Nutshell, she put bleach in the wash with the sheets (which wasn't necessary to begin with) but it looks like she just sprinkled it over the load, because three sets of sheets now look tie dyed.
She wasn't even asked to do laundry.
Do we ask for compensation for the sheets she ruined? They're still serviceable but they're ruined too. She's a nice lady, but she fucked up and she's not paid to fuck up.
Bring it up to her to make sure she doesn't do it again and then let it go. They're sheets, she didn't damage your internal organs.
Were they special sheets? Were detailed instructions given to her before said sheets were put in washer? Is washing one of her duties? Is her husband/lover hot?
These are questions we need to know before we can make a determination of who is responsible.
Have a sit down with her. Give her instructions on how you expect her to launder your things. Tell her when & how to use bleach. Obviously sprinkling it is the wrong way to dispense it.
Show her the sheets, and tell her that while you will still use them, they have been permanently damaged by the bleach. Let her know this cannot happen again. But do not under any circumstances demand reimbursement. That makes you seem like a shit.
Speaking of shit, OP, why did she think she needed to use bleach on the sheets, hmmm?
If it were me, I'd either let it go, or -if it was that big of a deal-let her go and use a different housekeeper in the future.
I have no idea where the bleach idea came from. They were just used damn sheets! Particularly used damn sheets one of us launders. ;) She's not even supposed to do laundry. No good deed goes unpunished, I suppose. She knows she did it - she remade the bed with one set of them. They look like they've got vitiligo.
1) Cut a head-sized hole in the center of each sheet
2) Print "I can't launder worth SHIT!" on each sheet
3) Force her to wear them as poncho uniforms whenever she cleans
4) Follow her as she cleans and let her know she's a man-stealing whore
She is too stupid to understand how to handle your fine things.
Have one of your field slaves do the laundry, while your house girl recovers from her well deserved lashings.
She was probably too busy sniffing your underwear to pay attention...
is she a PROFESSIONAL? If so, she does not get a tip anyway. As a maid, she probably is one of those who for self-esteem wants to pretend she is professional and likes to claim the word in conversation but is actually a wage earner on whom a tip is properly bestowed. Except in this case. NO TIP FOR YOU.
Get over it. If she has been with you for a while and you like her, being it up nicely a me get over it. No need to make someone miserable over you skanky sheets. She knows she did it and probably feels terrible for it.
I thought it was kind of odd she didn't leave a note explaining it. Unless the remade bed was a big message. She's been cleaning our place for about two years. I find usually they get sloppy after about two years. I think we'll just find another one who'll try harder... for two years.
First, stop calling her a cleaning lady and start calling her a more professional name: cleaning woman.
Depends on how much you utilize her, pay her and treat her. Do you pay social security for what you pay her which you are required by law to do?
If you trust her and value keeping her I would just show her the sheets and ask that she not do anymore laundry.
r4 made me lmao
whoops, I meant r9
1. be glad you can afford a cleaning lady.
2. give the sheets to Goodwill.
3. treat yourself to some nice new sheets.
4. stop being such a whiny cunt.
Oh, OP, I feel your pain. Just use the car elevator to get out your Bugatti Veyron SuperSport and let the top down as you cruise to the Equestrian center for a little dressage to calm yourself down!
Housekeepers always ruin or break stuff, thats just the way it is. if you don't like it you need to do everything yourself.
All housekeepers (not cleaning lady - Jesus!) fuck up. In fact, all people fuck up. And surprise, surprise, none of us is paid to fuck up, but we still do on occasion. I've had things broken that I loved, too. It just goes with the territory of hiring someone else to take care of what is really your responsibility. Infuriating at times, but if you want it to be perfect, you simply have to manage your own affairs, because you'll do it right. So you make the trade off.
If you otherwise like her and she performs well for you, it will be a huge slap to fire her over one mistake. Plus it will just make her feel really bad about herself.
How would you like to be measured so harshly, inversely proportionate to your low wage? If you lost your business, or job, after one mistake, how would you feel? Those of us who are in the position to hire others (at much lower pay than we earn) sometimes get this life lesson to remember that compassion for humanity is more important than our precious trinkets. It's hard for me too as I'm attached to my possessions, but all things considered, we have the better shake in life. Let's not be greedy and small-minded.
Do mention it, though, so she knows it matters to you. If she offers to pay, tell her no (cmon, she's a housekeeper, she can't afford to buy expensive sheets for someone else). I guarantee she'll feel bad enough all on her own. And then move forward, treating her well.
What R21 said.
To which I'll add: THREE sets of sheets in one wash load?
No wonder she used bleach — she was trying to get all the shit stains out, you whores.
Except R21 in this case she appears to have gone out of her way to make this " mistake": she's not supposed to be doing laundry in the first place, and second any cleaning person with half a brain knows you should never use bleach on coloured sheets.
I would confront her with the ruined sheets, ask her why she felt it necessary to launder them and use bleach when she wasnt supposed to be doing either, tell her how much they cost you, and let her go.
Accidents happen but you shouldn't have to worry that your property is at risk at being needlessly destroyed. Sorry but that's a deal breaker for me.
R22 this isn't a case of accidentally knocking a vase off the shelf while dusting: she wasn't supposed to be doing laundry in the first place, and when she did she destroyed OP's property. Worse, she acted as if nothing happened and never bothered to apologize. That would bother me the most: It's a beach of trust.
[quote]in this case she appears to have gone out of her way to make this " mistake":
This sounds more like projection than fact. The notion that someone who isn't psychotic deliberately makes a mistake of this sort to punish an employer is fodder for the doctor's couch.
Be careful, OP. I'd had to think what she's putting in your FOOD...
I see what you're all saying, and there's a possibility she is pissed at OP for something. Especially since laundry isn't her chore. Maybe they have been unkind to her or pay her less than market rate? If so, there's no alternative but to terminate. But I would always err on the side of kindness the first time. Possibly, she likes OP so much that she wanted to do a little extra for him. Maybe she truly meant well.
I would see how she handles it when I confronted her on the ruined sheets, and give her another chance. Over time, if it seemed there was passive aggression, yes, I'd let her go. But not until I was pretty sure.
Why you always such a beetch to me Yeffrey?
Damn straight I used bleach on those babies.
Cum slut that OP is, I don't get paid enough to be dealing with hazardous wastes and toxic dumps like his sheets.
Why would she suddenly do the washing?
Where were the sheets (all three sets)?
Been cleaning for decades and have only fucked up a few times. I always offer to pay. Most people are nice and say to forget it. My biggest fuck up was a scratched built in mirror. My insurance covered the complete replacement. Almost $3000
I feel responsible if I break something.
Forcefully grab her by the neck and guide her face toward the piled-up sheets while saying, "No! No!"
Get a nice house boy who won't give a s*&t about doing something extra, at least not something extra like washing sheets.
If her name is Yoselyn, keep her away from young relatives and kitchen knives.
Pics of the sheets or it didn't happen.
[quote]Bring it up to her to make sure she doesn't do it again and then let it go. They're sheets, she didn't damage your internal organs.
If sheets are you breaking point, you have far bigger problems.
[quote]That would bother me the most: It's a beach of trust.
Therein lies the problem: OP now has sand is his vagina.
Beat her, beat some sense into her.
Of course you are contributing to her social security.
Tell her you're not paying her until the replacement value of the sheets has been worked off.
That's not working for free. That's paying off a debt.
Bitchy, spoiled, elderly gay thread.
R42-it's eldergay. You'd do well to remember that tonight when you're lying on your stone pillow and using discarded wrapping paper for bedsheets.
lol @ BDG (bitter dyslexic gayling) who can't even get the term right... THanks for playing Gilbert.
How many of you would have been fired at work over one mistake? What kind of boss would do that?
[quote]She's a nice lady, but she fucked up and she's not paid to fuck up.
What a ghastly thing to say. but you obviously have no idea how to deal with people working for you.
As 'she's a nice lady', show her her mistake and ask her to leave the laundry alone in future.
[quote]Do we ask for compensation for the sheets she ruined?
No, you absolutely do not ask 'a nice lady' on a cleaner's wage for compensation.
If she fucks up again, then you might consider replacing her.
OP here... I am not gonna bill her for the sheets... my partner thinks she should offer but neither one of is going to raise the issue. I think it's odd to have damaged something (let alone three sets of something) and not say a word. They weren't cum soaked sheets. Those we change and launder ourselves. Rude to ask somebody else to wipe up after! It's a residence, not a bath house.
I doubt she laundered all three sets at once. I never thought of that. I tend to let laundry pile up and do a massive load... left over system from my college days.
I don't know why she decided to suddenly do laundry. The laundry wasn't even in her way. As far as I know she never goes to the basement. I prefer doing my own laundry.
However I do think we'll make a change. Like I say, after about two or three years they start trying less. And she's always asking to substitute days she works, which makes it hard to plan. Friends of ours have the same complaint about their cleaning lady so maybe we'll just swap.
Lady Marjorie, that's not a very logical position to take. Drycleaners aren't exactly paid like lawyers and if they fucked up your clothes compensation wouldn't be an unreasonable request.
She is paid what she's paid in line with the going rate in town. We're very generous to her at Christmas and generally flexible when she's wanting yet another change in her working hours. She's paid to clean the house thoroughly, not damage anything in the process, and show up on the days she's agreed to show up. She's got it pretty good, all things considered.
But no, we're not asking her to pay for or replace the sheets. God knows where she'd buy them anyway!
[quote]Lady Marjorie, that's not a very logical position to take. Drycleaners aren't exactly paid like lawyers and if they fucked up your clothes compensation wouldn't be an unreasonable request.
Er, no. Not even close. Look up "false equivalency troll" in the DL style manual.
[quote]Like I say, after about two or three years they start trying less
Is that what THOSE PEOPLE do?
OP, are you there when she cleans? Did you see her there that day? My guess is that she sent someone else in her place to do the cleaning and they did the sheets thinking it was part of the normal routine. Or she brought someone else along with her to help, and they took it upon themselves to do the sheets. Your lady might not have noticed until she had put them in the wash and by then it was too late.
This happened to me once, several years ago when we were both working a lot and just didn't have the time for cleaning. Everything was fine the first year or so... then one day I came home from work sick, completely forgetting that it was cleaning day. I walked in the door and there was a strange woman sitting on my sofa watching tv. She was stunned when I came in; she explained that she was there helping clean and that my original cleaning lady had left to get some supplies. She jumped up and continued cleaning, but the original lady never came back with the "supplies". I was upset that she (original) had let someone else in my home without telling me first so I made up an excuse to let her go.
Ask your cleaning lady if she was the one that actually cleaned that day.
And we are to assume, OP/R48 you give 110% on the job, never stopping to look at porn on the company computer, or make/take personal phone calls, tend to personal business on company time, etc. etc. etc.
Your statement at R48 reeks of Lord and Lady Romney. Ewwwww, kill it.
Really - Rachel's servants are becoming as rude as she is.
With any luck her replacement will be the disaster you deserve. Are you sure your BF didn't pour bleach in there after a drunken fuck to get your shit off the shits?
How often does she come? And how many hours is she paid for?
I once had a cleaning lady who started out wonderfully. I aways tried to accommodate her requests: she was short of cash and wanted an advance on payment, I would oblige.
She wanted a change of work day; I would oblige.
However with time, I started to get the feeling that she resented me for some reason. I treated her very nicely but comments she would make made me realize that she was unhappy with her lot life.
Finally, I caught her stealing 50 euro and had to let her go.
I find it odd that your cleaning lady did laundry when she was not supposed to. Or that she used bleach on coloured items. Anyone knows not to do that. And she never mentioned the damage done?
Perhaps she may have deep seated issues with you...
Agree w/ 53. Your sheets probably needed it, as you are a giant shit, Mary Antoine.
Perhaps she bedded some raunchy, bemuscled construction worker upon your filthy laundry heap.
You can either forget this happened or kill her
I was there first with the shit-sheet theory, R53/R54.
It's clearly what happened.
OP I hate it when someone uses bleach on colors too. But I would just suck it up, thank her for doing the extra work and ask her not to use bleach the next time. Or ask her not to do your wash again.
Who really sees your old sheets anyway? Do you have orgies or something were you would be embarassed by bleach spots? I think your guests might be comforted by your cleanliness.
[quote] How many of you would have been fired at work over one mistake? What kind of boss would do that?
If I took his money or his personal property and decided to clean it - despite the fact that he never asked to do this and I ruined it, yes I would expect him to fire me
OP, you obviously did not grow up wth servants or help.
You do not ask her to pay for them. It's just not done. You can reinstruct her or you can fire her. But you cannot ask her to compensate for the loss.
Perhaps you would do better with a cleaning service. They might have insurance for these losses you seem to unable to afford.
I would NEVER fire Consuela for making a mistake.
It's much more effective to lock her in the basement for a period of time.
Count your blessings and be glad you can pay to have someone clean your house. You're among a very small percentage of people on the planet. I'd say in your case, explain to her how to use your cleaning products. I think it'd be okay to show her the damages sheets, but be gracious and absolutely do not imply that she should pay for them and, under no circumstances accept any sort of payment. She needs that money a lot mor than you do.
When she gets a handle on how to do your laundry to your expectations, give her a bonus or a gift card, as a thank you for the effort I am sure she will make in b future (and as a thank you to the Universe that you are so fortunate to be having your bedding cleaned by someone, not cleaning other people's bedding for a living.)
BTW: I strongly urge you to use natural cleaning products, not only for laundry, but for everything else. Method brand has an excellent product for everything. OxyClean powder is a good substitute for really bad stains.
If you live in a city your laundry is already soaked with toxic chlorine (and fluoride and who knows what other chemicals) from your municipal water. You don't need to add to the poisonous brew. One day you might reach a "tipping point" like I did and suddenly find yourself going from someone who loved the smell of Windex to a guy with Multiple Chemical Sensitivity. Go green for the planet and for yourself.
OP is Jeff Lewis.
Wacky stuff happens. Get over it or tell your new age therapist about it.
OP you do have to let her know it is not acceptable, but do be gracious, and do not ask her to reimburse. It was some fuckin sheets. Clearly she needs instruction. If you ignore it altogether she will think you don't care. That's not good either.
Wear them and chase her around the front lawn shouting, "Mammy the Knights are A-Comin' fer You!!!!!"
Yes, cut her hourly wage from $4 to $3 and threaten to stop the pension and health contributions you are surely contributing, 'cause you wouldn't take advantage of somebody's poverty to exploit their hard work, would you?
I, personally, would not listen to a further word Lady Bellamy says. Everyone knows there are no significant 3-digit addresses in Eaton Place.
[quote]All housekeepers (not cleaning lady - Jesus!)
She's not his housekeeper. She comes in to clean, that's all.
What's wrong with 'domestic servant' or 'does the rough', even?
Let's keep it real.
Clearly OP didn't grow up with servants...and it shows. This is the sort of thing you 'phone your mother about.
Ah. "Keep it real." Fave phrase of fux.
Or maybe the maid isn't the one who washed the sheets....
[quote]When she gets a handle on how to do your laundry to your expectations, give her a bonus or a gift card, as a thank you for the effort I am sure she will make in b future
Are you fucing kidding me? A "bonus" for not fucking up? For simply doing her JOB? She's a CLEANING LADY, which means she's supposed to actually know how to clean. This isn't on the job training.
Let me guess: you're an elementary school teacher in a "child-centric learning" environment where every student is special, no one fails, and everyone wins a prize and there are no losers.
[quote]Ah. "Keep it real." Fave phrase of fux.
Not in England, my dear. Not at all...and not in 1907.
I wonder if she did send somebody in to substitute for her? She wanted to switch days that day and I asked if she would stick to the original schedule because we were having guests in that weekend and it had to be done. I can ask the caterer because they were over during the afternoon. It wouldn't surprize me because there is a whole network of nannies and cleaning ladies in town. She could have sent a friend.
R51, my partner and I are both veterinarians and run our own business so I'm not ripping anybody off. But working together or for another vet I can guarantee you I didn't spend any of my employers' time looking at fucking porn. Where do you work? Had experience with that particular time waste?
R53, I can assure you that even during our drunkest fucks we've never wound up with shit on the sheets. I assume you have, having brought it up, and even though I'm only a vet I would urge you nonetheless to see a doctor about it. It doesn't sound like you're functioning properly.
Thanks to those with some real insight and thoughts. I know it takes all kinds. It's just unfortunate.
And for whoever asked she comes in two times a week for three hours and one day for seven and a half. And she gets paid for every hour she works. $12 an hour, cash, because she wants it in cash.
Break into her home. Take a dump in her bed. Leave.
There, you're even. Move on. I am sure your cleaning lady will.
I know (duh) she lives on a very low wage of course. But she did cost you a lot of money (??) by doing something you never asked her to do. Ignoring it totally seems strange to me. Also firing her, if she's been fine up to now and you like her.
One possibility not mentioned is to give her the choice of paying you back over time--i.e., take $10 (or whatever you think) off the paycheck each time until she's paid it off (or paid off half or whatever you feel is the right amount). She will know you could have fired her over it but liked her enough to keep her on, and she will feel better I would think, doing something to compensate you, and you will stop feeling ripped off. And she will be much more careful in the future.
Seems to me a much better idea than exchanging cleaning persons with your friends, since they are dissatisfied as well--that makes no sense at all).
We're not asking her to replace the sheets. It didn't seem feasible to me and my partner only wondered why she didn't offer. We wouldn't have accepted. Obviously we have much more money than she does. It's more about why no explanation.
I just think the swap idea will make them refocus on doing good work. This always happens. Things start getting nicked or scratched or broken because they take the job for granted. I am not paying her to clean, I am paying her to clean well. When people ask me to care for their pet, they're not asking for a bare minimum. They want the best I can do. I expect the same of the people who work for me.
LOL - it's true... it really is hard to get good help these days!
OK, fine, OP. She wrecked your sheets.
The value of that lost property is what you could reasonably expect to sell them for. What's the market for used sheets? ZERO.
I have a brilliant idea. Why don't you two lazy fucks clean up your own god damned messes. It's not all that difficult or time consuming and you wouldn't have to come here to bitch about the quality of "the help."
Its a win-win for everybody.
And what would she do for work then? Jealous much?
I'm sure she could find other pompous assholes to clean their double wides.
Centre hall Georgian. Had it built for us.
R74 Meant to type "...thank you for the effort I am sure she will make in THE future," I missed the auto-correct. No, I'm not any of the things you think. I just know that a token of appreciation, random act of kindness, etc. really goes a long way.
Our society is getting so twisted by all the websites devoted to complaining about people and businesses, the customer service surveys at the bottom of receipts offering prizes for "feedback," even Amazon reviews are clogged with "product reviews" by people who hate books, DVD, etc. because of extremist right-wing political points of view, or because a third-party seller didn't do their job in packing and shipping the item properly!
For a sense of how negative and bilious we have become as a society look at the comments beneath You Tube videos! People will actually get into the most profane, off-topic, hostile arguments over the most innocuous clip of an old music video or scene from a show.
All I'm saying is if you simply turn that around and do the opposite; look the cashier in the eye and thank them for their customer service, let your postal worker or UPS employee know you appreciate how hard it must be to do their jobs in this horrible weather, or under the threat of closing small-town Post Offices-it's a good thing. People need to hear it and people need to express it-if only because it might make you stop and be grateful for what you have.
I'm not suggesting a bribe for doing the laundry right, or a condescending "gold star" of a gift, as if the person is an idiot who was truly challenged by the requirements of laundry. I'm simply recommending focusing on the good, rewarding the people who make this difficult life nicer, easier, more efficient and who have a good work ethic.
When is the last time you wrote a thank you letter, not out of social obligation, but out of genuine thankfulness over a job well done. Those little things mean a lot and isn't it a time we should all be pulling together to encourage civility, courtesy...niceness in general? We see the alternative on the news each night and it's not a very appealing path to be heading down.
R81 what kind of sheets were they? Where and when did you buy them and how much did they cost?
[quote]She's got it pretty good, all things considered.
But no, we're not asking her to pay for or replace the sheets. God knows where she'd buy them anyway!
Christ on a cracker, OP, you think a cleaning lady has it pretty good? She spends her entire life cleaning up other people's messes. She does nothing but shit work for very little money and no benefits.
If she were to replace the sheets, what difference would it make where she bought them? As long as they're the same brand/thread count/colors, who cares?
Is this your first experience with having a cleaning lady? You're so obviously clueless.
[quote]LOL - it's true... it really is hard to get good help these days!
This is nothing new.
In England, in 1938, this was called The Servant Problem.
Due to this, a few Jews stuck in Germany & Austria were able to immigrate to England on a servant's visa and this ultimately, of course, saved their lives.
Check out the link. Hopefully it will work in America and you can watch the short film.
I am beginning to gag on this. I did post earlier, and we do have a cleaning woman, but I now call foul.
This much talk about sheets has got to be a joke? Add this to the OP's mention of the centre hall Georgian home, the caterers and his other Limoges liberal clueless comments, and it begins to sound like a parody chapter from "The Help."
If this is not fake, it should be.
Three sheets to the wind with y'all, and all y'all.
R92 He can't be that rich. He only has a part time cleaning lady he pays $12/hour in cash. And he is wondering if he can afford to replace 3 sets of sheets.
OP, you sound like a major jerk. Why should she pay for your sheets?
Use a cleaning company, The Maids, etc. They are bonded and insured and quit being such an insufferable fuck and picking on an unskilled laborer.
OP, read the "La Cote Basque" chapter of Truman Capote's Answered Prayers.
[quote] she comes in two times a week for three hours and one day for seven and a half.
If she doesn't do the washing, how on earth is she spending her time?
Cleaning the litter box, r97. And OP doesn't have a cat.
We're still talking about this?
I already told you OP, your cleaning lady did not clean your house that day. Someone else was there in her place, or there with her to help.
Simply ask her if she was the one that cleaned that day, and if she says yes, ask her why she did the sheets. If she was doing them to be nice, explain to her that the sheets were damaged and please don't do laundry in the future.
If she admits she wasn't the one that cleaned, you will need to decide if you can trust her in the future. Not only do you have to trust her judgement regarding the people she allows into your home without your knowledge/permission, you have to worry about more items being damaged if she does decide to do it again.
I can't stand you, OP. (I'm guessing, anyway).
Also... JFC what a bunch of jealous bitter queens getting all pissy with OP just because he & his partner can afford a cleaning lady. He has already said that he compensates her well and gives her extra on holidays, etc.
And clearly many of you do not know any cleaning ladies. I happen to know several, the ones who work for themselves are quite happy with the work. They can pick and choose their customers, they keep 100% of what they make, and can make their own hours. If the job is a nightmare they simply don't go back. If you are your own boss it actually isn't a bad job at all.
OP, everyone who has a job is paid not to fuck up.
Yet everyone does at some point.
OP, take her out back and shoot her...gangland style.
R102, "if" the job is a nightmare?
On what planet is that job not a nightmare? It's a shitty job for shitty pay and no benefits. Please spare us stories about the hordes of cleaning ladies you know who are ecstatic with their awful work and lousy pay.
The OP hasn't said he compensates her well. He said he pays her $12.00 an hour. No holiday bonus can make up for wages that low. I've had cleaning ladies all of my life. I haven't paid that little in 20 years. It's appalling.
Her wage is almost $4 an hour more than the minimum in our state and she's paid in cash, which she requested, because her husband works at a salaried job. There are worse situations.
What do you pay, R105? I am curious. And is it cash? $12 an hour is the going rate where we live.
And here are the average wages for this category... we're paying appropriately and you can assume since these are official figures she's doing better being paid cash.
Too bad we don't know more about OP. Then we could report his ass to the IRS for paying his help under the table and/or not reporting income on a 1099 form.
When we had a cleaner we paid $70 for a couple of hours of work. $35-50 seems to be about the going rate in my neck of the woods.
Yeah, you could, R109. And that would really help the cleaning lady out, wouldn't it? Nothing like a minimum wage job with what little you get made less by all those wonderful deductions. As I said, her husband has a salaried job with benefits. This is what she asked for. It's to her benefit. We'd have paid her through either system.
I pay $80 for 3 hours of work for a 2000 square foot house (no laundry), which seems to be the going rate down here in Florida.
OP, just an objective opinion from a stranger: you sound like an asshole.
You need to clean your own shit. Or call The Maids.
There is a certain personality type that hires people to clean their homes and 9 times out of 10 they are insufferable, entitled, demeaning assholes.
Thanks for reinforcing that stereotype, OP.
I pay $80.00 for 3 hrs. work for my elderly mother's ranch cluster home, 1,400 sq. No laundry.
That's true [R109] and others should take this into consideration when they consider if her wages are fair.
What part of the country?
Their is dignity in all work. Some people clean homes. Let's not get all liberal about it.
But some workers are underpaid and vulnerable to poor conditions. This is the case here.
No need to say more. You underpay and are either joking or the most bourgeoisie dude to post out here today. Bleached white.
Some laundry was done, and some sheets were "ruined." It is not a murder mystery.
You present this problem to DL rather than have a respectful conversation with someone you employ and trust in your home ?
You are not a monster, but a fine example of why the middle class grows ever smaller.
I will bet that your housekeeper has a happier home than yours.
Thank you, Isobel Crawley. Windbag.
I once had a woman purposely rip my t-shirt to shreds just because it said hell on it. I think she was some religious fanatic. It was from the Cayman Islands. That's where hell is. I still can't believe she didn't know that.
No matter her citizen status, she made a stupid mistake. When one makes a mistake, one usually owns up to it, and offers to make restitution. If not, then it's up to the employer to make it his business that it doesn't happen again. If he/she doesn't, then it may well happen again and again.
I am too dead right to be a windbag.
What would be your contribution?
Are you threatened by men who make points for the common good, and are instructional for the individual. What kind of bottom are you?
What I always find amusing about you high minded types who know it all and can't help but instruct the rest of us, is how you undercut a good point with your inability to keep the smug cuntiness out of it.
R105, $12 an hour is not a low wage for a servant. She better be fucking grateful she's making anything and grateful that she's allowed to stay in our beautiful country. There's more where this cunt came from.
Clean your own house you lazy, entitled ass.
OK OP, why would I undercut my good points? I made them and challenged your ways of thinking in more than one post. I have questioned the veracity of this situation too, because it is hard to believe that this is a real problem, or that you can't address it.
I am not smug or cunty in person. I am a smart strong and sophisticated man. Smugness is an internet construct that appears in frustration when coping with relentless opposition and stupidity. I am more an arrogant dick.
I tried to help you.
Sometimes it is not possible.
[quote]What kind of bottom are you?
That's a high point in... teachable moments?
There are many ways of making a point. You seem to have got it. I can tell you respect me now.
We high-minded smug cunts usually have a life that requires winning on larger points than oppressing a housekeeper. So, yes I am good and used what was necessary to school you. Teachable.
Take what you need and leave the rest behind...
You are welcome.
No you don't ask her for compensation you arsehole, you are probably paying her minimum wage or below that. If you pay penunts you get monkeys.