Dataloungers can creep me out when they speak so reverentially of Queen Elizabeth II

It's as if some of you think she's Jesus or something, and as if you think she has some sort of godly ordained mission on this Earth. She's just an old lady who inherited a weirdly archaic title.

Shut yer cakehole, you sodding yank, or I'll slit yer face.
OP people like you are the reason why I'm pro choice, if only your mother had made a better choice!
OP are you a queen jealous of another?
anon
I adore her. God save the queen! The greatest monarch in England's history.
who are you to judge how another country conducts its affairs ? the Queen is head of state; David Cameron is head of government. You people in the US combine the two, which explains the gushing over Obama. You see, in this country, the United Kingdom--the Mother of the United States--no one, no matter how partisan, would "gush" over our Prime Minister. You people treat your President like the Queen. And you have too many guns. And horrible manners. And crass television.
Anonymous
We are NOT amused!
Betty Windsor
I"m with OP - and all monarchies are ludicrous in this day and age, really. I mean, grow up, brits! Kings and queens belong only in fairy tales.
[quote]You see, in this country, the United Kingdom--the Mother of the United States--no one, no matter how partisan, would "gush" over our Prime Minister. First of all: Mary! Second of all: How quickly you've forgotten Winston Churchill.
[quote]And crass television. And third: look who's talking, someone from the same nation that made a giant TV star out of Jade Goody.
physician%2C%20heal%20thyself
R7 I agree. This royal fascination is weird, especially in the 21st century.
and another thing, what effect do any of these monarchs have on world wide political events? Seriously - these are unelected, powerless and yet obscenely wealthy figureheads who are usually inbred and not very bright - jesus. It is amazing to me that anyone would vow fealty to these clowns.
I couldn't agree more OP, after all its not as if she is Princess Diana.
r12 was right - Diana had the distinction of having actually done something to earn her status as the People's Princess and the Queen of Hearts.
Royalty. Fucking hilarious concept.
While Americans only elect their leaders, Her Most Gracious Majesty rules by the will of God, having been given sovereignty to rule over her lands and subjects.
[quote]Her Most Gracious Majesty rules by the will of God, having been given sovereignty to rule over her lands and subjects. That's a F A N T A S Y. There is no God. But you know that--you're just trolling.
I think you might be confusing "God's will" with "God's grace" r15. Correct me if I'm wrong, but will would imply something that God wants done, sort of like Moses leading the Israelites out of Egypt, or Abraham nearly sacrificing Isaac or some such thing. Grace is more like permission. Elizabeth reigns by God's "permission" but is not necessarily something that he particularly wants. Sorry to be so free with all the religious allusions, but....
anonymous
r17, I think reference to something being by the grace of God would be synonymous with Him willing it to be so (although more flowery). Perhaps application of grace by mortals would be more permission than will.
GOD SAVE OUR QUEEN!
Calif.
R12 It's Diana, Princess of Wales. She was never titled Princess Diana. Only a daughter of a King or Prince can be called Princess "insert name". The same applies to Catherine, she is not Princess Catherine. I don't think people idolise the Queen, I think they revel in the pomp and ceremony of having royalty and a sense of history. The Queen has also done a splendid job of being a monarch. She obviously made mistakes raising her children and I think that was a consequence of the way things were done in those days. The Queen does not court publicity or seek out media attention, unlike politicians and celebrities. She carries on traditions that have been passed down through the centuries and people who are interested in history love to see the "show".
[quote]How quickly you've forgotten Winston Churchill. Special, indeed unique, case. Man of destiny, 'This was their finest hour.' Gush deserved.
[quote]We are NOT amused! Betty R6 - you know very well that it was Queen Victoria who said that. Not you.
I grew up in the city, where you multiply by PI But out here no one timeses or would even care to try This life seems to fit me, like my bosoms and my boobs My man thinks with the way we're living, I'll give birth to rubes Me and my coke...Isn't that a joke Me and my coke For what's good enough for other folk Ain't good enough for me and my COOOOOO---oak.
OP, Brits are the Orcs of the human race. They know no better. There's a reason the world mocks and ridicules Great Britain and their queen worshiping is just a small part of why.
Being inbred, it's a simple fact that the royal family are biological abominations. They're not even English anyway! They're Germans who changed their name in WWI.
I'm not a huge fan of the monarchy per se, OP, but I admire Queen Elizabeth for doing more in a day than most people half her age and for ruling with dignity and dedication for 60 years.
Some Brits worship The Queen the way some Americans worship their guns. One is more harmless than the other.
R13, yes, she called herself that- no one else. Have not noticed an over abundance of QE2 adoration on DL. Totally understand Brits and Commonwealth loving their queen. She is a symbol of continuity and long disassociated from the excesses of ruling monarchies. Not unlike a lot of the pomp people love about American Presidents- Hail to the Chief- all the Inaugural nonsense etc. Harmless ritual symbolizing stability and continuity.
charlie
In addition to being a symbol of continuity, she's also a tourist attraction, attracting huge amounts of tourists to London on a regular basis. Meanwhile OP, indicates the need for retroactive abortion.
It's serf DNA, which also makes the retread Bushes and Clintons possible.
[quote]Queen Elizabeth for doing more in a day than most people half her age It's not exactly back-breaking to go around cutting ribbons and shaking hands. Her staff does all the work to make it happen, she just shows up when told.
Yes, she does do the schmoozing extremely well. She should be good at it by now. In Alan Bennett's latest diary extracts in the LRB he admires the way she keeps going sparklingly at a huge arts reception while others are flagging. As against that, she takes huge holidays. I recall a droll little picture story last year which noted The Queen's use of a non-special train to London. It marked the end of her Christmas holiday, sometime in February.
Why do so many DLers act like the UK is the only constitutional monarchy in the world, instead of a quite common situation in long-standing states?
[quote]she's also a tourist attraction, attracting huge amounts of tourists to London on a regular basis. Is that why Paris is top European destination, above London? The same amount of people would go to London whether she was on the throne or not.
[quote]Why do so many DLers act like the UK is the only constitutional monarchy in the world, instead of a quite common situation in long-standing states? While you're correct when you note that the UK is not the only constitutional monarchy in the world, you're dead wrong when you assert that constitutional monarchies are 'quite common.'
The UK Royals are quite visible. One rarely sees the Dutch or Scandinavian royals on the US news. So the media is part of it.
OP, it's because that, mostly between the hours of 8a.m. and 3p.m. U.S. East Coast time, this site in infested with shit-stirring, psychotic and generally irritating Brits. Like the Canadians, they'll troll here pretending to me Americans (or sometimes French) and bitch and flame all things U.S.. Typically if you drop-in something about their tired queen, or Downton Abbey, they expose themselves because, like Brits, they just can't help themselves.
[quote]One rarely sees the Dutch or Scandinavian royals on the US news. Who the fuck even knows who they are. The Monaco monarchy are even more high profile than them and Monaco's about the size of Central Park.
What R24 said.
I'm with OP. As for the Queen and the monarchy, I don't have violent opinions one way or another. It's the intense devotions of some American gays that is so bizarre, as though trivia and slavish fascination marked some sad lowercase queen as a superior sort.
[quote]It's the intense devotions of some American gays that is so bizarre, Maybe it's America's Anglo roots. I was surprised when visiting America to hear The Queen referred to as just 'The Queen' on the American news. As though she's America's queen.
[quote]I think you might be confusing "God's will" with "God's grace" Do you mean God's Will & Grace?
Karen%20Walker
Are you kidding, R27? The British crown has murdered millions upon millions of people throughout the world; it dwarfs any American gun death statistics. That's why I say that gays who worship these blood-soaked Royal monsters are nothing but celebrity-worshipping whores who are no better than log-cabin republicans. It tells me a lot about a person's character when they admire a bunch of pampered, blood-drenched, hang/draw/quarter-practicing, cousin-fucking nepotists who serve absolutely no purpose on this world whatsoever - just because you queens are such brainwashed, celebrity lapdog whores, you have this weird compulsion to lick the boots of any famous person who wanders into your orbit, no matter how despicable that celebrity is. I have the same opinion of England's royal inbreds as I do of the Catholic church: a blood-saturated historical abomination without which mankind would be a hell of a lot better off.
My boyfriend hates her. HAAAATES her. Calls her an old cunt every chance he gets.
Enough. OP postulates a fallacious accusation and then sits on her streaks waiting for the fun. "Respect" isn't "worship" and, more to the point, rejection of assholes calling for people to be murdered isn't the same thing as abject devotion. The complainers about the British system - with Americans being the most cluelessly, ignorantly and viciously loud - are the ones who are potty here. And of course lower-class British are the second-worst nuts on the subject. Three generations of do-nothing whiners are hardly considered informed citizens. Just look at R43. Hey, Ass, compare the tally across the guilty and observe how Mao, Lenin, Stalin and Hitler compare. You're just a crank pissing down one leg, shitting down the other, and blaming the world for the fact that you stink.
R44 = David Furnish
Queen Elizabeth II is a useless old cunt. She's about as meaningful as Santa Claus or the Easter Bunny in that she makes some people feel good...but isn't it odd to worship a woman based SOLELY on who her parents were? I'll laugh and laugh and laugh when the British monarchy is disbanded.
Well, I would venture a wild guess that QE 2 is an infinitely more interesting subject of discussion than OP. She really has been there, done that, if anyone has!
It's just another soap thread, OP.
What r49 said