I know it's supposed to be Julia Roberts breakthrough, iconic performance. But I really don't get what she brought to the table that was THAT unique for the role.
Unlike Steel Magnolias, where I feel she WAS Shelby, any of the following could have done Pretty Women just as well, if not better:
Jamie Lee Curtis
There was really nothing that Roberts personally brought to the table that made it her movie.
Molly Ringwald turned down Pretty Woman.
There are any number of actresses who could have done it better - Jennifer Tilly, Sally Field, Shirley MacLaine, Oprah Winfrey. I mean, the list is endless.
I always thought she was typecast as the stupid, gauche whore.
OP, just out of curiosity, are you the same person who can't understand the appeal of All About Eve?
You bring nothing special to the table, OP. Why are you breathing? It offends us.
If you seriously think Valerie Bertinelli would have been as good in Pretty Woman as Julia Roberts, then there is no possibility of convincing you otherwise.
You're a lost cause.
That could've been a big comeback vehicle for Shelley Duvall.
Molly has said that she was never given an official offer to do the movie. Hers was one of many names considered.
Lisa Whelchel was the first choice. She turned it down so they settled on Julia.
Gary Marshall originally wanted Madonna for the role, when the movie was called 3000.
Madonna turned it down to make Dick Tracy and fuck Warren Beatty.
True story. Google it.
3000, the original title, is of course the amount of money Gere offers Roberts.
Ally Sheedy would have been an interesting Pretty Woman.
Speaking of Dick Tracy, isn't it funny how that movie is totally forgotten today? It was a big hit at the time and had a ton of merchandising tie-ins but now you never hear about it.
What interesting about the OP's list is that most of these actresses are monumentally more talented than Julia Roberts. So the list is sort of a no-brainer.
At any rate, I hated the movie just for launching that horse-mouthed, overexposed bitch into A-list stardom.
Lucy wanted to do it, but Gary Morton didn't want her working for someone else named Garry.
Mimi Kennedy turned it down first, then Lorna Patterson.
They would have had to have changed the title to "Bitch-Faced Woman."
Michelle Pfeiffer would have been the best for it.
Karen Bllack was being considered as well...but her lazy eye was needed for a TV movie of the week.
Shelley Hack, Sally Struthers and Sally Kellerman were all busy.
[quote] They would have had to have changed the title to "Bitch-Faced Woman."
I keep imagining Debi Mazar starring in that movie.
Bitch faced woman
Walking down the street
Bitch faced woman
Will kick you in the teeth
Bitch faced woman
Inhale her toxic queef...
I saw Pretty Woman on a date when it first came out. What did she have? She was a fresh face at the time, girl next door type, enthusiastic, comedic. Her character triumphs in the end and she was part of the fairytale.
I was being completely serious with my post.
And yes, I do think Bertinelli could have rocked the role. Julia was not convincing in that hooker outfit. She had the posture and strut of a man.
I was being facetious, R28.
That's not a pretty list, OP.
Molly Ringwald? She would've gummed up the screen.
How plump was Valerie in the early 90s?
That list is fucking hilarious, OP! Pam Dawber?! Oh, my sides! Seriously, W&W for you!
OP, you idiot. Don't you have better things to do with your time and life than think up such utterly stupid points of conversation?
Have you no life at all?
I think a woman of color should have been considered.
[quote] I think a woman of color should have been considered
Because a black woman had never played a prostitute before.....
I believe when the script was originally shopped around as 3000 it was supposed to star Kathy Moriarty and Sean Connery and was supposed to be much grittier.
I thought this was a serious thread until I saw you had Nancy McKeon on your list.
I hated Julia Roberts for years. Now that I see the crop of younger actresses I appreciate her. Watching Devil Wears Prada I kept imagining if Roberts had played the Hathaway role how much better it would have been. Roberts is incredibly limited but she's honest and like her or not in her early roles like PRETTY WOMAN, her honesty comes through.
Pam dawber ?really
I would have loved Jasmine Guy in this role... It would have been the campest movie ever.
[quote] Watching Devil Wears Prada I kept imagining if Roberts had played the Hathaway role how much better it would have been.
Except the actress needed to be younger than Meryl Streep - a generation or more. Julia is younger but in that role would have come off like a Jerri Blank.
Practically anyone would have been better in the role of Andie, however, than Anne Hathaway.
Maybe they should of got one of the cast of the golden girls
ugh! Roberts was a disaster in Steel Magnolias. Her big "drink your juice" scene is high camp because Roberts cannot act if she isn't doing her big horsy laugh. And don't get me started on that accent.
I dislike Julia, but she was THE movie star of the 1990s. She's like Tom Cruise. I hate them both (him more), but denying that they had It is just silly.
What about Pia Zadora?
Wasn't rikki lake pretty chunky back then..?
[quote]but she was THE movie star of the 1990s
[quote]Michelle Pfeiffer would have been the best for it.
I think Michelle is one of the most beautiful women in the world but she doesn't exactly give off warmth which is Julia's (only?) true talent as an actress.
Jennifer Lawrence would be a good choice if they redid Pretty Woman.
the obnoxious laugh, the big curly hair, the catapillar lip, the slumbering walk, were all new at the time. At least for a leading lady playing a hooker. She was not Kim B in LA Conf. Vivian was a plain jane hooker with a heart of gold. I think that was part of the appeal. Then she became the "it" girl cuz we had/have no imagination. That was the height of Julia's appeal. After that, her boobs, bitchyness, and that stupid fucking laugh did the work. She even tried that technique later in her career (don't remember the movie just the promos of her gawfawing) and it didn't hold up.
Actually, it wasn't Sandra that Julia started losing steam too... it was Cameron. That's why Julia made sure to make Cameron's life a living hell on the set of My Best Friend's Wedding.
Julia was a star long before Sandra.
True, R62, but when that spunky chick who drove the bus in "Speed" came onto the scene, the writing was pretty much on the wall for Julia that there was a new America's Sweetheart in town.
You are correct R63.
Sandra really didn't start becoming America's Sweetheart until the late 90's.
[quote]Sandra really didn't start becoming America's Sweetheart until the late 90's.
The media were already referring to her as the new America's Sweetheart when "While You Were Sleeping" came out, which was mid '90s.
Valerie Bertinelli as a hooker? You've got to be kidding. NOBODY would havbe bought that.
Cutesy Meg Ryan as a hooker? Nope, nobody would have believed that either.
Molly Ringwald and Ally Sheedy...neither one was good-looking enough.
Wholesome Pam Dawber as a hooker? No, it wouldn't have worked.
Robin Givens had no talent.
Ricki Lake? Richard Gere falls in love with Ricki Lake? HAHAHAHA!
Nancy McKeon? Plain, butch nancy McKeon as an irresistible hooker? Again: HAHAHAHA!
Julia had that "beat bitch" look down pat!
Jennifer Jason Leigh was also in the running.
Valerie Bertinelli could have done it. It would have been different, but she has the chops.
Molly Ringwald was gorgeous in her mid 20s.
Jennifer Jason Leigh would have been a perfect if they would have kept the original concept of the script.
No one could have saved PW. It is awful big H dreck, the adult theme of prostitution given the Disney princess treatment. I detest this movie with every fiber of my being in the name of all that is sex & desire & longing & lust.
Michelle Pfeiffer. She was offered it first. No one else on that list fits the bill. Michelle does.
[quote]denying that they had It is just silly
This statement reminded me of a reality series from about 10 years ago. I think it was on Bravo and followed the lives on several wanna-be actors as they tried to make it in the business. It was called "The It Factor" and the first edition was set in New York and the second in LA. After the second edition aired, it vanished and I've often wondered what happened to all of the aspiring actors on the show. (The only one I remember clearly has done pretty well for herself, though mostly on the reality show side of things: Lisa Raye, who is on "Single Ladies" on VH1.)
Anyone else remember this show?
R73 Wasn't Pfeiffer a little long in the tooth to play Vivian?
For the sequel, :Prettiest Woman," Cillian Murphy should star.
R75 - She is a lot older than Julia, but looks young.
THE most Gawd-awfullest movie ever!
[quote]THE most Gawd-awfullest movie ever!
That's your opinion, honey.
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Marisa Tomei would have done a good job.
It's Elisabeth Shue
On the topic of Nancy McKeon, I vaguely remember her playing a hooker in some 80s tv movie.
Charlotte Ross would have been fabulous in that role. She already had played a teen hooker on Days of our Lives.
I'd have gone with Molly Hagen off her performance in Dallas: The Early Years.
She's a phenomenal actress. Julia Roberts is a one-dimensional actress.
Charlotte was playing Eve at the time Pretty Woman was being filmed.
If they remade Pretty Woman today, I think Brittan Underwood has the sex-appeal and the talent to do a better job.
Lawrence isn't that pretty. She acts sexy but it's like Ke$ha: look closer and you realize there's nothing there. Underwood could go a month without a haircut or makeup, and two days without sleep, and still look sexy. Plus with the money you save in casting, you can surround her with an elite supporting cast.
The role required straight women to root for a street walker who polishes up beautiful enough for a life of polo, Cartier, and private jets. That's actually not easy to make likeable. Roberts did make Vivienne likeable, as obscenely stupid as the story was.
Jennifer Lawrence is prettier than Julia was at the same age.
John Travolta wouldhave sheken up the role.
Three thousand out of a hundred men would choose Brittany Underwood over Jennifer Lawrence. Brittany was up for Hanna Montana years ago, did a soap for a while, then a cable show, and has something coming up that IMDB hasn't figured out yet.
We're talking straight men here, not women or gay men, who place more value on fame or status.
Going back to the 1980s, the woman who played the girl who took Doogie Howser's virginity was as sexy as I've ever seen on a televiswion set.
Who is Brittany Underwood?
She would have beaten up all the snobby sales clerk ladies in the Rodeo Drive boutique and then fucked them.
R85: Whore, yes, and pretty, I suppose so, but about as mean and nasty as they come )I went to school with her--she once described herself as a "barracuda," with a self-satisfied smile). So glad her career hasn't gone where she would have thought--sometimes there's God, even if he takes His time.
As a friend of mine once said after we watched it, "She's sincere. I'll give her that."
Young Julia Roberts had that Bambi quality, like the scene where Bambi is learning to walk on ice. I'm not a huge fan, but she was good in this and Notting Hill--she does vulnerable well.
You also needed someone who was pretty in an unconventional way. Michelle Pfeiffer wouldn't have worked, because any guy in their right mind would want to keep her around, she was too pretty for the females in the audience to cheer for, and far too pretty to be a streetwalker for that matter.
I wsa talking about her acting ability. I think she owns a yoga studio now and still acts.
On OP's list the only one who could have done a better shop than Julia is Elisabeth Shue. She's pretty without being too pretty. She has decent comedic timing and is likable.
Michelle was too beautiful to play a Hollywood street walker. She could play a high class escort, but not Vivienne.
R97 just explained why Megan Fox and Jessica Alba have never been allowed to thrive.
R98 - I was asking a rhetorical question. Brittany is not that well known.
Melissa McCarthy for the remake!
OP, you left out Laura Dern and Jennifer Jason Leigh, both of whom were also considered.
I wasn't available, sorry.
Jennifer Jason Leigh would have been a great choice had they kept with the original darker theme.
Kathy Bates would have been pretty fucking awesome in Pretty Woman. It actually would have been a good movie with her in it.
This is hysterical! 3000 ended in original script with her being thrown out of car, with that amount tossed at her at curb.
Kissed Mimi Kennedy. Mercy High School. 1965.
Misery and Pretty Woman came out the same year, and Kathy was busy with other projects.
I was too busy.
Dee Hall claims she was offered the role, but she was pretty long in the tooth by then, even if you go by her real age (She was really born inn 1957, not 1947, but changed her age so she could work without the hassles of child labor laws).
Julia Roberts would have been seriously superior in Misery to Kathy Bates. Can you imagine her doing the iconic Julia Roberts laugh after hobbling James Caan?
Julia would do well in a remake of Misery now.
I was only four years old when the movie came out.
Julia Roberts was not well-known when she took the original role, so there's history.
How about Odette Annable?
Me! Me! ME!!!!!
It should have been made with Leonardo Dicaprio as a child prostitute. That really would have been a heartwarming story.
R116 - Julia was known in 1990. She had received praise for Mystic Pizza and Steel Magnolias. Pretty Woman made her A list, but she was not an unknown.
When I was in elementary school in the early 90s, several girls in my class considered "Pretty Woman" to be their favorite movie. As I got older, I found it increasingly disturbing that young girls actually idolized a prostitute.
The movie is one of the more disturbing Hollywood films on record. Like R120 mentioned, this bizarre romance film triggered some weird, "heart of gold" whore fantasy in young girls, in which they, as Cinderalla, get their partner's love shown to them by being purchased. It is a far stranger movie than anything David Lynch concocted.
I guess for Roberts' character, the debasing sex acts performed for fat, smelly, abusive men occurred off-camera. Just like Hollywood, then.
Best thing about this movie is the Roxette song 'It must have been love'
I've never understood the appeal of this woman. She ruined Ocean's 11, IMO. That shot of her galumphing down the stairs in high heels? A football player could have done it more gracefully.
Not a fan of hers but I think she's amazing in Pretty Woman.
She looked her best in this movie. Julia also played the role well.
It's my impression that straight guys think she's really something because of that gigantic mouth. The thought being that she could blow a baseball bat.
Was Pretty Woman made before or after Steel Magnolias?
She had charisma for days in this movie.
I thought Julia was thinner in Steel Magnolias.
She did look hot in that ball gown, though.
The problem is Julia simply isn't "a pretty woman" and should never have been cast in this film. They should have hired someone who is actually pretty...
Disney should remake it with one of their current fucked-up tween whore stars.
Make the Julia character about seventeen and the Gere character about seventy-five.
Whenever I hear about this movie, I always think of my friend's comment when it came out: "Pretty Woman my ass. She's a cocksucking whore!"
Could a film like this - about a cheap prostitute marrying a rich, handsome, sexy businessman - be made today? We live in much more cynical times. Who would believe that a rich guy would fall for a common whore? Maybe in a parody movie.
You would have to be pretty cynical to make this film in the first place, R136. A parody remake would be hilarious, but probably would expose too much of the sexism, stupidity and creepiness of the original for the comfort of Touchstone Pictures (aka Disney).
Lots of great movies about hookers from the 90s. I loved Whore.
Wasn't the original script quite dark and gritty before Disney got their hands on it and demanded a romantic comedy? If that's true, I'd love to read the original.
Theresa Russell was great in Whore.
I've just read the script for the original $3000. It's horrible, but at least it doesn't romanticise either prostitution or sociopathic, asset-stripping billionaires.
What it really romanticises is middle class American life and coupledom. Vivienne turns her back on prostitution and signs up for college. Gere turns his back on asset stripping, leaves that company to its grandpa founder and his grandson. We are meant to imagine them with an apple orchard somewhere after they marry, not in a penthouse.
Why not ask who else could have played Richard Gere's role?
Gere was perfecto in PW. World weary, hard outer shell, but looking to throw it all away in an instant for the right gal.
The original title was "Cheap Blowjobs." It didn't test so well.
Ellen Cleghorne's SNL character Queen Sheneequa summed it up best - "Cinderella of the 90's? She was a WHORE!".
[quote]Wild women do and they don't regret it.
The fuck is that supposed to mean?
Mystic Pizza is on HBO right now, and she's actually very good. She recycled the Mystic Pizza scene where she has dinner with the rich kid's parents to use again in the dinner scene in Pretty Woman, but other than that, she's very appealing.
Yes, Julia is appealing in her early roles.
I can't think of anyone better than Gere at the time for the role. A good question is who could play the role now?
Demi Moore could have pulled it off in the original. She had the same cute mix of sexy and vulnerable in About Last Night and St Elmo's Fire.
If I had to cast the remake, I hate to say this but my first choice would be Amanda Seyfried.