Chinatown bus driver scolds me (and other Whites) for not eating at a Chinese restaurant
I went to Boston yesterday to see Pippin and had a very pleasant Bolt Bus experience getting there in the morning.
My friend and I unfortunately booked seats with Lucky Star back to the city and it was a whole different experience. After some very rude customer service at the Lucky Star "customer service" kiosk our bus left on time at 6pm.
Around 7:30 we stopped for dinner. Normally these buses stop at a McDonald's or Burger King- although no great shakes, everyone knows what to expect at a McDonald's. Instead our driver takes us into a deserted shopping plaza and proceeds to drive to the end of the plaza. There are no fast food restaurants in sight. A grocery store (The Big Y) is in the center of the plaza and a cheap looking Chinese restaurant at the end of the plaza.
The driver tells us we have 10 minutes and puts a sign out in front the Chinese restaurant that reads "Welcome NYC travelers. Eat here." My friend and I, along with several other White passengers walked past the Chinese restaurant to the grocery store. The bus driver got mad and yelled- you boys! hey you boys! you eat here!! We said no, and he said better be only 10 minutes.
I've never had a bus driver try to enforce a certain restaurant on his/her passengers. We thought it was funny and weird. The worst part was all the people who did buy the Chinese takeout then had to eat it on the bus, and it smelled so badly that I felt nauseous. I bus full of McDonald's smell would be bad enough, but this was 10x worse.
Does anyone else have any bad/strange experience with the Chinatown buses? I've heard Fengshaw (?) is even worse than Lucky Star, but I don't think I'll ever take them. I guess I learned my lesson and should stick to Bolt.
Life is tough, but New Yorkers can rise above all of these critical life and death moments with style and nobility.
"I went to Boston yesterday to see Pippin"
There's your first mistake.
You're riding a bus, to Boston, to see Pippin?
As you must know by now, you get what you pay for.
Wasn't the first mistake taking the bus?
What could you do in a Chinese restaurant in 10 minutes in the first place?
Has happened to me but not in the US and he gets paid to bring customers. Complain to the company
Actually Pippin was great. Paulus really did a brilliant job, and it's sure to clean up at the Tonys this year.
I realize what I'm getting into taking the bus, but I've only taken Megabus and Bolt before. Bolt is the better of the two, but both are tolerable compared to the Chinatown experience.
R5- As big a deal as the driver made about us making it back from the grocery store in 10 minutes (which we all did) he waited an extra 10 minutes for the others to get through the Chinese restaurant line and wait for their takeout.
The restaurant must have been owned by a cousin or family friend. Why else attempt to force everyone to eat there?
First of all nothing would smell worse than McDonalds unless it was a full diaper.
Second he clearly got a kickback.
Obviously, since you have made a huge point that the 'victims" were white, you must be attempting to get the focus of the responses to be Chinese bashing. Too transparent.
[quote]since you have made a huge point that the 'victims" were white
Not just white - "White".
[quote]The restaurant must have been owned by a cousin or family friend. Why else attempt to force everyone to eat there?
It doesn't have to be family or friend. It just has to be a restaurant owner who gives the driver a percentage of what is spent by the passengers. Is that too difficult to figure?
What, you couldn't wait until March for Pippin to open on BROADWAY?
Yeah, stick with Bolt. Or do what I do on Lucky Star: pack some energy bars and a drink, and use the break to just stretch out for a few minutes. It's only 4.5 hours, not an eternity.
I got my tickets to Pippin before the transfer was announced R12. With Paulus' track record I could have assumed it would have transferred, but I didn't want to take the chance.
If I hadn't gone down to DC to Follies I would never have seen Bernadette in the red dress...It's not wise to miss these out-of-towns if at all possible.
Do you save a lot of money on the ticket price by going to see it in Boston instead of waiting until it gets to Broadway?
Is it cheaper to go from NYC to Boston on the bus instead of on the train?
omg - Follies was the GREATEST!
The train is much more expensive. Trains have a ton of empty seats as a result.
R15- I wasn't seeing it in Boston so that I wouldn't have to see it in New York. Of course I'll go back to see what changes have been made, etc. Plus it was pretty amazing and there was a lot to take in.
My ticket for the show was $25 and between Bolt and Lucky Star the buses were $33. So it is cheaper than a Broadway ticket.
You no rike the bus? Whaaaa? We stop get good food for you and you no rike?
I would have gotten broccoli in garlic sauce...yum.
Wow, thanks R21. Those safety violations are scary. I'll never take a Chinatown bus again!
I can see why you went to the grocery store. As soon as the guy said 10 minutes I would never imagine having enough time to eat anything besides McDonalds or some other fast food joint.
Don't be so cheap -- take the train!
If you live in New York, why would you go to Boston to see a show?
Greyhound did the same thing. I knew a family who ran a truckstop restaurant in Kansas where every single Greyhound stopped for decades. They had a separate buffet line and dining room just for the bus passengers, and the prices were almost double what they charged in the regular restaurant. They got seriously rich running that place.
I think Greyhound got a piece of the action, but they had to promise to provide service 24/7, and I know the drivers all ate free (in the regular restaurant).
It's not that far from Boston to NY. Did you really need to eat at all?
This is a fairly common practice on tour buses, but it seems unusual for a regular bus, especially when there are places available with more options for eating.
Am I on the AARP website?
Call ICE and the NTSB
What's the big deal? You took a bus that's probably Chinese owned and that probably primarily caters to taking Chinese people to/from Boston and it stopped at a Chinese Restaurant. Why are you surprised?
If one of the Mega or Bolt Buses had a handful of Chinese people on it who bitched that it stopped at McDonald's, saying it wasn't food they eat and it stinks up the bus, you'd be the type of person screaming that they should just shut up and get over it.
OP is a penny-pinching, racist eldergay.
I'm in my late 20s (which may qualify as eldergay for some of you), I'm not racist and am smart with my money. Living in New York you learn how to budget.
The main issue was the driver harshly scolding us for not eating at the Chinese buffet, and going so far as to tell us that we had to eat there. No one is going to tell me where to eat and spend my money.
If they are getting a cut from the buffet then so be it, but they can't force their passengers to eat there.
Sure there are some Asians on the Chinatown buses, but there are just as many Whites, Blacks and Latinos.
To all of you nasty queens who are berating the OP for taking the bus to Boston, and for traveling there to see PIPPIN in the first place: Will you just please fuck off? As others have pointed out, the price of bus fare from New York to Boston and back is a small fraction of the price of the same trip by train. And why the fuck does someone have to justify going to see the show in Boston even if he DID know it was coming to Broadway when he booked the ticket -- which, apparently, he didn't? You assholes should really stop thinking you know better than everyone else, because it's clear that the OPPOSITE is true.
Firt of all, maybe OP went to Boston because he knew someone in the cast.
The Chinese fare to Boston is maybe $35 RT or something. AMTRAK on a Saturday is much more ($60+ each way or something? anyone?) and not a time saving.
I've been taking discount buses to DC every weekend for 13 years. I started out with Chinese buses, and until a few years ago they made rest stops at regularly turnpike rest areas, partly to gas up in cheaper NJ/Delaware and also to let passengers go to the bathroom (they don't put TP in their bathrooms, or didn't used to.) For a long time their DC-end stops were, hands-down, the worst Chinese restaurants I've ever been to. Two were in Chinatown, one was on L Street. Food was nasty, so was the staff.
OP, I believe I've been on the same bus with the same driver! I've taken that bus to Boston often.
I remember being bewildered by it too. Who really wants to stop for a buffet meal on a four hour bus trip? Isn't the point to stretch your legs and get a drink or snack to take back to the bus?
I walked into the restaurant to see what it was and to use the bathroom. The owners looked irritated when I left. The driver didn't say anything.
In the olden days, if a Chinese man got aggressive, you could beat him with a stick and nothing would happen to you.
I too, would've resisted paying full price for a buffet I only had 10 minutes to eat.
OP have Ed Zachary disease. His face look Ed Zachary like his ass.
R33, I think you meant to say you were born in the late 1920s.
R34, how dare anyone make fun on the OP for complaining about cut-rate service when taking a cut-rate bus trip?
R40, they weren't making fun of the OP for complaining about cut-rate service, they were making fun of him for taking a bus to Boston at all, instead of the train. They also were making fun of him for traveling to Boston to see PIPPIN.
At any rate, complaining about cut-rate service in terms of the actual bus ride is one thing, and making a valid complaint about being coerced to eat at a particular restaurant during the rest stop is something else entirely. But I guess you're too stupid to understand why.
OP, you will not get sympathy on this website. For DLers, white people are always wrong and non-white people are always right. This is a free country. You can eat whereever you like and tell those that want to force you to eat somewhere to shove it.
R42 is right. White power! That's what we're getting close to around these parts anyway, right racist eldergays?
OP, NEVER take Lucky Star - always take FUNG WAH from NY-Boston and back. Same price (maybe cheaper), same schedule, and they always stop at a McDonald's somewhere in Connecticut. Plus, the NY stop is much more convenient....
None of that Chinese kickback nonsense.
Why don't Chinese people have cataracts?
Because they drive Lincolns!
R43, the eldergay shit needs to stop, you miserable little homophobe.
Fuckin' moron, the bus driver gets a percentage of customers he drives to each restaurant. It's kind of like a Dominos card.
I know this isn't the right thread, but couldn't find another one, but it involves Datalounge favorites:
* Rude, selfish parent
* Nasty, inconsiderate person
This happened in Singapore and hoping for the video and responses to viral globally as it has locally.
This inconsiderate mother (and her hen-pecked husband) brought her two children on a bus with one child sleeping in the stroller (pram). She doesn't want to wake up the child to hold her (as required by law) and fold up the pram and put it away, so instead she argues WHILE FILMING IT with the driver, who stays steady. You might want to turn down the volume as she is a screeching bitch. And that poor husband.
Clearly the OP has not been to Hawaii, Mexico, Costa Rica or China. They do this all over the world.
Bus drivers and hotel staff get some kind of kick back and it not illegal, just annoying.
I once asked the hotel concierge in Hawaii where the best luau was on the island. Next thing I knew, the charter bus pulls up to 10 other bussed in the middle of an industrial waste factory by the water. And the just started.
Something like this happened to me on a tour of England years ago. I think it was Globus. They took us to several little towns on the way to/from all the tourist destinations on the itinerary...like Stonehenge and Bath. No reason to stop in these little towns except to shop for junk and maybe grab a quick bite.
Anyway, the tour guide complained to our group that he hated the German tourists because they didn't "get" that they were supposed to spend money in these areas. They would bring their own food and it infuriated him.
I didn't understand one bit of OP's story.
OP, I'm Chinese, and I certainly wouldn't have been pleased about the pressure to eat at that dingy place. The kickback factor was obvious. But unlike you, I wouldn't have made it about race. As previous posters have pointed out, it's a common, if irritating, practice across the world.
How do you know it was the same driver r36?
The party is over for Chinatown buses as we once knew them. First they came for Fung Wah; then it was Ming An; now another was just axed.
The feds are on a roll, having continued their crusade last week by targeting Boston-based curbside operators Lucky Star, located at 59 Chrystie. As with its onetime rival, the US Department of Transportation handed down an “imminent hazard out-of-service order,” which equates to a death sentence.
Boston Globe, the news outlet that broke the story, reported that Lucky’s fleet was unlucky at staying alive. Buses allegedly broke down more than eighty times in the past year between Boston and New York; inspections also uncovered sixty-nine violations on six coaches, including faulty brakes, windshield and emergency exit defects, and rotted floors. And even though the carrier logged one crash in two years, it nevertheless averaged thirteen violations per bus over the past three years, ranking the highest among lines that transport passengers between the two cities.
With Fung Wah and Lucky Star out of the game, the only direct Chinatown-Boston service is now offered by Greyhound-Peter Pan newcomer Yo! Bus.
I've been in DC for 9 years and gave up on the Chinatown buses after 2 years. They are the cheapest but I decided my health and comfort were worth the extra $15 each trip. The final two straws were one trip where a chair was put in the aisle to squeeze in one more passenger. The 2nd was seeing a Buddhist monk getting soaked from DC to NY. He had the bad luck of picking the seat under a leak on a rainy day.
I go with the Jews now and yes, it's $50-60 round trip rather $35 but it's worth it.
If I were to take the bus, I would gladly eat kickback Chinese, than gawdawful Mcdonalds or whopper king.
[quote]The restaurant must have been owned by a cousin or family friend. Why else attempt to force everyone to eat there?
Ding! Ding! Ding!
Why don't you people just rent a car for a day trip?
Not me, R58. Spoke to a restaurant inspector once who said Chinese restaurants are the worst, by far. Disgustingly dirty.
A bus. Really? Was your private jet in the shop? I'd stay home next time.
Take the Limoliner--not as cheap as the discount buses but less than the Acela and far more pleasant.
You should have taken Bait Bus!
r9 finds the Chinese restaurant coercion a daffy, and informative experience in multi-culturalism!
Video of annoying Singaporean bus rider bitching about why she can't board the bus with her sleeping child in the stroller (pram) without folding the stroller. Bless the bus driver for not slapping the curry out of this ignorant, annoying bitch. If it were me, I certainly would have.
Scroll down 1/2 way for links to 3 videos.
And yes, I'm posting this again...my goal is for these videos to go viral globally to expose the stupidity of this woman.