Jennifer is real, relatable, beloved by her peers, can open a blockbuster yet choses amazing side projects like SLP. Doesn't take herself too seriously as has 2 Oscar noms under her belt at age 22.
Jessica came out of nowhere last year with roles in Tree of Life and The Help. It's well documented she's lied about her age. Her speech was insufferable..."I've worked years and years and did all I could to get here" while she was in the same category as Naomi Watts who really did work for nearly 20 years to get the recognition she has now.
Well Chastain did probably work for years and years what with 4 years of Juilliard and 10+ years of looking for work and tiny roles plus Chastain is the actual lead and not a glorified supporting role.
Jennifer Lawrence is young enough that she'll get more chances at an Oscar. I want to see an older actress win it.
Chastain was awesome in ZDT. I haven't seen SLP yet, so this thread should be put on hold until I am ready to comment further.
Emmanuelle Riva is the clear winner of that match.
Runner-up: Naomi Watts.
J & J don't deserve the Oscar this year.
End of story.
Jennifer Lawrence is funny and sad and angry and heartbroken without a single false note in SLP. It's an amazing comic/dramatic performance. It's also a throwback to the great work of someone like Shirley MacLaine in The Apartment or Diane Keaton in Annie Hall.
Chastain plays two notes in her film: pensive and frustrated. And her hair is distracting.
Lawrence for the win. It's the far more full-bodied performance. Chastain is a little too charisma-free in ZD30. Jennifer Ehle did more with less in the supporting role of the other agent.
Chastain says that, like jodies, she likes to keep her privacy for being typecast. What?
I'm out of the loop. What are SLP and ZDT?
Jennifer Lawrence's Dad isn't Ron Howard.
Zero Dark Thirty and a movie that is m'eh but everyone's jumped on its bandwagon called Silver Linings Playbook.
Well said, R5. I feel like any competent actress could have played that role in Zero Dark Thirty.
[quote]Chastain says that, like jodies, she likes to keep her privacy for being typecast. What?
Chastain needs to "come out" about Ron Howard being her dad. That's what bugs me about her, and she looks exactly like Bryce Dallas Howard...her sister!
Jessica Chastain should have won for "The Help" but not for "Zero Dark Thirty". Jessica didn't really do anything amazing in that film. Jennifer Lawrence had a more difficult role to play.
The whole time she was accepting her GG, I kept thinking, wouldn't it be great if she pulled a Foster and said, "now for the other elephant in the room..."
And made the announcement.
I haven't seen ZDT so don't know on Jessica, but SLP was a good film, although over-rated. Cooper was surprisingly good and better than Lawrence, IMO, although most of the talk seems to be about her, so maybe I'm wrong. I have no idea why DeNiro and the woman who plays Cooper's mom were nominated though. Leo DiCaprio deserved a supporting nom for Django Unchained way more than DeNiro (and why is Christoph Waltz a supporting performance when he's in the majority of a nearly 3 hours movie?).
I think SLP was way overrated and I don't really like Lawrence, and dont think her performance was all that difficult... but I liked her performance way better than Cooper. He basically just shouted his way through the entire movie.
I totally would have given Chastain the Oscar for The Help but ZDT just isn't a role that required much. Jennifer Lawrence was fantastic and batshit crazy in SLP, and it was completely different than any of her other roles.
Plus I just like Lawrence better. She's self-deprecating, a homebody, and has no trace of an ego. Chastain seems cold and mannered. Which isn't an insult, but just makes it harder for me to relate.
The REAL race should be between Lawrence and Riva.
Quvenzhane Wallis is going to pull an Anna Paquin and stun all the older ladies in the Best Actress race at the Oscars.
Do you think Ron Howard feels hurt that his daughter refuses to publicly acknowledge him? Or is he in on it too, figuring it's better for her career and credibility? Either way, it makes me think less of her. At least her sister Bryce didn't hide her lineage.
I just read the profile on Jennifer Lawrence in Vanity Fair. I love her. Hope all of this early success doesn't ruin her personality and outlook on life.
Are you kidding?
It seems more likely that Howard, either Ron or his dad, denied any responsibility for Jessica. That's probably why she's so cold.
When did that Ron Howard rumor start? Is there any proof?
I'm glad they showed photos. I confuse Jennifer Lawrence with Jennifer Hudson all the time.
According to imdb, Ron married his wife Cheryl in 1975. Jessica Chastain was born in 1977. Back then, I think America would never forgive Opie/Richie Cunningham for cheating on his new bride and getting another woman pregnant.
Right. Jennifer Larence smugly disses Meryl Streep, and is so full of herself that you just want her to shut up.
Chastain is a serious and terrific actress. In "Zero Dark.." she was great. Also, in The Heiress on Broadway.
According to this article Jessica's original last name was Howard before she changed it to Chastain.
Yes, we know that. That's why it just adds more fuel to the speculation.
I hope Lawrence doesn't win at 22, that's so young it'd be setting her up for a too-much-too-soon fall. Or for having her career peak at 22, which would be too sad for words.
She seems like such a likeable girl, I wouldn't wish any of that on her.
To me she's either closeted or asexual. For the last few months, lost od boyfriend gossips have appeared. The timing is revealing. To me it's all PR.
r28, which actress are you talking about?
Enough with the Ron Howard nonsense. I realize Chastain looks a bit like Bryce Dallas Howard (Ron's actual actress daughter), but come on.
From Chastain's IMDB page:
One of five children of a fireman father and a vegan-chef mother with a food truck. Jessica was the first member of her family to attend college.
Yes, because everything on IMDB is true.
Including her "age" which was then found to be false.
How old is she then, r24?
"Chastain is a serious and terrific actress. In "Zero Dark.." she was great. Also, in The Heiress on Broadway."
She was dreadful in THE HEIRESS. Shockingly bad. Cherry Jones mopped the floor with her.
That said, Chastain was very good in THE HELP, TAKE SHELTER, and THE TREE OF LIFE. Her role in ZERO DARK THIRTY was fairly 2-dimensional, though some will say that's a reflection on the kind of person the character is. She was good and focused, but I found Jennifer Ehle (as a fellow agent) more interesting.
Jennifer Lawrence seems fun and likable (but I hear she did have two helpings of the entree at the Golden Globes dinner)
cosign with r33. Ehle was charismatic and interesting in a small part. I barely remember the name of Chastain's character.
Lawrence's attempt to be cute backfired. Fortunately, the nominations were already out before the awards. She could have easily been another Sally Hawkins.
[quote]Jennifer is... relatable,
That's not a real word.
[quote]Right. Jennifer Larence smugly disses Meryl Streep, and is so full of herself that you just want her to shut up.
Would you stop already? That was meant as a joke. You should be more pissed off at Jessica Chastain for not acknowledging Ron Howard as her father.
Wallis will win. There won't be a black winner in the other three acting categories and these days at least one black has to win.
[quote]Enough with the Ron Howard nonsense. I realize Chastain looks a bit like Bryce Dallas Howard (Ron's actual actress daughter), but come on.
A bit? They look identical, tell me that's not an accident.
Gotta agree with The Streep Troll on this one. It's astonishing, frustrating and depressing that the Oscar race is between Jennifer Lawrence (a likable actress who is moderately good in SLP) and Jessica Chastain (a non-entity who is woefully miscast in the generic ZD30). It's shameful that these bland performances are considered more likely to win than the towering performances of Emmanuelle Riva and Naomi Watts; it's thoroughly criminal that the extraordinary performances of Marion Cotillard, Rachel Weisz and Michelle Williams were snubbed for Lawrence, Chastain and Quebooboo.
Worst Best Actress Race Ever.
I'm kind of hoping Naomi Watts will pull a surpise, like when Jessica Lange won for the tiny film "Blue Sky".
I mean, the Academy still owes her one for "Mulholland Drive", maybe that'll get her some votes in a race with such weak front-runners.
I don;t remember Jessica Lange being surprise that year--it was a weak field, and it seemed to me at the time everyone predicted she'd win because she was due a Best Actress award (and should have won for "Country" or for "Swwet Dreams" a few years back).
Naomi Watts is certainly due one, and again it's a weak field. Emmanuelle Riva gave the best female performance of the year, IMO, but it's very rare for people to win acting prizes for foreign films unless the rest of the field was weak. I thought Chastain's role was too small and uninteresting for her to win (though I agree she did a lot with a two-dimensional part), and to me jennifer Lawrence was just channeling Renee Zellweger in JERRY MAGUIRE--she wasn;'t interesting to me at all. And I don;t think childrens hould win for these prizes--a six year-old is not 'acting" the way adults do it. So I'd be happy with a career win for Watts or a win for Riva.
Naomi Watts goes around screaming and bleeding during the first half and during the second is bound to a bed with an oxigen mask. That is not a "towering performance". The kid is the only lead in the film. Cotillard was robbed.
People here are quick to dismiss Lawrence and Chastain just because they have no "GIMME AN OSCAR!!" scene like "I Dreamed a Dream", they are not playing a historical character or someone with a physical disability or because they don't go around hamming it up like Sally Field or Jessica Lange (Blue Sky is a POS and her win was ridiculous), so they call them "non-entities" or "bland". They gave two of the best performances of the year and most of the critics agreed.
[quote]and most of the critics agreed
I see someone does not have much faith in his own opinions.
No, bitch r47, just stating the facts because some of you act like it was a surprised that the race came down to these two, when they've been getting praise since the beginning.
Well, it may be rare that a foreign actor/actress wins... but Marion did it in 2007 and that was by no means a weak field.
So did Robert Benigni and again, it wasn't considered a weak field.
So, Riva has three things going for her... people readily admit she gave one of the strongest performances, Voters might just throw their vote her way thinking that Lawrence or Chastain have it in the bag... and she's old.
Watts is amazing in The Impossible because it's both a tremendously physically demanding role and her character goes through hell and back. She portrays that with respectful subtlety. It's a glorious performance in a magnificent film.
The winner better be Watts or Riva or the Academy will be a laughing stock.
JL was great in SLP, but I think that she plays the same role - the plucky young underdog that takes on the big adults. She great at this, very charismatic, but she hasn't really shown a huge range.
JC was great in ZDT. The character doesn't have much dimension, but she was compelling and pretty scary.
R37. Bless you--I've been campaigning against that word for years.
I liked Jessica in ZD30. I thought she played the right balance between obssessive and competent. I especially loved her final scene. I also think Kathryn Bigelow did a good job directing.
I don't think Jennifer did a single damned thing to deserve an Oscar except hook up with Harvey and David O Russell. I don't want Jennifer to win because I can't stand either guy, and I won't be able to listen to her thank them. Especially Russell who is a pig as far as I'm concerned. There are few people in H'wood nastier than David O Russell.
If the final outcome at the Oscars is Jessica Chastain, Daniel day lewis, Alan Arkin and Sally Field I will be fine. Put it another way. I don't want Jennifer or Bradley Cooper, or Anne Hathaway to win. Ugh.
ZDT was great, as was Chastain.
Silverlining was good, but overhyped. Jennifer Lawrence was good but nothing to write home about.
The Oscar should definitely go to Chastain.
I haven't seen either of the films so here's my uninformed and shallow opinion; Jennifer Lawrence seems full of herself and looks a bit like Rene Zellweger. Another vote for Chastain.
why do you queens always insist on pitting women against each other? There is enough room for more than one actress to be successful. Stop acting like you know where they've been, who they are, how deserving they are or are not. Stop insisting that people choose between one or the other. Go wash your asshole and get rid of that nasty gay face.
I loved Shilver Linings!
Me too, Iiza!
I haven't seen either film yet, but I'll say this...a friend of mine worked on The Help and said JC was super nice. She was friendly and real with everyone and spent a lot of time talking with the extras. I like JL a lot but friends who have seen SLP say ther performance isn't really Oscar worthy.
Little Q. Wallis was great and I'm thrilled she was nominated, but again, not worthy of a win.
How old is Chastain? She looks really old. I don't plan on watching that torture porn film she stars in anytime soon.
"How old is Chastain? She looks really old."
She doesn't look "really old", you moron.
Lawrence was good in SLP but too young for the part.
Riva should win.
My hunch is that Watts will win since Chastain will split the vote with Lawrence.
Lawrence is good but not great. The love for her is just odd--very odd.
Part of why people love Jennifer Lawrence is because she has a very tiny, tiny waist.
Such a tiny waist is an ideal body characteristic to men who find it ultra-alluring.
And women covet and envy her tiny waist.
[quote]Right. Jennifer Larence smugly disses Meryl Streep, and is so full of herself that you just want her to shut up.
It wasn't a diss, you twit.
The line is from The First Wives Club.
Bette Midler picks up an award on Goldie Hawn's apartment and it says something like "I Beat Meryl Streep".
Please turn in your GAY card on the way out the door.
David O Russell gossip please!
The last person I want to see win is Jessica Chastain. She's so blah.
Unlike Hathaway, I don't think Lawrence was trying to diss Meryl. I think the problem people have with it, or the reason they think it was a diss, was because she's young. If someone like Glenn Close, Sally Field, Jodie Foster, etc. would have said the same thing Lawrence did, people would have just laughed.
People just don't think Lawrence has "earned" a right to make a comment like that and so, it came off wrong.
At the same time, if she had made the comments that Hathaway did, people would have just chalked that up to her being young, but they wouldn't have thought she was taking a dig. Then again, Lawrence isn't a cunt like Hathaway, so she gets a pass.
Chastain has more of a range than Jennifer Lawrence does.
[quote]a friend of mine worked on The Help and said JC was super nice. She was friendly and real with everyone and spent a lot of time talking with the extras.
Well I should hope so. She might as well have been an extra. No one knew who the hell she was back then.
Jessica Chastain is a hustler who didn't give up until she started getting major roles. Many of her 30+ peers who wanted to be "stars" are now married in the suburbs in New Jersey whereas Jessica is getting #1 after #1 film and making investors happy.
J.Law is very talented.She can pick good projects to work on. She's beautiful and young and chameleon-like, as she never looks the same twice (event or film role) and can morph herself into a character like no other young actress under 30.'
They should do a "tie" for these two.
Lawrence wins, just because she's young. Hollywood loves youth, particularly young women. If a good script comes along with a role for a woman of Chastain's age, Hollywood is going to offer it to Lawrence first, and tell the writer to make the character younger.
In Hollywood, getting offered the scripts first means you win.
"They should do a "tie" for these two."
Of course you are entitled to your opinion. But have you seen Amour?
Chastain is a much better actress than Lawrence who has very limited range. Chastain deserves it. It will be interesting to see who gets it.
Lawrence has limited range? She's played completely different character types in all of her biggest roles.
They're both great actresses. ZDT required nothing of Chastain, though. Lawrence should win.
Seriously, this is a thread? I give up. Jennifer Lawrence v. Jessica Chastain, as if it matter at all. Fuck, this is what I hate about us. As if people have to choose one over the other, when they're both totally forgettable. Fuck off, OP.
The fireman "father" is her stepfather, and a food truck vegan chef did not even become a viable career choice till the last 5 or so years.
And she comes from MARIN COUNTY, you know, that's money, big money firemen can't live in Marin County.
And Howard is her real last name, yet her past is shrouded in a lot of "mystery".
Don't have an opinion either way about Lawrence vs. Chastain, but will say that if Chastain does win the Oscar she is going to have to answer some hardcore questions about her past. She'll be firmly A-list, no more prevaricating for her on the subject. If she has skeletons she needs to be working with her PR team to sketch out how to deal with them now.
"will say that if Chastain does win the Oscar she is going to have to answer some hardcore questions about her past."
Say what? Celebrities do have the right to keep their private lives private if they wish, something that's easy to forget in the age of Reality TV. They wouldn't have to answer the "hardcore questions", even if there was anyone to ask them, as the entertainment media would rather print whatever they get from the publicists, than ask anything awkward.
And it's not like Chastain is rumored to have done anything wrong. If anyone has any reason to cover up the past, it's Ron Howard.
Ok we need some researchers here. WTF is the "fireman"'s name? WTF is Chastain's mother's name?
Actually, not true. She can win and still keep her privacy. Celebrities, who have all their personal info everywhere, the majority of the time have it everywhere because they're whoring themselves out.
Chastian can collect her award, keep being quiet, and people will just accept that that's the way she is and move on.
Why not? Foster did it for years and so does Blanchett, Mirren, Dench. Everyone's got personal shit that could be considered juicy... some just get more interest because theyre intentionally playing the game to cram themselves down your throat.
Fontaine Hurell is an escort.
From The oscars luncheon Quotes,
Jennifer Lawrence, Best Actress nominee, Silver Linings Playbook: “Last time was comfort. This year I’m like, ‘Suck it up. Wear a corset.’ I’m going to go for fashion this time. I saw that, but that’s the problem with the Oscars. They’re always at the end and you are exhausted from dressing up. Eating normally calms me down. I remember before the Oscars I was wearing that skintight dress and I ate a Philly cheese steak and fries and was like, ‘This is definitely going to help.’ Which it didn’t because I had to double my Spanx.”
“It’s very calm at my house. Nobody in my family has fully absorbed it. I can talk about other things than myself, which is great. And then the night of the Oscars, everybody just gets wasted and has a blast.”
And then Jessica Chastain;
“Most little girls dream about their wedding dresses but I always dreamed about my Oscar dress. “
“A strange thing happens this time of year. It starts to feel like it’s a race. Acting is very different than playing tennis. You don’t put two people in a room and we match it out. For me, I feel like I’ve already won. I never want to lose sight of what I feel right now being in this business and being nominated.”
Two VERY different people, Jennifer not really giving a shit, Jessica saying all the right things to say?
I'm team -anyone but Anne Hathaway-.
Unfortunately these 2 ladies are up for lead awards, cuz I would Stan for anyone who could silence Anne for an entire award season
Jessica will lose cuz ppl were told not to vote for her or Weinstein will shelve all their movies. A shame really. They have such different attitudes about acting. Lawrence might be okay if she doesn't win, Chastain is literally all acting all the time go H.A.M or go home.
Jessica Chastain's secrets are being revealed, poor girl
her bio dad, DIED LAST WEEK, suddenly at age 55. (app. not Ron Howard)
her 24 yr old sister, past away too
her mom fled from her father and changed everyones last name
idk what was going on in this family
Relax! Everyone amily problems.
You bitches probably have more skeletons in your closets than half of hollywood combined
When jess was 26 her sister took her own life, sadly
So if Jessica Chastain's last name really was "Howard," where did it come from? According to the Radar Online story, her biological father's last name was "Monasterio," and her stepfather's last name is "Hastey."
None of this makes sense.
Search for her fathers name on Facebook , apparently he has been posting about Jessica all the time, with baby pics, stories and everything
Jess looks NOTHING like her sister, they were only a year apart in age
Jessica Chastains mom had her at 16!
It makes sense tho, the story says she ran away from him, took the kids, and changed their last names
Anyways that Facebook profile fills in all the gaps , I'm surprised no press had found it before. He talks about the whole family, mentions her by name, her movies, even how he couldn't get out of bed when her mom left hin
Her real age is 38?
Her name was Howard because her mother changed it to hide from the biological dad. Her biological dad, Michael Monasterio, looks exactly like Jessica. He admits on his facebook he was 17 when he fathered her, so given he died at 55 this year makes Jessica 38. Her sister Juliet who reconciled with her biological father committed suicide 10 years ago. He spilled so many deets it's unbelievable. Jessica's PR team must have been shitting themselves now.
She needs Blake livelys PR team right now. Just deny everything, and we'll all have to take their word for it
What can her PR team do? Deny? I am sure every magazines and bloggers are screencaping his FB like it's their fucking job. Seems like there are more skeletons to dig out. She will have hard time responding to rumors about her bio dad, yet to how her sister died and the real age.
Could someone link the fathers Fb page?
I was just the other day saying, Chastain came out of almost literally nowhere, and now she's on every magazine cover, on all the gossip pages and infotainment shows ... I don't get why. She's just a typical actress.
She is 38
Her sister shot herself in the head with a shotgun at their dads house. Mom gave birth to Jessica at 16, sister a year and half later. Dad was 17
Read at the dads FB: e.michaelmonasterio
Much as I like both Jennifer Lawrence AND SLP, in my opinion Emmanuelle Riva should win Best Actress, hands down. And for that matter, I also feel Amour should win both Best Foreign Film AND Best Film.
Jessica Monasterio? Sounds like a Mob Wives girl! I don't think she's that afraid of the Italian connection ,her boyfriend/possible beard is from Italy.
On second thought her father could be part Mexican and that would make Jessica part Latina! Who knew.....
I didn't find her father's Facebook page. Several Michael Monasterio pages came up.
R106 search for e.michaelmonasterio or just copy/paste it after the Facebook part
Says he was dating a Lisa D'Mateo (not to be confused with the epic, show stopping Lisa D'amato from ANTM)
Watch out her dad fb being closed by her pr team. He provided more receipts than Whitney would wish!
Jennifer Lawrence supports her gays. Don't know about Jessica Chastain.
Well considering she's likely a lesbian, I'd say she does too, R109.
She's really 38? First she said she was in her late 20s, then it was revealed she's actually 35 and now it turns out she's 38? Wtf? She's the new Catherine Zeta Jones?
R109 Chastain's sisters a lesbian, so...
Check out Daily Mail. They are covering this story, including pictures and comments from her dad FB.
The DM is a shit rag
You all could write me in. I did home movies. I'm so wonderful. Really. Brilliant like.
Well Adele, you do have the same chin as Jessica...
Am I onto something here?!?
Huh, I went to that dudes fbook and did some math and JChast is not 38, she's like 35/36
JLaw is 22
Jennifer Chastain is a likable person.
I don't get all the DL hate. I quite enjoyed her as Celia in The Help.
[quote]I was just the other day saying, Chastain came out of almost literally nowhere
She did several movies over the course of 5 years, but by chance they all happened to be released last year. So, in actuality she should have been on the scene much sooner and would have had a more normal public introduction. She's very talented, in any case.
Who the fuck cares how old JC is.
35 or 38, she looks great, especially for a pale white woman whose skin is very delicate.
Jennifer Lawrence has no eyelids, what the hell is that about.
I am not a fan.
Now that I've seen both The Impossible and Silver Linings Playbook, I can't understand why Jennifer Lawrence is the frontrunner for the Oscar. She gave a fine performance for sure, but Naomi's performance was so incredibly strong and moving, that Oscar should be hers already!
[quote]Who the fuck cares how old JC is.
Don't you get it? Chastain is not being honest with her age.
R121 because she is part Albino
R122, Lawrence was in/is still in The Hunger Games juggernaut. Plus she's YOUNG, which trumps everything in Hollywood. They can make money off her for years to come. Also, Hollywood runs on hype and the hype this year was Lawrence was the one to beat.
I like Jenn Lawrence but the hype might be created by possibly having had Heavy Whalestein's tube steak in her mouth!She's not the first and she won't be the last. Just ask his new victim Jessica Alba......
I like Jessica Chastain especially now that her real name is a Spanish last name. She's been hiding her Latino heritage ,I wonder why?I wonder if all the Latinos will claim her now.
I agree with OP.
Jessica Chastain's speech at the Golden Globes showed an appalling sense of entitlement and resentment toward Hollywood for not recognizing her "greatness" sooner. She came across as bitter, essentially saying "It's about time!"
I wonder if she knows she's a ginger and that she'll never be as popular as other white girls owing to NOBODY'S FAULT.
Attractions and tastes of the majority are mostly unconscious and that's never going to change much.
I wonder if Chastain thinks we should all HAVE to see her or HAVE to want her.
There's a Tracy Flick quality to Chastain that I just can't approve of. Too ambitious, too entitled; too angry.
R127 She might be part Mexican judging from her dad's last name so she might be mixed like a Cameron Diaz. Judging by immigration patterns her dad's family wasn't comprised of white Mexicans.
I like both and I can't see why anyone would hate them beyond their acting/nominations as they're pretty inoffensive and not yet media whores who are everywhere or doing the desperation thing a la Hathaway. Haven't saw any acceptance speeches or anything to particularly annoy me.
Lawrence has annoyed me a bit recently with the SNL skit and her making a face at Riva at the BAFTAs (typed Oscars there first, let's hope!), but overall for a young actress and a sex kitten one at that she's pretty sorted. Great in Winter Bone and Hunger Games is the one book/film franchise I can get on board with.
Jessie is cool, I find her back story or lack of especially fascinating. Emerging at the age of 35 is pretty unique, usually 30 is the latest at least for a female star. I would have believed she was younger as well. If she is Ron Howard's daughter though I'll be very disappointed. She was good in ZDT but didn't blow me away (ho ho), but I love her range and I love that she's a hot ginge and can do the sex kitten thing and go on lads mags.
Both very new but so far I go with Queen Jess