Nope. They walk past me every day in college, as if I was invisible and I have no problem with that because I know eventually I'll find someone.
No. There are cute gay guys. I don't like straight guys' manners; there are few exceptions but those tend to be from guys I don't find attractive. What I find difficult is the lack of fit gay men outside of big cities. And the lack of gay bodybuilders anywhere. I prefer NATURAL bodybuilder physiques like Jeff Rodriquez, Doug Miller or Helmut Strebl. There are virtually no gay men who look like this. Most gay men prefer a swimmer's build/ underwear model look.
I've had cute, sweet straight friends who end up with girls who don't appreciate what they've got. That makes me sad because they have the right look to really clean up in gay bars.
But that's their orientation. They would never be happy with a guy so I just hope they find the right girl.
I will say that I wish gays had a bigger base to choose from but, even with all the straight guys in the world, straight women have a hard time finding a decent guy.
But you can have at least a few of them. Often quite a few
Here in DL, we believe everyone is gay. Even the staight ones.
No, they are just nice to look at. I see super hot dudes daily at my job. After getting to know a few of them, the attraction is just not there because they arent gay.
The vast majority of people, for the larger part of their lives (late 30's onward), male, female, gay and straight, can't "have" whoever they want. Once you get to be a certain age you become invisible.
You really only have about two decades of being in demand.....unless you're a rock star.
Never angry. With my natural charm and charisma, straight guys are willing to do anything to please me. My boyish looks, even at 54, and carrying my excess weight so well that you can't notice, brings'em to my love pad nightly..........
Sounds like gay men don't mind cute guys being straight, or so they say. But straight women sure as hell kvetch about gay guys being cute but unattainable. They whine about this nonstop.
Why, when there are so many cute gay guys?
No, R7. Here on DL the creepy obsession is straight men who have gay sex. But, these men are not straight, they are gay or bisexual.
[quote]straight women sure as hell kvetch about gay guys being cute but unattainable. They whine about this nonstop.
To you, or just in general?
Nope. If someone says they're straight, I take their word for it and keep it movin'. No sense in getting angry or disappointed.
Then you're missing out R15. If you are pretty sure they are lying about being straight, you can be the one who introduced them to the life.
I have a BFF who's a cute straight guy. I had a crush on him when I first met him, but the fact that he's straight took him out of my realm of interest before long.
I fell in love with a straight guy once, and once was enough. Never again. There are so many good-looking gay guys, I've never needed anything else.
I live in flyover country in a midsized city. I have to live because of family ogligations...long story.
Anyway, I wouldn't have much to look at if it weren't for hot straight guys. Because of the stresses of being gay in the South, most gay men end up looking like 50 miles of bad road by the time they're 35. They've been drunk for 14 years, smoking since high school, and never do much exercise so they've got the perpetual "bubba gut." I'm a small guy and they would crush me during sex.
I don't chase straight guys, but as a rule, they tend to be better looking here. And look is what I do.
It's what we all do, R18.
[quote]I don't chase straight guys, but as a rule, they tend to be better looking here.
I would have thought they were largely out of shape fatties.
If I had a dollar for every straight man I've hit on I would be on a Forbes list by now.
It doesn't make be angry, I just wish male bisexuality was more common.
No, these are the straight guys on seancody, corbinfisher, fratmen...you know, the straight guys who get double penetrated, gang baned, bukake, anal...
r13 I don't think the creepy obsession is confined to DL; it is a lucrative venture for those who produce porn specifically geared toward the gay4pay fantasy. For some, the ultimate turn on is fantasizing about what you can't have.
R22, never hit on gay guys?
Yes, R7, but only the hawt ones. Cause all hawt men are at least a little gay.
It's creepy. It is lucrative because a lot of gay men hate themselves. A lot.
R25, Yes, when I can, but I live in a small town in upstate New York so meeting gay men in their 20s (my age group) is rare. It seems like hot straight guys abound whereas there are no younger gay men. I like to take a chance hoping that some cute guy will be gay but he never is.
We're seeing more middle aged partnered gay guys move up here from the city though, which is cool. What I really need to do is move, I can't afford NYC or Boston, so I'm considering Philadelphia.
No gay bars in upstate NY? No gay organizations to join? I live in a small town myself and I find all kinds if things.
[quote] I like to take a chance hoping that some cute guy will be gay but he never is.
Oh, I see. Read between the lines. I wish you the best of luck. Hope your life isn't lonely.
You have to be creative, that's all.
If you are hot enough, you can have any man.
Angry? Of course not. A little sad sometimes, selfishly think its a shame. Of course.
And yeah, like someone else said I made the mistake of falling in love with a straight guy once. Never again, now if a guy says he is straight I completely friend zone him in my mind. Sure he might be closeted, but I don't want to go down that road, only going to pursue guys that are okay with identifying as gay/bi. Since then I have been much happier.
This hot guy just got out of a seven year relationship with a woman hit on me hard and when I got him to bed he begged me to fuck him.
One time I had a party and a girl I know brought her sexy boyfriend and he got real drunk and hit on me when I put him in a bedroom to chill out.
And it sure is fun when it does.
I've had hot guys who were bi and decided to forget the bi and just go straight. But I never get angry about the guys that I can't have, that's stupid. I just enjoy the ones that I can have and it's a rather nice and ample selection, so I'm not sweatin' a thing.
Nope. The cute gay guys are much cuter AND they're gay!
OP is trying to twist things in a homophobic way. When a closeted gay guy flirts with you and puts his hands all over you and confides his secrets you...and then humiliates you by saying he's straight and he never liked you, it's not a rejection, it's a gay bashing. He does it with vehemence and hysteria usually, trying to get you to question your intelligence, your judgement, your sanity, and saying you're predatory or otherwise subhuman and beneath his dignity to do anything but tease. And if you get angry at this turn about, he will run to authority figures as fast as his Crocs will carry him to make accusations against you. This is gay bashing, and this is what makes gays angry. This is not about straight guys who are unavailable, it's about closeted gay guys who are your best and most intimate friend until suddenly they turn on you in a violent and harrassing way.
I screwed some hot straight guys on Sean Cody. Now I'm with chicks again.
Thanks for your reply . You just identified for me a long horror of events in my life. I have had endless run ins with closeted gay men who flirt endlessly with me.
Years ago I caught onto them, but every once in a while, one gets under my radar. And invariably the MINUTE I would act upon their flirting they'd turn their self hate outward on me.
You're right. It's gay bashing, end of discussion.
Straight men are way hotter!
Mostly, "straight" guys are lying about their straightness, they are mostly bi, so from Day One, my attraction to such guys is tempered by the knowledge that they are liars.
Secondly, I don't subscribe to the popular axiom, "we want what we can't have." I want sex, and yes I'd like it with someone hot, but if nobody is hot, I'll make compromises.
Third, in New York, there are SO many guys who mess around that you almost never get to the getting to know you part before the sex part.
I've experienced exactly what R39 described.
Gosh, this actually makes me happy to live in L.A. Out here, there is seriously at least a 50/50 chance that any hot guy you see on the street or at the gym is gay.
There is an abundance of attractive young gay/bi guys to the point where I actually kinda feel sorry for straight girls (LA women try very, very hard).
Oh you don't even have to act on it R41, for them to turn on you. Very often they like you one on one but then they meet people who know you're gay, which they didn't realize; or who turn out to be antigay when you aren't around, and they suddenly they lose whatever individuality they had and become attack dogs for some weird temporary pack of bigots. It's a weird thing about straight men is that some of them cannot function outside a little pack of five or six sneering jackanapes and they will act completely different under the influence of the group than they would alone.
r45, is delusional. Most women in L.A. are bi
In fact, I don't even think some of them are even aware that they aren't thinking for themselves when they do that, that they have put some adolescent pack membership thing between you and them, or that they are seeing you solely through the eyes of others at that time.
WTF. R42/47 is the homophobic bisexual skank from L Chat that always troll-baits these anti-gay threads.
And sorry dear, most young 20something women in LA are not bi. They are very straight and into men, and unfortunately having a hard time finding a man (or at least that is what my very attractive female co-workers all whine about). Real world LA is not like the L Word or a MFF porno, sorry.
All the time.
That sounds creepy, OP.
[quote] Most women in L.A. are bi
I love how so many DL'ers can make sweeping generalizations about the world around them. Like almost every female in LA is bi. Or that straight men all want to be blown by a gay man.
Sexuality is, for those of us who have studied it in a university classroom, far more complex than us vs them, gay vs straight. Most people have an element of bisexuality in their sexual attractions. Some are at either ends of the spectrum - totally gay, or totally straight. And others fall somewhere in the middle.
r49, HATES WOMEN . Go take your HIV meds faggot
r49, you are so stupid. You claim men in L.A. are predominately gay or bi which is TOTAL BS, when women are way more bi than men. iT'S socially acceptable faggot!!
Psychotic R53/54 is why this DL should be purged of all L-Chat refugees. Forget fraus or lesbians or straight men; "bisexual" women are probably the most gay-hating, homophobic group out there. Gross.
Tell me more about how half of all hot guys in LA want to suck my cock.
Unrealistic preoccupation with straight guys says more about you than anything else.
Same thing with the whole "bad boy" fixation.
OK, obviously half is an exaggeration, but there is no lack of good-looking gay men in L.A. I feel sorry for you queens who live in these cave-den towns where the idea of an abundance of good-looking gay men is so absolutely foreign and unbelievable.
I see a much higher proportion of 30+ L.A. gay men who are well-kempt and in shape vs. the supposed "hot straight guys" who are overweight or in bad shape w/ beer guts.
I live here, r58, and I often say that there are huge numbers gay men in LA that are far more attractive than the famous examples.
I just wish it was half of all men.
Stupid question. Stop living life revolved around your sexual desires. Learn how to befriend dudes based on character instead of shallow attributes.
GHB fixes everything
I was a closeted bi guy who had a "straight" friend. We got very close, hung out a lot, etc. I didn't have a gf anymore and told him I was bi, and would hint at messing around. He was a "straight" guy who really only hung out with gay men, especially some older. When I asked him why, he would say, "because they are the ones that are nice to me." Anyways, you know where this is going. After a few drinks and him always flirting, and always talking about gay stuff, when I pushed for something to happen, he turned me down and even threatened to hit me. Now, I know ill get flamed for being somewhat "closeted" myself, but I took a chance with a similar type, and it just didn't work. Both being models and actors, I thought that mutual respect would have helped. But my conclusion was that he felt so low that he just used the gay guys around him and their lust for him to feed his ego. Blah I'm tired.
Being straight is just the opening salvo.
The majority of people are bisexual, at least to some extent. The backlash to the "gay" movement, particularly the efforts to "out" everybody, and the AIDS epidemic has caused it to go completely out of style for ordinary men, who are not flaming "gays" to engage in sexual activity with other men. Oh, life was good in the 1970s. I was young and attractive, and I would go to work at an oil refinery on the graveyard shift, and have a couple of mutual cocksucking sessions in hiding places during the shift, and leave work in the morning with plans for a buddy to come spend time in bed with me as soon as he went home and got his wife off to work. And nobody ever told.
None of the above has affected my ability to bag straight men. Shoot em, stuff em and mount them on my wall.
No, OP, I just pity them that they'll never enjoy TRUE sex, REAL sex... that is, sex with another man. I feel sorry for them.
What a waste.
[quote]But straight women sure as hell kvetch about gay guys being cute but unattainable.
They're just trying to flatter you in that self pitying way that women do. Geez, try not to let it get to your head.
[quote]The majority of people are bisexual, at least to some extent.
I believe this too. I was assisting this extremely hot guy at my job yesterday, he was a true ten. Very handsome face and great body, really strong pecs you could see through his shirt. This guy, who Im pretty sure was straight, was trying his very best to get me to bend regulations for him. It's very hard to keep a clear head when you just want to lick the person sitting in front if you.
This is not news, but most people know that they often get better treatment because of good looks, regardless of the sex of the person they are trying to convince. To me that makes you just a *tiny* bit bisexual. I admit I felt a little anger at not being able to rip this guy's clothes off right then, but it made me feel better by denying his ass. How dare he make me so horny in the middle of monotonous workday!
No Mr. Travolta, R64, that wasn't you, that was a character you played in a movie called Urban Cowboy.
R65 is my hero.
All my life, I've gone after straight guys. And a large majority of them had sex with me - even if only once - sometimes for extended periods. Many of them return to their straight lives (get married, have kids, etc.) others realize that they're gay and come out. I imagine some proceed as bi, while others deny everything while secretly harboring their attraction to men.
r71, you sound like you have the morals of a sewer rat, dude. sad...
[quote]The majority of people are bisexual, at least to some extent.
Not true. And most heterosexual guys would vehemently disagree.
R72 - what has morals got to do with it? I find straight guys attractive. More of them than you would think will enter into a sexual relationship. Some of them turn out to be meaningful, long term relationships, some just remain solid friendships - and, as with all relationships, some don't last.
So what was YOUR point?
I'm loving r71/74!
[quote]most heterosexual guys would vehemently disagree.
There's no such thing as heterosexual guys. Especially cute ones.
Not at all. I prefer cute gay guys like myself. I'm proud to be gay and enjoy socializing with other gay men.
I started a very temporary job 2 weeks ago with an amazing 26-year old lawyer, who went to undergrad on an athletic scholarship. He moved across the country with his wife (they married a couple of years ago) who's doing her residency in my home state. He's wise beyond his years (he thanked me when I told him that), wickedly smart, slyly funny, earnest, and yes, so very youthfully handsome with his tousled hair (we've spoken in jest about writing a screenplay about our current job and he has said that we would need to cast a very handsome actor to play his part; I told him that went without saying, and I have vetoed certain of his candidates by telling him they were insufficiently handsome). Me? Well, I just turned 56, retired young from my old job, a still handsome former model, 6'1", 175, in great shape (broad shoulders, narrow waist, muscular thighs), full head of brown hair, smooth skin (no smoking, drinking or muchsun exposure), and could pass for a youthful looking mid-40s. My young friend has mentioned how much chemistry we have and today told another guy who sits nearby - who reacted in mock horror to our closeness - that we were in a bromance. He also seems to remember - and repeat - everything I say (including one reference to avoiding a fight with a crazy attorney who challenged me outside of court because "my face was my bread and butter"), and to be able to document when the comment was made. And when I said I'm too hard on myself (I'm a bit of a perfectionist), he told me today that that was an understatement. I'm not a particularly sexual person. I'd be satisfied just to hold him, while we gazed into each other's eyes. It's been a long, long time since I have such feelings for anyone. I've always been self-contained, and content with my circumstances, but this surprising development has made me realize how much I'm missing. So is there any future with my young prince?
[quote]Do you feel angry knowing you can't have them?
Such a stupid question. Everyone wants someone or a lot of people they can't have.
A lot of straight women lust after guys that are gay and...coming to think of it, they often seem angry when it happens, so you may have a point.
R78, apart from the other obstacles, I think your seeming lack of interest in sex would doom any future with ANYONE. But, as someone near your age, I do find it intriguing that a younger guy would characterize his friendship with a much older guy as a bromance. Maybe not. Perhaps it's the way younger guys now talk.
R 78: Please, please, don't get sexually involved with your co-worker. Enjoy the fact that the two of you enjoy each other's company, but, keep it respectful & professional. I'd hate to see him (or you), get in over his head w/ the closeness that you two share and later get influenced in some negative manner by his wife, one of your colleagues (sp?), etc, and end up pulling away from you and/or even complaining about your actions to your boss. Be your pleasant self, but, please find intimate and loving comfort with a guy of your own (and not with a co-worker who's *married* and most likely straight.) You seem like an adorable guy. I've been there. This will not end well if either of you make the wrong step, i.e. something sexual and/or intimate. Again, I've been there. I ended up with egg on my face (it was just flirting, but, still.) Things got very uncomfortable at work for a year. It was awful. He later tried to act as if I was the only one doing the flirting. However, I knew I was courting a bad ending the entire time. Lesson learned. Please know that I'm not judging you. Be well and be very careful.
Been there and burned the t-shirt.
My best guy friend is straight, married and a total hunk. My female and gay friends all lust after him, and yeah, we both get a bit of a kick of fucking with people's heads..he and I were cuddled up on the couch at a party not long ago, and the tongues were wagging. My boyfriend and his wife are great pals too and they know nothing is going on. My bud will go with me to gay bars and none of the gays I know from there will believe that he and I don't mess around and that he is 100% straight. He is such a horny fucker that I know we would have done something by now if he was even the least bit gay. Sure, there has been ass grabbing and nipple pinching, and I got him to show me his cock once for my birthday, but we have never crossed the line into anything too heated.
I have good gay friends too, but I think every gay guy needs a straight guy friend...I know it's hard to find cool, open- minded ones though!
[quote]I got him to show me his cock once for my birthday
LOL. What a good sport and great friend.
r82, I had a straight coworker that was really cute and we became great friends. He had an amazing ass and he showed me a pic of himself in a shower with his naked ass sticking out from behind the shower curtain and the nude silhouette of his body, just for laughs in our office.
Most men, people, gay and straight, like to know other people think they are attractive. Ego boosting doesnt always end in something physical, especially when you have a brotherly relationship with another man. In fact, I would actually feel uncomfortable if he showed me his cock lol
[R82] here. I'll admit I had wanted to see his cock for a long time but afterwards I think we both felt a little weird about it and never talked about it again!
The only time things almost got out of hand was the one time I ever did drag for a Halloween party. He was drunk and couldn't keep his hands off of me. Grabbing my ass and my fake tits. I felt him up a little bit. Actually a lot of my straight friends were doing the same thing that night...gave me insight into how straight men view women, or anything "woman-like"! Kind of creeped me out so much I changed out of drag before the end of the party...I wasnt a very pretty or convincing woman, either!
R82, what did it look like? Cut/uncut? Big, tiny or medium? shaved or natural? How long did he let you look?
Thanks, R81, for your heartfelt advice and your kind words. As I indicated in my post, our work engagement is quite abbreviated, and may end in just a couple of weeks. Since we'll then go our separate ways, unlikely to find ourselves working together again, I'm not as concerned as I would otherwise be about getting involved with a co-worker. But because he's married I will be respectfulour relationship to the next level. I don't expect that he will, but I hope we can from a distance create some non-work friendship. We're both baseball fans (I have season tickets to my beloved MLB team) and early on I suggested we take in a game this season. Since I know now he has catalogued everything I've said, I won't renew the invitation, but let him decide if he wants to continue our friendship. If not, I'll just have to wait until he follows up on his unsolicited promise of making me his vice-president (I've halfheartedly teased him that he should pursue a political career - in the best possible way, he'd be a natural)!
R 87: Please post again to let us know how things turn out. I'm still concerned for you and your possible actions (even though your work assignment is likely to be short, but, even that could change.) Again, things can get out of hand quickly (especially if he mentions the wrong thing to his wife and/or a trusted co-worker. I'll trust your judgement. I responded earlier because there are elements of my story in yours. I send you love & best wishes.
[R86], it was pretty thick and long. I wouldn't say he had a semi, but it was a little fluffed. My boyfriend and I had lunch with him and his wife today, and I was a little embarrassed because my posting in this thread had made me remember that incident. I really don't think about it that much. My BF and my friend's wife don't know about the penis sharing event. :-)
R82 One of my best friends is a cute straight guy. I don't know if I could handle seeing his cock. I'd never be able to forget it if I did. Better off not being able to answer the questions R86 posed.
I'm going to his wedding later this year. He brought his fiance to meet me -- we live in different cities now -- and I really like her a lot. I would be outside my comfort zone if we could have a conversation about his penis.
If for some reason he decides he likes dick, I hope he gives you first right of refusal.
Although there's no denying the obvious chemistry despite the gulf in our ages - yesterday my young colleague told me to shut up moments before we were both beaming at each other - a couple days of reflection have left me with a very different perspective. I can now better appreciate that ours is a chemistry of friends and my new pal is straight and in love with his wife exclusively. And I respect that.
[quote]He was drunk and couldn't keep his hands off of me. Grabbing my ass and my fake tits. I felt him up a little bit. Actually a lot of my straight friends were doing the same thing that night...gave me insight into how straight men view women, or anything "woman-like"!
Except straight guys really don't do this to women. They behave a lot more respectfully, even when piss drunk. They might WANT to grab, but they don't, generally, probably fearing repercussions. For some reason they have no such qualms about mauling a guy in drag though---all in good fun, of course.
Oh my God, this thread is so sad.
Damn the webmaster is a dumb fuck. Who the hell shuts down a gay gossip board during the oscars? What a fucking retard.
Some real poignant reading here.
My temporary work assignment has ended. The last week was particularly emotional for me not knowing where things were headed, but I was able to keep it together pretty well as I made my exit (my colleague's departure was extended, as it turns out, another 24 hours). We had made plans to go to opening day 3 weeks hence, and shortly before I was to leave he turned to me & asked if we could perhaps take in a pro basketball game - prefacing his question by saying he knew I wasn't as big a basketfall fan - before our baseball plans could be realized. The subtext of our work relationship had been that our experiences would make a great screenplay (every day, we'd both take turns saying that something that had just happened would have to be included, or a particular character would have to be added). As we were always the two leads in our imaginary film, I awaited his reaction when I at one point called the project a romantic comedy. There was silence at the time, but in a couple of days he, too, was making reference to a romantic comedy. As I got up to finally leave, I bade my farewell to some surrounding colleagues who were also remaining, before turning around to face my young friend who was now standing, awaiting me & appearing uncharacterisically somber. I took his hand, gently pounded once on his chest, and quietly said, "to be continued." As a nearby woman who had witnessed our friendship blossom said, "aah," he said, "yes."
r77, I am assuming you are a feminine man correct?