can't understand how something as big as the one we're expecting around midnight tonight won't affect us.
Suppose it triggers the shakes or earthquakes or vibrations? Suppose the pull of our gravity vs. the velocity of the strength of the asteriod's orbit pull us apart? Or knocks out our satellites?
Or the asteroid breaks apart and hits in huge chunks in several different places like that one that hi in that movie when Morgan Freeman was President?
Or it knocks the earth out of its orbit? I mean, if we change even a little bit, the tilt and the orbit path, it will affect our climate our stability, everything.
Remember. This asteroid is so close it is closer than the satellites we have up there.
R16 wasn't that a movie?
Not this time, r9.
Was it linked to the asteroid?
Australian website the Conversation has been asking experts whether the meteor strike is linked to asteroid 2012 DA14, which is expected to pass closely by the earth tonight.
Phil Bland, an asteroid expert at Curtin University, said:
Is it connected to the flyby? A lot of folks would say “no”. Personally, I’ve always kind of liked the idea that there are streams of asteroid debris – so you can have smaller stuff that precede and trail a bigger object. It seems like an awful big coincidence if it’s not connected.
2:24 EST is the time DA14 is supposed to be nearest the earth.
The only thing that makes me think they are not related is wouldn't stuff that broke off DA14 be trailing behind it, not speeding ahead of it?
Maybe I am "Mary!" but think about it.An object that large, moving at a high rate of speed and coming "this cose" to us?
Have you ever been in the center lane to make a left turn, and cars were whizzing by you going either way? They sometimes rattle your car. Have you ever felt the "brush" of a big semi truck on the highway as it passes?
Maybe this is going to damage us and since there isn't anything they can do about it, they have said nothing.
Yeah, is that 2:24 in the afternoon or morning?
It's an amazing coincidence if this crash and the fly by later today are unrelated.
The question is, who is next????
I think it's a splinter from the larger asteroid. If it hit something while flying through space, wouldn't the smaller piece that comes off move faster?
JFC, learn some basic physics before spouting off all that crap, R16. DA14 doesn't have even close to the mass needed to affect the earth's orbit. It's like your stability being affected by a mosquito flying past your head.
Did it actually hit the ground or dissentigrate before impact? I wonder if there is a crater somewhere?
Who's the guy who dropped a feather off a tower along with a heavier object, to prove that things fall at the same rate? Was it Galileo or Copernicus?
In the movies -- Meteor (1979) and Armageddon (1997) -- there are always splinters that precede the big one.
What would buck Rogers do?
R31 a feather and a rock don't fall at the same rate. Now a pound of feathers and a pound of rock would fall at the same rate...
When's the last time a asteroid this size scrapped by, not crashed, near Earth?
R28, if the larger asteroid had been hit by something while flying through space, the piece(s) that were dislodged would be in a different orbit.
A supposed expert said the meteor and astroid have nothing to do with each other...which sounds like bullshit to me.
R31 Galileo dropped two spheres of different weight off a tower to show that they fell at the same rate. He theorized feather would fall at the same rate as cannon ball as long as they were in a vacuum. This was confirmed some 500 years later by the Apollo astronauts who dropped a hammer and a bald eagle feather on the moon. They both fell at the same rate.
Someone said there was about a 20 foot crater but I haven't seen it.
R34 you need to go back to grade school. Find your science teacher and punch them in the face and tell them, "that's for not teaching me shit!"
"[R34] you need to go back to grade school. Find your science teacher and punch them in the face and tell them, "that's for not teaching me shit!"
Once the air resistance is minimized, objects fall at essentially the same rate; in a perfect vacuum, they fall at IDENTICAL rates. Yes I get that. However if you take a feather throw it off a building and take a rock and toss it at the same time, the feather will take much longer to hit the ground because of air resistance. So continue to eat mouse turds for breakfast.
So the damage was primarily due the shockwave from the object's explosion, not from falling space debris?
So far no Russkie has come out and said "I got bonked on the head by a space rock!"
[quote]Once the air resistance is minimized, objects fall at essentially the same rate
Once the air resistance is minimized, objects[bold] of equal mass [/bold]fall at essentially the same rate
I am one scary bitch. I would have literally shat myself.
about three hours from now, r26. afternoon
The experts and meteorists on this thread are hilarious.
Any university the world over will welcome you with open arms into their physics department!
Take Morgan Freeman along with you !!
r46 = life of the party
[quote]I have a bad feeling about the big one coming towards us today.
Mary, are you CONCERNED?!!?
Meteorite or alien invasion?
I don't need to take some "basic physics classes" or read up on shit. There is such a thing as shock waves, and even a fucking fly buzzing past your ear sets off a tiny vibration. Sound waves are vibrations.
That damned asteroid is big enough to be noticed and affect us some how. If it weren't, if it were your proverbial mosquito, then why would they even bother to mention it.
Shit passes us by, even hits earth all the time. We don't get a lot of chatter about it. This time we are. Because it will be felt. It will be noticeable.
The buses have already taken all the lottery winners to the cave.
BEWARE OF THE BLOB!
[quote]I don't need to take some "basic physics classes" or read up on shit.
TRANSLATION: I am proud to let everyone know, I have no clue what I am talking about. Sarah Palin is my role model.
By the way: sound waves are not vibrations. Sound waves are an fluctuations in air pressure caused by, among other things, vibrations.
Will it pass over the US?
Will it pass over South America?
Will it pass over Europe?
Will it pass over Africa?
Will it pass over China?
Perhaps you'd like to do us all a favor and lock yourself away deep in a bunker, as you're so sure all those scientists know nothing and that the end is night, R50.
BTW, the asteroid in question is so small it's not even going to be visible from earth without the aid of powerful binoculars.
The Mayans were off by a couple months!!
This would be a great day to get meteored.
I for one am kind of bored with all this, really.
I just think - you don't have to pay taxes for 2012!
I know![R56] I could use a little excitement
Shit, maybe the mormon could have saved us all had he been elected POTUS.
The white horse thing.
Since celebrity deaths come in threes there has to be a third meteor, right?
The number three seems to be a magical number in a lot of incidents.
It has just been reported that the meteor contained horse meat.
W&W for R60!
R52, Sarah Pailin is ignorant. I am not ignorant. what I meant was I didn't need a physics class to know that when something speeds past you at very close quarters, it sends shock waves, or vibrations or whatever.
And what you just described, "sound waves are fluctuations in air pressure caused by vibrations"I mean, WTF. I said that. It's a fucking vibration. so STFU and go back to your soaps.
I'm going to watch Deep Impact tonight. I intend to be ready for Wolf-Beiderman. BTW: That movie started out pretty cool as I recall, and then it got cheese about 2/3 of the way thru.
We will know tomorrow, or possibly the day after, won't we.Some of us will be in the caves, some of us will not.
23 minutes till the bigger one passes earth at the closest point!!
Injury toll now 1200. Russia denies it shot at the meteor (although that would be a better explanation for the delayed bang). Crater found.
Elijah, DA14 has now passed by safely and it's on its way back into outer space, so you can calm the fuck down.
Elder gay alert!!!!
Elder gays do more damage to society than meteors.
Elijah an object passing through the vacuum of space does not produce a shock wave or any sound for that matter. That is grade school science. I don't know what is more astounding: your ignorance or the fact that you seem proud to display it so openly.
r74, what gave the object a push though? Some forces have to be in play in order to move things along.
Ruh-roh. Reports of another meteor exploding over Cuba.
R74 The same thing that gave the earth and moon and all the planets a push. Gravity. Its orbiting the sun.
Where is the video?
R79 If it happened in Cuba, the best we can hope for is someone drew a picture of it on the side of a paper bag.
Has anyone blamed Klendathu yet? If not I humbly submit Klendathu as the culprit.
Stop with the wanton hostility. I took Lit classes and I was in the Drama Club and Debate, and I too geology& biology,and I never took a physics class in my like. I even went to grad school. For film studies. I know as much science as Robert Duvall did in that movie, and probably as much as Tom Hanks, Kevin Bacon & Gary Sinise. I never like Bill Paxton.
It was Mexicans lighting off fireworks that Castro has finally died.
This is Obamas doing. He staged this so that are rights to windows would be taken away. LIBERALS!
There is one thing you all must learn and remember: You can ONLY ACCOUNT for asteroids approaching Earth in directions that ARE NOT coming from the direction of the sun.
If the asteroid comes to us from the direction of the sun, our telescopes will not see it and there is no radar up there. So, we can get hit and not have time to plan. This asteroid came from that direction.
In reading these posts, now I understand that the United States really is 34th in science. You guys haven't a clue about physics and cosmology, do you?
I beg to differ with you, R86, I went to Cosmetology school and graduated with honors in curling, dye and tinting and I'll tell you right now we did not cover no meteorites at all.
Let's be clear about some things:
This Russian meteor is not at all related to the asteroid that passed by close to earth today. They were coming from entirely different directions at entirely different speeds.
We've known about the asteroid fly-by for a long time. There was no hint or clue that anyone had about the Russian meteor.
Also, the delay between the meteor and the bang was because it was so far up and so far away. The explosion supposedly happened around 17 miles up, and quite a distance away from where many of the recordings were taken. Sound isn't all that fast.
This was an air-burst, which produced shockwaves that caused most of the damage. There are reports that fragments fell over a wide area, one of the larger remnants punching a hole in the ice of a lake.
Most of the people injured were injured by glass fragments from shattered windows.
Source. Zeus shot a load toward earth. I have seen many white streaking loads before.
what is amazing is the delay between seeing it and the sound. Make sure your speakers are not up high when you watch it.
Isn't there a US governmental agency tracking all the stuff coming towards earth? Some reports said they keep track of anything larger than a baseball, well? What happened?
According to the information NASA has put up on their website, the meteor that exploded over Russia was entirely unrelated to the DA14 asteroid to which they'd been giving so much publicity. That the much more dramatic Russian meteor explosion happened so unexpectedly, and right around the same time NASA was so heavily hyping their detection and tracking of DA14, has to have resulted in quite a few red NASA faces.
1) The link at r70 had NOTHING to do with meteorites.
2) r88 has stated all we need to know about the situation.
[quote]Isn't there a US governmental agency tracking all the stuff coming towards earth? Some reports said they keep track of anything larger than a baseball, well? What happened?
We track a lot of things. We cannot track everything.
Here's hoping this incident motivates politicians to improve funding in this area.
Wow, those videos in R95 and R96 are pretty amazing... the force with which the windows are blown out, and the way it knocks people down, off their feet! Damn!
I LOVE R10!!
[quote]Once the air resistance is minimized, objects of equal mass fall at essentially the same rate
Sorry, R43, but you're wrong. Although it's counter-intuitive, all objects fall at the same rate, regardless of mass. Demonstrated famously by Galileo at the Leaning Tower of Pisa, and duplicated beautifully on the moon (see link).
If the door in this video is in fact what it appears to be - a steel door of the type used to secure an industrial loading area - then there's no denying that it was one real bad-ass shock wave that resulted from the meteor's explosion.
I don't know what I would do if a meteorite struck metropollitan Columbus. I'd probably be scared!
What I find most interesting about this story is that Russians have dashboard cameras in their cars because of dangerous drivers and roads lol.
Anybody else experience sonic booms? I lived in Central Florida and got to experience a few when space shuttles returned to Cape Canaveral from space. They are very loud and violent. These vids are interesting because unlike one object traveling faster than sound, it sounds like there were multiple since the meteor broke up into pieces. It seems like there were a lot of smaller booms after the initial huge one. Or maybe it was just things exploding and crashing because of the first boom.
Im also glad this didnt happen in the US, people would be blaming the government and Obama for something that came from the great beyond.
The Bay Area got scared when a shooting star streaked across last night's sky...
[quote]It seems like there were a lot of smaller booms after the initial huge one. Or maybe it was just things exploding and crashing because of the first boom.
There were definitely multiple booms, but there were also boom-echoes bouncing around.
this is an amazing video of a woman running away from it
Ha, R108 - you got me with that one, dammit! GRRR!
Still, it hasn't changed it that the Russian Meteor has become my favorite news story in quite some time.
But anyway, moving on to what I originally returned to post about: I have to say that I'm shocked no one has yet made mention of the fact that the cubefrau in the video I posted at R96 evidently had no trouble at all staying on her feet during the blast while at least two of her younger male co-workers wound up rolling across the floor like tumbleweeds at her feet. Is this simply an issue of ballast? Or does this indicate that cubefraus possess a set of carefully concealed, yet highly developed, instincts that make them the ones most likely to escape unscathed in these kinds of emergency situations? Or are Russian cubefraus (cube-babushkas?) just plain different from their North American counterparts? Hmm... I wonder.
[bold]Why Didn’t We Know the Russian Meteor Was Coming?[/bold]
[italic]We’re getting better at spotting potentially dangerous objects, but this one was too small.[/italic]
Are we sure it wasn't a drone attack or a North Korean missile?
"We really don't give a fuck" says astronomers about meteors the size of the one exploded over Russia. They only care about ones that would wipe out mankind. But if Texas or New York are leveled, well, that's just too bad!
[quote]about 4,700 asteroids at least 330 feet (100 m) wide come uncomfortably close to our planet at some point in their orbits. To date, astronomers have detected less than 30 percent of these objects, which could destroy an area the size of a state if they slammed into Earth.