Why did John Wayne Gayce (the clown killer) do the things he did?

I read a bit of history on this guy and I think it has to do with his horrible childhood and abusive father.

• this is a gayling thread, poor thing, trying to uderstand a world that frightens him.

• F&F R1. She's posting this weirdness in every thread.

• I forget the name of the movie on him,but it was creepy as hell He would just sneak up behind house guests and wack 'em with a hammer. He was one sick fuck. IMO, worse than Dahmer.

• People with sexual problems (in his case, a self-loathing homosexual) will try to hide their shame. In his case that meant in his basement, under dirt, after 'wrestling' or other acts of a sexual nature.

• He did it all because you couldn't spell his name correctly.

• My theory is that serial killers are psychopths who had terribly abusive childhoods.

• R3, if you are thinking of the movie with Brian Dennehy it is "To Catch A Killer" from 1992. Seems to me there was a more recent movie about Gacy.

• r6, if only psychology was as pat as TV crime shows would have you believe.

• r8, I am by no means an expert, but I have been fascinated by serial killers for several decades. I went through a long period where I read every book I could find on the topic. Not all psychopaths are murders. There is something about serial killers that propels them to stalk and kill. I do believe that psychopathy is something a person is born with.

• r9 = r6.

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• There was no hammer involved (as I recall). They were young guys that he brought home (some 'professionals') and at some point he convinced them to let him show them a trick. Unfortunately the trick was on them because after he demonstrated the trick handcuffs on himself and put them on them, they never got out alive. Actually I believe one of them did and wrote a book about it.

• It was a rope trick he used. He demonstrated it on TV

• It seems like a lot had overbearing mothers who were very religious and drunk and/or absent fathers. Home schooled too. Killers in general I mean.

• The movie was just called "Gacy" and the fat guy from "Pee-Wee's Playhouse" played Gacy. I remember the handcuff "trick", he locked the guy up and then said the trick was that you needed the key to get out, he then flashed the key at the kid and laughed evilly. What a fucking creep. There was also that kid that went to see him after writing him for some kind of college project. He claims Gacy tried to rape him while he was visiting. he killed himself a few years ago. When you look into the abyss, the abyss looks into you. Hanging out with and picking the minds of freaks like Gacy can't be good for your psyche.

• He was a 'mo, any more questions? Most serial killers and spree killers are 'mos and / or adopted.

• R14, he was also the adult Stillwell Angel in A League Of Their Own.

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• Nice to see you again 'mo troll. I see nurse Ratched gave you internet privileges tonight.

• He was married twice before he became a serial killer. I blame it on the Frous. They make people go bat shit crazy here, just reading their posts.

• He did those things because he was fucked in the head.

• yes, but fucked in the head by Frous. Wasn't doing it before he was married.

• I think he was sad and just had a couple of bad days, OP.

• Or some bad hair days.

• No R20, his dad was abusive and he was molested. Don't blame it on the fraus.

• R23 but who gave him the bad hair? It was the frous, that's who.

• Is it pronounced Gayce the same way Versace is pronounced Versayce?

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• Shut up R24. Idiot.

• Wow, there sure are a lot of serial killers around in the world, most are straight.

  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_serial_killers_by_number_of_victims

• Even the gay ones just haven't met the right frou yet.

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• Please FF the troll

• r29 You've been flagged

• R26 it was a joke.

• An expert criminologist who studied serial killers, said in every major city in the country, there are usually all-ways around 5 to 10 serial killers in.

• Very relaxing, r32.

• r19 If he was he'd have been found guilty by not reason of insanity. He was declared sane so that wasn't the reason. Please do not waste bandwidth by stating facts which are clearly inaccurate.

• R19: The Model Penal Code states: [A] person is not responsible for criminal conduct if at the time of such conduct as a result of mental disease or defect he lacks substantial capacity either to appreciate the criminality of his conduct or to conform his conduct to the requirements of the law. -- Illinois uses a standard that conforms closely to that wording. It is quite possible that someone can appreciate the criminality of his actions and be nutso. One piece of evidence against Gacy would be his concealing of bodies of his victims. Nobody who has that hobby is playing with a full deck. Gacy showed that he could conform his behavior to the law, except for serial killing: he was a contractor, a job that requires all kinds of compliance to regulations. The standard for insanity is much higher than merely having severe mental problems, and juries don't like the sanity defense anyway. They often think the defendant will walk if they go along with it, which does not happen. The fact that the judge rejected a plea and the jury a verdict of insanity doesn't imply that Gacy, to use the legal term of art, wasn't "Fucked in the head."

• Boys need dads, whether it's Mom and Dad or My Two Dads or My Two Moms' Special man friend. So I'm guessing it was abuse from fraus, obviously. 1. Probably had a mom frau who prevented him from having a suitable dad. 2. Probably had some wife fraus like Mommy.

• Cant shit, clown scare me

• As an example, Jeffrey Dahmer was found sane by doctors and a jury, but he was a nuts as they come.

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• When you name your kid "John Wayne," you're basically cursing them for life.

  J.W. Bobbitt