Julia Stiles has signed on to play a female screenwriter in a Mary Pickford biopic starring Lily Rabe.
Thoughts on this, Silent Screen queens? Rabe does have a great old fashioned look, especially in American Horror Story's first season. Hopefully she gets more roles from this.
Rabe is an amazing actress, but she looks so old. I thought she was in her 40s!
this could be good. Mary Pickford's life would make a good film.
Lily Rabe is a very good actress. This should be good - Mary Pickford had a fascinating life!
I am definitely waiting for this.
Perfect casting. Lily Rabe has exactly the kind of beauty celebrated a hundred years ago, with her heart shaped face and peaches-and-cream complexion. Give her ringlets and she'll look the part perfectly.
Wasn't Mary Pickford a delicate, feminine creature? Lily Rabe is manly! She'd be more right for something like a Rosalind Russell biopic.
[quote]Wasn't Mary Pickford a delicate, feminine creature? Lily Rabe is manly!
She can look delicate and feminine.
Mary Pickford was a prude and a pill. Give me a Clara Bow biopic anyday.
Lily is almost 6' tall. She can look rather husky on stage in spite of the delicate features of her face. They'll have to find some very tall co-stars.
Btw, as both her mom and dad have and had rather large schnozzes, is that a nose job on Lily?
The audience for this is in the 80-plus age range.
It says in the linked article that Dominick Fairbanks is one of the producers. Is he a great-grandson or relation?
I don't think there's really much drama in Mary's life, in spite of her great fame. There was just never any any conflict or tension, unless they've unearthed some secrets the public never knew.
I *AM** still big -- it's the pictures that got small!
Mary never had any children. Maybe he's a grandson of Douglas Fairbanks Jr (who had a different mother, not Mary).
R10 is right. Young people today are so limited in their interests and curiosity, they have no use for the past.
"Btw, as both her mom and dad have and had rather large schnozzes, is that a nose job on Lily?"
Rabe had a large nose. But I never thought of Clayburgh as having one. So I found a picture of the three of them.
As you can see, Jill didn't have a large nose.
Moreover, her nose looks exactly like Lily's.
Who will play daughter-in-law Joan Crawford?
She is the only conflict I can think of in Little Mary's long life.
They should make a biopic of Alla Nazimova...Now that could be an interesting film!
They should make many silent goddess movies before teaming them up for an Avengers-style mega movie.
Theda Bara! Clara Bow! Ms Gloria Swanson!
I think Mary's drug-crazed brother and sister-in-law is an interesting conflict. And Mary was a real ball-buster in business. And then there's the coming back as a ghost and kicking Pia Zadora's ass. I'd pay to watch that.
Mary was a very shrewd business woman who became Hollywood royalty. Many credit her with inventing `Movie acting`. She understood and made use of the camera's ability to pick up on subtle gestures, hesitations and eye movements.
She and Douglas Fairbanks were Hollywood`s first `power couple'. They built Pickfair but she outgrew her 'sweet little girl' roles and began drinking heavily. Both she and Fairbanks had affairs and split up. Her alcoholism increased and she would constantly call her second husband (Buddy Rogers), "Doug" (Douglas).
They adopted two children and Mary was by all accounts a cold and critical mother. She thought her old films were awful and embarrassing and ordered the prints destroyed on her death (they weren't.
[quote]It says in the linked article that Dominick Fairbanks is one of the producers. Is he a great-grandson or relation?
Yup. Great Grandson.
[quote]I don't think there's really much drama in Mary's life, in spite of her great fame. There was just never any any conflict or tension, unless they've unearthed some secrets the public never knew.
She was the first big star AND the first 'has-been'
[quote]Who will play daughter-in-law Joan Crawford?
Stepdaughter-in-law. Mary Pickford was the stepmother of Douglas Fairbanks, Jr., not the mother.
Jill Clayburgh was my favorite actress. Whenever I see Lily Rabe, I stop breathing for just a second.
Douglas Fairbanks Jr was the son of Fairbanks and his first wife, not Mary, so he's no direct relation of hers.
Pickford had plenty of drama in he life - her relationship with first hubby Owen Moore, the scandal of her secret affair and then marriage with Fairbanks, and then the scandal of the end of that relationship and her "prince consort" hubby, the gay Buddy Rogers - all that in addition to her business smarts and acting career - and co-founding United Artists.
She was in her late 40s when she adopted the kids - and was a horrible mother. That's yet another aspect of the tale. She should really have an HBO mini-series.
[quote]Lily Rabe Lily Rabes
Is this like Lisa Lisas or Boutros Boutroses?
[quote] the gay Buddy Rogers
Was he gay? I know he gave the touching man on man kiss in wings, but I never heard that he was gay. (He was certainly gorgeous in "My best girl")
"Many credit her with inventing 'Movie acting'."
That's news to me.
^The old bitch called that one correctly.
Mary Hartman, Mary Hartmans!
Reporter: "Miss Davis, your co-star Miss Gish is getting early raves for her work with you in THE WHALES of AUGUST. They say her close-ups are especially wonderful."
Bette Davis: "They'd OUGHTA be, she INVENTED 'em!"
Griffith hired Pickford in 1909. He hired Gish in 1912.
r7, I wasn't referring to her looks so much as her manly manner (although r9 is right that she is tall and husky).
Camryn Manheim for Mary Pickford!
r32, don't forget Gish's revenge in the press--keep in mind Davis had had a horrible stroke in later years that had kept her face partially paralyzes:
REPORTER: "Miss Gish, is it true Bette Davis was very difficult for the rest of the cast to work with on the set of 'The Whales of August'?"
LILLIAN GISH: (sweetly) "Did you see that face? What a tragic face!"
The book on which this picture is being based is a good one, so I have high hopes for it.
Pickford's life is fascinating. The term "Superstar" could have been invented for her. When she and Fairbanks toured Europe after their marriage, her public appearances caused literal riots. The thing is, there was no template for her stardom. She was the first to attain that degree of fame.
She worked with David Belasco, D.W. Griffith, and then went on to hold more power in Hollywood than any other woman, either before or since.
Although she is remembered today only for playing children, Pickford did that less than most would assume. She came to hate the little girl, and tried, with varying degrees of success, to break that mold. She often played adolescents who matured to young adulthood in the course of a film, entirely appropriate to her age at the time, and a couple of times did dual roles, where she could give the audiences what they expected of her, and play another, more mature, role
OK, I'm starting to ramble now, but I hope the film turns out to be a good one. Pickford's legacy deserves it.
I don't know R10, I'm 20 and I'm interested.
[quote]She was the first big star AND the first 'has-been'
Well, you got the last part right.
I know she made some talkies and even won the second Best Actress Oscar for, I assume, a talkie.
But are her talkies ever shown on TCM or anywhere? On DVDs? Was she considered a good actress in talkies?
What were her best films?
Didn't she have kind of a lisp?
so many questions
LOL at r39.
r29, Pickford was well-established, and, arguably, the most popular actress in movies, when SHE introduced Gish (a childhood friend) to D.W. Griffith.
There is definitely a story to tell. It doesn't always have to be drugs/murder/sex.
Wasn't Theda Bara as much or more of a sensation than Mary and Lillian? If only for a few short years in the Teens.
She was certainly the first film sex symbol.
I guess when you credit her with being the first "anything" you have to use the word 'arguably'.
She won the 1929 Oscar for 'Coquette'. She plays a teenage southern belle (she was in her mid-to-late 30s and not much of a southern accent). It was a forgettable film but the oscar had more to do with her status than the actual performance. TCM has played it on occasion.
She eventually lost all contact with her children. Her daughter ran off with boy Mary didn't approve of. The son became a petty criminal, drug addict and homeless person.
She left them each 50,000$ in her will but they claim to have received much less than that. The daughter died a few years ago and the son, apparently, has dropped out of sight.
'Wasn't Theda Bara as much or more of a sensation than Mary and Lillian?"
Hey, talk about a biopic! Theda Bara was actually a nice Jewish girl from the Midwest, and she was rather horrified to find herself becoming a world-famous "vamp". Someone could make a helluva comedy out of her story.
And I was the ORIGINAL Biograph Girl!
Maybe so, but I got the musical called "The Biograph Girl," bitch.
Theda Bara went to my high school.
The feisty, very capable tomboyish character--which Pickford first developed for movies--is still the model for many major female film stars: Betty Grable, Doris Day, and Julia Roberts all played variants of character Pickford popularized.
R49 You knew Theda Bara in high school?
You may now claim your Miss Elderest Gay of Them All sash.
Who's the writer? Anita Loos? I've been reading a lot of her work and a bio of her - she was quite a character and should probably have a biopic of her own.
r52, The writer is Frances Marion, with whom Mary Pickford had a close personal and professional relationship.
Who will be cast as Buddy Rogers? Doug Fairbanks Sr.? Doug Fairbanks Jr.?
That's a lot of beautiful men.
The only male cast member announced so far is Michael Pitt as Owen Moore, her first husband. There's also someone playing younger Mary, so presumably the focus is on her middle years and not her rise to stardom.
No one under the age of 75 will give a shit.
[quote]No one under the age of 75 will give a shit.
Just like no one under the age of 180 gave a shit about Lincoln, and no one under the age of 440 gave a shit about 'Shakespeare in Love'.
Uh r57, I, too, love Mary Pickford but I'm not sure that her fame is quite comparable to Abraham Lincoln and William Shakespeare.
You'd think no one under 75 would've given a toss about Howard Hughes, yet "The Aviator" went on to perform well at the box office, even scoring a few Oscar nominations along the way.
On the flip side, who even bothered to see "Amelia"? Attach some good, likeable, quality names to the Pickford biopic and it can be a success.
Most of the audiences at The Aviator saw it for Scorsese, DiCaprio and Blanchett, not out of curiosity about Howard Hughes.
For the Pickford film to find an audience, it will actually have to be very, very good.
This film has been in development for years. It was meant to be an HBO mini-series, now it's a feature. Unless they're going to make Mary a vampire, they'd be better off going back to the mini-series. Lily Rabe and Julia Stiles aren'r exactly going to pack the aisles with this one.
Mary wanted to make a movie of her life and
she wanted to play her mother, Charlotte
Pickford. Mary wanted Shirley Temple to play
her, but Shirley declined. So the film was
Off topic but Lily Rabe has signed on for season three of American Horror Story.
If the script and the story and direction is good, it could become an interesting film, however there are several Pickford films coming out this year and next. Biopics are tricky material and hard to pull off in general. One of the other scripts that I read about sounds very interesting and seems like it would appeal to the masses, young and old today. Unfortunately, I have a feeling that this Lily Rabe movie will just be mediocre, perhaps a bit melodramatic. I believe the actors will be good, but we all can sense when the actors are good and maybe even the cinematography, but the direction and story fall flat. I don't have high hopes for the execution of this film, not to be mean. Lily Rabe is great, but Mary Pickford had a completely different energy and if I'm honest, as good of an actress that Lily Rabe is---she may be a bit course for the role.Mary was shrewd, but not in a course way and I've seen Lily Rabe play vulnerable and it comes across as a bit aggressive. Mary was also aggressive, but again--in a completely different way. In all of her glory and horror and innovation, Mary Pickford was an arrogant, narcissistic, delicate and hopelessly innocent creature. She was not an easy gal to figure out and to understand her life would really require the writer, director and actors to be able to read between the lines of all of the evidence that she left behind.
[quote] she may be a bit course for the role.Mary was shrewd, but not in a course way