C-list "celebs" that no one cares about.
The A-list does not come out. Never has and it'll be a long time before anyone (in the thick of their career) ever will.
Matt Bomer?
Jim Parsons and Zach Quinto were the best. Casually referring to themselves as gay while doing an interview about other topics.
Luke Macfarlane all the way!
I thought Ricky Martin's and Frank Ocean's posts were some of the most beautiful stuff I've ever read on the net.
So, apparently Jodie Foster didn't really come out last night.
Ellen, certainly. I think she's by far the best. Plus, she's A List now and was at least B+ List when she came out.
Luke McFarlane?!? no....he came out ...tried to go back in when he became famous...then came out again...no.
That's Luke Evans, you freaking dumbass.
"Jim Parsons and Zach Quinto were the best."
Also Jonathan Groff. Not as famous as these guys at the time, but still, very well done.
Zachary Quinto is certainly up there.
I could quibble and argue that it should have been done a year earlier when he first got involved in the "It Gets Better" campaign and when he was originally asked by The New York Times and evaded the question, but he saw the error of his ways in the year following and quickly realized what the right thing to do was.
Cynthia had that weird "I wasn't gay during my marriage" thing last year that hurt her gay rep.
Was Groff ever in R10? As soon as it came up he was open about beig gay which is awesome and better but a different question.
Zachary Quinto is hot so I'll have to agree!
I guess John Barrowman has been out for a long time, certainly since his involvement with Doctor Who and Torchwood. I don't think he was out back in his U.S. t.v. days in the 1990's, though.
Kristy McNichol broke over 2 decades of silence to come out, adding her voice and face to the anti-bullying movement. She's a real sweetie, no two ways about it.
On the other hand, Jim McGreevey. What a shitshow. His poor wife, that skeezy non-citizen boy toy in a patronage job, an actual press conference.
McGeevey was hilarious!
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There was a lot of screaming on DL re Cynthia Nixon.
I think Jane Lynch's was good, though I forget how it went.
Johnny Mathis' was the best (and he did it in like 1982.)
Um, HELLO!
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Worst? Anne Heche.
No love for Neil Patrick Harris??
Martina Navratilova?
She came out when she was still at the height of her career.
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[quote]No love for Neil Patrick Harris??
He was outed.
I went to grade school with Cynthia Nixon. She quasi-flirted with me on First Avenue in 1982. Natural blonde. Never pinged at all for me. Had a boyfriend for fifteen years.
Still processing that one.
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Cynthia Nixon has like a sexuality all of her own that no other creature comes close to..... She had children with an [childish epithet posted by a bigoted tool] straight men then married a butch lesbian who looks like a man. Just plain odd.
huh....we can't say effeminatte?
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R30 I guess you can if you misspell it.
R8, Luke McFarlane has not been in since I became aware of him on Brothers & Sisters.
R9, Who? (you freaking mentioner of the non-famous)
R10, has Jonathan Groff ever been in?
r7, Ellen is great and she came out through a great struggle but I would hardly call it the 'most flawless'.
She got some hard knocks which she didn't deserve. First she was criticized for coming out too slowly- over the course of her show. Then it was "Just for publicity". Then she was lambasted for supposedly being 'too gay' (which was total bullshit, thanks, CHAZ.)
None of that bothered me. What bothered me was that after it was all said and done, she couldn't even accept the word 'lesbian' because it "sounded like a disease."
Again, I love the woman and will always be amazed and in admiration for her coming out- but it was not flawless.
In fact, most every one has bumps and bruises during this process, this is part of the reason it's so hard to do. If it were easy, well, everyone would do it.
[quote]Martina Navratilova? She came out when she was still at the height of her career.
Actually Martina N, to her credit, came out just before she was about to hit the absolute peak of her career. Her total domination of tennis happened after she came out, not before.
Ok yeah she claimed to be bisexual back then but in her defense she was worried that her US citizenship application might be rejected due to her sexuality. In any case it took a lot of guts and Martina deserves respect for her courage.
r29. I'm pretty sure she's bisexual. The media just loves to use the word lesbian and can't write about anything outside the box.
I thought Ellen admitting that she was Lebanese on Rosie's show was clever. And then Ro saying in mock wonderment, "We'll maybe I'm also Lebanese!!" , was pretty funny.
Oh yeah! I remember that moment!
OMG remember how *controversial* it was! It's really eye-opening to look back and see some of the footage and old press releases going around about about it all back then.
Remember the national HRC sponsored coming out parties? You could write in for a "kit" that would have HRC info and coming out advice and flyers to have lying around for your Ellen party.
The media really played along with the "is she/isn't she?" hype! There were people in flyover country denying it up until the day she officially came out.
Oh, And Rosie. I recall people saying, "but she's just joking!" it was kind of disgusting how people would deny it.
Most of you are naming people as "coming out" when they were actually forced out kicking and screaming, while pointing at all their previous beards. Besides, what courage does it take to be out these days? Go back in history and look at a man named Ramon Navarro, or the boy who lost his career after he told Walt Disney that he is homosexual. There are plenty of people in history who should have awards named after them. Some for courage, and many more for extreme cowardice. I certainly think that the "Roy Cohn" award should be given every year to the prominent American who is himself or herself suspected of being a closet-case, would usually be a politician like Rick Santorum, who makes the most hateful statements against homosexuals.
Ellen. Period. Trailblazer.
Who gives a shit how people come out? Do you people want to come up with some acceptable guidelines so that celebrities know the right way to come out that will meet your standards? I think that would be helpful.
Then you can stop bitching that no one is doing it right.
People here complain that celebrities don't come out. Then they come out and they're criticized for the manner in which they do it.
It's riduclous.
I always liked David Hyde Pierce's response to questions about his sexual identity: "My life is an open book. That doesn't mean I have to read it to you."
Also, Nathan Lane was pretty funny about it: "Look, I'm 40, I'm single, and I work in musical theater - you do the math!"
R42, in the case of those two, they had both basically refused to officially confirm that they were gay until the last minute. It was during the exchange you mention that Nathan Lane finally did, and it was some time after that when David Hyde Pierce finally confirmed it when he acknowledged his boyfriend while winning an award.
What about Chad Allen?
Even though I think he was outed, he ha worked hard in subsequent years to make a positive impact. He was on several of Larry King's panels several years ago facing off against anti-gay priests before gay marriage had as much public support as it does now.
David Hyde Pierce isn't a good example of a graceful coming out, in my opinion.
Mo Rocca came out very nonchalantly, if I recall correctly.
Cynthia "I chose to be gay" Nixon's coming out was not so much classy, as it was detrimental to actual gay people who were born this way.
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Word, R46. Her and Anne Heche.
And that goes for goddam Amber Heard too. Knock it off, ladies.
Anderson Cooper came out eloquently.
R46. CN also made reference to her girlfriend's butchness. Implying that it was her masculinity that attracted her and not her partner being a woman.
[quote]In any case it took a lot of guts and Martina deserves respect for her courage.
Agree. It was much, much tougher for her than for Foster, who, basically, lived a sheltered life.
Ellen's to this day is one of the most respectable. In part because it was anything but flawless.
Stop saying that. It was a joke!
I think it is impossible to do a "flawless" or "normal" coming out. Actually, I think Jodie's was the most natural.
Give me a break, R53. It was anything but natural.