- Yay for Buster.
- Thanks for starting a new thread, OP.
Kind of weird news about Buster - I mean that they only locked him up for a year. Have they been working on a long term deal? That's a guy that I wouldn't want getting pissed off about contract negotiations and I want to have him committed to my team for a long time.
The Braves and D-backs trade is the news today putting Justin Upton in the Atlanta outfield (and joining his brother). I guess that's a big deal, but I'm not convinced it makes the Braves for favorite in the East.
And in less bombastic news - Tony Plush (Nyjer Morgan) is going to be playing in Japan this year. Those who know the former Pirates, Nationals, Brewers player will know that MLB is losing one of the most ridiculous characters the game has had for the past several years.
- Hooray for a baseball thread, especially regarding the SF Giants. Am having withdrawals. Will miss my boyfriend, Mr. Brian Wilson next year. Hold me.
- Nationals are adding a fifth President to the President's Race. But who? Is it too soon for an Obama?
- I want to lick Buster Posey from head to toe.
- R4, I hope it's James Buchanan, America's gay president.
- I want to see more ass smacks not just in baseball but football and basketball as well. Let the pent up dam of ass smacking be burst asunder with a veritable flood of slaps to the ass for the slightest reason throughout the sports "world".
- Alex Rodriguez the biggest name in a new PED report that could grow into BALCO-like scandal
(Story at link)
- 2011 league MVP Ryan Braun is also connected to that Miami clinic - although so far they don't have a direct link to him receiving specific from the clinic.
Even the suspicion though has got to be enough to make many of the people that wanted to give him the benefit of the doubt with his previous failed test rethink their position.
Remember how he said that when he finally gets to tell his story everyone would understand how his positive test wasn't accurately representative of his PED use since he's clean? He was so adamant in a way that really seemed like he must have a story that would explain everything and clear his name. But now it's over a year later and he hasn't said anything more, so I'm wondering if he was just hoping people would forget about it.
- Curt Schilling says (tweets) he doesn't understand why anyone should be bothered by having gay players on their team.
He also has a story today about how he was encouraged to use PEDs to get back in the game with he was injured with the Red Sox. He won't get specific about who suggested it though.
- I know there have been fans of Big Time Timmy Jim (Lincecum) on the DL baseball threads before. Some of you will appreciate seeing his new haircut that this article claims has him looking like Joseph Gordon-Levitt.
His long hair always looked dirty to me, so I approve of the change. But the new clean cut do doesn't go with his weed-smoking image as much as the long locks did.
- Good for Hunter Pence, I remember when the Phillies got him in 2011 and helped the Phillies get the best record in baseball that year.
Of course they choked in the playoffs.
- Steve Buckley (the Boston Herald sportswriter who came out in 2011) ran a story about the current co-captain of the MIT baseball team, Sean Karson.
This is an ambitious kid - but that probably goes without saying for MIT students. The story is inspired by his coming out to his team, but baseball isn't the endeavor he'll be making a career in.
He's a chemistry major, but also is trying to grow his start-up dotcom company that sounds like a variation on 'Meet Up' for university students.
Although he isn't destined to be one of them, he expresses the same dismay that many of us have - the lack of publicly out pros in any of the major U.S. sport leagues.
- Apparently in Mike Piazza's new book he takes the Oprah approach to address why rumors about his sexuality bother him.
He says what bothers him about the gossip isn't that he'd be perceived as gay, but that he'd be a liar since he's denied it for so long.
Whatever. Honestly I don't care about him anymore and if he is gay, he can stay in the closet forever as far as I'm concerned.
- [quote]Twelve Opening Day games are currently set for Monday, April 1st.
[quote]The Cincinnati Reds will host the Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim on April 1st in the season's first edition of Interleague Play, which will be played throughout the regular season. Other Opening Day games on Monday include the Los Angeles Dodgers hosting the San Francisco Giants; the New York Mets hosting the San Diego Padres; the Washington Nationals hosting the Miami Marlins; the Chicago White Sox hosting the Kansas City Royals; the Minnesota Twins hosting the Detroit Tigers; the Arizona Diamondbacks hosting the St. Louis Cardinals; the Oakland Athletics hosting the Seattle Mariners; the Atlanta Braves hosting the Philadelphia Phillies; the Milwaukee Brewers hosting the Colorado Rockies; the Pittsburgh Pirates hosting the Chicago Cubs; and the New York Yankees hosting the Boston Red Sox.
- Chase Utley at the 2013 Phillies training camp
- Hope Chase Utley stays healthy all season as he's great to look at.
- Anthony Recker of the Mets at spring training.
- "I'm playing to win a World Series. That's why I'm playing baseball. That's all that matters. Period." - Roy Halladay at spring training
- Hunter Pence and Tim Lincecum Impressions of Each Other During 2013 SF Giants Fan Fest
- [quote]"I feel pretty damn good right now" - Chase Utley
I like how, when this was posted on Facebook, most of the comments from women were about Chase's looks and/or what they wanted to do with him
- I'd like to see a before and after picture of the weight that Mike Trout put on over the winter.
If he could pose for an updated shot like the one Torii Hunter posted last season, that would be much appreciated.
- Lincecum is so cool. I really hope his form returns.
- R10, the Schilling story surprises me a bit, I thought he was a big ol' conservative. Of course that doesn't mean he can't be open-minded.
I think Lincecum's adorable but I miss his long hair.
And Josh "Whipped Cream" Hamilton took another shot at his old team:
- Chase Utley lives on the same block where I work. I can't wait til he's back in town so I can "bump" into him at Starbucks. So hot.
- I wonder if Lincecum is going to let his grow back or continue to keep it short. He looked good with it long but looks more boyish with the short cut.
- I cannot wait for the day when this stops being news - individual players stating that they are cool with the idea of having gay teammates. This time it's Verlander.
The commentary from him might be of particular interest though because of his new teammate Torii Hunter having recently said he wouldn't be comfortable because he believes homosexuality is Biblically wrong...or whatever.
That's in contract to Verlander saying that he doesn't think any Tigers players would have difficulty coming out because the guys are a family.
Unfortunately, as long as people still make comments like Hunter did, I guess it's important for others like Verlander to give voice to the opposite opinion.
- I don't know enough about Torii Hunter. On on hand, he's not comfortable with LGBT. On the other hand, he supposedly said not to believe everything one reads about him.
Which is it?
- Which teams have done It Gets Better videos? I think the Giants and Phillies did one and possibly either the Mets or the Yankees.
- Who's cute?
- R25 I live in Philly are you talking about Philly, where in Philly does Utley live or what neighborhood? Met his wife Jen at an animal rights function a few years back, very nice
- Utley lives right on Washington Sq Park at the Ayer.
- Do any of you DLers participate in Fantasy Baseball Leagues?
I've never done it, but I'm definitely 'fantasy curious' and would be interested in finding a league that a newbie can play in.
- When do the teams haze rookies, making them dress up etc?
- Buster Posey gets $167M, 9-year deal from Giants
Associated Press - 58 mins ago
SAN FRANCISCO (AP) — Buster Posey is the San Francisco Giants' new franchise man.
The Giants rewarded NL MVP and batting champion with a $167 million, nine-year contract Friday, a deal that includes a club option for 2022 that could raise the value to $186 million over a decade.
Posey had been due to make $8 million this year. He instead gets a $7 million signing bonus, with $5 million payable Oct. 15 and the remainder Jan. 15, and his 2013 salary is reduced to $3 million.
He will make $10.5 million in 2014, $16.5 million in 2015, $20 million in 2016 and $21.4 million in each of the following five seasons. The Giants' option is for $22 million with a $3 million buyout.
Posey's agreement includes a full no-trade clause. Is the longest for a catcher and the largest in Giants history, surpassing Matt Cain's $127.5 million, six-year contract signed before the start of last season.
In addition, the deal is a record guarantee for a player with fewer than three years of major league service time — more than doubling the $80 million, seven-year contract Rockies slugger Carlos Gonzalez received before the 2011 season. It also is a record guarantee for a player with fewer than four years of service time, topping the $151.45 million over 11 years Colorado's Todd Helton was assured in March 2001.
The Giants captured their second championship in three years behind the play of the All-Star, who won the NL batting title and MVP award after missing most of 2011 following season-ending left leg and ankle injury.
Posey batted .336 with 24 homers and 103 RBIs while playing 148 games for the NL West champions, including 111 starts at catcher and 29 at first base. During the Giants' 2010 and '12 championship runs, Posey has hit a combined .244 with four home runs and 14 RBIs — two of those homers and five RBIs coming in last year's NL division series against the Reds in which San Francisco became the first team in big league history to rally from a 2-0 deficit to win a five-game series with three straight road victories.
On May 25, 2011, Posey tore three ligaments in his left ankle and broke a bone in his lower leg in a devastating collision at the plate with Scott Cousins, then with the Marlins.
Posey received his nice payday two days after turning 26.
He could wind up playing his entire career in the Bay Area — and the Giants certainly hope that will be the case. The club posted a photo on its Twitter account Friday of Posey, CEO Larry Baer, general manager Brian Sabean, vice president and assistant general manager Bobby Evans and manager Bruce Bochy — with the hashtag "SFG4Life."
The 2010 NL Rookie of the Year is represented by the same agency that negotiated Cain's deal last year, and both sides were eager to do something again this year to lock Posey up for the long-term.
"We're extremely pleased to reach an agreement that keeps Buster in a Giants uniform for a long time," agent Jeff Berry of CAA Baseball said. "Buster and the Giants have brought each other mutual success, and this contract reflects Buster's extraordinary accomplishments in just three years in the Major Leagues."
The contract includes the following bonuses: $100,000 for NL MVP, $100,000 for World Series MVP, $75,000 for NL championship series MVP, $50,000 for a Gold Glove, $50,000 for All-Star Game election, $25,000 for All-Star selection and $50,000 for a Silver Slugger.
In 2010, Posey wasn't even called up from Triple-A Fresno until late May but still batted .305 with 18 home runs and 67 RBIs in 108 games to help the Giants capture their first NL West crown since 2003.
San Francisco gave him $6.2 million when he signed in August 2008 as the fifth overall pick out of Florida State, the richest deal for an amateur joining the Giants.
- First Opening Day start sign of Hamels' importance
By Todd Zolecki / MLB.com | 3/29/2013 1:19 P.M. ET
CLEARWATER, Fla. -- Cole Hamels cradled the World Series MVP trophy in his hands that chilly October night in 2008.
He was the conquering hero of Philadelphia.
He almost single-handedly delivered the city its first championship since 1983, when the 76ers won the NBA title. But Hamels would continue to prove his worth in the coming years. He would make two National League All-Star teams and finish in the top 10 in NL Cy Young Award voting twice. He would be part of one of the greatest rotations in baseball history in 2011, when the Phillies won a franchise record 102 games.
He then signed a six-year, $144 million contract extension in July, proving monetarily he was one of the best pitchers in baseball.
But yet he had never started Opening Day until this year, which he'll do when he opens the Phillies' season Monday at 7:10 p.m. ET against the Braves at Turner Field.
"It really is [an honor]," he said. "A lot of great pitchers have had that honor, and to be one of them, it's something I will cherish. To be able to get your team off to the right start sets the tone for the entire season. It's something I'll be able to remember for a really long time. At the same time, I'm looking forward to the season. It's going to be a great season."
Hamels is one of the remaining core members of the '08 championship team. Ryan Howard, Chase Utley, Jimmy Rollins and Carlos Ruiz are the others.
He is the youngest, at 29.
He said he signed his extension because he believes in the future of the organization, despite an 81-81 finish last year that left the Phillies out of the postseason for the first time since 2006. Still, Hamels does acknowledge the time to win with this group is narrowing.
"You don't want to see it, but you understand the game of baseball is a very small window," Hamels said. "And you have to do very well for that period of time that you have. So I think -- even though you don't want to hear it -- it's more or less just the knowledge that you have to give it everything you can while you can, because it's going to be taken away really fast and you don't want to regret anything.
"I think that's kind of the idea behind what we have to do. We have to perfect everything we can. We have to play as hard as we possibly can. Because it's going to disappear fast, and I don't want it to disappear. That's why I still signed here, because I firmly believe we have a great team and we can win the World Series. And the organization wants to see that and the fans want to see that. And I think that's the ingredients that you need to succeed, and we have to push the limits."
Hamels did not start Opening Day in 2009 because of an elbow injury. He did not start Opening Day each of the previous three seasons because Roy Halladay got the nod.
Halladay is cause for serious concern as the season starts. He hasn't looked anything close to the dominant pitcher he had been in the past.
That should put more pressure on Hamels to perform.
"I think all of us need to do that," he said. "I don't think it's necessarily the pitching staff. I think it's the 25 guys on the team have to, along with the coaches. We have to motivate each other. We have to stay positive no matter if one guy goes down. That's what was hard with last year -- we weren't able to push to our top limits, and I think that's what we have to do this year and I know we're capable of it. And I think we've realized that. When you take a step back, you know you can take a couple of steps forward, and I think that's what we're doing."
That is the hope. If Hamels leads the rotation, the Phillies certainly have a better chance of getting back to the postseason. But it will be difficult to usurp the Nationals, who finished with the best record in baseball last season.
"Very close," Hamels said, when asked if the Phillies were close to winning the World Series again. "But when the time comes and we have to step between the lines, we have to play the very best baseball we can for 173 games. We have to look at it that way. If we don't take that sort of approach, then we're selling ourselves short. That's the attitude that we're getting. You can feel it in the clubhouse. You can see the work ethic. This is something that we want to do. We want to win 173 games and that's what we going to play for."
He can get them off on the right foot Monday.
- Does Buster's $167 million deal include a promise of full frontal nudity?
- Cole Hamels sporting a pornstache at tonight's Phlllies exhibition game at Citizens Bank Park
- [bold]BEST MLB STADIUMS[/bold]
[bold][italic]With opening day rapidly approaching, Onion Sports provides a helpful guide to the greatest ballparks in Major League Baseball.[/italic][/bold]
[italic]PNC Park:[/italic] With its picturesque skyline views and fan-friendly amenities, PNC Park would be a great place to watch any team other than the Pirates
[italic]Wrigley Field:[/italic] The second-oldest major league baseball stadium has 41,000 seats that can fit roughly 18,000 Chicago Cubs fans
[italic]AT&T Park:[/italic] Offers a thrilling activity in the bay just outside the stadium where kayakers fight to the death to please throngs of bloodthirsty onlookers
[italic]The Coliseum:[/italic] Home of the Oakland A’s, it boasts all four bases, a pitcher’s mound, and an outfield
[italic]Minute Maid Park:[/italic] While the retractable roof is impressive, the real gems of this park are the 1,086 black flags hanging from the rafters that commemorate every Astros loss since the park opened in 2000
[italic]Tropicana Field:[/italic] Has over 40,000 great empty seats for every Rays game
[italic]Coors Field:[/italic] Home runs abound in Denver where the air is thin and the outfield fence is 150 feet from home
[italic]Marlins Park:[/italic] The beloved establishment recently installed a gigantic statue in center field of Marlins owner Jeffrey Loria flipping off all the fans while defecating on a miniature version of Miami
[italic]U.S. Cellular Field:[/italic] Named in honor of beloved White Sox manager Upwood Sidney Cellular
[italic]Citizens Bank Park:[/italic] Philadelphia’s downtown stadium offers fantastic sight lines, delicious local grub, and comfortable seats from which to scream racial epithets
- Opening Day is finally here...almost.
ESPN kicks things off later today with a game that I normally wouldn't be interested in, but this afternoon I'll be watching the Rangers take on newly re-aligned Astros.
Well I should say that I'll watch a little of it. Monday will be better.
Anybody going to an Opening Day game?
- I have a crush on Josh Reddick of the A's. I've always wondered if he might be gay.
If you google him, you can see a dizzying array of hair styles & facial hair experiments ...would a straight guy do this?
At his best, he looks boyishly cute, he has a nice trim body & a great butt. I only hope he shaves the hideous scraggy beard that makes him look like an Amish farmer.
One cute thing is the chant that Yankees' bleacher fans would unleash mercilessly on him: "Red-Dick, Red-Dick!" ;)
- Yep. Josh Reddick can be boyishly cute, but he's been trying to copy Brian Wilson with the beard thing, which only makes him look like a straight douchebag.
- Madison Bumgarner; the epitome of horse-dick face.
- That Onion spoof in r39 about ball parks was a scream, especially the bit about Chicago.
- Philadelphia's Citizen Bank Park isn't "downtown" though. And I've heard worse from fans from and in other cities but I guess Philly will always have a bad reputation when it comes to its fans.
- R45, didn't Philly fans use to wolf whistle at Tim Lincecum because of his long hair? Seems like they earn their low class reputation with relish.
- I have a weird crush on Mark Reynolds. Can't explain it. Maybe because he's thick with a nice ass.
- Dustin Ackley for Seattle is the cutest guy ever.
- Verlander is getting paid mega millions now. He deserves it, he's a stud on and off the field
- R48, gotta agree with you ...Dustin Ackley is one gorgeous stud ...and he is mine! -though he doesn't know it yet ;)
- Now I'm curious...gotta see me some pics of this Dustin Ackley.
- WOW just looked at some pics of Ackley...he is hot.
- Phillies @ Atlanta. Chipper Jones threw out the first baseball. So strange to see him not suited up to play.
- The Rangers' Yu Darvish lost his chance at a perfect game with two outs in the ninth inning when the Astros' Marwin Gonzalez singled up the middle.
- I wish more baseball players would shave. I'm tired of the scruffy look.
- R55, I don't understand a single thing you wrote but the fact that you did write it with concise intelligence and enthusiasm is rather hot to me.
Now please don't tell me you are a lesbian.
- Clayton Kershaw was a stud on Opening Day. Pitching a complete game shutout (of the defending World Series champs no less) AND scoring his team's only run with a solo shot over the fence is a great start to his season.
But for about a year now I've been completely in lust with the Giants bullpen pitcher who served up that pitch to Kershaw that has given him is first ever home run.
George Kontos is one hot Greek, and I can't remember the last time I've said that about anyone.
I know there are folks that post on here about how hot Tim Lincecum is. Well you all can have that kid. Give me the full grown man Kontos for a weekend.
- I wanna ram my tongue so deep inside of Ryan Braun's ass. YUM
- r59 = Aaron Rodgers
Welcome to the DL Aaron. Don't act like you haven't already tasted that hole.
- Don't hate, I know you jealous that you can't bury your tongue in Braun's hole anytime you want like I can.
- Ian Kinsler is the cutest little thing.
- David Wright....yum
- Cliff Lee has a very nice ass. Was horny all night watching him pitch yesterday.
- Thanks for that post, r58. Don't have TV and listen to games on the radio, so rarely see the players unless I'm at the game or if I Google them.
Agree that Kontos is HOT. Too bad he blew it on Opening Day.
Would you care to reveal your team preference? I promise to play nice if you are a Dodgers fan.
- For r63, hot David Wright getting hotter with guyliner.
- I don't mind at all, r65. While I live in San Diego and therefore I see the NL-West play a lot, the Padres aren't my team. The team that I live and die by (mostly die) is the much smaller market Milwaukee Brewers.
But I'm not the one that posts here about Ryan Braun being hot - that is somebody else who may or may not be a Brew Crew backer.
That said though, I am a fan of the game as a whole, so I have appreciation for lots of different players and teams. I hate who I'm supposed to hate (Cardinals and Cubbies), but I say that with my tongue in my cheek since when it comes down to it, I have respect for both of those organizations and like several of their players.
I'm going out on a limb guessing that you might be a Giants fan, and further out by wondering if you are the guy that I was exchanging with on here (the 2012 thread though) during the World Series. I too like your Giants, and definitely more than the Dodgers, but there are several Dodger players that I am a fan of also.
Anyway, thanks for the feedback. In my experience fans of baseball are generally good people, even if we have disagreements about teams or players.
- Josh Hamilton says wife called for security before game
By SCHUYLER DIXON | Associated Press – 39 mins ago
ARLINGTON, Texas (AP) — Los Angeles Angels outfielder Josh Hamilton says his wife had to call for security before his first game against the Texas Rangers because fans of his former team were shouting obscenities and personal insults at his family.
The All-Star slugger said Saturday that security guards stayed near his wife, Katie, and their children, and there weren't any major incidents during Friday's game.
"She ended up calling security just because people are being ugly," said Hamilton, who was 0 for 4 in the Angels' 3-2 loss. "Not necessarily the booing and stuff, but inappropriate with kids around — and that was before the game even started."
Rangers spokesman John Blake says the Angels had requested extra security near the Hamiltons, and there were no ejections after Katie Hamilton asked for help.
Hamilton said his family "absolutely" planned to attend the remaining two games, and Blake said they would be more isolated in a suite. Blake said a suite wasn't available for the Rangers' sold-out home opener.
Major League Baseball suspended Hamilton for more than three years for drug and alcohol use while he was in the Tampa Bay organization. He also had a couple of relapses with the Rangers.
The 2010 AL MVP said he heard plenty of insults from the stands Friday, including "crackhead" references like he used to get at Yankee Stadium in his first season with the Rangers five years ago.
"It's cool to get ragged on about normal things," Hamilton said. "But when you get a little swearing and jawing back at Katie and saying inappropriate things, it's a little different story."
Hamilton had a rough return on the field, striking out in his first two at-bats — which drew standing ovations — and just missing on a throw from right field that could have kept the game tied in the eighth inning.
But he had a good time Friday night at the suburban Dallas home he plans to keep, and said his four daughters were unaffected by the day's events.
"They kissed me and hugged me and said, 'Good game,'" Hamilton said. "They went on about playing with their little friends they had over. I went out and jumped on the trampoline with them. So it was like any other game coming home."
- Los Angeles Angels' Josh Hamilton stands in right field as a fan holds a sign referencing Hamilton's past problems with alcohol and substance abuse during their MLB American league baseball game against the Texas Rangers in Arlington, Texas April 5, 2013.
- Los Angeles Angels' Josh Hamilton, left, and Garrett Richards, right, sit in the dugout in the eighth inning of a baseball game against the Texas Rangers, Friday, April 5, 2013, in Arlington, Texas. Hamilton was a five-time All-Star and the 2010 AL MVP while with Texas before going to the AL West-rival Angels with a $125 million, five-year contract over the winter. He finished 0 for 4, he was booed when he was introduced, then cheered when he struck out twice.
- I think it's terrific that Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim now have Albert Pujols and Josh Hamilton.
It's great because they both played for teams that come from red states -- Missouri and Texas.
I'm very happy their losses are California's gains.
- Francona gets lost before home opener
Associated Press - 43 mins ago
CLEVELAND (AP) — New Indians manager Terry Francona said he got lost making a two-block walk to Progressive Field for the home opener.
Francona, who is living in downtown Cleveland during the season, was thankful there were people on the streets Monday morning "because I got lost three times." Francona joked that he doesn't have a good sense of direction and was glad someone finally picked him up in a golf cart and got him to the ballpark.
Boston's manager for eight seasons, Francona said "Cleveland is officially the nicest people I've ever met. Everybody I did walk by said, 'Hello.' That's a little different than I'm used to."
Francona said he was looking forward to catching a ceremonial first pitch from his father, Tito, who played outfield for the Indians from 1959-64.
- Anyone else think Francona is a hot daddy?
- The Phillies lost. To the Mets.
- [bold]Anyone else think Francona is a hot daddy?[/bold]
Is there any doubt, R73?
Speaking of Cleveland Indians and hot men, what has happened with Grady Sizemore?
- [quote]Anyone else think Francona is a hot daddy?
- Phillies beat the Mets last night and the final batter up was Mr. Hot Ass himself, Anthony Recker. He is a Mets catcher now.
- Josh Hamilton having a relapse in a bar in AZ from several years back. Some wise guy photoshopped Jesus in the background, oy veying over one of his lost flock. Apparently he had another relapse in 2012.
- How about this for a random appearance by a former major leaguer on a TV show?
Jim Edmonds is on the newest episode of Real Housewives of Orange County. Apparently he's friends with Heather Dubrow and her husband because he showed up to one of their parties.
He came to the party alone - no wife, no date - but didn't appear to be hitting on any of the guests, male or female. That made me search online for info on his marriage status because I know he remarried about 4 years ago, but haven't heard much about him since he retired.
Apparently he's still married and although there are sporadic stories about it being a troubled, it looks like he and the wife picked up the kids and relocated to St. Louis. He's got a new job with Fox Sports as part of the broadcast team covering his old Cardinals. And the house he had in Anaheim is for sale, so I doubt he'll be a recurring 'friend' on RHOC.
Anyway, he still looks as hot as ever.
- Papelbon reacts to Boston tragedy
By Todd Zolecki / MLB.com | 4/15/2013 5:05 P.M. ET
CINCINNATI -- The Phillies sat in silence Monday afternoon as a horrific scene played out on the TVs above them inside the visitors' clubhouse at Great American Ball Park.
At least two explosions occurred at the end of the Boston Marathon with multiple deaths and injuries reported.
Phillies closer Jonathan Papelbon played seven seasons with the Red Sox and lived above the popular steakhouse Abe and Louie's, where one of the explosions took place. He carried a blank look on his face as he shared his thoughts before Monday's game against the Reds.
"It's sad, man," he said. "Patriots' Day is a big thing in Boston, Sox play at 11 o'clock. It's all ruined. Families are ruined, lives are ruined. For what? It's just sad.
"I'm looking at it right now, and I'm like, damn, I used to live right there."
Papelbon said he has tried to contact people in Boston, but he has had no luck.
"It's kind of surreal," Papelbon said. "I don't know man, it's crazy. It's hard to even think about. … Hopefully, the city can rally and make things better, but it's going to be tough."
- Papelbon, in a new interview, says that Obama wants to take everyone's guns. *sigh* As much as I like him, I hope he gets flak, from both fans and the Phillies, for saying something so stupid.
That's enough for me to turn on Jonathan Papelbon.
You have to watch out for these Republican sports players.
- Isn't Papelbon from the deep South (Louisiana maybe)? Kind of says it all.
- Papelbon is dumb as a box of rocks.
Wait! I take it back, that's not fair to the rest of the boxes of rocks.
- [bold]Yankees Disabled List Absolutely Stacked[/bold]
By [italic]The Onion[/italic] (04.18.2013)
NEW YORK—After recently acquiring third baseman Alex Rodriguez, center fielder Curtis Granderson, first baseman Mark Teixeira, and shortstop Derek Jeter, the New York Yankees disabled list is absolutely stacked this year, sources confirmed Thursday. “This is a deep, deep DL,” said ESPN baseball analyst John Kruk, who noted that the injured list is loaded with power, speed, and multiple probable Hall of Famers. “Looking at the sheer talent they have, from top to bottom it’s a murderers’ row. If they can land a couple quality pitchers, this could be one of those historic disabled lists that people talk about for decades to come.” At press time, unconfirmed rumors indicated that the Yankees’ formidable disabled list may soon acquire Cy Young–winning left-handed pitcher CC Sabathia.
- [bold]Wrigley Field Renovation Proposal Includes Tearing Down Clubhouse, Bleachers, Upper Deck, Lower Deck, Building New Stadium 10 Miles North[/bold]
By [italic]The Onion[/italic] (04.18.2013)
CHICAGO—Cubs Chairman Tom Ricketts unveiled a $500 million Wrigley Field renovation proposal Thursday that includes demolishing the clubhouse, bleachers, upper deck, lower deck, as well as building a new stadium 10 miles north of the soon to be razed ballpark. “It’s going to be the same Wrigley Field that Chicago fans love, but it will have more space, new corporate boxes, new high-definition video boards, a new location, and a brand-new name,” said Ricketts, adding that the plan to modernize the revered Wrigley Field by tearing down outmoded features and constructing a new ballpark in the suburb of Evanston will be respectful to the stadium’s rich history and maintain its iconic status. “I’m very confident that these renovations will be enjoyed by our new roster, management, and fanbase.” Ricketts assured reporters that the refurbished outfield wall at Wrigley Field will still feature a 5-foot section of ivy.
- Never really cared for Jeter, even though I will give him props for his playing ability, I think he comes across as too cocky but I worry that this latest injury may be career ending.
- I think someone on DL has posted that they like Chad Billingsley (and his super thick, beefy thighs). Disappointing news that he's out for at least a year now because he's going to have the Tommy John.
And in other amusing (to me) news, Padres Carlos Quentin returned from his 8-game suspension today and said that during his time off he contacted Zack Greinke and talked to him on the phone. He doesn't go into detail except to say that they had a good and productive chat.
Seems like it would be next to impossible to have a 'good chat' with Greinke considering his social anxiety and how he has zero affect when he speaks, but I'm sure that Quentin actually feels bad for hurting him and wanted to say that.
He absolutely was ready to rumble to get his point across that he's had with Greinke throwing at him (even if it is inadvertent), but I doubt he really wanted to hurt Zack and risk ending his career.
Either way, I thought he was a good man for calling Zack to apologize - if that's really what he did.
- Okay, it may seem like a stupid question but I really don't know much about the background stuff when it comes to baseball but are most pitchers exceptionally tall or is it a more recent thing? I read that the Phillies new pitcher Jonathan Pettibone is 6'5" or 6'6"
- I think they prefer taller pitchers because it has something to do with the mound and affecting the ball's angle when thrown.
- Papelbon. Pettibone. Who's next?
- It's not a stupid question R89. And r90 mentions one of the (perceived?) advantages. I'll try to expand a little bit, but I can't explain it fully because it partially gets into a discussion of physics that is beyond my pay grade.
1) Like r90 says, the angle that the ball approaches the plate is different whether coming from a 6'6 guy vs. a 6' guy. It helps to visualize the cuboid strike zone and think about how the ball only has to pass through a part of it (even just a front or back corner) to be a strike.
The higher up in the plane the pitch starts, the sharper angle it can cut downward toward the strike zone - especially a good slider. The ball just has to catch a front low corner of that strike zone and it can continue sliding downward toward the ground. That minimizes (only by a fraction of a second) the time that the ball is occupying the space for a batter to make a good/comfortable swing.
2) Changing the way the batter sees the ball coming toward them is the next advantage. I'm 6'0, and if I pitch a straight fastball to you, that is the easiest thing for your brain to see and process the anticipated movement of because it's coming nearly level with only the slightest downward tilt. So you can prepare for the easiest swing because your brain is fast enough to know that the ball is moving in straight line at something like torso level.
But that also helps you be able to recognize when a non-straight pitch is coming like a curve ball for example. The closer the pitch starts to the batter's eye height, the earlier they can know if it is coming in with unusual movement or straightaway. But the higher in the air the pitch starts, once again, the trickier it is to recognize if the ball has movement or is a straight pitch.
3) Another thing a pitcher wants is to avoid the batter seeing for as long as possible is the ball coming out of their hand. Good batters can see the grip as the ball leaves the pitcher's hand and immediately process what that means for the movement of the ball they should expect.
So a freakishly tall pitcher with a long wingspan can have a good advantage because they can minimize (again, by only fractions of seconds) that amount of space between where they release the ball off the mound and where it arrives at the plate. A tall guy taking a huge step forward from the mound to pitch usually has a longer stride. So combine that stride with his longer arm and you can imagine that the spot in space where he would release the ball is a couple of inches closer to the plate than a short pitcher.
And again, the batter not seeing the release of the ball until it is those couple of inches closer to him cuts down the time his brain has to process what pitch is coming.
4) The last advantage is the one about physics that I can't really explain because it has to do with levers (a rod pivoting on a hinge). I just know that the belief is that a longer rod (long arms in this case) should be able to throw the ball faster as the rod pivots to the extend the hinge (elbow) lets it. But there is a cumulative effect because there are so many pivot points as a pitcher winds up and throws (elbow, shoulder, hips, and whatever else) and all of those bones (rods) are longer.
While I can't argue the physics explanation for that, I know that it doesn't necessarily hold true that the tallest pitchers generate the fasted pitches. There are more factors that affect how hard a pitcher throws.
So in summary...
1) Angle possibilities
2) Line of sight
3) Closer release point
4) Pitch speed
Those are things that could make a scout salivate over checking out a long, tall pitching prospect. It works for some, but I'll still take Pedro Martinez on my team anyday.
- Nats gotta get better. Their pitching sucks.
- Bryce Harper leaves game in the sixth with apparent injury (bruised left side)
- Speaking of Bryce, yesterday ESPN ran a 1-hour documentary style show about him called Bryce Begins. It was his story of growing up and his not very lengthy or difficult struggle to make it to the Majors.
He's been so impressive as a player since his Nats debut a year ago that I'd nearly forgotten about his rep for being a cocky asshole before he came up. I remember assuming he'd carry that attitude over and be such a prick that he'd be the new guy to hate in the game. But instead he's been nothing but professional and he still plays like a rock star. I'm happy that he doesn't act like one.
The show included a short scene of him packing his suitcase in his bedroom at his parent's home before he leaves for spring training. He was just wearing shorts and his body was very solid.
- thanks R95! ...hope they show it again ...looking forward to it, especially the bedroom scene ;)
Hopeless & Hapless M's Fan
- Wow, Roy Halladay was really bad today, even more so than in his previous starts. It was obvious that he's hurting so I don't know why Charlie Manuel decided to use him other than Halladay insisting he was fit.
- Seattle Mariners' cutie Dustin Ackley popped his cherry yesterday, hitting his first career grand slam.
- Bryce Harper is that dude.
- Dustin Ackley is a cutie. Is he trying to tell us something here?
- haha, R100! ...we can dream, can't we?
I think Dustin needs a good massage, and i'm just the one to give it.
- I ask you, would a straight guy go through so many facial hair incarnations? ...
- Photos: 6th annual Utley All Star Animals Casino Night
05/16/2013 4:35 PM
By Colin Kerrigan
Phillies second baseman, Chase Utley, and his wife, Jen, held their 6th annual Utley All Star Animals Casino Night at the Electric Factory last night which benefited the Pennsylvania SPCA.
Many of Utley's teammates were in attendance including Ryan Howard, Cole Hamels, Jimmy Rollins and more. The annual event has raised nearly $1.5 million over the past five years.
Photo gallery at link
- I am going to fuck you long and hard, r101. With an entire bottle of creamy body lotion.
- Chase Utley...so good looking!
- Any guy who likes animals can't be bad.
- The Giants relief pitcher Jeremy Affeldt has some interesting things to say about how his perception of gay people has evolved over his career. He does sound a little bit wacky in how extreme he used to be, but what he has to say now makes him seem like a moderately more rational guy.
Affeldt says that several years ago when he was on another team and would have a series in San Fran or Oakland, he wouldn't leave his hotel room except to go to the ballpark. He blames homophobia for that over-the-top response. He was so afraid of encountering gay people that he'd shelter himself.
[Side note: I don't know why he has to mention only having that reaction when visiting the Bay Area - maybe he really thought the only gay folks in the States all live there.]
But now he plays in the city he used to hate visiting, and he says he loves it. He said he began reevaluating his 'fear' of gay people in 2008 when a gay Starbucks employee was very good to his son.
Overall I think he sounds a little kooky still, but it still makes for a mildly interesting read.
- Looks like Seattle Mariners' cutie Dustin Ackley is being sent down to AAA Tacoma today, in response to his dramatic fall-off as a hitter. As a diehard Mariners' fan - and an admirer of Dustin's fabulous face & physique - here's hoping that he can get back on track soon!
- Sometimes I've wondered why Billy Bean hasn't had a more visible (for lack of a better word) role in some organization that promotes either equality or gay athletes, or something.
As far as I knew, he was busy making a buck selling real estate with occasional interviews when somebody stirred the pot publicly about gays in the major US sports. He always come across as so well spoken and thoughtful when I see him interviewed that I've thought he should have more of a leadership role.
Well now he's been announced as vice-chairman of Ben Cohen's Stand Up Foundation. According to the attached...
[quote]He will focus on helping professional leagues and athletes at all levels commit themselves to the fairness, equality, dignity and respect that defines true sportsmanship.
I think that's great and hopefully it's a good fit for him. He was the first gay athlete (or ex-athlete) that I became aware of and reading his autobiography was personally revelatory because I'm such a fan of the game of baseball.
- Jonathan Papelbon's first return to Fenway as a member of an opposing team. An interesting reaction from the crowd when he first walked toward the mound and then when he was announced -- some applause and cheers but mostly a lot of booing. Like a lot of players who have changed teams, it certainly helped that he never bad-mouthed the BoSox when he went to the Phillies. I forget who it was, but there was a classy move by one of the Red Sox who, in the bottom of the 9th, was struck out and nodded toward Papelbon as he walked off home plate.
- Francona got love and a well deserved ovation when he returned to Boston this weekend.
- I am just glad Boston beat Cleveland this past weekend. I have heard more than enough about Francona. He and Nick Swisher can enjoy all the 20 yo Cleveland women now.
- Manny Macho is the man
- He's no Ryan Zimmerman.
- The Philly Phan that posts on here can't be thrilled with this story.
Although it's not really a story at all. The Yahoo writer is just saying that the Dodgers should target obtaining Utley before the trade deadline this summer. Doesn't sound like he's reporting that he's heard anything to indicate that it's actually on the table.
- At the same game that r111 was talking about, the first pitch was thrown out by the kid (Jeff Bauman) that said he stared one of the Boston bombers in the face when he was placing his backpack bomb. Bauman's legs were blown off and that cowboy hat dude (Carlos Arredondo) got him in a wheelchair and as he was pushing him to a medic station, they became subjects of one of the most well-known photos of the day.
Both guys threw out first pitches together, and even though Jeff is throwing from his wheelchair, his pitch is pretty near perfect.
- David Wright, New York Mets Player, Voted CougarLife.com's 'Hottest Cub'
Ron Dicker | May 31, 2013
New York Mets star David Wright will have to wait to see if he is chosen to play in the All-Star Game. But he already has the cougar vote.
CougarLife.com, a dating site for women of a certain age seeking men shorter in the tooth, named the 30-year-old third baseman the "hottest cub" among major league players.
More than 11,000 women took the poll to rank their boys of summer, according to the CougarLife blog.
Rounding out the top 10 were Cole Hamels, 29; Matt Kemp, 28; Carlos Gonzalez, 27; Robinson Cano, 30; Anthony Rizzo, 23; Miguel Cabrera, 30; Buster Posey 26; Joe Mauer, 30; and Bryce Harper, 20.
"With all those virile young men rounding the bases in form fitting pants, what’s not to like?” Miss CougarLife Marlo Jordan said on the blog post.
Outlets chimed in on the breathtaking news.
The New York Daily News noted that cougars might want to hunt elsewhere, cause Wright is engaged to model Molly Beers.
Yardbarker got a little catty, declaring that the honor "apparently means that a bunch of presumably desperate, lonely (and frisky?) middle-aged women who frequent the site have taken a shine to the New York Mets third baseman."
Note: CougarLife lists Anthony Rizzo's age as 31. However, according to information listed on MLB.com, Rizzo is 23.
- I have a new make-believe husband, and his name is Evan Gattis. Grrr.
- It's been a week now, and I still can't get this interview out of my mind.
For anyone that isn't familiar with it...the Blue Jays shortstop Munenori Kawasaki hit a walk-off double to win the game. The interview starts with Mark DeRosa who scored on the play, and he's just starting to give the same canned phrases that all ball players spout in response to post-game questions. But the guy who really deserves to be on camera finally comes out of the dugout for his due celebration, and he shows some real spirit.
I keep catching myself thinking (and sometimes saying out loud) "I'ma Japaneeeeeeese!" But I am not of Japanese heritage, so I make certain to not make it audible for others to hear since it could probably be considered offensive.
On another note - I think the Jays uniforms look really sharp this season. I wasn't sure it would be cool to back to that retro look, but I really like it now. Definitely much better than that logo they had last year.
- updated 12:26 PM EDT 06.05.13
Report: Doping scandal, baseball suspensions
By Ben Brumfield and Jill Martin, CNN
(CNN) - Major League Baseball is set to suspend some 20 players in the coming weeks due to a scandal involving performance-enhancing drugs, according to an ESPN report.
The network says it is potentially the worst drug abuse case in the history of baseball.
The league declined to comment to CNN, but confirmed that an investigation is in the works.
Baseball's highest-paid player, New York Yankee Alex "A-Rod" Rodriguez, as well as Ryan Braun of the Milwaukee Brewers are among those facing suspension, ESPN said, citing unnamed sources.
Both have denied using performance-enhancing drugs, or PEDs.
(More at link.)
- Looks like the shit is really going to go down with this story.
MLB is be pursing this hard core, even though the names affected are huge, or at least some of them are.
Nats pitcher Gio Gonzalez might get off without any kind of sanctioning if the preliminary info is correct. It looks like Biogenesis might have only supplied him with legal/allowed supplements. But that info could change.
The Yankees will of course explore every possibility to nullify their contract with A-Rod. But I can't feel too bad for them since they agreed to commit to a rotten deal with him in the first place.
Melky Cabrera is an especially disturbing case. Last year he took his suspension without much of a fight and apologized to the Giants and seemed to be generally remorseful for what he'd done. But then he parlayed that into another big contract this year - even though he was still as dirty as ever.
What are the clean players supposed to think when they see that guy still being showered with money?
And Ryan Braun - by now he must have worn out whatever benefit-of-the-doubt that some people were willing to give him from when he got his failed test overturned. He spoke so eloquently and (seemingly) sincerely about how he never would cheat and disrespect his team and the game of baseball. And he added that kicker about how one day he'd be able to tell a full story and we'd all know that he was innocent. Well that was 2011 and people are still waiting for that full story.
It seems like a lot of baseball fans don't get too bothered about news like this - or at least not anymore. Well it's infuriating to me. It's especially devastating (that might be too strong a word, but it's close) when players that I've always respected end up to be cheaters and liars just like the guys from a decade ago.
- I agree with you, R122.
The thing that surprises me is some of these players would *only* get a 100 game suspension. I'd love to see MLB put some teeth in the penalties.
2 year suspension
Ineligible for Hall of Fame
Confiscation of WS titles or post-season awards for any year found guilty of doping offense
- Both Pedro Gomez and Tim Kurkjian on ESPN have said that several players they talked to (they didn't name names) wish the penalties were made much more severe like you suggest, r123.
Something along the lines of a 100-game suspension for a first offense, and a second time means a lifetime ban from the sport. Now THAT might make some guys think twice.
And I think contracts should start having clauses that allow them to be broken if/when a guy gets caught cheating. A-Rod, for example, probably couldn't care less if they suspend him again because the Yankees will still have to pay him for the next 7 years no matter what. So where is his incentive to play by the rules?
But also, MLB has to then stay really diligent with advancing their testing system. Since all of these names in the Biogenesis story are pretty much assumed guilty even though they haven't failed any recent test - Obviously guys are doing a Lance Armstrong and getting by without getting caught.
- R122 et al ....these new allegations / actions are so far completely without merit ...no corresponding PED tests to validate the so-called charges.
And let's not pretend here. MLB knew full well what was happening with Sosa-McGwire & Barry Bonds in response to the attntion those two got. Baseball conveniently looked the other way when it neded a shot in the arm - in the form or a home run race - to rid the public of ugly memories of the strike. Now they are on a righteous crusade? Forgive me for not falling for it.
- Who gives a shit about doping. Post more menz.
- Keep in mind that many of the players named in this report are repeat offenders. That's why the punishments are so severe (though should be much worse).
- Nationals OF Harper to see knee specialist Monday
By JOSEPH WHITE | Associated Press – 37 mins ago
WASHINGTON (AP) — The swelling in Bryce Harper's left knee isn't getting any better, so the Washington outfielder will see a specialist next week and won't be coming off the disabled list when he is eligible.
Nationals manager Davey Johnson said Thursday that Harper visit Dr. James Andrews on Monday for a second opinion on the knee that has been troublesome ever since the 20-year-old slugger ran into the wall at Dodger Stadium on May 13.
"We've just got to get the swelling out. We've got to get the inflammation out of there," Johnson said. "We haven't been real successful with our treatment here."
The news is the latest health blow to the Nationals, who are struggling to tread water in the NL East after starting the season as division favorites. The club's other marquee young star, Stephen Strasburg, was placed on the disabled list Wednesday with a strained muscle in the lower back. The team announced Thursday that left-handed reliever Xavier Cedeno has been recalled from Triple-A Syracuse to take Strasburg's roster spot.
Johnson said Harper's knee was swollen after some light jogging in the pool Thursday. The injury has been diagnosed as bursitis, but it hasn't responded to anti-inflammatories. Johnson said there's not enough fluid in the knee to drain it and that surgery to remove the bursa sac would be a "last resort."
Harper is eligible to come off the 15-day disabled list on Tuesday, but he said he will need to play a couple of rehab games in the minors to test the knee.
"I'm not going to rush it. I'm going to take as much time as I can to get it right," Harper said. "I want to get back in this lineup 100 percent. I don't want to get back in it 80 percent."
The NL Rookie of the Year dismissed any thought of having a cortisone shot to help him get back on the field.
"I don't want to put any of that stuff in my knee, in my body," he said. "It would do some damage to my knee, and I'm not going to do that at 20 years old."
Harper leads the Nationals with 12 home runs and a .287 batting average, and has 23 RBIs.
With Strasburg sidelined, Cedeno's recall is a temporary measure because the Nationals will need a starter for Saturday's game against Minnesota. Johnson didn't say who will be promoted, but the top candidate is right-hander Ross Ohlendorf, who has pitched for three major league teams and is 4-5 with a 4.32 ERA at Syracuse.
Johnson said the other starter pitcher on the DL, Ross Detwiler, is scheduled to make a rehab start at Single-A Potomac on Saturday. Detwiler, who has been battling a strained oblique muscle, is scheduled to throw 40-50 pitches for Potomac, and, if all goes well, will return to the big league rotation late next week.
Johnson also said that Danny Espinosa had a cortisone shot for the small wrist fracture that landed the second baseman on the DL. Espinosa had MRIs on both his right wrist and his shoulder, which is still showing the effects of his decision to play last season with a torn rotator cuff.
Johnson said Espinosa will be sidelined four or five days before resuming baseball activities.
- [quote]And let's not pretend here.
Who is pretending that, r125? None of us has posted that MLB and team owners & managers weren't complicit in allowing the power surge in the late 90s. Of course they were and they all reaped the benefits of more seats filled in stadiums and bigger TV contracts. It was a win/win time for everybody except for the guys that continued to play the game honestly and got screwed for their integrity. I agree with you on that 100%.
But the story today is how in 2013 MLB is taking a hard and public stance to reverse the damage that they allowed to happen over all those years. They are even taking it so far as to publicly go after a handful of the current roster of superstars. And a decade after the steroid era was exposed and a penalty system began to be implemented, players are still willing to risk it to cheat.
That’s what we are talking about today.
To expand on your point about the culpability of teams or of MLB, I was wondering if there are ways to make them have at least a little responsibility for their players who still choose to dope.
The Melky Cabrera case is what makes me wonder about additional options. Because right now it’s only the player that is sanctioned, but should the team that took a risk and signed him be held accountable for anything? Yeah the teams have to bring in a replacement player for a time, but they don’t have to pay their suspended player for the off time. All they really suffer is maybe some weaker performance with the new guy – it’s the player that takes on the majority of the bad press.
Should teams that bring on a player like Cabrera (a known offender, but also a big name and a good draw) also be impacted when that player has another strike against them? I feel like maybe owners wouldn’t jump to sign him if they might also suffer (maybe financially) if the player gets nailed again. It’s mainly for the clean players that lose roster spots to cheaters that I consider things like this.
This is mostly thinking as I type, so it’s not very well fleshed out, but it goes to your point about the management being complicit with steroid abuse and not suffering any of the consequences as a result. What about instituting an MLB law that when a player gets dinged, the team still has to pay his salary, but not to the player. That money could get put into a pool for something. My first thought was that pooled money could go to a bonus funding of the MLB anti-doping program - but that’s no good, really no good. Ideally I think anti-doping should be an independent organization and if they got additional money from teams with banned players…that leads to conflict of interest and questioning of their motives. So maybe the funds from the banned player’s salary could go to whatever local charities that team supports. I like that idea. But this is something I’ll probably think about more.
Also, in my post at r124 I did state that all the players implicated in the Biogenesis story are accused without having failed any recent tests. I add that just because the whole vibe of your post at r125 feels like you are correcting me and the other poster before mine.
Anyway, I’m happy there is actually discussion about something in this thread finally.
- Troy Tulowitzki is one of my favorite players and pretty much the only reason I pay attention to the Rockies this year, but the guy can't make it through a season without getting hurt. Yesterday he cracked a rib just diving for a ball and will be out for at least the next month. My fantasy team sucks - all due to the DL!
And while I like Ian Kennedy, I wish he'd gotten a stiffer penalty as a result of the D-backs/Dodgers brawl this week. He hit both Puig and Greinke in the head. I'm no longer much of a fan of Zack, but by that point in the game it was blatantly obvious that Kennedy was not just throwing at batters, but purposely at Greinke's head.
If you can't pitch inside without beaning guys in the head, then you can't pitch inside. The retaliation bullshit has got to be addressed another way because you can't risk ending a players career.
- R130, what's your beef with Zack?
Agree with your comments on Kennedy.
- The Oakland Coliseum always looks way less than half filled when I watch their games. But they are averaging almost 22,000/home game which is more than I was expecting. I though the number would be closer to the Florida teams - in the upper teens.
The A's have managed competitive teams without star players for so many years now. Would a new stadium get fans to show up? It's at least got to be a safer bet than Miami who had superstars on the team, got money to build the new ballpark, then gutted the team.
I wonder if there are cost-effective fixes Oakland could do to the Coliseum that would avoid things like the locker room fiasco this weekend, but they don't because they want the excuse to push for another stadium. Letting raw sewage cover the floors is extreme, but it certainly gets people's attention.
My favorite part of the story though is the following...
[quote]The apology and complaints came a day after a raw sewage leak forced the A's and visiting Seattle Mariners to shower together in the Oakland Raiders' clubhouse...
That's my kind of locker room fantasy.
- MLB Attendance Report - 2013
- Yasiel Puig in the All Star Game even though he's only played 20 games???
I pay very little attention to the All Star Game generally. Last summer I watched the game and all the related events because I was excited to see some of the new guys making a big splash - Mike Trout, Bryce Harper, and to a lesser degree Mark Trumbo.
For me it's an exhibition just to check out some of stars. I don't watch expecting to see a thrilling game filled with awesome playmaking. So I may not have the reverence for the game that others do.
Because of that, I say have Puig there since he's the latest "next big thing" going right now.
- The Racing Sausages that entertain during Milwaukee Brewers games celebrate their 20th anniversary tomorrow.
Their fan base isn't the largest in the league, but their influence is broad...I'm looking at you, Nats Racing Presidents!
- Puig is the buzz player of the summer.
- [quote]The Racing Sausages that entertain during Milwaukee Brewers games celebrate their 20th anniversary tomorrow.
AND we just had two very important gay court decisions? Coincidence?
- The Mariners will hoist a Gay Pride flag in their stadium this Sunday. Apparently this is a first for a major league ballpark.
I've never gone to a 'gay day' at any stadium, but I assumed that they might fly a Pride flag during those events.
Mariners are hosting the Cubbies that day, so I thought maybe the game would be on WGN, but WGN is carrying the White Sox game that day instead.
- The bitch fest between A-Rod and Brian Cashman is almost as good as Serena Williams vs. Maria Sharapova catfight.
Now A-Rod's camp had leaked a story that the Yankees don't want him to play with the Yankees again. Duh!! But it's interesting that the "source" says A-Rod believes that the Yankees are trying to keep him classified as medically unable to play because they want to have insurance (MLB workman's comp?) to pay the majority of his ridiculous salary.
That's not so unreasonable. Maybe that's buying some time for the Yankees to turn every trick possible to get out of their contract with him.
But again, I find it difficult to feel bad for either of these parties.
- What's everyone's opinion on the All-Star results? For me, it just continues the belief that many fans treat the game as a "favorites" contest rather than playing ability. Most of the players deserve to be there but there a few who I wouldn't have chosen and think there are better players who should have had the positions instead.
- Nothing really jumped out at me as a glaring omission, r140. But I’d haven’t reviewed the stats of all the guys on the teams.
The majority of complaints seem to be that the Athletics 3rd baseman Josh Donaldson was left out. He’s one of those players whose name I hardly knew and I had no idea was having a great season, so what do I know?
Yeah the fan vote makes it a popularity contest to some degree. But this year there are lots of well-liked players that you’d normally expect to make the team, but they are having subpar years and were appropriately left off the rosters.
Some of those names that jump to mind – Albert Pujols, Felix Hernandez, Ryan Howard, Kung Fu Panda, Josh Hamilton, Ryan Braun, & Matt Kemp.
Since popular guys like those didn’t make the cut in lieu of dudes with more impressive numbers, the rosters have at least some credibility.
At least Derek Jeter (who hasn’t played an inning) didn’t make the list. I’d be curious to know how many votes he got though.
- I know early in the voting, Jeter showed up as number 5 among short stops. I am not sure if he dropped down as more people figured he had not even stepped on the field.
- What day is this exhibition game anyway? Next week Tuesday?
Homerun derby on Monday?
- Yes R142. HR Derby on Monday, All-Star Game on Tuesday.
- Jarred Cosart, the Astros rookie that had his first major league start tonight was really impressive.
Going 8+ scoreless innings in his first ever big league game is good enough, but he also had a no-hitter into the 7th and finished the night with only 2 hits, no runs.
And this was against the super hot (until tonight) Devil Rays to stop their 8-game winning streak.
As a bonus, he's kinda cute too.
Though your post was nearly a week ago, I recently heard talk that Los Angeles Dodgers' Matt Kemp, with his injury last year, may be entering the twilight of his career. That more damage from that collision was done to his shoulder than initially considered.
About a month ago or so, MLB Network (or someone, I'm not sure) suggested this year is when to move Ryan Howard out of Philadelphia [Phillies] because he is not going to be a great benefit to the team (that he used to be).
- Jeff Francoeur got picked up by the Giants?!?!
That was news I missed this week. I had to google it after watching the Lincecum no-hitter last night. At the end of the game when the team swarmed Tim to show him some love, there was a Francoeur jersey in the middle of it.
It was a surprise to me when he was released last week, but I don’t pay enough attention to the Royals to have known that he was scuffling. He’s such a likeable guy, but it was a lot easier to keep up with him when he was with Atlanta or the Mets.
I wonder if someone with the Giants can help him with his awareness at the plate (probably not), but I also wonder just how much playing time he’ll get with San Fran. But he was in the starting lineup today and still showed off that great arm with at least one solid throw to the plate.
Will we see more of him after the All Star break?
The reason that I watched that Saturday game though was Big Time Timmy Jim. It was a pleasure to see him do well because it has seemed like his days of noteworthy pitching (noteworthy for a positive reason) were a thing of the past. When he was pulled as a starter late last season, you had to wonder about his future.
The top speed on his fast ball will likely never come back, but it sure seemed like he’s figuring out to work with his offspeed stuff to keep batters off balance.
There were only a few hints at wildness during the game last night – Buster having to stand up from his squat a couple time to stop a ball from sailing overhead. Seeing how in synch those 2 were with each other was good too, and made for a faster game. It must have happened at some point, but I can’t remember Tim shaking off any signs from Buster.
Anyway, good for Tim. If this improvement is permanent, now he and Barry Zito (although he had a stinker today) have both resurrected themselves by becoming more crafty pitchers while with the Giants.
But today on Baseball Tonight Curt Schilling said that he’s convinced they Giants allowing Tim to finish that game it’s a good indication they aren’t intending to sign him again next year. He thinks that letting him to throw 148 pitches in that game means they aren’t protecting his arm like they would do for a pitcher that they intend to have for several years. Schilling makes some sense.
- Great Lincecum animated gif
- Who won the Home Run Derby?
- That would be a shame about Matt Kemp, r145.
I hadn’t heard that his injury might be that serious. But with the impressive start Puig has had, it must take the sting out of Dodgers fans at a decline or possible loss of Kemp.
If Ryan Howard wants to extend his career, at some point he may be best served getting traded to an American League team where he can just DH. Although it would be nice if he could be one of those guys that eventually retires having only played for one team.
His injuries must make teams hesitate, but I wouldn’t be surprised if the Phillies get asked about him being some part of a trade deal.
- Yoenis Cespedes from the A's won it, r148. He and Bryce Harper were the final two and Cespedes eventually took the title.
The whole thing was kind of a snooze.
And the NL won the Celebrity/Retiree softball game...which was kind of short on "celebrities."
Mike Piazza looks so different that I barely recognized him.
- Sorry r130, I didn’t see your question until now.
I’m cool with Zack. At the time I might have still been worked up about the huge brawl with the Padres that started when he threw at (my opinion) Carlos Quentin earlier this season, but it's all good now.
I’ve respected him as a pitcher for years though. How could you not? But he is a difficult person to warm up to when you see/hear him being interviewed.
When he was with the Royals I did get that much exposure to him, but I’ve heard him talk (or struggle to talk) plenty since he’s been with the Brewers, Angels, and now Dodgers.
I understand his social anxiety disorder, but being aware of it doesn’t make it any easier to find him a warm or pleasant guy. The very small handful of people that I’ve know like that in real life (with blank affect) I’ve mostly avoided unnecessary contact with because it’s so uncomfortable for someone like me (very outgoing) to interact with them. But that’s my own shit and I'm aware of it.
But he’s a great pitcher and a solid batter and really good fielder. I’d have him on my team without hesitation.
He did piss me off though with how he responded in that game after he threw at Quentin. Greinke has hit him before and Carlos was expecting another plunking. But Zack, who never expresses any emotion of any kind, suddenly had a reaction that day.
Instead of waving it off or nodding or shaking his head or looking skyward or hanging his head (or any of a dozen things he could have done to fake like he wasn’t throwing at Quentin intentionally), he stared him down and barked something back to him.
If he hadn’t done that – if he’d picked any one of those other responses – Carlos would have just shouted his peace and walked to first base. But instead Greinke fueled the situation and ultimately got his ass kicked (or collarbone broken) as a result.
The one day he chooses to display an emotional reaction and it has to be something like that.
- All-Star Bump
- The game itself was sort of uneventful. Seeing Matt Harvey take out Robinson Cano was fun though.
Actually I thought the tribute (as it was) that the other players gave Mariano Rivera was really great. Giving him a couple of minutes out on the mound with the field cleared of all players was a nice tribute.
And Joe Buck shut the fuck up during that whole thing. Bonus!
I actually wondered if he was off getting a beer or hitting on some teenage girls during the Rivera thing. Fox didn't go to commercial like they normally would have done, but maybe Fox didn't tell him they were staying on air cause they wanted him away for a couple minutes. HaHa
But at the very end of the broadcast night when he was saying nice stuff about his retiring partner, I did sort of hope that Joe was gonna kiss Tim McCarver. They must be saving that for the end of the World Series.
- MLB Suspends All-Star Ryan Braun for Remainder of Season
July 22, 2013 | 02:56PM PT
Stuart Oldham, News Editor
Major League Baseball has suspended all-star infielder Ryan Braun for violating the Joint Drug Prevention/Treatment Program.
Braun was recently linked to a recent list of MLB players allegeldy using human growth hormone and anabolic steroids. Yankees star Alex Rodriguez was also named.
No stranger to steroid rumors, Braun successfully appealed the league's 50-game suspension in 2012 when he tested positive for performance enhancing drugs after being named MVP of the National League.
Braun’s suspension is the latest black eye for the struggling sport of Major League Baseball.
- That's one...
- The slow motion replay of Tim Hudson having his ankle fractured by EY Jr. tonight is one of those things that can turn the stomach of an easily squeamish person.
- Twins catcher Joe Mauer left the team to be present for the birth of his twins. I am starting to think it might not happen between us...
Time flies, it does not seem that long ago he was the high school phenom, now he is 30.
- Our Twin's having twins?
- R156 in the slomo, you can see Hudson's ankle bend at a ninety degree angle as its stepped on. Ouch indeed!
- I wonder if the Braves would get into the market for Jake Peavy now that Hudson is down for the year.
Peavy is one of my fave players and for selfish reasons (like I'd be able to see him pitch more often & for a team that I care about), I hope the Braves acquire him. He's no slouch as a hitter either, so he should get back on an NL team...although I guess running bases makes him more susceptible to injury again. Hmmm.
- Mike & Mike just said that Yankees and Cubs have agree to a deal. Alfonso Soriano is going back to NYC! Wow.
- Speedy recovery to Tim Hudson from that injury. One of my favorite baseball hunks, the gorgeous man just oozes testosterone.
- I think the Cubs are having a fire sale. The Twins should as well - but really no one anyone would want to buy except Perkins the closer who they have at a really good price, and Mauer whose contract really only makes sense in Minnesota where he sells tickets and jerseys.
- Haha, time to dig out that Yankees Soriano jersey I got for Christmas in 2003.
- At 37, Alfonso Soriano is not desired. Last year, New York Yankees also acquired then-39-year-old Ichiro Suzuki.
What is with this team?
- Zack Greinke has finally given a comment to reporters exposing his harsh opinion on his former teammate Ryan Braun's suspension...
[quote]The main thing is, yeah, he lied to us. He forced us to lie for him, threw people under the bus in order to help himself out and didn't care, blamed others for his mistakes and it’s just a lot of things you don’t expect from people.
The one good thing about Zack's social anxiety disorder is that sometimes when he does make public comments, nothing holds him back from saying what's really on his mind.
Much respect to him for giving voice to the feeling that other teammates of Braun don't have the cojones to say.
- I was wondering if the shorty, and bow-tied Ken Rosenthal was a homo, but it looks like he is married with children.
Matt Vasgersian is one I've always wondered about too. And lately, Buster Olney too. Those boys are both getting up in years, and neither has been married - at least from what I can find.
- ---Fat chance the Yankees will do something similar when A-Rod gets suspended---
The Brewers are going to give every fan at every home game in August a voucher for food or merchandise in the stadium. It's estimated that this will cost the organization roughly $3.6M which is slightly more than the $3.1M salary that they won't have to pay Ryan Braun for the remainder of the year.
The vouchers will be for $10, and I just looked online at the prices for tickets to upcoming Brewers games. The cheapest price of some weekday games (not counting Uecker seats) is $9. So theoretically people can get more back in vendor money than they paid for their ticket. Sweet!
In general I like this idea because it related back to something discussed earlier in the thread. If the teams still had to forfeit the contracted salaries of players that get drug suspensions, it's a small way to make them take at least some responsibility for rewarding these guys with big contracts.
My suggestion was that money could go to a local charity, but I'm happy with Milwaukee voluntarily deciding to use it buy/maintain some good will among their fans.
- Damn! Jake Peavy is going to the Red Sox.
Not what I hoped for, but at least he'll be with a contender.
- The Dodgers are taking a chance on the Giants former closer, Brian Wilson. It will be good to have him and his charisma back in the game.
The Dodgers do make some questionable moves though - trading for Carlos Marmol????
Wilson is a 31-year old free-agent coming back from Tommy John surgery, so I'll bet they got him for a fair price. I wasn't able to find anything specific about what he'll get paid, but the contract is only for the remainder of this season.
- Posted July 31, 2013
Report: MLB prepared to ban A-Rod for life, suspend eight others
By Scooby Axson
Major League Baseball commissioner Bud Selig is preparing to ban New York Yankees third baseman Alex Rodriguez for life before the weekend, USA Today reports.
MLB also plans on suspending about eight others, although no announcement is expected until at least Thursday or Friday.
Rodriguez's attorney, David Cornwell, said earlier this week that his client will appeal any suspension, no matter how long the ban is.
The other eight players are expected to receive 50-game bans, and most are considering accepting the discipline without appealing.
But ESPN reported late Wednesday night that Rodriguez and MLB are negotiating a possible suspension after the league was given evidence to support the charge that Rodriguez interfered with the investigation.
As many as 15-20 players were originally linked to Biogenesis, a South Florida clinic that MLB investigated for providing performance-enhancing drugs. Milwaukee Brewers left fielder Ryan Braun has already been suspended without pay for the remainder of the season for his link to the clinic.
More from USA Today:
[quote]Rob Manfred, Major League Baseball executive vice president of labor relations, informed the Major League Players Association officials on Tuesday of their findings and suspensions. The players and their representatives will decide whether they will file an appeal or accept the penalties, which would all but end their regular season with barely 50 games remaining.
[quote]Rodriguez, who used performance-enhancing drugs from 2010-2012, according to Biogenesis documents, has never been punished for doping. Players who violate the drug policy are subject to a 50-game suspension.
[quote]Texas Rangers outfielder Nelson Cruz, Detroit Tigers shortstop Jhonny Peralta and San Diego Padres shortstop Everth Cabrera are also likely to face suspensions because of their involvement with Biogenesis.
- What an anti-climactic final trade day. Was hoping for at least one really big deal to be announced in the final hours.
I suppose the Diamondbacks/Padres deal sending Ian Kennedy to San Diego was the biggest thing to talk about today. At least that wasn't one that I heard any speculation about ahead of time.
- I think Arizona made a mistake trading Ian Kennedy. But, hey, at least he gets to play in California rather than staying with a rancid, racist Republican state's MLB franchise.
- I agree with R168. In fact, the Yankees will pretend that A-Rod never played for the team.
- I said A-Rod will never play for the Yankees again months ago - I knew they had enough of him. He probably deserves his own thread at this point but what a miserable disaster for everyone. Nobody looks good - he did not kill anybody, why is he being treated like a pariah?
- How is/was A-Rod perceived by teammates and other players in the league? Do they think he's aloof and awkward, an asshole and/or a weirdo?
He doesn't seem to have any defenders in sports media (even before the PED scandals), and I'm not sure I've ever met a fan who is truly passionate about his play. My grandmother, who used to joke about making potato salad and baking pies for her favorite Yankees, which was just about everyone, hated A-Rod. Apparently, she believed he spent too much time with the ladies and not enough time focusing on baseball.
My friends and I had quite a few laughs about the weird picture below.
- Situations like this one expressed today by Dan Meyer (who came out on the losing end when competing against the now suspended Antonio Bastardo for a spot in the Phillies 2011 bullpen) are what will (or have) swayed the way the players view the current agreement on drug penalties.
We hear plenty from journalists who offer up their opinion about the scandal. But now more and more players seem willing to speak out.
Yeah, they say they are disappointed with the questionable ethics displayed by the accused - that's always been kind of a 'safe' comment to make. But even bigger and probably more influential is the acknowledgment by guys who choose to abide by the rules that they are losing jobs (roster spots) to cheaters.
What a challenge it is to their long-instilled mentality of supporting your teammates no matter what. The guys are finally coming around to say out loud what they might have been thinking to themselves for years. The cheaters aren't making decisions to help their team, they are doing it for selfish reasons. They take jobs (and get bigger contract money) out of the hands of the guys that play by the rules.
This fall it won't be surprising to hear that players push for increasing the penalties to something like a 1-year suspension for a first offense and a permanent ban for a second.
It's just one piece of the puzzle, but it's a significant shift. Guaranteed contracts is a whole other ball game.
- Not cool, San Francisco!
Somebody in the stands threw a banana at Adam Jones when the Orioles were in town for the inter-league series this weekend.
I'm really surprised that something like this would happen in San Fran. It doesn't seem to reflect the general diversity of the area.
- R176 -- I heard an interview that said many of his teammates thought he was kind of an awkward phony. That he would try to pretend to be one of the guys, but it was never quite right and seemed fake. He would probably make a great dissertation subject for some psych grad student.
- The fan that threw the banana at Adam Jones has told his story.
According to this dude (a Giants fan) there was no racial motivation in his action and he wasn't targeting Jones.
He's only an average asshole that throws shit onto the field at games. In this case it was just an unfortunate coincidence that what he chose to toss was a banana and that it landed in the general proximity of Adam Jones.
- Bud Selig and the Major League Baseball owners have finally been dragged into the modern era and will embrace a system for instant replay review of questionable plays staring next season.
People familiar with how reviews are handled in pro tennis matches will find similarities with the new MLB approach.
Each manager is allowed 3 challenges per game.
One must be used during the first 6 innings (an unused challenge will not carry over) and the remaining 2 are for the 7th inning on through however many innings the game goes.
If they are successful with their appeal (meaning review of the instant replay gets the call reversed in their favor), the use of that challenge doesn't count against their remaining total.
Balls and strikes will still not be a reviewable issue.
- Charlie Manuel is out as the Phillies' manager. Ryan Sandberg steps in as interim manager.
- Auto-correct apparently doesn't like the name "Ryne"
- Manuel had a good, long, mostly successful run with the Phillies. They moved up the date on the transition that otherwise looked like it was going to happen at the end of the season. But it says a lot that they had that emotional joint news conference today and they want to keep Charlie involved in the organization in some way.
I wonder if they gave him the heads-up and hoped he'd choose to announce his own retirement instead of going out this way. But he sure seems like a stubborn ol' guy and he still wants to manage a team.
If A-Rod did still maintained a little goodwill among some of the other guys he plays with r176, that's gotta be taking a hit with the newest news. As part of the investigation that's been going on for months, he offered up some names of other players he knew were getting steroids from Biogensis - and at least one of those names he gave was his teammate.
The last people that might have supported him are the guys in his current locker room, but not when he breaks 'code' and tries to turn them in to save himself. It takes a lot to get a current teammate to say anything but positive stuff about a guy. This is the kind of thing that will do it.
Ryan Braun was another one that A-Rod fingered (allegedly). But more news on him today too.
Sounds like he is ready to make a public statement coming clean (at least partially) about his use and cover up. That's at least a first step toward recovering at least a little bit of respect.
But apparently he is only ready to say that he used PEDs for a limited time in 2011. According to a lawsuit filed against him by his own friend, he's been using since his days at the U (Univ. of Miami). The friend is suing for defamation after he claims that he helped Braun cover up his steroid use.
If some of the stuff that friend charges it true, Ryan Braun is just an nasty and deceitful a character as A-Rod.
- Miguel Tejada of the Kansas City Royals given 105-game drugs ban
MLB announces suspension for 2002 AL MVP winner, after two positive tests for banned amphetamine Adderall
Martin Pengelly and agencies; theguardian.com, Saturday 17 August 2013 14.51 EDT
The Kansas City Royals infielder Miguel Tejada has been suspended for 105 games, after testing positive for an amphetamine. It has been reported that he twice tested positive for Adderall.
The 39-year-old had previously tested positive under the league's amphetamine policy, so he was subject to a 25-game ban for a second test and an 80-game suspension for a third, both of which occurred while playing for the Royals this season.
Major League Baseball announced the suspension, which is effective immediately, on Saturday afternoon. Tejada, who is on the Royals' 60-day disabled list with a calf strain, joined Kansas City in the offseason, having spent the previous year on a minor-league contract with the Baltimore Orioles. In 2002, when playing for the Oakland Athletics, he won the American League Most Valuable Player award.
A six-time All Star selection, Tejada won the 2004 Home Run Derby and played for the champion Dominican Republic team in the 2013 World Baseball Classic. This season, he has hit .288/.317/.378 with three home runs and 20 RBIs in 53 games.
Last month, MLB handed down a number of suspensions as a result of the Biogenesis investigation, into players linked with an anti-ageing clinic in Florida. Among those banned were Ryan Braun of the Milwaukee Brewers, who was given a 65-game suspension, and the New York Yankees third baseman Alex Rodriguez, who is playing on under appeal against a 211-game ban.
- Atlanta, as usual, no class whatsoever.
- OK this is the most appropriate thread so I'll post here-anyone else annoyed as fuck that espn is obsessed with covering all these damn little league games? I have no problem with the kids playing but unless I know anyone on one of those many teams (and I don't), I simply don't give a shit. Do we need hours and hours coverage of 12 year olds playing little league?
- Justin Morneau and Joe Mauer are finally broken up.
The Pirates continue to makes trades in an effort to bolster their chances at finally returning to the postseason. They got Marlon Byrd and John Buck from the Mets earlier in the week, and now they trade for the long-time Twins first baseman.
Like Mauer, Morneau has been a staple in the Twin Cities for so long that it would have been nice if they both could have finished out their careers with the team.
Hopefully the trades work out for Pittsburgh and they manage to hold their position. I'd actually like them to finish on top of the division, but that's just a personal thing cause I want the Cards to lose.
- While I understand the move, it is kind of sad to see Mauer and Morneau split up. There is an outside chance they could resign Justin in the off-season [he is entering free agency], but I think his time might be done with the Twins. I am guessing this will speed up Mauer's transition to first base (esp. since he just got his first concussion.)
- Were Mauer and Morneau roommates at one time?
- For R190.
- Looks like that was at least a 2 bedroom house. I wonder what they did with the extra room.
- That ALMOST perfect game from Petit of the Giants last night was fantastic.
Hunter Pence probably feels awful about not making the final catch. But he really did what he could and looked like he was going all out to try to make a remarkable play - which it would have had to be to complete the game.
Even though I don't have personal connections to either team, I'm excited for Pirates and Royals fans for the possibility of making the postseason after so many years out of the equation.
Barring some catastrophic collapse, the Pirates will be in - possibly winning their division which is ever more special, but the Royals are a long shot. Still, it's kind of fun to see them on the board as a possible Wild Card winner. Too bad for Kansas City the teams they'd need to leap frog are fairly capable contenders.
- Jacoby Ellsbury is injured! Noooooooo!
- For a few years now I've noted to myself (and mentioned it on the DL baseball thread) that Joey Votto and Jay Bruce seem to be almost constantly together in the dugout during games.
Last night ESPN carried the Reds/Dodgers game and Orel Hershiser (I think, but it might have been one of the other guys in the booth) mentioned the exact same thing.
After Jay hit his second homer of the night off of Kershaw (impressive!), they had the camera on him off-and-on for a while. Sure enough, he and Joey sat facing each other engaged in a decent conversation for quite a bit of time. That's what prompted the comment from Hershiser. I'm glad he said it and it wasn't just my imagination working overtime.
I used to think it was all about Bruce picking the brain of the more veteran Votto about the game. But that was years ago and Jay is a fairly seasoned player now. Still their friendship continues.
Jay got married last off-season, so I'm assuming the relationship with Joey is nothing more than friendship, but who knows for sure?
- Good point, r196.
- r195, I think this is what you're talking about
- That is a decent example r198.
Tonight I'm wondering how Cubs fans are feeling about Alfonso Soriano suddently becoming an offensive superstar again now that he's back with the Yanks.
- They're sitting very close to each other on the bench, even though there is plenty of room
- Is it time to put Derek Jeter out to pasture?
He's done for the season again with the ankle injury.
- Joe Mauer also possibly out for the rest of the season with a new setback in his concussion recovery.
His news isn't as much of an impact though as the Twins aren't battling for a playoff spot.
- Interesting poll: Baseball fans were asked "Who is the face of baseball?"
- Interesting r203. I particularly like how the article breaks down the demographics of the people polled.
It's not surprising that A-Rod tops the list this year. Even when he wasn't playing for 2/3 of the season, his name was in the press more than any other. So for all the wrong reasons, he's the first guy a lot of people probably think of when asked.
That's highlighted deeper in the story where they ask if A-Rod represents baseball in a positive or negative manner. Of course he got an overwhelming vote for negative.
Before reading your link I came up with my own answer to the question. It was tough because the names that pop into mind first are my personal favorite players, but they aren't all necessarily of the right status to be considered the 'face of the game.'
But I picked one of them that I think represents MLB well enough that he could be worthy of the title.
My choice (who finished 4th on the ESPN poll)- Mike Trout.
- A security personnel (L) tackles a man who ran onto the field in his underwear as he tries to steal second base during the fifth inning of a MLB American League baseball game between the Texas Rangers and Tampa Bay Rays in St. Petersburg, Florida, September 16, 2013.
- Both New York Yankees' Alex Rodriguez and Derek Jeter should retire. Same can be said for a good fraction of that team. Rodriguez and Jeter will play it out into they can't play it any further. Chicago White Sox's Paul Konerko looks like he's about ready. Colorado Rockies' Todd Helton has made the right decision. And it is best to go while you're exit is still noteworthy. Use Vladimir Guerrero as an example of gone and [mostly] forgotten. Unfortuntately, Grady Sizemore was done some time ago.
- Yankees' Andy Pettitte announces his retirement
- "Tropicana Field: Has over 40,000 great empty seats for every Rays game"
LOL! Seeing the Rays play on tv is hilarious. The stadium is so empty - a showing of After Earth would get more people.
- MLB Attendance Report - 2013
RK\t TEAM\t GMS TOTAL\tAVG\t
30 (out of 30) Tampa Bay 77 1,418,414\t18,420
- Alex Rodriguez breaks all time grand slam record held by Lou Gehrig.
- "Alex Rodriguez breaks all time grand slam record held by Lou Gehrig."
Fuck you, A-Roid.
Lou Gehrig's ghost
- I don't take seriously Alex Rodriguez or Barry Bonds "having broken records." They're frauds.
- Oakland A's just clinched the AL West - yay!
- Mariano Rivera had said he was going to retire last year, but then he got injured and didn't want to end his career that way. I imagine Derek Jeter wouldn't want to retire after just playing 17 games this season. However, who knows if he'll be healthy enough to play full-time again. A-Rod and Jeter are two very expensive DHs.
I think it would be cool to see Mariano play an inning in center field the last day of the season, assuming the Yankees are not making a miracle run this last week.
- Jeter and A-Roid should have retired with Rivera and Pettitte. They're getting too old for this shit!
- I hope Oakland had a long champagne celebration in their locker room. It could help wash the residual raw sewage away.
- ^ I wanna take a champagne shower with Jed Lowrie
- Twins shut down Mauer for rest of season
Associated Press; JON KRAWCZYNSKI 23 minutes ago
MINNEAPOLIS (AP) — The Minnesota Twins are playing it safe with All-Star catcher Joe Mauer after having seen up close the damage concussions can do to a player.
The Twins shut Mauer down for the rest of the season on Monday, saying it wasn't worth the risk to try to get him back on the field with the team far out of contention and Mauer still experiencing some symptoms of a concussion he sustained on Aug. 19.
The Twins have seven games left in what has been another miserable season for them, and Mauer's injury only adds to the disappointment. He was hurt when he took a foul ball off his mask against the New York Mets and hasn't played since. Mauer said he has seen big improvement over the last week, but there are still some lingering symptoms, including sensitivity to light, that tell him it's not worth risking a setback by trying to get back for the final seven games of the season.
"It's frustrating that I'm not on the field and not able to play the game that I love," Mauer said after a workout at Target Field. "But I have to take care of this and make sure that I'm healthy and ready to go next year."
One of Mauer's close friends, Justin Morneau, saw a series of concussions derail his All-Star career a few years ago. Former center fielder Denard Span also struggled with them at one point, so the Twins have become particularly informed on treating players with the brain injury. The last thing they want is for Mauer, the face of the franchise who will make $23 million a year for the next five seasons, to experience similar difficulties.
General manager Terry Ryan said Mauer hasn't experienced any setbacks and that the organization was just being extra cautious with its franchise player.
"As we all know, those things are very touchy and sensitive," Ryan said. "We've gone through this with Justin once before. I just don't want any setbacks and neither does he and neither does our medical staff."
Mauer said he's spoken with Morneau, who was traded to the Pittsburgh a few weeks ago. But he's also quick to point out that he believes he's on the right track to a full recovery and plans on being ready for spring training in February.
"He's checking in on me and seeing how I'm doing," Mauer said. "I just want to make sure everybody knows I've had some good days in a row and I shouldn't have any problems lingering. I'm just going to try to keep getting better."
Mauer was still struggling with considerable symptoms on the team's previous homestand. But he said he has made significant progress in the last week while the team was away on a West Coast road trip. He went through another workout before the Twins opened a series against the Detroit Tigers on Monday, but rather than have the issue hanging over the final seven games of the season, the Twins decided to bring some finality to the situation.
The injury has reintroduced talk about moving Mauer from catcher to first base to reduce the wear and tear on his body. Over the past two years, the Twins have tried to keep Mauer's bat in the lineup as much as possible by having him play more at first base and as the designated hitter. Mauer hit .324 this season, which was good for third in the AL when the day began.
Mauer is determined to remain behind the plate and Ryan said he anticipated that Mauer would continue to catch next season, but it's an issue that will be discussed this winter.
"I have every intention of coming back and catching. That's what I do," Mauer said. "But right now I have to take care of the situation so I can. I look forward to getting back out on the field next year as a catcher and whatever else they need me to do."
- Joe Mauer
- Phillies pitcher Roy Halladay didn't last the entire first inning against the Marlins tonight due to tightness in his shoulder (same one where he had surgery) and lack of control.
- Halladay could be another veteran we don't see play after this season.
He doesn't seem like he'd be ready for retirement at all, but sometimes even the best players don't get the luxury of making their own decision on that.
- I suspect Mauer will catch a little next year, so he can catch in the all-star game that Minnesota is hosting next year, but I think by 2015 he will be a full-time first baseman. I don't think he has the frame to catch well into his 30's, plus now there are the concussion concerns.
- Does a 0.0 Nielsen rating actually mean that ZERO of the people with Nielsen boxes (or however the Nielsen households are counted) have watched a TV program? Or does it just mean that the number that watched is so low that they round down to 0.0?
I'm asking because of the attached story. The Houston Astros got a 0.0 rating in the Houston TV market during their game against the Indians Sunday afternoon.
The story says it might be the first time in the history of MLB on TV that a team had a zero rating in its home market.
One thing the story doesn't mention - the Texans were playing the Ravens at the same time and of course that NFL game got a huge local rating and probably pulled potential casual viewers of the Astros.
- "Or does it just mean that the number that watched is so low that they round down to 0.0?"
- Do the Astros have their own station like YES for the Yankees? Reason I ask is that, if they don't, the games are blacked out in attempt to force people to go to the stadium.
I have a friend who lives in LA (Louisiana). He can watch most TEX and HOU baseball games EXCEPT when either team is playing a big-market team like the Yankees. Forget the fact that he's something like a 5-7 hour drive from either team's home stadium.
Also, if MLB network is hosting the games, they are blacked out locally. When Yankee games are being broadcast on YES and MLBN, YES has the rights so I watch them on that channel and another East Coast team is broadcast on MLBN.
There are times when the Mets/Braves games are being broadcast on TBS but are blacked in the NY area if the game is on Ch 11.
- The 'Stros have a cable deal with the local Comcast Sportsnet Houston channel.
The 0.0 game was broadcast on that Comcast channel, not any of others that carry games nationally that r225 mentions.
Out of curiosity I tried to find info on how the average ratings have been for them in Houston this season. I assumed the viewership numbers would be taking a dip as their terrible season rolled on.
According to the attached, they set a new low rating record the previous week when they played the Angels. That was a 0.4 Nielsen. The real kicker? More people were watching the WNBA game than the Astros/Angels. The horror!!!!!
- Go to deadspin.com and do a search for "astros"
They love mocking the Astros and their terrible ratings
- The Cincinnati Reds and Pittsburgh Pirates both earned a playoff berth.
Joey Votto makes Momma's mussy moist
- Speaking of Deadspin, their top story when I just checked the site is about Ryan Braun has been removed from the cover of a book about Jewish pro athletes.
The story itself isn't all that big a deal, but some of the comments from readers are pretty funny. I think the gist of the humor is that there are so few Jewish athletes to celebrate in the first place.
Also, I'm glad that the Reds and Pirates both finally secured their spots, although not for the same reason as r228...apparently.
I'd be much happier if one of those teams (preferably Cincy) could overtake the Red Birds for the division top spot though. It's still possible.
- "More people were watching the WNBA game than the Astros/Angels."
So there are more lesbians in Houston watching the WNBA game than Astros fans willing to watch?
Meant to add a comment about this last week, but it slipped my mind.
(Not yet publicly admitted) Steroid abuser Brady Anderson said he was thrilled to watch (possible covert steroid abuser) Chris Davis break his PED-powered Orioles single season homerun record last week.
Brady says he and Chris have been close since Davis became an Oriole. That's nice.
I wish Brady would come out about several things.
- [quote]Speaking of Deadspin, their top story when I just checked the site is about Ryan Braun has been removed from the cover of a book about Jewish pro athletes.
[quote]The story itself isn't all that big a deal, but some of the comments from readers are pretty funny. I think the gist of the humor is that there are so few Jewish athletes to celebrate in the first place.
I was instantly reminded if a scene from "Airplane!"
Stewardess: "Would you like something to read?"
Passenger: "Do you have anything light?"
Stewardess: "How about this leaflet, 'Famous Jewish Sports Legends'?"
- Brady Anderson was juicin'?
- Glad the Yankees aren't doing that well - I fucking hate the Yankees.
- Sometimes stuff chokes me up a little.
Tonight was Todd Helton's last game at Coors Field. They gave him a horse which is cool (if you like horses, I guess). But the neat thing was his kids coming out on the field and getting to pull the first base bag up and take it home with them.
ESPN showed a clip of that during the Dodgers/Giants game on right now. This game is likely the last that Barry Zito will pitch for the Giants, and they showed a good blow-up from him when he got pulled from the game. Looks like he is likely to get the win though, so all is good. Once he cooled down, he got some love from other teammates and coaches.
- Bud Selig is finally gonna hang up his hat - after next season.
Love him or hate him, he's been the commish for as long as I've been a fan of MLB so it will be weird to see someone else in that job.
How do they go about filling that job? I'm imagining that the team owners vote for the next commissioner, but it's just a guess.
Also, who would be in the candidate pool for replacements?
- This Saturday and Sunday (final regular season games) the mlb.com website is going to allow non-subscribers to watch any games (blackout restrictions still in effect) for free.
So people can check out games that they might not watch regularly, or won't get on their local cable network.
For example, people might want to watch the Yankees/Astros (ugh) game to see Mariano Rivera's final appearance. Even if they don't need him for the save, I'm guessing they'll let him make an appearance.
Rays, Indians, and Rangers will likely still be battling to see which teams secure the wild card, so those matchups could be worth checking out too.
The mlb site is pretty cool because you can switch between any games (or picture-in-picture them) not blacked out, and you can use DVR type functionality to pause or rewind. For members they let you choose whether you want to listen to the home or away team of broadcasters too, but I think when they do these "free" games, you don't get that choice.
Houston Astros - the team and their games - are on Comcast SportsNet Houston.
I am a subscriber of DirecTV which does not carry Comcast SportsNet Houston. (I'm not aware whether it is available from mini-dish rival Dish Network.) DirecTV also doesn't have Comcast SportsNet Northwest and, as has been the case with lots of Comcast's cable competitors, we also don't have Comcast SportsNet Philadelphia, home of Philadelphia Phillies. (There was a report some time ago that Phillies may launch its own channel. Which would piss off the greedy motherfuckers @ Comcast/NBCUniversal. That will be happening next year with Los Angeles Dodgers. Their new channel will be named SportsNet LA.)
Forgive me here, for the digression, but ......
I think there is bad blood between DirecTV and Comcast/NBCUniversal, because DirecTV hasn't added an HD for a Comcast/NBCUniversal brand since April 2012 when E! Entertainment Television HD finally came in. No Style Network HD (which this past Monday became Esquire Network). No Oxygen HD. No PBS Kids Sprout HD. No TV One HD. No Universal Sports HD. (Except for Universal Sports, all the rest are carried in HD by just about any provider you name.)
[italic]According to Wikipedia.org:[/italic] G4 is just about gone. Time Warner Cable got rid of G4 this past Monday right as Style became Esquire. Verizon Fios will be dropping it around October 1. And G4 - which used to be TechTV (and was ruined once Comcast acquired it) - will likely go away for good.
[italic]Back to MLB.com:[/italic] I am thrilled my home team, Detroit Tigers, won the AL Central for their third consecutive season. But I wish Pittsburgh Pirates would have won the NL Central. But I'm glad the Bucs won a postseason berth. (The NL wild card, including the playoff game, will come out of the Central.)
- Although what you say about the Pirates will likely prove to be correct, r238, you are jumping the gun just a little. They still have a shot at taking the NL Central Division title.
As of this morning, Pittsburgh is the only team that could still catch the Cardinals (Reds have to settle for their Wild Card slot) and tie St. Louis for the division lead.
Hope is not entirely lost, but the Cubs would have to sweep the Red Birds this weekend and the Pirates would have to do the same to the Reds. Neither situation has a high probability, but strange things have happened before.
Anyway, I'm just saying you are speaking too soon by saying the Pirates haven't locked up the top spot yet since that hasn't been determined.
Personally I'd be very pleased if they could take it.
- An addendum to my post at r237.
mlb.com has added today's games to the free offering also. So non-subscribers can use the site to watch any game they want (with blackout restrictions) for the last 3 days of the regular season.
If there are Monday and Tuesday(!) tiebreaker games required (like if Pittsburgh and St. Louis tie for the top spot in the division - or worse, if the Rays, Rangers, & Orioles tie for the AL wild cards), they will be broadcast on TBS.
MLB's plan to handle the possible 3-way tie for the AL wild cards is detailed in the attached.
- Andy Pettitte pitches the Yankees past the Astros in his final start
Bill Baer, Sep 28, 2013, 10:05 PM EDT
Yankees starter Andy Pettitte shut down the Astros tonight in his final start of his career. The left-hander allowed one run on five hits and two walks while striking out five in a complete game effort. The lone Astros run came on a Chris Carter ground out in the fourth inning.
Second baseman Robinson Cano helped the Yankees tie the game in the sixth with an RBI single. The go-ahead run would eventually score on a wild pitch when catcher Matt Pagnozzi had a snafu behind the plate. Pagnozzi attempted to pick off Cano at second base, but spiked his throw into the ground and the ball bounced behind home plate, allowing Eduardo Nunez to score.
Pettitte will finish his career with a 256-153 record, a 3.85 ERA, and 26 complete games in 3,316 innings over 18 seasons.
- [quote]Astros on the field to applaud Andy Pettitte. Crowd chanting, Andy! Andy! — Julia Morales (@JuliaMoralesCSN) September 29, 2013
- "Astros on the field to applaud Andy Pettitte. Crowd chanting, Andy! Andy!"
Well, they sure as hell have no reason to root for the Astros.
- Hunter Pence, Giants reach five-year, $90 million deal
AP 5:49 p.m. EDT September 28, 2013
SAN FRANCISCO (AP) — Hunter Pence pleaded ignorance as his San Francisco Giants teammates greeted him with hugs and backslaps when he arrived at AT&T Park for Saturday's game against the San Diego Padres.
Pence and the Giants have reached a tentative agreement on a five-year, $90 million contract, pending a physical.
"I can't say too much until it's official," Giants manager Bruce Bochy said. "It's good news. I couldn't be happier for Hunter."
Pence, who was scheduled to get his physical before taking the field, politely declined comment.
A formal announcement of the deal was expected Sunday. He had been eligible to become a free agent after the World Series.
"You can't help but love Hunter Pence and the way he plays the game," Bochy said. "It's all about making a commitment and getting back on track. You need great players."
Pitchers Matt Cain and Ryan Vogelsong were the first to greet Pence.
"He's a very positive man," Giants outfielder Angel Pagan said. "The game could be 20-0 with two outs in the ninth, and he still thinks we can win it."
Pence is batting .282 with a career-high 26 home runs and 94 RBI. He received the Willie Mac Award on Friday night, given to the most inspirational member of the Giants.
He's played in every game this season and would become the first Giants' player since Alvin Dark started all 154 games in 1954. The last outfielder to play in every Giants game was Bobby Thomson in 1949.
The two-time All-Star outfielder was acquired from the Philadelphia Phillies in July last year and was credited with being instrumental in San Francisco's second World Series title in three years.
"We're here not just to play baseball, we're here to win," Pagan said. "This is good news for us. It's good he stays here. We know the type of team we've got."
The right fielder leads the NL with 369 putouts. He has an 88% success rate in stolen bases and is third with 298 total bases. Pence ranks sixth in hits and fourth in doubles.
Pence finished third in NL Rookie of the Year voting with the Houston Astros in 2007.
- A survey of MLB players said most wouldn't care if a teammate was gay. Only 1.5% said it would be a "big problem" (Torii Hunter, is that you?)
The whole survey is pretty funny - they were asked questions like "Which player would you NOT want your daughter to marry?"
- Tonight is the one-game play-in (play-on?) between TEX and TB. Who are you rooting for? I don't think either has a chance of making into the WS, though.
Tampa Bay Rays over Texas Rangers.
I don't want a red-state team winning the World Series. I don't want one in it. So that also means that I want first-round exits from both Atlanta Braves and St. Louis Cardinals.
- They're playing the game in Texas; I wonder how many people would have come to the game if they were playing in Tampa.
- The last day of the regular season (for all but the Rangers and Rays) was kind of fun. There were things of interest in several games all being played at the same time so it was necessary to jump around between them to see how some of the playoff implications would play out.
But some of the match-ups that had nothing to do with the postseason were good too.
The way that Marlins game played out was pretty cool - although I only watched the 9th inning. A pitcher finishing the top of the 9th with a no-hitter intact, but not being able to celebrate anything because of the shut-out tie score was bizarre. I was glad Miami scored in the bottom of that inning though, if only because I didn't want to spend more time watching that game when there were others going on that I felt more invested in.
Another long-time and well-liked player retired yesterday too, although he's not as celebrated as Pettitte or Rivera or Helton.
Mark Kotsay spent 17 years jumping around teams (Marlins, Padres, As, Braves, BoSox, White Sox, Brewers, and finally Padres again) and had his final at-bat yesterday. Giants fans gave him a decent round of applause and for his last plate appearance, his old Oakland teammate and buddy Barry Zito came out of the bullpen to pitch to him...and strike him out. So this game (rather than that win he had 4 days earlier) was Zito's last as a Giant as they can finally close out that bloated contract they gave him.
Another sentimental moment from that game, Bryan Stow, the Giants fan that was beaten nearly to death in the Dodger Stadium parking lot 2 years ago, was featured at the game. (I don't know if there was any acknowledgement of the Dodgers fan stabbed to death by Giants fans just a couple of blocks from AT&T Park a week or so ago) The team was doing fundraising for Stow because he still requires care for his injuries. During the game the team gave him one of their World Series Championship rings. I assume he was allowed to keep that ring, but the on-air announcers weren't too clear on that since it wasn't given to him in any sort of formal presentation.
- R247, I'm rooting for PIT or LA to take it all. Other than the Yankees (my favorite team) it seems tough for other AL teams to win. The last was BOS in '07. I don't think they're strong enough to overtake any NL team.
Was glad the Yankees won yesterday's game. Final game of the regular season and Andy's and MO's careers. Huff looked pretty good as a starter and I'll be OK with David Robertson as our closer. We have some stars ready to come up and play in the big leagues.
I'm sure the HOU fans were pissed if they came to see MO pitch.
Baseball Fan aka R246
- Go Pirates!
- I'm rooting for the A's and the Reds
- David Price getting the CG tonight in Texas is pretty frickin' cool.
- The NY Times essentially said baseball's moment as "America's Pastime" is now officially over. No one has any interest in the game or the players anymore.
- ^ Football passed baseball as "America's pastime" a long time ago. But people who love baseball will continue to love it.
- I wonder if Joe Girardi would really give up the Yankees job to be the skipper of the Cubs.
I think it's funny that the biggest news concerning the Cubs over the past few years has all been in changes off the field - the ownership, then president (Epstein), Wrigley upgrades, and now manager again. At some point one of those well paid execs will figure out that they might want to invest in a decent player or two.
- Enough with the retirement of Mariano Rivera and Andy Pettitte (who has retired two other times). So much overblown maudlin writing.
Last AL team to win the World Series was not the 2007 Boston Red Sox but the 2009 New York Yankees.
- [quote] Other than the Yankees (my favorite team) it seems tough for other AL teams to win. The last was BOS in '07.
r258, did you see the sentence that r250 wrote before saying the Red Sox won in '07?
"Other than the Yankees..."
- "Enough with the retirement of Mariano Rivera and Andy Pettitte (who has retired two other times). So much overblown maudlin writing."
Wait until Jeter retires...
- I missed it, R259.
Sorry about that, R250.
- Hugs to you both, R247 and R259.
For those who are rooting for PIT, check out the link (hope it works!)
Andy retired only ONE other time.
R250 aka Baseball Fan
- R256, Joe has stated that he doesn't have the ties he used to to Chicago since his dad died earlier this year.
I believe he said he has a brother(s) and sister(s) who still live in the area but he doesn't feel the same about Chicago.
I hope he remains with NYY. Give him another 2 or 3 year contract to get number 28!
Wonder if Ron Washington will remain with the Rangers. He's been a bridesmaid quite a few times in the recent past but never a bride.
- The news about Dan Uggla being left off the roster for the NLDS games wasn't surprising. His BA of late has been embarrassingly pitiful and he has already been sitting on the bench for several late-season games.
What was really shocking was learning what the Braves are paying him. I had no idea any team thought he was worthy of a contract that pays $13 million a year.
- "The news about Dan Uggla being left off the roster for the NLDS games wasn't surprising. His BA of late has been embarrassingly pitiful and he has already been sitting on the bench for several late-season games."
He has a hot ass, but he can't play forever!
- Clayton Kershaw vs. Kris Medlen tonight should be a real pitching exhibition.
Will be interesting to see which ace cracks first.
Extra innings for a scoreless tie????
- Former MLB player Chad Curtis was just sentenced to 7-to-15 years in prison for molesting teen girls. For the record this guy was a big time fundie who claimed the Yankees bounced him for proselytizing to his teammates.
- [quote]this guy was a big time fundie
This is one felon who won't be able to use the old "I found Jesus" scam to gain an early release from the parole board.
- Can someone explain to me why the Braves choke so much in the postseason? They're always very good in the regular season, but after game 162 they SUCK. They should replace their logo with the Heimlich maneuver.
- Pirates really collapsed tonight
- I don't care for Keith Olbermann managing the studio desk for the TBS broadcast.
His ESPN show is decent so it's not as though I don't like him, but I think the TBS team from the past few season was more dynamic with Matt Winer taking the lead slot.
- Oh, I was wondering why he wasn't on his show.
I turned it on yesterday morning and saw Larry King; I immediately changed the channel.
- Supposedly Dusty Baker (Reds' manager) is about to either step down or be fired.
- [bold]Dusty Baker surprised by firing, doesn't plan to retire[/bold]
The Cincinnati Reds wanted Dusty Baker to resign.
They wanted him to call it a career?
He's not ready.
They wanted him to fire his hitting coach, Brook Jacoby.
So the Reds fired Baker.
The Red announced the firing Friday, and Baker spent the day at his condominium in Cincinnati gathering his belongings after six years there.
"It's going to take a couple of days just to pack my stuff up,'' Baker told USA TODAY Sports. "I wasn't ready for this. I really wasn't. I thought I'd still be here.''
Instead, despite leading the Reds to the playoffs for the third time in four seasons, Baker was fired after Reds lost to the Pittsburgh Pirates in a wild-card game.
Reds general manager Walt Jocketty originally told reporters that Baker would be retained, with $4 million remaining on his two-year, $8 million extension.
Those plans changed Thursday.
Jocketty and Reds owner Bob Castellini met Baker and thought it was best he step down, saying they were concerned about his health, after suffering a stroke the previous winter. Baker told them he felt fine. He still had plenty of energy.
Baker told them his doctors provided their blessing for him to continue managing.
"I am not retiring,'' Baker told USA TODAY Sports. "I am not taking a year off. I feel better now than I did a year go at this time. I got a clean bill of health. They said I'm doing great.
"Please, let everybody know, I still plan on managing.''
It just won't be in Cincinnati.
"If you were around,'' Jocketty told the Cincinnati Enquirer, "you kind of saw that it didn't look like players were responding. We felt a new direction, a new voice might be necessary.
"It was a tough decision. We appreciate and respect what Dusty did the six years he was here. But we just felt that the way things went toward end, that it was evident we needed to make a change and try improve on the performance for next year.''
Jim Riggleman, the Reds' Class AAA manager in Louisville and former manager of the Washington Nationals, is the favorite to replace Baker. Pitching coach Bryan Price is also a strong candidate. And, no, Tony La Russa, who won two World Series championships with Jocketty in Oakland and St. Louis, has no interest in returning as manager.
Baker, 64, says he still believes he should be the one returning, winning at least 90 games in three of the last four seasons. But the Reds' six consecutive losses to end the season doomed his fate, Jocketty said.
"It really was a tough decision," Castellini told the Cincinnati Enquirer. "I had a good relationship with Dusty. He's a hell of a guy, a real renaissance man. But it wasn't working with this particular team, at this particular minute. You've got to make a change.
"Did you see the team playing with great passion, vigor and confidence? And as a team? I don't think that anyone can say that positively. I think it was apparent that they were not playing up to their potential."
- My first thought was to wonder if the Nationals would be a good fit for Dusty Baker.
As much as I like and respect Cal Ripken, it feels like asking for trouble to give him that job when he's never managed a team at any level. The Nats are at the point where they are expected to be in the playoffs, and for his first managing job it seems like Ripken should take over a team that is young or on the rise.
If he seriously wants to manage a club next season, maybe the Cubs job would be a better starting point for him - assuming that that Girardi isn't going to take a backwards career step by giving up the Yankees job and moving to Chi-town.
- [quote]As much as I like and respect Cal Ripken,
and his ass. Can't forget the magnificence of his ass.
- The Braves have elevated choking to an art form.
- The Braves were pretty pitiful, but at least they went out with a fairly exciting finale tonight. How nice for Craig Kimbrel that he got to sit the game out and possibly because of that he can sit the entire winter now.
- Did anyone see the Tigers/A's fight yesterday?
- I did, R279.
I paid it no attention. And I don't care about it.
Detroit Tigers is my home team. But they became cold toward the end of September, including having been no-hit, by a starter from the normally lowly Miami Marlins (sorry for not mentioning his name; I'd have to look him up).
Miguel Cabrera had unfortunate timing with an injury he has been playing through for a month. His batting average, from late-August to the regular-season end on Sept. 29, fell an estimated 10 points. (He still did win his third consecutive AL batting title.)
No team should be able to say … "out fortunes rests with one offensive player."
It's been said that pitching wins out. Well, Justin Verlander struck out 11 Oakland Athletics batters last Saturday, in Game #02 of their AL division series matchup, but Oakland apparently had a magical starter as well because Detroit's offense were held scoreless. Excuse me for saying this - the Detroit offense failed. And, leading through much of the Game #03 from Monday, Detroit was scoreless a good collective 20 innings. That is not championship-level baseball. That is not good enough to win a division series.
At this point, Oakland Athletics would actually be doing Detroit Tigers a favor if they can end the series with Game #04.
So coming back to the fight: I will kindly say I haven't spent on second of my time giving that any thought. [italic]Why[/italic] gives a fuck?
[italic]By the way:[/italic] Here is a link to what Mitch Albom writes about the topic. (Read it if you're interested enough.)
- Was that Tigers & As dust-up even a physical fight? I didn't see the game (I don't have MLB network, damn it!), but saw coverage of it later.
Didn't look like any punches were thrown, and nobody was kicked out of the game. Seemed like just a lot of yelling right up in each others face and chest beating by both teams.
And after works both Martinez and Balfour pretty much downplayed the whole incident. Seemed like Balfour, who is always demonstrative, was doing his usual cursing (at himself, maybe?) from the mound and Martinez too issue with it and stared him down after a pitch. And that's often all it takes.
- Here is video . . . . .
- I learned something during the Rays/BoSox game last night. Actually I didn't learn it last night because I was still confused when that game ended, but today I looked up the MLB rules governing the situation and figured out what I didn't follow last night.
It's a DH issue. While I follow quite a bit of baseball, the majority of teams I pay attention to are National League. The situation that happened last night was either new to me, or I'd just never paid close enough attention when it happened in games I was watching.
Wil Myers was pulled from the game when he tweaked...something. I don't even know exactly what was wrong with him, but he made a face like he was in pain when he was at bat in the 7th inning. After the game I heard he was hooked up to an IV for treatment.
Anyway, Matt Joyce was DH until that point, but with Myers leaving the game, Joe Maddon had Joyce take right field to replace Myers' position.
My confusion was that the announcers said since the DH became a position player, the pitcher had to be inserted into the batting lineup and become a hitter. My question was why couldn't they use another player off the bench to become the new DH.
So I looked up the rule, and it says...
[quote]The Designated Hitter may be used defensively, continuing to bat in the same position in the batting order, but the pitcher must then bat in the place of the substituted defensive player, unless more than one substitution is made, and the manager then must designate their spots in the batting order.
[quote]Once a Designated Hitter assumes a defensive position this move shall terminate the Designated Hitter role for the remainder of the game.
So I learned something about American League ball today. I feel kind of stupid for never knowing that before.
- I hate the Red Sox but knew in my heart that Tampa Bay couldn't possibly overtake them. Nice to see that many people in the stands at Flopicana Field. They must have bussed them in, given away free tickets, or both.
I'd prefer the As over the Tigers. I don't know if the Tigers can beat the Red Sox.
I hope the Pirates can overtake the Cardinals. Clint Hurdle has done amazing things with that team (except for AJ Burn-out). I don't know if anyone can handle that head case.
- bumping for the games tonight!
- Girardi signs four-year extension with Yankees
Manager will enter seventh season at helm with best record in Majors since 2008
- With the Pirates and Rays eliminated, I am starting to not care about any of the remaining teams.
- I'm glad that Justin Morneau hit that 2-out single in the top of the 9th. For whatever reason, I didn't want him to make the last out of the Pirates' season.
But now who to pull for? Pirates or Dodgers?
For me it's a case of choosing the lesser of two evils. Evils in this case meaning teams with great pedigrees and overloaded with talent.
- The Dodgers must lose. It sets a bad precedent to have a team spend all that money and win the World Series.
- "The Dodgers must lose. It sets a bad precedent to have a team spend all that money and win the World Series."
Gotta love the A's...low payroll, playing in a sewage-filled dump of a stadium, but still good enough to make the playoffs!
- The A's lost - damn, damn, DAMN!!!!!!
- Agreed, R91. I hate Verlander, et al.
I am 0-4 in post-season play so far this year. I'm afraid my mojo will reverse itself if I root for the team I hate. The RS could wind up winning!
I don't really care about the WS this year but will watch it (unless something else is on). I will, as stated previously, root for the NL team in the WS no matter who it is.
I cannot root for an American League team; my Yankees are the only AL team I will EVER root for.
You're basically saying that the only American League team which meets with your approval ["EVER"] is New York Yankees.
From the same post, you mention in your signature that you are a "Baseball Fan."
How do you figure [italic]that[/italic]?
- Go Dodgers!!!!!!!!!
I liked the Pirates too, but they bit the big one.
I don't know who I want between the Red Sox and the Tigers.
- I was thinking the same thing as you, r293.
What kind of MLB fan would say they don't care about the World Series?
Seems like "Yankee Fan" would be a more appropriate moniker.
- The Dodgers offense looks so pitiful against the Cards.
- Whenever I see Joe Buck on TV, I can't help but picture his mouth stuffed with Troy Aikman's cock. I'm sure that's just me though.
- r297, don't be vulgar, dude
- Missouri is not a die-hard red state; Obama only lost to McCain by 3,000 votes in 2008. And the state has often elected Democrats to the Senate.
The Cardinals have not beaten the Dodgers yet in the NLCS, but if the Cards do it will be with a signicantlly lower payroll. St.Louis finished the season second only to the Dodgers in major league attendance (amazing for a mid-market team). Most important, the pitching staff is about 30% rookies, including Michael Wacha and Shelby Miller.
I guess the Cardinals do not get much support anymore, because the St Louis makes the playoffs nearly as often as the Yankees.
- [quote]You're basically saying that the only American League team which meets with your approval ["EVER"] is New York Yankees.
Perhaps R292 thinks that the DH rule sucks and so wants the National League teams to prevail (many followers of the game feel that way) however his love of the Yankees comes first.
That IS a baseball fan in my book.
- Dodgers squealing like a Puig. If they lose game 3, they've gotta pitch Greinke on three days rest.
- I won't take R292 too much to task.
I just thought it strange that there is the feeling of spite. New York Yankees and the 27 World Series championships don't feel that special, when another gets notched, to too many people outside of New York City and the state of New York. But the resentment - that [italic]New York Yankees[/italic] is the [italic]only[/italic] American League team acceptable for winning a given year's pennant to rep the league a World Series - is a smack to all other teams. And to say that while having pretty much expressing no comparable standard for the teams from the National League shows that it's more an emotional than a fan feeling.
In 2013, New York Yankees had an underwhelming season in part because of the injuries - but also the painful battle just for the wild card. The most valuable player on that team was the manager, Joe Girardi. Either Terry Francona (Cleveland Indians) or John Farrell (Boston Red Sox) will win the 2013 AL Manager of the Year prize next month from the Baseball Writers' Association of America. But, no matter, Girardi was fantastic.
- I know how to fix the Red Sox. Shave those fookin beards. This isn't the 1800's.
- "I know how to fix the Red Sox. Shave those fookin beards. This isn't the 1800's."
I don't want Jacoby Ellsbury to cover up his pretty face!
- That shot of Torii Hunter tumbling headfirst over the bullpen wall last night was just fantastic. It was great to see live, but then ever better when they showed the multiple slo-mo replays.
The best one was from the side where you could see that the BoSox bullpen catcher caught Big Papi's ball without even getting out of his crouch while Hunter slammed face first to the ground right in front of him.
It was a thrilling game as most of the LCS games have been so far.
- Torii Hunter is a vocal homophobe so he can go to hell
- Who spells their name Jhonny? How pretentious. That's why I'm rooting for the Red Sox.
- All the beards on the Red Sox guys.. So sexy.
- Are you thinking of 1970s gay porn, R308?
- I thought the Mexican stand off between Joe Kelly and Scott Van Slyke just prior to the start of the game was amusing. There was some sexual tension there, I'm sure I sensed it.
The blow-out was really disappointing, especially after the NLCS and ALCS have been loaded with close games so far, but I like that Michael Wacha (Flocka Flame) got the series MVP. Very impressed with that guy.
- Look like the Cardinals did a reverse of the Washington Nationals' Strasberg pitch count drama of last season. St. Louis saved Wacha until September/October. If so, it was a brillant decision.
- Apparently he's not the top candidate, but Brad Ausmus is in the running for the open manager job with the Nats.
Somehow, somewhere I want that hot piece back in the game!
- Ausmus interviewed for the Red Sox manager job last year. I think Farrell has done a great job with the team this year, but I was pulling for Ausmus to get the position, especially knowing he grew up in Cheshire and was a Red Sox fan as a kid.
- Trying another link...
- YESSSSS!!!!! RED SOX WIN THE PENNANT
- Oh yeah Red Sox!!!
Your sexy fucking bearded bastards!!
- Prince Fielder's belly flop when trying to get back to 3rd is pretty indicative of his performance this entire post-season.
- R318, that moment helped make the Red Sox's victory that much sweeter.
Dig the way Boston's adorable Italian catcher, Jarrod Saltalamacchia's long wavy curls spring to and fro as he leaps to his feet after tumbling over Fielder, who does indeed resemble a beached whale.
- [bold]Leyland steps down after eight years with Tigers[/bold]
Jim Leyland stepped down as manager of the Tigers on Monday, revealing his decision at a Comerica Park news conference.
Leyland, 68, said he told the Tigers players of his plans after Saturday's loss to the Red Sox in Game 6 of the American League Championship Series. He said that he has accepted a different position, to be determined, with the club.
"It's not goodbye, because I will be in the organization doing something," an emotional Leyland said.
The decision ends Leyland's eight-year tenure leading the team he grew up with, first as a Minor League catcher and then as a manager in its farm system. This season was his 50th in professional baseball, 22 of them managing at the big league level, the last eight in Detroit.
He built the Pittsburgh Pirates into a perennial contender on a small-market budget in the early 1990s, winning three consecutive National League East titles from 1990-92, then won a long-awaited World Series with the Florida Marlins in 1997, only to watch both teams enter rebuilding projects. After a disappointing 1999 season managing in Colorado, he stepped down and seemed ready for retirement.
For years, however, he dreamed about a chance to manage Detroit. He took the job after the 2005 season and led a Tigers team that hadn't had a winning record since 1993 to heights it hadn't seen since its World Series-winning season of 1984.
The 2006 Tigers, Leyland's first team, won the AL Wild Card and went to the World Series, falling to the Cardinals in five games. It was a Cinderella story for a franchise that had seemed mired in mediocrity, but it was the start of a team that contended just about every year.
Six of Leyland's eight Tigers squads finished with a winning record. Four of them went to the playoffs. The last three won the AL Central title and advanced to at least the ALCS. Though they were swept by the Giants, the Tigers reached the World Series last year. Leyland joined Hughie Jennings from a century ago as the only managers to lead the Tigers to three consecutive postseason berths.
In all three seasons, Leyland worked without a contract for the following year. He had decided to go year-to-year with his deal, he said, following the example of his good friend, former Cardinals manager Tony La Russa, to avoid a long-term commitment if he didn't want to manage anymore or if the Tigers wanted to go in a different direction.
There were no signs that Leyland was ready to call it quits. As recently as this summer, he talked about wanting to manage beyond next year, and he said that his energy level was good. Team president and general manager Dave Dombrowski told MLB.com during the AL Division Series that Leyland was welcome as long as he wanted to manage.
Leyland's 700 regular-season managerial wins are the third-most in Tigers history, trailing only Sparky Anderson (1,331) and Jennings (1,131). His .540 winning percentage as Tigers manager ranks only behind Steve O'Neill (.551 from 1943-48) among managers with at least 500 wins.
Leyland's 1,769 wins overall rank 15th all-time among Major League managers. His eight playoff appearances tie him for seventh on the all-time list, a group that includes La Russa, Bobby Cox, Joe Torre and Hall of Famers Casey Stengel, John McGraw, Joe McCarthy and Connie Mack.
- Thanks for posting that,R320. I have always liked and respected Leyland.
As a Tigers fan, I hope Avila can come back strong from his postseason injury jinx. Detest showboaty Fielder; love the quiet soul of the team, Avila.
But damn, they need to fix their bullpen issues. Scherzer, et al deserve better.
- I like that the attached article points out the TV ratings for the World Series are going to suffer thanks to the Wednesday start instead of beginning on Tuesday.
If the series goes a full 7 games, there will be 4 nights where NFL games are on competing channels. With the Tuesday start there would have only been 1 - the Sunday night game.
Additionally a possible Game 7 will now be on Halloween night - when many people are busy with other activities.
At least the Red Sox made it into the series. Since they have such a nationwide fanbase, the TV ratings might not set all-time record lows this October.
- [italic]Detroit Free Press[/italic] has a report that odds are good the next manager will be former player Brad Ausmus, 44, who played for the team in the late-1990s. Smart as baseball, yes, but also very hot. He would top New York Yankees Joe Girardi in that category should Ausmus be the next Tigers skipper.
- Apparently the Giants still love Big Time Timmy Jim. They signed Lincecum to another 2-year contact for $35 million.
I'm stunned that he would still get that kind of money. It's hardly much of a drop-off from his last contract - 2 years for $40 million.
His performance the past 2 seasons has been nothing close to his Cy Young years. But although he's lost velocity, he does seem to be adjusting his style to be more of a finesse pitcher. Still, $17 M a year for a guy that the team occasionally has coming out of the bullpen? Pretty darn steep to me.
- This is our fucking city.
- The Red Sox have to stop throwing to third base.
- Fuck that. What was Middlebrooks supposed to do? Teleport out of the way?
- Red Sox fans also need to read the obstruction rule in baseball.
- Assuming the Red Sox win, is Big Papi a lock for series MVP?
- I'm happy that Stephen Drew finally FINALLY got a hit tonight. His BA for the postseason has been abysmal, but he's shown flawless defense in a series that has otherwise been loaded with fielding blunders.
Now starts the dreaded off season...I hate it so much.
Bring on the winter meetings!
- No sooner did I type R330 when I saw Stephen Drew overthrow Napoli at first during the next half inning after he hit his home run. So much for the flawless defense.
- Loooooooove Tim Lincecum. Hope he invests his money well and doesn't do anything stupid.
- Congratulations to the 2013 Boston Red Sox!
I did not watch the World Series. But I'm glad that an American League team won the title for the first time since 2009.
- I wonder how big Big Papi's dick is?
- R329, yep. He got it.
Glad they won it at Fenway!!
- congrats Boston!
- Brad Ausmus has interviewed for the Cubs manager job now too.
- Still looking mighty fly!
I wonder if Dombrowski hired Ausmus because he wants to get fucked by him.
- Dombrowsi & Ausmus
- Joe Mauer will finally be permanently taking his old boyfriend's spot at first.
- R340, so he's no longer a catcher?
- Oh I think he'll still be a 'catcher' r341, he just won't be behind the plate during games anymore.
Two entirely different issues.
- [bold]2013 Winners' List: Baseball Writers' Association of America[/bold]
[bold]MVP:[/bold] Miguel Cabrera, [italic]Detroit Tigers[/italic]
[bold]CY YOUNG:[/bold] Max Scherzer, [italic]Detroit Tigers[/italic]
[bold]ROOKIE OF THE YEAR:[/bold] Wil Myers, [italic]Tampa Bay Rays[/italic]
[bold]MANAGER OF THE YEAR:[/bold] Terry Francona, [italic]Cleveland Indians[/italic]
[bold]MVP:[/bold] Andrew McCutchen, [italic]Pittsburgh Pirates[/italic]
[bold]CY YOUNG:[/bold] Clayton Kershaw, [italic]Los Angeles Dodgers[/italic]
[bold]ROOKIE OF THE YEAR:[/bold] Jose Fernandez, [italic]Miami Marlins[/italic]
[bold]MANAGER OF THE YEAR:[/bold] Clint Hurdle, [italic]Pittsburgh Pirates[/italic]
Winners were announced on MLB Network, over four-consecutive days (Monday to Thursday, 11.11.2013 to 11.14.2013). Below link is to BBWAA.com.
- How in the world does John Farrell not get Manager of the Year? I love Francona, but that makes no sense.
- Kind of sad to hear Mauer will never catch again, but with his concussion problems it is probably for the best. Plus with his big size, I think he would have had even more knee and leg problems now that he is in his 30s. Hard to believe he already has ten big league seasons under his belt. It will be interesting to see if his offensive numbers change now that he is no longer crouching 9 innings. Hopefully that won't change his nice backsides size and shape too much...
- R344, for the same reason Joe Girardi would never be considered - the talent they have to work with.
Farrell had a Joe Torre-esque season this year; he barely had to manage. He basically said "no more shit in the lockerroom and get it together." Let's see how he does next year.
- Phillies, Carlos Ruiz agree on deal
Jayson Stark [ARCHIVE]
ESPN.com | November 18, 2013
Faced with the prospect of losing their longtime catcher, Carlos Ruiz, to the Boston Red Sox, the Philadelphia Phillies agreed Monday to re-sign Ruiz to a three-year, $26 million contract, sources confirmed to ESPN.com.
The deal will pay Ruiz a salary of $8.5 million in each of the next three seasons, according to a source familiar with the contract. There is also a $4.5 million club option for the 2017 season or a $500,000 buyout.
Ruiz, who turns 35 in January, becomes the fourth-highest-paid catcher in baseball, with an average annual value of $8.67 million.
Only Buster Posey ($18.56 million), Yadier Molina ($15 million) and Miguel Montero ($12 million) are earning more at that position now that the Twins are shifting Joe Mauer from catcher to first base.
Ruiz can earn another $500,000 per year if he starts 125 games -- a threshold he has never reached in his eight major league seasons. The deal also includes a limited no-trade clause, sources said, which allows him to block trades to four teams. He would gain total trade-veto rights with the Phillies by becoming a "10-and-5 man" (10 years of big league service, with five for the same team) in July 2016.
As recently as last week, it appeared Ruiz was on the verge of leaving the Phillies, the only franchise he has played for, potentially to join a Red Sox team that had made him its top catching target, largely because of his ability to run a contending pitching staff, sources said. The Colorado Rockies and Toronto Blue Jays also had expressed serious interest.
However, the Phillies -- as they have done with several other members of the core group from their 2008 championship team -- made it a priority to retain him and were willing to up their offer to include a third guaranteed season, after previously offering two years with a vesting option for a third season.
- I'm wondering if Chris Carpenter is the only great pitcher that will be announcing an injury-influenced early retirement this off season.
And I like that Tim Hudson gets to return to the Bay Area to pitch for the Giants now. Hopefully that ankle heals up sufficiently.
- David Frees leaving his hometown team for Anaheim was kind of a surprise. I'm a little late with this news - didn't hear about it until tonight.
But the bigger shock, for me at least, is Brian McCann leaving the Braves after all these years to catch for the Yankees.
- Nats need to regroup
- Nats adding Doug Fister looks like a great move. What team has a stronger starting rotation? ...at least on paper.
- The Phillies traded catcher Eric Kratz. Not only was he a decent hitter but I'm going to miss his turkey bacon commercials.
- Nats look great on paper, but then they have to play
- Jacoby Ellsbury just signed with the Yankees for big bucks. Red Sox fans will hate him now!
- Robinson Cano signed with the Seattle Mariners. More money, more years and none of those pesky post-season games. Good move.
Curtis Granderson is going to the NY Mets.
R348, MLB.com is reporting that Roy Halladady is retiring. He will sign a one-day contract to retire as a Toronto Blue Jay.
- "Robinson Cano signed with the Seattle Mariners. More money, more years and none of those pesky post-season games. Good move."
Mo' money, mo' problems
- I thought Mark Prior retired a few years ago. I had no idea that he's been trying to get back in the majors all this time.
But he's finally thrown in the towel. His career should have been so much better than it ended up being.