The NASTIEST Person on B*R*O*A*D*W*A*Y THREAD, the 2013 Edition!
Starting here, starting now.
Excuse me! Ex-cuse me!
Don't forget me, dolls.
SO, are we going to get any dirt, or what?
How come no one speaks of Nick Adams? He seems rather naughty.
Nasty and naughty are two different things.
WELCOME TO THE THEATAH, YOU FOOLS!
TAKE IN THE RICH FLAVAAAH!
Since Nicol Williamson died, the title has been owned by Mandy Patinkin.
What is Joe Mantello like? And Tracy Letts?
my rich boyfriend will sue you if you bastards mention me
We need to have nominees and vote for a winner.
So far, we have:
Lauren Bacall hasn't worked on Broadway in the past decade and has no intention of returning, so she's disqualified from this competitive list. And are these women just on the list because they're demanding and/or quirky? Or are they truly nasty?
Why limit this list to just actors?
Just wait til I arrive, bitches.
Oh, that's right, John Benjamin Hickey is supposed to be a jerk. That's essentially him in his character on The Good Wife.
Victoria screams at the fly techs.... if she's not careful one of them might slam her in the back wall mid flight.
I can't believe NO ONE has mentioned me. NO ONE.
Terri Sue Feldshuh
while we are waiting for insiders to reveal all lets play "how would hollywood cast the first 2 nastiest person on Broadway threads"
AMERICAN HORROR STORY 3: BROADWAY BLOODY BROADWAY
BY Ryan MURPHY
LINDA LAVIN played by LILY RABE
LAUREN BACALL played by JESSICA LANGE
IAN McKELLEN played by JOSEPH FEINNES
HELEN MIRREN played by SARAH PAULSON
DAVID STAITAIRN played by DYLAN McDERMOTT
any other ideas?
Buckley may be quite mad, but nasty? Really?
And what did Strathairn do to put him on the list, r19?
Finally, Helen Mirren does not have a nasty reputation, she's known for being just the opposite; so where are you getting that from?
Shirley Maclaine stab Carol Haney in the back during the run of the Pajama Game.
Shirley wasn't in The Pajama Game. What's the story?
Carol was brilliant, btw.
Never mind, broadway...Haney still brilliant, died too young.
r21, on the other NPOB threads the hatred between Helen Mirren and Ian McKellen was discussed in excruciating detail. David S was in a production with them and was kind of not treated well by Ian. Helen Mirren and David Straitarin came off fine, Ian a little bitchy. That is what the post was referring to.
not that THEY were nasty but the situation was.
No, just no. He is one of the best young directors in the theater world today
R24 Obviously doesn't know the legendary story about MacLaine going on for Haney in Pajama Game--giving rise to banal lyric in "She's No Longer a Gypsy" (in Applause)----"pulled a Shirley MacLaine."
O tempora! O mores!
"Shirley wasn't in The Pajama Game. What's the story?"
R24, your show queen card is revoked (if you ever had one).
Haney never recovered from Shirley's backstabbing backstage at the Pajama Game.
Turned to booze and later died, never getting over what Shirley did to her.
but wait a second how did Shirley make Haney unable to perform that night? Wasn't she sick? I mean how exactly is Shirley responsible for that. And how well did they even know each other. Shirley says she got to the theater late with her resignation notice in hand after spending the day at Jones beach.
Is that bullshit? What exactly happened?
Yeah, I had a brain lesion, sorry for the mind slip, r28, r29. As soon as I hit enter it all came to me. Broadway.
I'm recently off caffeine and my crank is slow.
No, MacLaine was Haney's understudy and there was a situation where Haney had a twisted ankle or something.
Movie producer Hal Wallis went to see Pajama Game to see Haney in action. Instead he saw Shirley and that is who got the movie contract.
'Coincidence' that Haney couldn't perform on that very night?
Shirley's rise to the top went something like this:
Whatever he is, Joe Mantello is not a YOUNG director.
That is all.
I don't think Betty Buckley is nasty. She actually has quite a nice rep these days, since moving back to Texas - although she is eccentric and needs things to go her way. She has a very good assistant who manages her very well, also.
Let's be honest. If Hal Wallis had seen Carol Haney, he would not have signed her. She was very talented, but not a face for the big screen.
R41 = Buckley's assistant/lover.
You know not of what you speak, child.
Now, hush, or else you'll wake the dragon...
True enough, r42, but Shirley is no beauty either, and should never have been encouraged to sing during her career, since she CAN'T. Once she got her foot in the Hollywood door, she clawed her way to the Rat Pack and never let go.
Betty's assistant is not her lover, I know that much, Miz Bacall.
True story..... years ago someone on a theater chat board (which must remain anonymous) started posting stories about Buckley giving blow jobs to stage hands backstage at SUNSET BLVD. Buckley's lesbian assistant/manager/ whatever saw the posts and threatenend the owners with legal action. Surprised that those posts lasted as long as they did... since that timethings get zapped on a regular basis.
[quote]Buckley giving blow jobs to stage hands backstage at SUNSET BLVD.
You say that like it's a bad thing.
The stage hands at Sunset Blvd.
Please tell me she was wearing the turban.
R49 She used the turban to collect the cum shots.
I have to update my chart........
Caught Betty's act at the Colony Record Store once. I was behind her on line, and the starstruck guy at the register was fawning over her, but in a very nice and respectful way. "Miss Buckley, I love your work, and I must tell you that I was instrumental in our carrying your latest cd." She said not a word, just nodded curtly and stomped out imperiously. So sad. I LOVED her on "Eight is Enough"!
Shirley MacLaine was adorable-looking from the mid 50s through the early 60s. No, she wasn't beautiful, like Sophia Loren or Ava Gardner or Katharine Hepburn at her prime, but she was certainly as pretty as, say, Margaret Sullavan, Sylvia Sidney, Jean Arthur, Wendy Hiller, or any number of other ingenues throughout film history. She was a jolie laide with the emphasis on jolie. She was also a very good comedienne; see Ask Any Girl or The Apartment. And, yes, I'm sure she can be insufferable.
this is a quote from Shirley MacLaine about the situation with Carol Haney
"“…they gave me the understudy job, but I never had a rehearsal. I had thought Carol would go on with a broken neck, so I had decided instead to understudy Gwen Verdon in Can-Can at the Shubert Theater down the street. Then a few nights later, Carol sprained her ankle.
I had my “I’m leaving” notice in my pocket when I arrived at the St. James. Across the stage door stood Jerry Robbins, Bob Fosse, Hal Prince, etc. “Haney is out,” they said. “You’re on.” I couldn’t believe what I was hearing. “I’m on? Without a rehearsal? “
“There I was, waiting in the wings, when the announcer said Carol Haney would be out and I would replace her. There were “boos” from the orchestra to the second balcony.”
So is she lying? I am not inclined to defend Shirley MacLaine but it sounds like some random queens fantasy that she pulled an all about eve.
Is it common knowledge that this story is false?? What gives?
I think Janis Paige might be the reason some think it was an All About Eve situation. Paige was the female lead in The Pajama Game, but was replaced by Doris Day for the movie version. Paige did some movies but never really made it in that medium. She seemed a little sour about MacLaine's "Star is Born" moment in the Broadway: Golden Age documentary.
Haney, on the other hand, repeated her stage role in the movie of The Pajama Game. So if she "coulda been a contendah", she had that movie as a platform.
Everybody on Broadway now is too boring to be nasty.
yeah, kind of a annoying when people make assertions withouteven a story that makes the claim make sense.
I mean are people accusing MacLaine of pulling a "Tonya Harding" on Carol Haney?
Plus the movies that made Shirley a movie star were not musicals and the ones she did were kind of bombs, weren't they?
No, just no. He is one of the best young directors in the theater world today
AHAHAHAHAAAA! Oh, my sides, MY SIDES!
The rumor about Buckley was that she was giving blow jobs at the top of the staircase just minutes before her first entrance.
I am BIG! It's the loads that got small!
Omg R61! And this is why I'm addicted to DL. Would you all stop being funny so that I can go make dinner?
R59 called it.
[quote]one of the best young directors...
Which word is the biggest lie?
Calling Mantello a director and best is fairly accurate when you look at the other regular directors in NY theater like Chris Ashley, Mark Brokaw, Rob Ashford and Michael Mayer. And if you throw in Trevor Nunn and Julie Taymor, young is fair too.
Joe Mantello is 50. I don't care who you're comparing him to, fifty ain't young.
Compared to octogenarian Mike Nichols, 50 is a spring chicken!
Patti Lupone seems like such a bitter cow. She's not even attractive, I'm sure she's angry about that too.
In a recent Entertainment Weekly article about "Les Miz", she even had something nasty to say about Susan Boyle's rendition of "I Dreamed A Dream" or whatever that song is called. IIRC, PL called Boyle's rendition "fucking crap" or something along those lines. Bitch certainly doesn't mince any words!
I once saw Lupone on TV saying something rude about her own fans, WTF is wrong with this woman?!! With a personality like hers, she should kiss the ground she has any fans!
Patti Lupone has always come across as being extremely bitter that she never made the transition to films or TV. She's so full of herself, it appears she thinks her success should have been way beyond Broadway.
[quote]omething nasty to say about Susan Boyle's rendition of "I Dreamed A Dream" or whatever that song is called. IIRC, PL called Boyle's rendition "fucking crap" or something along those lines.
She said something along the lines of that was reality TV crap
Patti thought she'd become Barbra..."an actress" how found fame singing on Bway and then went to Hollywood ....she was stunned with the lack of offers post-Evita.
Well, she's right about Boyle.
Hey, Patti got her own series after EVITA.
Yeah, she HATED the guy who played her husband, the girl who played her young daughter proved to be a better actress, and all the press attention went to the kid with real Down's Syndrome playing her son, but she did get her own series, and it ran for FIVE years.
That's more than Merman ever got - or Bernadette Peters!
It wasn't "The Patti LuPone" show, r71. It was about the family, the ensemble.
In fact, she didn't do much of the last season because she was over it by then.
[quote]Hey, Patti got her own series after EVITA.
She got a series a decade after Evita. She even extended her Evita contract and gave an infamous self-pitying interview in the NY Times lamenting her lack of other offers ...and Evita was such a nightmare how come she extended and did the Austrailian company? hmmmmm
Mandy Patinkin went from Evita right into Ragtime then Yentl....then....
The TV program, "It's a Life" (or something like that), the husband in it that Lupone did not like was Bill Smitrovich.
I knew his kids in Bridgeport, CT. Can you tell me why Patti didn't get along with him?
[quote]I knew his kids in Bridgeport, CT. Can you tell me why Patti didn't get along with him?
He didn't indulge her neurotic craziness.
Bill Smitrovich is NOT a difficult guy to get along with. She wanted to run the whole thing and make it about herself. That was the conflict. And she wasn't sublte about it. At the time she was repped by David Guc and he did many things for Patti no other agent would do including making her look well mannered by comparison. There was never a more loathsome loudmout agent than David Guc. I can still remmeber his whiney voice screaming " 50 thousand dollars???????YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT PATTI LUPPPPPPPPPPPPOOONNNNNNNNNEEEEEEEEEE" when negotiating her contract.
His thinking was she should get top TV dollar even though she hadn't proven herself in the medium.
He was the only person who could make her look like she had manners.
Chris Burke wrote in his book that Patti LuPone refused to do scenes with him.
Patti would insist Chris acting coach stand in when the camera was on her, then have the acting coach stand in for her when the camera was on Chris. She said she had better things to do as the reason for using a stand in when doing scenes with Chris
The only person Patti got along with was Kelli Martin. Patti would be like a second mom to her, even sing at her wedding and play her mother in a TV movie and on Army Wives.
I remember that they had the cast sing the theme to "Life Goes On" and Patti was trying to drown out everybody else.
Patti LuPone may be nasty, but at least she's entertainingly nasty.
But let's not decide who's nasty when Dataloungers say some of the most vile things on the internet in the cloak of anonymity on a daily basis. Just read the Rosa Parks thread if you don't believe me.
Let's not forget, I always pinched those little kids backstage during GYPSY... I wanted them to be scared of me!
R80, you sound like it's time for a break from DL.
Not being facetious. I just returned from a year away.
When you can't enjoy a good B'way's nastiest thread, you're officially sick of DL and DLers.
R81 But Miss Patti, you told us it was to make our cheeks red!
The juvenile cast of "Gypsy"
Betty is back on a staircase for Dear World. Queen's everywhere swoon.
If that's Betty Buckley, why does she look like Ed Asner in a dress? Or maybe a much fatter Marion Ross?
[quote] In a recent Entertainment Weekly article about "Les Miz", she even had something nasty to say about Susan Boyle's rendition of "I Dreamed A Dream" or whatever that song is called. IIRC, PL called Boyle's rendition "fucking crap" or something along those lines.
I wholeheartedly agree!
[quote]Betty is back on a staircase for Dear World. Queen's everywhere swoon.
Somewhere, Ken Mendelbaum is splooging all over his Dell computer monitor.
Is it "splooge" or "spooge"? Or "splooj"?
Patti says that when they did their screen test together, Lupone felt tired and couldn't get the scene right. When they called for a brief break, Smitrovich came over, rubbed her shoulders and told her not to worry because they were perfect together. Patti felt it was condescending and the rub inappropriate. That was it for a good relationship. She had nothing but nice things to say about Burke. He even went to the GYPSY opening night, where they posed for pics together. She also adored the first Paige Thatcher, but doesn't even mention the second one.
Now I've heard Daniel Davis can be nasty, but if you read Ken Levine's blog, apparently Fran Drescher was no walk in the park either. That surprised me.
on the agent side, the nastiest person is BY FAR John Buzzetti - he is without friends & forces his clients to be his friends or he will drop them
Victoria is not making any friends backstage at the Broadway.
The thread (with its title intact) would've made a much better television show than "Smash."
R89, I went through Levines blog and found lots of references to Fran. Clearly he doesn't like her, but why? I couldn't find a particular reason he gives as to why.
Is it Pattie Loop-own or Pattie Loop-own-i?
Enquiring minds couldn't care less. On the other hand, IT'S ME.
Cinderella is so so so awkward and bad. Vicki Clark looked like she was in PAIN during her bizarre flying moments.
r95: Two questions for you, Please.
What are the interpolated songs?
What songs from the original were cut?
Thanking you in advance! :)
Please tell us more about John Buzz(kill)etti! I've heard a few stories about this storied agent but would love to know some more.
Is Buzzetti really worse than George Lane? I thought he was supposed to be the antichrist.
R96, please post general theatre questions in the appropriate thread. This one isn't for Cinderella bashing (though it's a terrible show).
R94, you don't pronounce the final "e.". Loo-Pohn. Long o as in "Oh, nO, it's Patti LuPOne!"
Tovah Feldhuh aka Vulva Toadstool
The nastiest people on Broadway aren't the stars, it's people on Datalounge and TalkinBroadway and all those sites full of bitter, uncreative gays who've wasted their lives being bitter and uncreative.
This thread is proof. Carry on your creepiness, boys.
Ah, but the difference, r105, is that it's contained to message boards.
The Nastiest People on Broadway are out there, doing their jobs, and being nasty to people. And there ARE people who qualify. A lot of the ones who get outed here are simply having a bad day and someone who experiences it writes about it.
But the LuPones, Lanes, Neuwirths ... those are real nasty people.
More than in your face NASTY people there are the passive aggressives and the malignant narcissists that are FAAAB as long as you are their biggest fan and reflect the image they have of themselves.
[quote] More than in your face NASTY people there are the passive aggressives and the malignant narcissists that are FAAAB as long as you are their biggest fan and reflect the image they have of themselves.
I nominate the Camryn Manheim lookalike usher at the Golden. That bitch is the most sour, malodorous, stanky, putrid waste of ectoplasm to ever stain broadway.
R108 means that the really awful people are lovey dicey as long as you are kissing their ass. But try to assert yourself or imply that your needs are as important as theirs they go ballistic.
112 - you've been warned. i'm fully buffered by the buffet and I'm coming after you full steam ahead!
Being fat is just your excuse, so people talk about that and not how completely narcissistic and self-absorbed you are.
Liz, cooking with gas
Does Shia count?
R19, I'd rather see Ian McLellan played by Helen Mirren.
R108 is that you E.D.?
Today, the nastiest person on Broadway! Tomorrow, the hottest person in hell!
Victoria Clark currently in Rodgers + Hammerstein's Cinderella. Biggest cunt in the magic kingdom.
Stories, R119? I'm torn between being disappointed (knew her fairly well in college, and she was a great person in every way then) and intrigued (what the fuck does fame do to people, anyway?).
Fame? Fame hasn't done anything to Vicky Clark except pass her over lightly and then completely abandon her.
This thread is REPLETE with envy. It's quite sad.
Let's hope you drown your sadness in booze, R122, and fall off a trestle in front of a train. We'd like the tracks to be REPLETE with those nine donuts you had for supper, along with your chunks and bits.
R71, I'm sorry I never found the time to appear in a second-rate television show for five years. I was too busy starring in the premieres of such hits as Girl Crazy, Anything Goes, DuBarry Was a Lady, Panama Hattie, Annie Get Your Gun, Call Me Madam and Gypsy over a 30-year period.
Patinkin and Lupone are the nastiest of the nasties.
Proving that to be consummately nasty you also have to be insane.
Along with Betty Buckley, Mandy Patinkin is from all reports certifiably insane rather than "nasty." There is a difference ;-)
I may be a cunt, but I am a SANE cunt! Keep me away from the psychos!
Was Carol Haney's widower Larry Blyden?
Yes, r129. They had a son, who died a few years ago.
What's the story on Alice Ripley? I can't help but raise an eyebrow every time I saw her moniker (RIPLEYTHBAND) appear in the comments section of either Youtube or any article criticizing her performances. I wonder where does all that hate/bitterness is coming from.
Ditto at 127. Betty Lynn, Mandy, Christine Ebersole and Bebe Neuwirth are weird, but not necessarily nasty. Betty is particularly nice to her fans.
Borderline cunts include (but not limited to) Elaine Paige, Victoria Clark, Natascia Diaz, Tovah Feldshuh, Jennifer Holliday, Laura Benanti...
Bacall, LuPone, Stritch, Lavin, Nathan Lane and Melissa Errico on the other hand ... well, go figure. But at least the ones in the third group (minus Errico) are Broadway stars of the highest order. I can't tolerate cunts who are merely famous for being, well, cunts.
Anyone who thinks Mandy Patinkin is not nasty deserves to be on the receiving end of one of his targeted, insulting, hysterical rants about creativity, being squelched, not being appreciated, and being THE ONE PEOPLE ARE PAYING TO SEE before they snark and coo over the non-nastiness of his insanity.
What a bunch of quibbling asses here.
R124, Oh please, Ethel. Just face it, you're simply not camera-friendly, are you? THAT IS WHY.
r132, that's the first time I've heard Elaine Paige called cunty - can you share any stories?
R135, have you listened to her BBC Sunday radio show online? Her laugh is downright sinister and she's as fake as it gets.
R135, It happened to a friend of an acquaintance. I can't remember the exact details; the person who told the story said that after a performance of Sunset Blvd, her friend said "hi" to Elaine. She simply snubbed him and walked past as if she saw nothing.
There is also the possibility that the guy is probably hounding Elaine night after night and she simply got sick of it.
Jenna Russell tells a story of how she worked with Elaine Paige on the first ABBA jukebox musical, and blurted out to Elaine one night: "You're really nice, you know... Everyone said you'd be a cunt." Russell was something like 15 at the time, which explains the faux pas.
Paige explained that living like a nun because of the vocal demands of EVITA led to a "she thinks she's too good to socialise with us" reputation among the chorus.
Dana Ivey seems to have retired.
who's being NASTY this Tony season. Only Nelle Nugent ?
Elaine Paige is definitely an insufferable cunt of the highest order. She has a massive ego and is truly a nasty, evil bitch who uses and abuses people. Manipulative as hell, too!