I'm not trying to be xenophobic with my post but I just find it very strange. My boyfriend is American and he had lamb for the first time at the age of 32. I have seen it in some supermarkets in the States but it's very expensive and usually imported from NZ or somewhere else. I really enjoy a good roast lamb and it's really as good as any beef steak.
I'm Greek-American and have noticed the same thing.
A similar issue: My father's second (American) wife had no idea what lentils were. She's a generic white person from Texas in her 40's.
Hasn't been integrated into the melting-pot of American cuisine yet. Most recipes made by households in the U.S. that have a meat component are based around beef, pork or chicken, regardless of ethnicity or national background of person. This is just my theory. I wouldn't eat lamb though for karmic reasons. Silly, I know.
I'm guessing that it has to do with the abundance of cattle here. We had a war between the cattle barons and the sheep farmers back in the Old West days. I never had lamb until I was in my thirties either and that was in an Indian restaurant (Rogan Josh, I think). It's okay but it has a slightly musky flavor.
I'd eat more lamb if were cheaper. Unfortunately it is really pricey and the cheaper cuts are incredibly fatty.
Funny you say that R1 because I never had lentils growing up either. It was black-eyed peas or red beans. I'm Southern and maybe it had to to do with what was just grown here.
The Midwest is beef country. That corn-fed, grain-fed crap beef is what they consider a great steak.
The South is chicken, ribs/pork, beef.
When you go into areas with large, minority populations (particularly Greek/Middle Eastern), then you'll find a lot of lamb.
Where do you live, OP?
Except for those whose parents came to America from Greece or India, most people I know didn't grow up eating lamb & they say that the flavor is too strong.
Before I stopped eating meat, I loved ground lamb patties made with lots of garlic & served with mint jelly. And lamb curry always smells good at Indian restaurants.
[quote]That corn-fed, grain-fed crap beef is what they consider a great steak.
I don't know about that. I was recently at a quasi-business dinner and the British and Australians said the beef was the best they'd ever had. They love eating steaks when they come here.
Maybe it has something to do with lambs being symbolic of childhood and innocence. We have lambs in nursery rhymes, as nursery decorations and stuffed animals. Most kids have been to petting zoos to see the baby lambs. They're too cute to eat.
We had lamb, with the obligatory mint jelly, as children and it was tender and delicious. However as I got older I felt it was bad karma to eat baby animals.
I'm with r11 -- no veal, no suckling pig, no lamb.
Well, R9, I imagine in the Brits' case, it had to have been tastier knowing the chances were low it was from a mad cow.
Because of the price, my family only eats lamb on special occasions. I find it odd that most other Americans never eat lamb, too, OP.
I don't eat leg of lamb because I HATE it. I liked lamb chops as a kid, but their way too expensive now.
Lamb is bad for you. High in saturated fat. And it tastes nasty. Just sayin....
I recently had some lamb from CO that was delicious. The chef came out and told us he buys it from a certain rancher there because it doesn't have that strong taste that some comment on.
70s TV ruined a generation from eating lamb. Two events:
- All of Walnut Grove succumbs to anthrax after eating tainted lamb on "Little House on the Prairie."
- Lizzie Borden was driven to murder after her evil father forced the family to eat spoiled mutton stew for breakfast. At least that was the implication in "The Legend of Lizzie Bordon" with Elizabeth Montgomery.
If Bewitched and the Ingalls weren't going to eat lamb, no way was I.
I like lamb too but it's expensive if I buy it from a local source--like I buy all my meat products.
Even the big market lamb is usually more expensive than most other meats.
As far as eating baby animals go, I would like to try mutton but I've never seen it for sale in the US. I've heard it's tougher and gamier but heard it can be delicious if slowly braised.
I adore lamb and goat.
I prefer both to beef.
I don't eat that much lamb because tends to be expensive, unless you're eating kabobs or sandwiches.
Because it tastes like a barn.
When I had fresh lamb (in Greece), I couldn't believe how good it was.
In the US, nobody raises lamb (chicken, beef mostly) or even a lot of pigs. So what we do have is expensive and doesn't taste very good.
Wild game tastes better (deer, quail, duck).
The cattle industry is HUGE and has a lot of power.
Because it tastes gamey, OP.
I just don't like it.
Making a shepherds pie for dinner.
R18, you forgot the Alfred Hitchcock show from the late 1950s where Barbara Bel Geddes kills her husband with a frozen leg of lamb.
Americans used to eat lamb is the answer, but sometime in the 1970s they stopped, chiefly due to the expense.
The real problem is that there was no good fast food that was lamb based (sorry, Olga's Kitchen....)
It doesn't taste good.
Because eating a cute fluffy baby lamb makes me feel baaa-aaaa-aaad!
Sheldon to Penny: The mean Indian lady was trying to make me eat meat that tasted like little balls of sweat.
When I was very young (mid-to-late 1970s), we ate lamb pretty regularly.
I lived with an aunt who came from a large Italian family and we had lamb chops at least once a week. Usually just broiled, but they were delicious. Most of my childhood friends had never eaten lamb at all.
As I grew up, the quality of the lamb available declined. It was greasy and definitely didn't taste as good. Of course, it got more expensive and I don't see as much in the stores now.
I still do a roast leg of lamb about once a year, but I miss those wonderful lamb chops I grew up on.
Then you never knew anyone who could prepare it, R29.
LOL R31. Actually it does have a "sweaty balls" flavor to it.
A Syrian guy I knew said the trick is to remove every speck of visible fat.
That's where the gamey flavor comes from.
Your Syrian is wrong. It depends on what the lamb is fed, at what age it is killed and whether or not it was castrated.
Visible fat is an old Syrian wives tal.
[quote]Actually it does have a "sweaty balls" flavor to it.
Oh, if only.
I hate lamb and have had it umpteen times in umpteen ways. There's the smell of old rancid socks being stewed, and then the nasty texture and off taste. Worst of all, one must make a point to be very careful not to reveal one's prejudice against lamb or well-meaning sorts will insist on preparing it for you in their own special ways, certain that the only reason you don't care for it is that you've never had it prepared properly.
Venison is another. And then there's pussy.
Because it tastes gamey.
My partner grew up in Massachussetts, both parents were Scottish, and he loves lamb and will order it when we eat out or cook it at home. Being born in Europe, I was used to eating lamb. On the other hand, I've met a good number of North Americans who won't eat eggplant.
Because eggplant is disgusting R39. The texture and taste makes me want to barf and don't you have to soak it or something?
Eggplant is like cilantro -- different (better or worse) to different people.
Not soak. Salt it to drain moisture
Lamb sucks. Pure and simple. I've had leg of lamb, it's greasy and gamey. Lamb chops nothing special, actually boring. Then it's served with mint jelly and then you want to hurl.
Give me a rare Kansas City strip anytime.
Plus it's pricey.
R7 I am from South Africa. We have lots of lamb here, as well as beef. I love a good steak but there's nothing like a roast rack of lamb, seasoned with rosemary, salt and pepper. It must also be cooked medium rare, just like a good steak. As for the gamey flavour, maybe the lamb in the US is different because I've never really noticed that. Most South Africans eat alot of lamb, especially bbq lamb chops. I think mutton is alot tougher and definitely has the gamey flavour about it, it also needs to be cooked for long on a low heat, ideal for curries.
I love lamb and order it in restaurants, but it's very expensive in markets, as many in this thread have written.
Kill an animal before it had much of a chance to have a life.... nice...
I can hear them screaming now...
R37 expresses well what I feel. I never had it much as a kid and just can't get myself to like the taste, texture or smell as an adult.
Meanwhile, I can't believe the "baby tastes" troll has not yet appeared in this thread. It loves to castigate anyone who does not love lamb for having "baby tastes."
That Sherry woman with the sock puppet really sealed it for us growing up in the sixties. "Lambchop" was the sock's name. It was a sweet act performed by an attractive blonde.
If you were to question Americans who grew up in the sixites I'll bet only 5% eat lamb.
Lamb is popular on the East Coast or in big cities. I fucking love it.
OP = Mary, having a little lamb.
I really like lamb. We only had it for special occasions when I was a kid.
As a lot of people have said, it's expensive so I normally don't buy it. I also live along and my favorite lamb dish is leg of lamb which is not practical when cooking for yourself.
I'll order it when eating out.
I make feta stuffed lamb patties and serve them in pita with a yogurt-dill sauce pretty often. I love lamb, but it can be expensive and I can only buy it frozen here in Kansas City.
My dad won't eat lamb because he grew up on a farm where sheep were raised. I'm honestly surprised he will eat any meat because his father (my grandfather) was a very overly emotional man and would cry like a baby when it was slaughtering time. He got very attached to his animals.
I love lamb stew. I was surprised to discover that, over here, you call it Irish stew. I also like that rack thing. My mother makes it for Easter.
I love a leg of lamb because you get lots of leftovers for sarnies the next day. Cold lamb with mustard or some mango chutney on some nice bread is lovely.
I don't think the lamb is as good over here as it is in Ireland, though, but I still love it. Damn, now I want lamb.
I like broiled lamb chops with honey mustard glaze. My local market carried it during the holidays but it was too expensive.
Comes down to custom and practice.
In the U.S., lamb and turkey - as opposed to beef, pork and chicken - are often - though not always - considered exclusive holiday dinner fare.
Conversely, turkey is a major coldcut in the U.S., whereas chicken is a very minor one.
My grandma used to make Farikal, a Norwegian stew type thing with cabbage (a lot like corned beef & cabbage except with lamb). Traditionally farikal is made with mutton but she always used lamb. It made the whole house stink.
Because its not sold at McDonald's.
I had Icelandic lamb recently and it was nothing like Aussie or NZ lamb (which is what you get here in the US). It was closer to veal in appearance and taste. A rack of lamb with a nice Cab or Zin is a perfect dinner in my book.
I love lamb, especially with mint jelly - Yum Yum Yum! However, it's expensive, and not that easy to find in supermarkets.
Because it's revolting, that's why.
I'm in my 50's, born and raised in Boston in the 60's. We had lamb regularly but a lot of my friends had never tried it. Most didn't like it when they had it at my house.
I live in California now. I cook it at home and order it when out but I notice that a lot of people don't. One issue is that at my local grocery stores (Von's, Albertson's, Ralph's) they don't carry fresh lamb. It comes in these vacuum sealed packets and after sitting in liquid inside those bags, the taste and texture are weird. There is a butcher shop that carries fresh lamb but it's an extra stop and I don't always make the effort.
Now, of course, I really want some and I'm trying to decide if I should run out to the butcher's or if we should eat out. Curse you, OP!
My mom never served it growing up so it was never inducted into my meal rotation as an adult. I have eaten it and liked it when I was a guest but I don't buy it myself.
Because lamb tastes like shit. the aftertaste is horible.
Here in Houston we have two places, Niko Niko's and Aladdin, close to one another on Montrose that serve Lamb Kebobs, and both are Heaven.
As is another place called Underbelly which sometimes features "Lamburger Helper" - amazing stuff.
I didn't have it as a child but boy I'm making up for it now.
Like R61, I live in CA now. I grew up in the UK and we ate lamb pretty often. It's weird to me that you can't find fresh lamb in the grocery store. It is delicious.
There is nothing better than real, well-spiced lamb shawarma. I haven't had it in ages. There used to be a place on Atlantic Ave in Brooklyn that had good shawarma, and one of the stores used to have it at the Atlantic Antic. I hear there is a place in Bay Ridge. I'll have to check it out.
I don't eat "exotic" meats like lamb, goat, duck, etc. It creeps me out to eat cute little animals. I only eat chicken, beef and seafood.
Lamb tastes gamey to me. Give me beef, pork or poultry.
I lived in Astoria for a couple of years and around the corner from my apt was a butcher who hung a lamb, stripped of its fur, the the window. I almost fainted.
Agree with those who won't eat baby animals. I mean, Mary had a little lamb, not sheered and he'd follow her everywhere.
And then there's Clarice, and the silence ...
I came from an Italian-American family. My mother -- God love her -- could bake award-winning cakes, cookies, pies, and bread. She did not like to cook, however. The lamb chops that she made were the most awful tasting food on earth -- well, maybe except for her pork chops. I often cut those dried out pieces of shoe leather that passed for a lamb chop into tiny bits and secretly fed them to the dog.
I have since had some exceptionally well prepared lamb in restaurants. But, I rarely see it on the menu, and I don't care to prepare it myself.
I'm half-Greek and grew up eating it. But I don't like other meats that taste gamy to me, including the dark meat of poultry.
Is she a great big fat lamb?
Why should anyone have to eat lamb, wackjob/OP?
MAAAAARRRY!, had a little lamb.
Good cuts of lamb are hard to find. Most supermarkets don't carry it and if they do, it is expensive or poor quality.
Growing up, my town had real butcher shops ...
Something stinks to hi...gh Holly!
I'm southern, a Texan in fact, and I guess it is legal to grow sheep here if you keep them fenced on your own property and keep them from destroying any free range. There is a restaurant in Illinois which has truck parking, and I had lamb there one time to see how it tastes. It was not very different than beef, certainly nothing about it to justify the cost. The Mexicans who have overrun Texas love barbequed goat, and you can buy it anywhere here, and it is very good. They call it "cabrito".
Americans are not among the most sophisticated cooks. Lamb is only expensive because Americans don't like it and farmers therefore don't invest in the production of lamb.
R77 Isn't cabrito goat?
Yes, R79, if you read what I wrote. It is young barbequed goat.
R77 Sorry! My fault for trying to read too fast.
Don't eat me, Lisa!
I prefer mussels.
Doctor! Doctor! The lambs are screaming again!! I could barely hear what was going on at the Golden Globes over there bah-ing. Did my speech go ok?
Maybe for the same bizarre reason that, apart from at Xmas, it is nearly impossible to buy Turkey here in NZ.
OP is a racist who hates Obama and pretends to be American on other threads.
I love lamb, but many times, I've found it's not prepared well, or it's not really what one would consider lamb, but more like game or mutton. There used to be an arab deli where I'd get really good ground lamb, but after a while, it just became too much bother to make a special trip there, and also I moved away.
r85, when I lived in NZ, I bought turkey mince for my cat. It was my impression that turkeys are raised in NZ chiefly for export. But I guess a few of them slip through for pet food.
That said, before I went vegetarian I couldn't eat lamb not just because it was nasty, but because my Kiwi neighbors had half a dozen lambs out in the season frolicking in the sun. There's no way something that cute ought to be eaten.
That, and my in laws (back in the states) eat it all the time, are horrendously bad cooks, and once served me a raw slab of lamb swimming in its own blood with mashed potatoes that were pink from the blood. Nasty.
Rack of lamb with mint jelly was a classic dished served in "elegant" American restaurants until probably the end of the 1960s. Rack of Lamb, Beef Wellington, Beef Stroganoff, Steak Diane, Cordon bleu...
Lamb has sort of a "Wild" taste to me, IMHO. I don't like it but I had a British BF who made me try his at The Outback (They serve Lamb). Nasty.
Nothing ruins good lamb faster than mint jelly.
Good lamb likes rosemary and garlic not that fucking jelly.
I prefer lamb to beef and like lamb as well as pork. Unfortunately for me, I have cancer, therefore I stick to vegetables at all times. I know I can eat small amounts of tissue protein but I figure, if one is going to be as alkaline as possible, there will be no meat or sugar for me.
When I was growing up in the 60s, my uncle and every other man who had been in the navy in WWII hated the smell of lamb being cooked. Apparently mutton was served on board ships very often and it didn't taste good and the smell lingered.
My mom had a Pekingese dog who went insane at the smell of lamb being cooked. He would bark nonstop. We'd threaten him with the newspaper -- he'd just run under the couch and continue barking.
The last time I had rack of lamb was a few years agi in a restaurant i really loved. It was supposedly rubbed with spices but there was barely any meat on the bone and what there wast tasted like saturated tree bark. I never went ack there.
Reza's in Chicago used to serve a terrific lamb chop.
I like the taste of lamb after it's prepared, but I find the smell of it cooking to be foul. I can't explain it, to be honest... how something that smells that bad while cooking can actually end up tasting fine, I don't know.
I wonder if the smell puts off other people, or if it's just a quirk of mine.
I really don't know why. When I was growing up in Middle America people ate beef, pork and chicken and that was about it. Lamb chop was a puppet on the Shari Lewis show.
Don't the British eat a lot of lamb because they raise so much wool there? Wasn't it lamb-based agriculture that forced all the farmers off their lamb and sent them to the cities to starve and get the plague and eventually form labor unions and get crushed by Thatcher, etc.?
It really is not that complicated. Different countries eat or don't eat certain things. Lamb is something that you would only find in speciality stores in the US.
No different than some countries eating horse or rabbit meat while others don't and think it is strange.
But lamb is so yummy! Can't wait till Easter. We'll have lamb roast.
If you google "dog barks smell lamb" you'll find that a lot of dogs freak out at the smell of lamb cooking.
Some people find the smell of lamb cooking to be unbearable. I have no problem with it, since we ate lamb a lot when I was growing up.
OP is an agent for the Lamb Council Board or some other such organiztion.
How could you eat a lamb? It tastes yucky, anyway.
...and R101 is from the baby tastes squad...Lamb is AWESOME
The answer lies in the US history books under the Cattle Wars.
lambs are so cute and cuddly, how could you EAT them?
monsters! the lot!
Oops, I meant google "dog barks lamb cooking."
Having seen this happen myself, I can only laugh at the lame-brained theories people offer about why this happens. "Maybe your rescue dog was in a fire when it was a puppy." "Maybe it's the heavy spices." "It's probably because of the attention it gets. Stop coddling your dog." "It's probably a pherome because the lamb was afraid when it was slaughtered."
Believe me, it's visceral. There's nothing psychological about it. Some people report their dogs get very upset at the smell of fertilizer.
Have you ever used blood meal in your garden? I use it in spring to keep the rabbits from eating my dwarf lilies. The first time I used it, there was this "explosion" from underneath my porch. It was a rabbit who'd been fast asleep, suddenly awakened by the smell. He bolted out of there.
Blood meal is a good rabbit repellent.
My uncle came over the house once when my mother was cooking lamb and he gagged when we opened the door and said, "I'll come back tomorrow!" He hated the smell of lamb cooking.
When I was a kid, Greek restaurants made gyro with lamb meat but when I got to be a teen, they switched over to beef and chicken. I guess it was the cost.,
Mutton is strong but lamb is good.
But lambs are full of scrapie and Americans don't want that shit over here. The Brits fucked up their sheep with scrapie, which is mad cow disease for sheep.
Clarice Starling: I went downstairs, outside. I crept up into the barn. I was so scared to look inside, but I had to.
Hannibal Lecter: And what did you see, Clarice? What did you see?
Clarice Starling: Lambs. The lambs were screaming.
I don't know about Americans but I grew up on a farm that was mostly sheep and I don't like the taste of lamb.
r102 is a shill for the lamb council of USA or some other industry driven group. Think Co-intell
I have a fairly high tolerance for pungent foods but even I have to admit cooking lamb at home isn't pleasant. I slow cooked lamb shanks a couple of weeks ago and the final result was delicious. The apartment though was rather gamey for a few hours after I opened up the shank packs.
I'm an American who loves lamb. I love it.
Because it tastes really nasty and we hate it.
lamb is nasty
Why don't Australians eat turkey?
r012, I don't have baby tastes, just don't have a taste for babies.
People who eat veal are just the absolute worst. if you're on a date and a person orders veal or lamb, excuse yourself to the restroom and don't EVER GO BACK!
I guess they don't have turkey farms in australia.
some people would eat the kidneys of albino children if it was on the menu.
Yesterday, I took my mother to church to have the family Easter basket blessed.
For those of you who are not of Eastern European ancestry, an Easter basket doesn't mean hollow chocolate bunnies, marshmallow peeps or jelly beans. In Slavic cultures, the Easter basket contains meat, cheese, butter, eggs, salt, horseradish-and-beet mixture, etc.
If you do a traditional Easter basket, the meats would include lamb, ham, bacon and sausage. Looking around at the various baskets in church hall, everyone had ham; most of the sausage was kielbassa (a garlicy smoked sausage), but I saw some breakfast sausage. I don't think I saw any bacon or lamb.
I didn't realize until fairly recently that lamb should be in the basket. My mother said her mother would include lamb, but her family lived in the country and kept livestock. She added that lamb is hard to find in local grocery stores and when it was available it was either of poor quality or too expensive. She that was too bad since she like lamb and would liked to have included it in her basket
Lambs have scrapie which is like Mad Cow Disease only in sheep.
Do you want to lose your mind? That's why them mideast peoples am nuts. They be eating sheeps.
Australians eat Bush Turkey, which looks like a turkey, sounds like a turkey, tastes like a turkey, but brother, it ain't a turkey.
Never ate lamb much before I lived in Asia. Now back in the US, we eat it quite a bit. We get ours from a rancher and it is really good.
A rack of lamb can cost around $60. Considering ham and turkey go on sale during Easter time, its a no brainier what people are going to buy.
About 15 years ago, I was integrated in the Indian-Arab community of my campus and was introduced to basmati rice. I introduced other people to it (it could only be bought at ethnic stores). Now it's part of the regular white/brown rice section. It takes time for ethnic foods to find their way in the Western mainstream markets, but with increasing globalization of cultures, it slowly happens.
R126. Are you Al Gore?
I was in my 20s the first time I had lamb on a trip to Greece. I dont think I have had it since then.
Another meat question. Does anyone know where you find duck? Many pricier restaurants offer duck dishes on their menu (ex. duck and scallops, Duck l'Orange, Peking duck). The meat dept in your typical grocery store doesn't carry duck, so I am curious as to where to source it.
We would have lamb chops from time to time but I find it more difficult to cook. Seems to get tough more easily than beef.
R129 -- is there is more upscale, pricier grocery near you? Otherwise, as at the meat dept of your mainstream supermarket, they'll likely know where to send you.
I grew up with Shari Lewis and Lambchops. How could I eat lamb after that?? Lambs are too adorable & cuddly & small to eat.
Greek (aka real) Easter is next Sunday, May 5th. It would be unthinkable to spend the day without roasting a leg of lamb or two and throwing a big party.
I'm Greek-American and grew up in the Bay Area. The hills used to be covered with sheep and goats. But at some point, we switched to a cattle economy. Now, all lamb is imported from NZ or AUS and is very expensive... unless you get it from a free-range/organic farm, and then it is even more expensive.
To me, US beef is grotesque, bland, and tough. I just don't eat red meat anymore. Madison Avenue has decided that Americans can't handle the sharp flavors of real food. When I visited Holland, the cow meat was Argentinian and grass-fed. It was wonderful. The US corn, cattle, and agribiz industry won't allow that here. That's probably why there's no lamb in America anymore.
[quote]In Slavic cultures, the Easter basket contains meat, cheese, butter, eggs, salt, horseradish-and-beet mixture, etc.
Slavs are backwards and disgusting. Eastern Europe is a hole.
R129. Asian markets have duck.
Lamb tastes like sweater!
Give me cow or pig.
I had roast lamb for Easter dinner. Yum.
For me it comes down to price. I only get it at the falafel place, and recently bought some at the store, but I'm not really into the great increase in price since I buy organic and local and meat is already pricy enough.
(Haven't read the thread. Maybe everyone else says the same thing)
We didn't have it often but leg of lamb wasn't an uncommon family dinner, usually for Easter or a Sunday supper.
I am Irish Catholic on my mother's side (several generations) and lamb is a common dish in Ireland (saw sheep all over the countryside, too).
I wish it was more available in the US and not so expensive. I really love it.
Simple. There is no powerful lamb meat lobby to come up with a snappy marketing strategy to get people to want lamb meat.
Beef. It's what's for dinner.
Pork. The other white meat.
I feel like chicken tonight, chicken tonight.
Lamb? Nothing but a little kid's nursery song.
I prefer shish-ka-bow-wow!
Did anyone see Stephen Colbert and that idiot pig farmer who brought those cute little piglets to the studio? I'm done with ham.
Lamb should be on sale now that Easter has passed.
So R1 have any of your Greek aunties had grits or black-eyed peas? Do you consider them as unsophisticated as your "white person" stepmom?
Because of the beef industry lobby.
Lambs won't eat corn.
Jesus spoke of himself as the "lamb of God" so it figures you 'mos would hate lamb.
I love lamb and venison. I think venison is the only honest meat because you have to work to get it. Not so much with lamb, but I love it too much to have scruples.
Lamb is buck nasty.
I'm from Massachusetts too, and in my late 40s, my dad is of Scottish background, and my mom is Irish and Czech. We had lamb regularly, and although I hated the smell while cooking, I really enjoy it. When I worked at an Italian restaurant, there was a boneless marinated leg of lamb on the menu, served in slices like a London Broil. It was the best thing on the menu, not muttony at all, and incredibly tender.
I always liked lamb, I kind of like the gaminess. However the last few times I had it in a restaurant, it had absolutely no taste.
We'll be getting more in the future. There's a destructive European weed called spotted knapweed invading the cattle ranges that cattle won't eat but sheep will.
We had lamb all the time. 100% Irish background, if that means anything.
grilled lamb is DELISH
Lamb is bad for you. Very fatty.
lamb is nasty
I love Lebanese food
I thought there were more lamb in Montana than people.
All we get is New Zealand lamb which is OK but sure American lamb would be better.
Because they don't know how to cook it properly.
Much that is sold as lamb is really mutton.
Do people fry it?
Lamb chops are one of my favorites! My partner and I eat local lamb all the time here in New Mexico.
[quote]I liked lamb chops as a kid, but their way too expensive now
Same here, and several others have noted this as well. It seemed to get expensive about 15 years ago. Not sure why. Was there some restrictions put on imports or something?
My grandmother made the most exquisite Greek of lamb. She was Swedish, my grandfather was Greek.
It was a very rare occasion for her to do it, but always special and delicious. I made it for a dinner party I threw last year and everyone loved it. But the price of a leg of lamb? I nearly had to sell a kidney to afford it.
Sorry, that was supposed to be "Greek Leg of Lamb."
OP, my mother was a very good cook and she served lamb periodically at home. It always tasted odd to me and my brother refused to eat it. If you knew my brother, you'd know it had nothing to do with a love for furry creatures.
My mom made slow roasted lamb chops- fattier cuts- and dredge them in flour, fry them till just browned- and finished them in the oven. Heaven.
It's probably cheaper to graze cattle than lambs.Bottom line in the US is, "what's the cheapest thing I can do? What's the lowest price I can pay?"
Because calves and piglets may be cute, but lambs are outrageously adorable. I used to eat lamb till I actually met a lamb. Never touched another lamb chop.
Ya gotta eat.
lamb I love - when prepared correctly, I believe that too many north americans just simply can't prepare it well.
If you have to bake it smothered in garlic and serve it with mint jelly, logic would suggest it's not worth eating to begin with.
My mother made leg of lamb for special occasions when I was growing up. I don't eat it now because baby lambs are so cute they way they gambol about. Can't eat them.
It is very high in saturated fat.
"THERE WAS NO BEEF OR LAMB!"
I can't eat lamb. I just can't. I had someone cook lamb chops for me once and I nibbled at it to be polite, but the taste was terrible and the thought of it was worse.
after I saved poor Catherine the lambs stopped screaming
I don't get the logic of not eating lamb because it's too cute.
Cow = not cute enough. Eat.
Fish = scaly and low on the cuteness scale. Eat.
Lobster and crab = look like giant insects; not cute. Eat.
Shrimp = eat poop at bottom of ocean floor; not cute. Eat.
Turkey. Chicken. Pig. Not cute. Not cute. Not cute. Eat. Eat. Eat.
God made me a carnivore. Eat I'm hungry enough and it won't kill me, I'll probably eat it.
Unless it's human meat (because that's just gross).
Americans don't eat lamb because they can't afford it. Their white trash parents weaned them directly from the breast on to a bland and constant diet of McDonalds, Burger King, and straight sugar.
In short, they don't eat lamb because they don't know any better. This, incidentally, can be applied to nearly everything puzzling about Americans.
Americans just don't know any better.
I won't eat lamb because I always think of Bambi and I feel sooo guilty. I still have a LOT of baggage from childhood!
Funny people keep going on about lamb as being something Greeks know all about because lamb isn't that common/popular in Greece either. Yes, you will find it here and there - and at Easter, of course, which actually underlines the fact that it's not an "everyday" food. But, it's not as common as pork, beef or chicken in Greece (or Cyprus) by any means.
Lamb isn't that tasty, anyway. Very greasy.
R186 Bambi was venison, not lamb.
R40 - ditto. Aubergine is foul. My husband makes a mean moussaka with minced lamb but I always have to leave the sliced aubergine - it's like slime.
Lamb is expensive here. The beef industry (and the corn that feeds it) is government subsidized to hell and back so it's much cheaper than lamb. And that defies logic but there you have the U.S. food industry.
Raspberry vinegar + garlic + rosemary + olive oil. Anoint well-trimmed loin lamb chops with this mixture,let stand one hour,salt and pepper to taste, then broil or grill to medium. Truly one of the foods of the gods. I believe many people hate lamb because they've never had it prepared properly. So many are subjected to leg of lamb, which IS stronger flavored, due to it's increased muscle activity, as opposed to rib or loin chops. Also, there's a sac(referred to as the "kernel") in the leg that contains all sorts of bitter flavors, which bursts as the leg cooks, permeating the flesh with that "high taste" so many find objectionable. A butcher can easily remove this. Have him bone and butterfly the leg to make it easier to carve once it's cooked. Lamb is quite expensive as noted upthread, it behooves you to prepare it correctly, so you get your money's worth. Decadent dinner of the decade? Lobster salad, lamb chops, orange/chocolate mousse. You'll thank me.
Why can't some people accept that people have different likes and dislikes?
Just because you love lamb, doesn't mean that everyone else has to find it delicious as well. Is there no food in this world that you don't personally care for?
The lambs with the most adorable eyes are always the most delicious.
I live in Ireland, we have lamb at least once a fortnight and I think it is delicious. I found out on another forum that the majority of Americans don't eat lamb and of course I googled it and found this conversation. then I saw some comments relating to the karma of eating baby animals and people were mentioning suckling pig, veil and lamb. I don't think that many people know that all of the chicken sold in supermarkets is killed between the ages of six weeks old and eight weeks old and it is probably the most widely eaten meat in the world. So many people don't realize that they are in fact eating baby chickens.
I get wonderful Australian lamb and New Zealand lamb (NZ is my favorite) at Costco. You can buy an entire lamb for under 4.00 a pound. Lamb chops are cheaper than most of the fish available at Costco. Wonderful boned legs of lamb go for about 5.00 a pound and the chops, which are beautiful, run about 7.00 a pound. Hell, at Whole Foods, ground beef costs nearly as much.
Scrapie is like mad cow disease, but much more widespread.
Thank you for the tip R195 - I don't know why I hadn't thought of looking for lamb at Costco.
In the 1800s there was actually a huge conflict between the ranchers and those who raised lamb in the West. It wasn't possible to graze them in the same area because of the way the sheep stripped the grass. The cattle ranchers ended up winning the battle and that's why there isn't much lamb eaten in the States, because people haven't generally grown up eating it.
I think the lamb that was available until pretty recently was gamey tasting but with the introduction of New Zealand lamb and Colorado raised lamb, the gaminess has gone away.
My mother was Italian and grew up eating lamb, as did I, so I always order it when I see it on the menu, but honestly, I only make a rack of lamb a couple of times a year. It's expensive and you need a lot of it to feed even two people. My guess is that it's one of those foods that used to be dirt cheap but now is popular with the wealthier foodie types. I know this was true with veal when I was younger.
The truth is most "liberals" don't give a SHIT about the humane slaughter of animals.
I've already given up on the conservatives.
Because lamb doesn't transition into a burger very well, or cook well in that format.
Love the taste of lamb, but it's just too high in cholesterol. I can hear my arteries slamming shut whenever I eat it.
Grew up eating lamb.
Mother used to fix leg of lamb for Sunday dinner on a regular basis.
Chances are if your "lamb" is tasting gamey - it's not lamp it's mutton.
Yuck, I can't stand lamb and we ate it all the time growing up. Of course, my mother is (and was) a terrible cook....
I love lamb. But OP is right. It's not pushed enough in the flyover states, I guess. I love minced lamb, roast lamb, rack of lamb, shoulder chops, pounded baby center chops. Mixed chopped lamb and veal makes a fabulous meatloaf. (I add yogurt and cumin seeds to bind and flavor.) Lamb stew in a creamy sauce is also a favorite. Some people find it too tasty, I guess. It,s not subtle , but you can work with it.
The Depression killed America's taste for mutton and, by extension, lamb.
Both of my parents grew up with mutton as a staple (Midwest) and considered it to be the worst smell in the world.
Why do we eat lamb but not sheep?
Lambs are younger and cuter, r209, and therefore more tender and delicious. Same reason I'll eat a twink but not a bear.
There's a hot new Chinese franchise here in New York, Xi'an Famous Foods - they do lamb burgers, soups with lamb, basically they use lamb like McDonald's uses beef. And it's very affordable. The line is ALWAYS out the door, particularly in nice weather.
I stopped by the other day on my way to work - oo, it was good - I will say that it wasn't really better than Chinatown's better places, but of course, Chinatown is downtown, not Midtown.
So anyway, if you want to try lamb done right, that is a suggestion.
I am not a fan of lamb but lamb burgers can be delicious
R194, I don't think we're bothered by eating 6-8 week old chickens. We eat a shitload of eggs here in the US and I'm pretty sure we know what they are.
Because it tastes like lamb.
It seems to be an acquired taste judging by the responses. So many people saying they just don't like it - but none of them (or very few) are from people who grew up eating it.
This is just a guess but it seems that if it is part of your culture and heritage and you have had it all your life the majority of these people don't just like it they love it and often prefer it to other meat. It is only those that come to it later in life that seems to create a higher percentage of people who reject it.
r178 Mint jelly? That's for the UNinitiated. The mint thing is a holdover from the old days, when lamb was usually only available in the Spring. One of the few green things available at that time of year was mint, so it was a natural go-with, and helped to mask the "high flavor" of lamb, or, mutton dressed as lamb(more often than not)
My grandmother was a terrific cook, and she used to make a baked lamb shoulder chop(unavailable, as far as I've been unable to find them) dish. Layers of thick-sliced potatoes and the thin chops, brushed with red wine vinegar and olive oil, salt,black pepper, and bay leaves tucked here and there. Bake foil-covered, then remove foil to allow to crisp up and concentrate the juices. Yum-MEE!
My father used to cook lamb chops for the family when I was a kid and I still love them to this day - usually have them once a week.
Lamb is for fairies.
I read the meals if mutton during ww1 and 2 turned off millions of Americans to anything related to sheep.
b/c it tastes terrible
rabbit also tastes terrible
Americans are very conservative especially in the south. They eat the same thing over and over again: fried chicken, corn, meatloaf, mashed potatoes, beans and beansand again beans. Met people who never had avocadoes, never bought garlic and so much more.
The South is much more adventurous than the middle where they eat a bland and boring diet.
Roadkill is not "adventurous", r223
Some of you guys need to seriously travel more. The South does indeed use garlic and avocados, jalapenos and we have Cajun and Creole. There is also a popular stew called Plantation stew which uses lamb and we love our spices. Christ....
Personally, the only lamb I really like is the Colorado lamb which seems to be missing that musky, gamey taste. I have an Indian place near me that has lamb chops that are too die for. Yes, shock, we have Indian food in Houston as well as a large Indian population.
I love lamb. Used to have it every Easter at Grandma's house.
Lamb tastes nasty
We had lamb chops all the time growing up (60s) and it must have been cheap or my mother would not have bought it.
r2, but eating a cow, pig or chicken won't give you bad karma? Is it because no one has compared Christ to them?
[quote]Roadkill is not "adventurous", [R
Roadkill is delicious!
I am hosting dinner on Easter Sunday. I will prepare a leg of lamb, a ham and kielbassa as the main course. Not everyone like leg of lamb, so there will be ham. My family is Eastern European, so kielbassa is a must.
Any recommendations for a wine that goes well with both leg of lamb and ham?
What if one of your guests is vegetarian, r231?
I cannot stand the taste of lamb. Won't eat it.
It's very common in my country to eat lamb during Easter. It's Easter soon and that means more yummy lamb. I can't wait. I love lamb. It tastes really good imo.
Lamb smells disgusting.
[quote]Americans are very conservative especially in the south. They eat the same thing over and over again: fried chicken, corn, meatloaf, mashed potatoes, beans and beansand again beans. Met people who never had avocadoes, never bought garlic and so much more.
^ Retard alert!
[quote]I don't think that many people know that all of the chicken sold in supermarkets is killed between the ages of six weeks old and eight weeks old and it is probably the most widely eaten meat in the world. So many people don't realize that they are in fact eating baby chickens.
Oh, boo hoo hoo. It makes no difference. Stop equating animals with humans. Bambi lovers are stupid. The ones who eat meat are hypocritical.
[quote] Any recommendations for a wine that goes well with both leg of lamb and ham?
Any wine that tastes good.
The red and white commandments don't exist anymore. Just serve a wine that you like.
I am also serving scalloped potatoes, cheese-garlic mashed potatoes possibly couscous for the starch; I will probably bake a few potatoes. For the vegetable course, I will make a spinach casserole, corn and a vegetable medley (broccoli, cauliflower, carrots, mushrooms, etc) and i have a corn souffle recipe that I might try. For dessert, there will be fruit and nut rolls that I bought at church, chocolate cake and pie.
In my family, vegetarians are like Republicans: nice people to be sure, but we don't know if we know any
In addition to the taste, which is vile, there's something about eating lamb that just seems gross to me. I don't eat red meat, either (health reasons), but do eat chicken, turkey, and white fish.
Everyone saying they won't eat lamb for ethical reasons I hope you are eating beef, chicken and pork from real free range pasture raised/ grass fed suppliers. Otherwise you are eating animals that have been tortured their whole lives and have so many antibiotics in them from feeding them food they can't process.
Watch any documentary on the subject and you will be horrified.
No one eats it because it tastes like crap.
taste too gamey. yuck!
Lamb is not good for you.
How about barbecue lamb?
Lamb is good for you.
That would be like eating a labradoodle!
Noooooooooo! Not the fury little Lilybear!
lamb is not good for you
It's a good question. Particularly since lamb is so fucking yummy. I think it's probably for sentimental reasons. The same reason I, for instance, don't eat rabbit.
Because it smells like death
Watch a lamb being born and then take its first steps. Then ask that question again.
I really like horse meat.
You don't eat NO MEAT??!! Ehhh,that's ok...I make lamb for you.
OP is a kiwi with a freezer full of unsold lamb!
I love lamb. Lamb chops on the charcoal grill, Leg of lamb, lamb sausage are all delicious.
What about sheep? Do people eat sheep???
Mary had a little lamb. She did, I remember it well. Anyway, it's fleece was as black as soot. Any everywhere that Mary went, it's sooty footy put!
Mary had a little lamb.
Her father shot it dead!
And now she takes her lamb to school,
between two loaves of bread!
Because it tastes like sweat.
Mary had a little sheep.
With it she used to go to sleep.
The sheep turned out to be a ram,
...and Mary had a little lamb.
Oh please stop me! I can't help myself.
I have like 50 more of these.
Isn't lamb really sheep? Or what's also called mutton? The young are probably less gamey. Ha I guess I answered my own question.
I like goat too especially the way Trinidadians prepare them. Goat roti nom nom.
One of Aristotle Onassis' favorite food was unborn lamb
Goat makes an excellent ham.
A friend made Mocetta with red beans....amazing soup.
I love lamb
Lamb chops with Rosemary, green beens and pumpkin/potato mash
Lamb = young sheep
Mutton = old sheep
Mutton is tougher and more gamey in flavor. Mutton is the poor man's lamb.
Don't forget hogget, which is middle-aged sheep!
I live in a farming community and eat mutton regularly. It's full of flavour if you cook it slowly.
Oh, the other thing about lamb is that it's a good meat product in otherwise inhospitable locations. So, in the UK, it's produced on hilly terrain in Wales and the north of England that isn't much cop for either beef or crops. Many UK environmentalists argue for it as a good use of land.
Can't eat lamb without mint jelly!!
R269, R270... these queens bitching about how disgusting lamb is do not know what they are missing out on. Roast lamb is delicious.
Nothing ruins lamb like mint jelly.
I roast a leg of lamb directly on the oven shelf (yes, it's a pain doing the dishes) and let the fat drip down on a tray of vegetables to baste and roast them. Wonderful meal, if not the healthiest.
Britain also has such a strong history in the wool trade, going back well over a thousand years. America doesn't. That, and America's vast land resources all wasted on environmentally-unfriendly beef, are probably the main reasons for the difference in consumption.
I don't like the taste. Too strong and pungent. Also, it is not a healthy food.
[quote]Also, it is not a healthy food.
Compared to what the majority of Americans eat, it is.
Koala bear stuffed with puppies is a Thanksgiving treat.
[quote]Koala bear stuffed with puppies is a Thanksgiving treat.
Or, as we call it at my house, Australian Passover.
It might be a red meat, but it's a lot healthier than most red meats because it's rarely produced with any hormones or additives. Lamb is a free range meat. I'd eat it over industrially produced beef or pork any day.
R274, why don't you purchase a baking pan that has a v-rack? That's what I have. Mine is high enough to put the vegetables in the bottom and it isn't too bad to clean up after I'm finished.
R280 What a cool toy! If I can find one available in the UK, I will buy one. Merci bien.
I tried lamb a few times and hated it.It tasted like dead sheep.
Exactly the reason why lamb tastes better than beef.
Indeed. Do Americans eat much in the way of venison? A farm near me farms red deer - also free range. It's less gamey than wild venison but it has fat/cholesterol levels comparable with white meats not red meats. Because deer are very susceptible to transport stress and the farmer believes pre-slaughter stress produces hormones that ruin the flavour of the meat, he qualified as a slaughterman and has an abattoir on the premises. The meat is wonderful - flavourful, healthy and not particularly expensive.
Funny you should say that r39. I am Australian and love roast lamb with mint jelly . We were served it at school and home and until this thread I pretty much assumed we all just ate it.
R284 well priced venison, please share the source. Horrific prices are all I can find.
R285 I am so sorry you never got proper lamb and had to eat it with that crap mint jelly.
Try it with a cracked green olive and garlic sauce.
I don't know, except for the price (loin lamb chops currently $11.99/lb. in my supermarket; add $$ for a Wegman's).
Love broiled lamb chops, roast rack of lamb, shoulder chops in a tagine, ground lamb in moussaka or as meatballs in cous-cous.
Haven't eaten beef since the UK's Mad Cow scare (can't give blood, either, because of time spent) and don't miss it.
[quote]That, and America's vast land resources all wasted on environmentally-unfriendly beef, are probably the main reasons for the difference in consumption.
Beef is not by definition environmentally unfriendly. It is the way it is mass produced that makes it not only environmentally unfriendly but also inhumane.
But it keeps the price down - which seems to be what matters to most people.
I understand this, R289. Perhaps I should have phrased it "America's land resources used to farm beef in environmentally-unfriendly ways". The point still stands: lamb production does not require factory farming and, as such, is inimical to America's food production culture. Additionally, it is a suitable use of otherwise difficult to cultivate land - important in the (small) UK and much less important in the (huge) US.
The fact remains that factory-produced meat is less healthy than free range meat. Factory chickens have similar fat levels to red meat, for instance.
Personally, I'd rather spend the same money and eat good meat several times a week and vegetarian several times, than eat crap meat daily. This is from every aspect - the flavour of the food, the healthiness of the food, supporting local businesses, etc etc etc.
R290 - yes you should have phrased it differently. Because the way you phrased it was wrong.
But you still don't seem to understand. Neither beef or lamp production requires factory farming.
As a matter of fact beef,like lamb, can be raised in a very environmentally friendly fashion that effectively turns plants which humans aren't able to digest into meat which humans can digest.
I also think if you do some research into lamb production in the UK you will find that a lot of lamb is not produced on difficult to cultivate land but in areas where the land could be cultivated. Sheep are suited to difficult to cultivate land - it isn't required. Therefore sheep farmers will use whatever land is available and keeps the cost down.
You also don't seem to understand agribusiness n the US or the UK. In both countries land is used in the most cost effective fashion. Regardless of how big a country is - whatever makes the most money is how the land is used.
R287 Thanks for that. Those are about half the prices of the US but they won't ship to NY. Too bad.
I think we disagree but are also getting away from the (well, my) original point. The question is why don't the majority of Americans eat lamb? People are saying "I don't like the taste". But I'm saying it's more likely to be a) because it doesn't have a 1,000-year history of sheep production like the UK does; b) its landbank isn't restricted in what meat it can produce like the UK's is; and c) American concentration on industrial methods of meat production isn't suited to sheep production.
What makes economic sense is a different question - right?
You're welcome. There must be similar small scale US producers, right?
R293 yes there are similar small scale producers and they charge a FORTUNE for the stuff. The same as 60 to 80 dollars per kilogram.
Sorry that should have said the same at 60 to 80 pounds per kilo.
If it's any consolation, you'd pay at least half as much again for the exact same meat at a quality butcher in London. The availability of affordable, high quality, locally-produced food is one of the reasons I got out of the city when I did. We have rockin' cheese, too!
I've gotten meat from this place before. The most melt in your chicken I've ever had. I even fried one because it was so good it reminded of my great grandmother's fried chicken. She'd go out to the coop and wring it's neck. It was that fresh. Great quality bacon too.
Forgot to add I'm ordering one of their turkeys for Thanksgiving this year.
Mint jelly ruins lamb. It's good with just garlic and oregano and other herbs. I actually found a lamb I like better than Australian. It's from Colorado and doesn't that musky taste that other lamb does.
How is it strange. People tend to eat what is produced in a country. Lamb production is not big in the us.
And it is not like lamb is eaten all of the world.
r146 Exactly. Why is it bad or a sign of unsophistication to not eat a particular meat?? I mean pumpkin isn't really popular outside of north America. But I would never say this is due to close mindedness.
Historically lamb wasn't really big. And don't blame industrial meat production, because this is a recent phenomenon. In the early 20th century and 19 century the US wasn't a major lamb country.
It is like a Marylander being shocked that someone in the interior of the US doesn't really eat seafood.
I only eat lamb when I am eating at a Mediterranean or middle eastern themed restaurant.
r284 Deer hunting is big in Pennsylvania so I imagine they eat a lot of it there.
I don't eat lamb. I am Christian so it is a sin to eat lamb since it was a part of Jesus. And that would just be disgusting
When I was a child in the U.S. my mother would make lamb chops for us every few weeks. Ugh. I can STILL smell that horrible stink 30 years later! The smell of cooked lamb chops does not entice.
Lamb is FULL of fat!
I've posted this before but here I go again. The cattle/sheep wars in the 1800's settled this dispute. Cattle won and is king.
And I loved that old commercial set to Aaron Copeland's Hoe-Down for the American Beef Council and narrated by sexy cowboy Sam Elliott.
Lamb meat has a really distinctive taste that Americans aren't really accustomed to. I like it though, because of my early exposure to indian food. Goat cheese, however, is one thing I've never been able to enjoy. It's just got a strong flavor that reminds me of stockyards or something.
Goat cheese is definitely very strong tasting but I like it paired with fruit. I have a recipe for pears stuffed with herbed goat cheese then wrapped in bacon and baked. Those were eaten up fast.
Thanks, R306. Something new to this European.
R301 the middle is now filled with sushi restaurants, I would not eat there but your assertion is no longer true.
You are welcome R309. This part of our history is often overlooked even here.
Because I don't feel right eating animals. Period. Especially babies treated horribly and cruelly.
I'll be awake all night pondering this enigma.
My stepfather and his sons hunt so I've had venison, wild boar and elk. If prepared right it's good. The wild boar is made into sausage mixed with regular pork. The best I had was at a high end restaurant who had venison in a blackberry glace. It was delicious and it's a very healthy meat choice.
"pumpkin isn't really popular outside of north America"
some people have no idea what they are talking about