Lance Armstrong Lied!

He lied! Words can't describe how much I don't care. Such ridiculous outrage. He road a bike for a living. Get over it.

• People care about this because his charity's immense success was due to his image.

• I'm with you, OP. Not that it's a story that ever held any interest, but even paying no attention it's clear that there have been repeated allegations going back many years; that these allegations have gained in strength over time; that the events of the past year so make the fact of Armstrong having lied the least bit of a surprise. The only surprise would be if somehow Armstrong had not lied. That might be a story (if one cared.) The only story is about feeding a public appetite for seeing those who fall grovel and apologize, a process that strikes me as being as interesting as the doings of the Kardashian Klan.

• [quote] He road a bike for a living. Oh, dear.

• [quote]He road a bike for a living. [quote]Oh, dear. Fact.

• No, he RODE a bike for a living, dearest. What's even sadder is that you didn't even know what was wrong.

• Armstrong sued the London Sunday Times for libel and won $500,000 after it printed a story by a reporter who accused Armstrong of doping. Now the paper will likely sue Armstrong for the return of the award, as the "libelous" story was based in fact. If a person's lies had cost the OP half a million dollars, I bet he wouldn't "get over it" too quickly.

• You must give him credit. He understood the logic of cheating, threatening people who didn't go along and destroying careers of people who weren't 100% committed. He proved that Americans can be just as bad as Europeans.

• Let's face it, everyone knew all along. Certainly the Euros who were constantly cheating themselves. They just couldn't believe this yokel without the professional support they had could take them at their own game. It came with a severe price to his own health though. I don't expect him to survive all this.

• Oh look! OP is so superior and sophisticated he declares that the Tour de France is just a bike race. Whatever YOU think of it, OP, it is important to many and his apparent winning it 7 times made him an international superstar and an American hero. He was considered one of the greatest athletes in history. Add his being a cancer survivor to the mix and he is an icon.

• He WAS an icon, now he's just a lying, cheating scumbag who intimidated and threatened the careers of honest bikers. As for his cancer, sure he survived it but he probably gave it to himself and how heroic is that?

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• Lance Armstrong, All American Boy! Spank 'im!

  Jack

• Personally I feel the same way, but I understand the outrage among some people - people associated with this charity, cycling community, actual fans of Armstrong. For the rest of us, who the fuck cares.

• I cannot think of anything that matters less in the entire history of time and space and sports and bikes and on and on and on. An athlete took a steroid. Je ne giverais-a-shit pas for the rest of time, no matter how long I may live. Please, may we get back to something that matters?

• See, I feel bad about saying this, especially since my score on the sociopathy test in another thread was quite low . . . but I don't care either. To me it's the same thing as the Oprah/James Frey "Million Little Pieces" scandal of yesteryear. Yes, Armstrong lied... so what? I've lied, you've lied, your mother and father have lied...EVERYONE at one point or another has lied. Armstrong lied on a larger scale and yes, to a larger platform, but I just can seem to work up a froth about it. But while we're on the topic...did he dope before he was treated for cancer, or did it start afterward?

• R16, your last paragraph is no more interesting than the rest of this snory.

• R16 here. That should have been CAN'T work up a froth.

• "Yes, Armstrong lied... so what? I've lied, you've lied, your mother and father have lied...EVERYONE at one point or another has lied. Armstrong lied on a larger scale and yes, to a larger platform, but I just can seem to work up a froth about it." There is a big difference between lying and doing what Armstrong did. Your average person would never be able to mainatin such a lie on the level that he did. I think part of why he is getting as much heat as he has is because he was so defiant and downright arrogant and nasty in trying to prove his false innocence. Not to mention his fans scraming outrage because people had the nerve to pick on a cancer victim. I do wonder what his staunch supporters think now that he has done a one eighty and admitted what they have fought so hard to deny. He's just a self serving asshole who needs to get out of the limelight for a long time.

• Well...I don't know; I think it might be relevant to how the world views him, no? I mean, if he didn't start doping until AFTER the cancer, it might quell a TINY bit of of the outrage. "I love riding a bike competitively so much that I'm going to do whatever I have to do to compete." The public might be willing to throw a bit of sympathy and understanding his way. Hell, I don't know. Like I said, I don't care.

• He made over $100 million in endorsements with his lies.

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• Ahhhh, well now I feel differently. See, I didn't know he'd been a real dick about it, R19. If in his efforts to deny the charges he was a prick, well, that's different. I'm not into biking so I just know his story as more of a pop culture feature. Okay, then. Yeah, he's a self-serving douche who is getting his just deserts.

• You guys are weird. Do you apply the same I-do-not-give-a-shit attitude to everything corrupt that happens in our society? Read the retirement speech by this British cyclist and you will see that not every cyclist doped or wanted to dope, even when put under extreme pressure by their team-mates and sponsors. And for those who refused to dope, money was lost, races were lost, and the sport of cycling was ruined. Armstrong had a huge, bigger than any other cyclist, part in the ruin of the sport. On top of it, he ruthlessly went after those who testified against him. He is perfect example of someone who thinks they can bully and manipulate their way to success and money, no matter at what cost for others. He deserves to be punished.

  http%3A//www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2013/jan/14/nicole-cooke-retirement-statement

• How Lance Armstrong Lied to the World (Including Me) by Howard Kurtz Jan 5, 2013 2:32 PM EST A leak to the New York Times indicates the cycling champ is finally ready to come clean Lance Armstrong lied to me. Twice. I know, I’ve got plenty of company. He lied to other journalists, racing officials, his fans, and anyone else who would listen in denying that he used illegal substances in winning his cycling titles. Now comes an orchestrated leak to the New York Times in which Armstrong seems about to fess up, “according to several people with direct knowledge of the situation.” He has “told associates associates and antidoping officials,” says the paper, “that he is considering publicly admitting that he used banned performance-enhancing drugs and blood transfusions during his cycling career.” Hmm. That’s about a million miles from the no-way, no-how, I’m-being-framed tone that he took with me. In an interview for The Daily Beast in July, Armstrong said that anti-doping officials were pursuing a “personal vendetta” against him. And he was absolutely adamant. He sounded aggrieved, even angry. “They’ve got no physical evidence, no lab work, no positive tests,” he told me. “They can go out and coerce testimony, and that’s all they need with the burden of proof so low.” Armstrong added that the fellow cyclists who were hurling the allegations were trying to get more lenient treatment for their own misconduct: “If I can’t face my accusers, that’s a joke. We did that in medieval times.” He kept circling back to his unshakable denial. “It’s a bum’s rush,” Armstrong said. “I’m just sick and tired of it.” This wasn’t the first time we had crossed paths. In July 2011, the seven-time Tour de France winner mounted a preemptive strike against 60 Minutes. The CBS program was about to air an interview with former teammate Tyler Hamilton, accused Armstrong of using a banned substance as long ago as 1999. The show “basically reneged” on promises to him, Armstrong told me. His lawyers accused 60 Minutes of “disgraceful journalism.” Jeff Fager, the CBS News chairman and the show’s executive producer, told me at the time that Armstrong was playing a “PR game” and that “our reporters have done a first-class job.” One thing Armstrong said then stuck in my mind: “My version of events has never changed on this, and won’t.” Until now, apparently. Lest there be any doubt about the veracity of the Times story, Armstrong’s lawyer, Tim Herman, made no attempt to deny that his client might soon admit to illegal doping. “Lance has to speak for himself on that,” he told the paper. Herman did not respond to my e-mail. I basically knew the jig was up when Armstrong dropped his defense against the U.S. Anti-Doping Agency and allowed himself to be stripped of his Tour de France titles. But it is another thing to watch his own advisers float a trial balloon that he might finally change his story. Armstrong was an inspiring figure for so many, given the way he battled back from cancer to resume his bicycling career. But it isn’t hard to figure out why he may finally be caving. His anti-cancer charity, Livestrong, has been badly damaged. He faces a number of lawsuits. If anti-doping officials, in exchange for a confession, restored his eligibility, he could resume his cycling career. But nothing can restore his lost luster or his credibility. Armstrong spent more than a decade denying with great vehemence what he may now be preparing to admit. He is an accomplished liar. As I can personally attest.

  http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2013/01/05/how-lance-armstrong-lied-to-the-world-including-me.html

• Armstrong didn't just lie, he bullied, blackmailed, threatened, and manipulated others into covering for him. Corruption is a big deal, even if it takes place in a sport you don't care about.

• If Armstrong thinks a half-assed confession is going get them to restore his eligibility, he's completely delusional. He's finished and rightly so.

• I guess I'm just jaded R23. I'm a criminal defense attorney and I would say that at least nine out ten of my clients lie to me. One tends to get sensitized to these things, especially when they don't effect you personally. You're right though. Armstrong lied and hurt a lot a people emotionally and financially.