What churches do not use wine for communion?

Growing up Episcopalian I remember the communion wine and it was always good. The priest told my mom they got cases delivered from somewhere and I'm not sure it was available for resale. My mom asked him because she loved the wine served. I was told Baptists and Lutherans don't drink wine but grape juice because they think fermented drinks were not consumed back then? Anyone?

Methodists.
Oh, and fermented drinks most certainly were consumed in the 1st century and even before then. The old testament is chock full of stories people drinking too much and doing regrettable things.
It is well known that "red drank" was served at the Last Supper.
There has been wine since at least 7000 BCE.
There were fermented drinks like wine or beer before there was bread.
I am fairly certain that all Protestant denominations, other than Episcopalians, use grape juice (Methodists even let small children and non-Methodists partake in communion, which some other churches do not).
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[quote]I was told Baptists and Lutherans don't drink wine but grape juice because they think fermented drinks were not consumed back then? Wine has been around for ages and it was actually a preferred beverage because water supplies were tainted.
So what is there reasoning R7?
Missouri Synod Lutheran here. We've always used Mogen David for communion. Grape juice available if a church member shouldn't be touching alcohol. I know the other Lutheran denominations all use grape juice. Pussies.
I love the wine served at the Catholic church I grew up in. My mom always got mad at me for drinking from the cup because she was afraid I'd catch something. But I did it anyway because I loved it so much.
I believe Baptists and Methodists are supposed to refrain from alcohol - hence the grape juice.
Oops, there should be their.
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But Jesus drank so I'm not sure where this teetotaling came from R11. Doesn't make sense to me.
Many of the Protestant religions were involved in the temperance movement, so that is perhaps where the ban comes from. As far as Jesus drinking wine goes: most people understand that during Biblical times, water was considered unsafe to drink (and for good reason) so alcohol was the wiser choice. This attitude lasted a real long time. Lewis and Clark brought beer with them on their journey because they felt it was safer to drink that then water.
I'm an ELCA Lutheran. My church, and all the others like it in the area all use real wine. Of all the different Lutheran churches I've attended over the years, I can only recall one or two that didn't use real wine. Real wine was also served at the Churchwide Assemblies that I've attended.
I remember reading somewhere that the Missouri Synod was the only American denomination that never had a temperance society, because Blessed Luther drank beer.
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R13 - I agree, but those are their rules. Body is a temple and all that. Why do the mormons not drink caffeine?
Heck, yeah, R16. Those monks and friars sure could make some good alcohol. Nothing else to do I guess.
R16 Im not certain, but I have a feeling the beer that was around in centuries past was different from the beer we have now, at least in terms of alcohol content.
The Mormons use something like chopped up wonder bread and tiny plastic cups filled with water, all blessed and delivered by 12 year olds.
Christ, why can't mormons just order the same communion wafers that other churches do? Is everything they do tacky and low rent? Wonder bread is about as low rent as you can get.
I grew up Roman Catholic in the 70s and 80s and they never served wine at communion in the churches I attended. Only the priest had some. Later, a chalice was available off to the side for those who wanted it, but I'd say that didn't appear until the late 80s. Back in the 70s, Communion was placed on your tongue by the priest and the altar boys held that shiny gold thing under your chin in case the drunk old coot dropped it. I guess it was the late 70s when people had the option to take it in their hands and pop it in their own mouths. The poor altar boys looked like they were playing ping pong with that shiny gold thing, never quite knowing where to place it (under chin or under hands).
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"I was told Baptists and Lutherans don't drink wine but grape juice because they think fermented drinks were not consumed back then?" If that is true then they are not even internally consistent... wasn't the miracle at the Wedding at Cana (the first attributed to Jesus) where he turned water into wine?!?! Idiots can't get their own stories right!
Presbyterians use Welch's Grape Juice.
I worked at a Presbyterian Church for Boy Scouts, and we used grape juice (concentrate) and white bread. I asked the minister and he said they had dropped the wine when they switched to the tiny little individual shot glasses because it was easier, and they switched to the glasses instead of the goblet back in the days of the polio epidemic because the glasses were more sanitary. As far as the bread, he said something about how Jesus ate bread, not a wafer, and then he made it very clear that the Catholic nuns controlled the wafer business in this country and it would be a cold day in Hell before Presbyterians would buy their wafers from the Papists.
[quote]As far as the bread, he said something about how Jesus ate bread, not a wafer The last supper was during passover, so Jesus likely used unleavened bread, which is why Catholics (and others) use a wafer.
R26 is correct. Bread was unleavened and not anything like the shit we eat now. R25 that guy sounds like he needed to loosen up his panties.
Listen if I go to church they'd better goddam serve real wine and not pussy grape juice.
Most Protestants do not use wine. Only the liturgical oldline liberal Protestant churches use wine (Episcopalians, Lutherans). ALmost no Pentecostal, Baptist, Methodist, evangelical, or non-denominational churches use wine.
Why not, R29? Do you know? Seems to me a Protestant is a Protestant.
Shouldn't the wine be Mogan David?
I was brought up as a Methodist and we used grape juice served in a tiny paper cup. The bread for Communion was a home made loaf the pastor's hippie daughter baked.
r29, most evangelical Protestants think drinking alcohol is something Christians should refrain from at the very least. These Christians believe believe that although alcohol consumption is not inherently or always sinful, it is generally not the wisest or most prudent choice for a Christian to partake in. This view is widespread. Some Christian think alcohol consumption as we know it today is a sin and believe that the wine drank by believers in the Bible had a lower alcohol content than today's wine. Prohibitionists hold that the Bible forbids partaking of alcohol altogether, with some arguing that the alleged medicinal use of wine in 1 Timothy 5:23 is a reference to unfermented grape juice. They argue that the words for alcoholic beverages in the Bible can also refer to non-alcoholic versions such as unfermented grape juice, and for this reason the context must determine which meaning is required. In passages where the beverages are viewed negatively, prohibitionists understand them to mean the alcoholic drinks, and where they are viewed positively, they understand them to mean non-alcoholic drinks. Prohibitionists are a smaller group of Christians today, but the overall negative view of Christians who drink alcohol is widespread, especially in the South.
Welch's grape juice was originally developed as a non-alcoholic substitute for sacramental wine, usually in various Protestant churches, the Methodists and Baptists are the first to come to mind though.
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OP here. I loved the old time communion we did. I don't have a religious bone in my body but I thought the wafer and drinking wine out of that big gold chalice was the shit back then. I loved Christmas when the priest would come down the aisle with his purple scarf on and the little incense burner thingie swaying around.
I'm pretty sure most Catholic churches have switched over to grape juice as well.
I don't know about you folks, but I'm drinking the literal blood of Christ. Transubstantiation and all that.
We use delicious Seneca grape juice at my church (Welch's is owned by a bunch of heathens) and anyone using wine is a blasphemer and fornicator.
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I grew up in a congregational church. We had grape juice in little crystal glasses that were brought to us. The bread was baked by the minister's wife. We would sneak down after church and eat the leftovers - she was a great baker! I was so surprised when I went to an Episcopal service with my friend and I was expected to go to the front of the church and all I got was a drop of wine (I think it was wine) and a dried up cracker thingie. I preferred sitting and getting my little glass of Welch's and a hunk of homemade bread delivered to me.
r27, unleavened bread was served at the last supper, maybe because Jesus was Jewish, and unleavened bread is what is used at that ceremony. Yeast breads have been around for thousands of years. Even the Egyptians had yeast breads, as did the Romans.
R39 -- Don't come back, you lazy git!
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R39 we got more than a drop. I'd say we got at least a good swallow but this was 40 years ago too. Inflation may have changed this.