Natalie Wood bruised, scratched before drowning, coroner report says
A fresh coroner's review of Natalie Wood's autopsy found that the actress had several fresh bruises and scratches on her arm, wrist and neck that likely occurred before she landed in the Pacific Ocean and drowned.
The supplemental report, which was released on Monday, said that it could not verify that those injuries were caused by a fall off a dinghy or attempt to climb back into the boat, which has long been the theory of how she died on Nov. 29, 1981, off Catalina Island.
The Los Angeles County Sheriff's Department re-opened the case in November 2011 and the coroner later changed the cause of death from accidental to drowning and other undetermined factors.
n supporting that change, Dr. Lakshmanan Sathyavagiswaran filed a supplemental report dated June 15, 2012, that found that Wood died shortly after she entered the water.
"The location of the bruises, the multiplicity of the bruises, lack of head trauma, or facial bruising support bruising having occurred prior to the entry into the water," the supplemental report states.
Coroner's report into the death of Natalie Wood
"Since there are many unanswered questions and limited additional evidence available for evaluation, it is opined by this Medical Examiner that the manner of death should be left as undetermined."
The original dinghy could not be examined for scratches and no nail clippings from Wood were kept to be examined further, leaving new investigators unable to confirm that the actress might have been injured by the boat.
The coroner's report also found there were conflicting statements as to when Wood went missing and whether she argued with her husband, Robert Wagner.
Coroner's estimate, based on her stomach contents, that she died about midnight. The first report of her missing came at 1:30 a.m. on Nov. 29, 1981, according to the report.
The coroner said he could not rule out "non-volitional, unplanned entry into the water."
At the time of her death, officials ruled that Wood's drowning death while boating off Santa Catalina Island was an accident, but speculation remained.
On Thanksgiving weekend 1981, Wagner and Wood had invited actor Christopher Walken to be their guest on Catalina aboard their boat, the Splendour. On the evening of Nov. 28, they had dinner and drinks at Doug's Harbor Reef. They returned to the boat and continued to drink until a heated argument erupted between the two men.
Wagner told The Times in 2008 that the argument concerned how much of one's personal life should be sacrificed in pursuit of one's career; he was upset that Walken was advocating that Wood give her all to her art, even at the expense of her husband and children.
Wood left to go to the master cabin's bathroom. Wagner says he and Walken eventually calmed down and said good night. When he went to bed, he says, Wood wasn't there. It is believed that the yacht's dinghy had come loose and that Wood came up on deck to tie it up.
"I have gone over it so many millions of times with people. Nobody heard anything," Wagner told The Times in 2008.
- [quote]"I have gone over it so many millions of times with people. Nobody heard anything," Wagner told The Times in 2008.
Somebody heard something. Hope Wagner's lawyered up:
"A woman’s voice, crying for help from drowning awakened [businessman John Payne] and he awakened me," Wayne said in her statement. "'Help me, someone please help me, I’m drowning' we heard repeatedly. Alarmed, I called out to my son, who also heard the cries, and looked at his new digital watch: it was just minutes after 11:00 P.M."
Wayne says they called the harbor patrol (who didn't answer) after deciding it was too dangerous to jump into the water themselves. Not long after, she heard a "man's voice slurred, and in aggravated tone, say something to the effect of, "Oh, hold on, we’re coming to get you,” and not long after, the cries for help subsided, but we heard the cries for up to 15 minutes."
- bump
- And when they met... it was murder.
Stephanie%20Powers
- Do you think that Robert Wagner is sweating?
- Maybe it was a three-way with RJ and Walken that got pretty rough? Maybe Natalie liked it that way.
- According to the captain, he watched as Natalie and Wagner argued on the back deck, he pushed her back, she fell over the side, and they were all in alcoholic blackouts and had no idea what the hell was going on. The sad thing is Wagner probably doesn't even remember he murdered his wife.
- ...what about the dinghy then?
- Too little, too late.
Nothing is going to happen in this investigation 30 years later, so why bother bringing all this up again?
- Alcoholic blackouts are myths. If someone is that incapacitated that they did not remember an event than they ususally go into a coma or pass out.
Granted, Wagner was a big boozer. Walkin is freaky-weird, and poor Natalie was a tragic victim. This scenario is almost Kennedy-esque.
Booze + asshole husband + bisexual weirdo actor friend + sailing = dead woman.
- [quote]Alcoholic blackouts are myths.
And climate change is a hoax too?
- r9, I've had many alcoholic black-outs and not a single coma.
[quote]According to the captain, he watched as Natalie and Wagner argued on the back deck, he pushed her back, she fell over the side,
link to this assertion by the captain, please.
- let sleeping dogs lie
Ted%20Kennedy.%20%20Edward%20if%20you%27re%20nasty.%20%20
- Where are all the tin hats screaming that it's for publicity?
Are the police still trying to sell those WSS DVD's?
- [quote]Nothing is going to happen in this investigation 30 years later
Just like the Robert Wone murder case that the DC cops botched so badly. He was stabbed to death in a home occupied by a gay trouple in August 2006. The cops don't want to even look at it because it will highlight all their errors. Meanwhile the trio are free to play.
- [quote]Dr. Lakshmanan Sathyavagiswaran
Sounds like a character in a bad eldergay joke.
- Blackouts a myth? That's one of the first signs you're an alcoholic or problem drinker. Lots of people blackout and secretly wonder where they left their car and did they kill someone. Not a myth at all.
- Here you go, R16
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Are you saying Robert W's blackout was a lie, op?
- I don't understand why they make a point of saying that RJ is not a suspect at the same time they say they don't know what happened. It seems to me that RJ, Walken, and the yacht's captain are all suspects. I certainly don't think it was premeditated murder. Most likely she died as a result of an accident caused by the use of alcohol and possibly other drugs by everyone on the Splendour.
- Cops never have suspects anymore -- at most, they have a "person of interest."
- I had many alcoholic blackouts, beginning very early in my drinking career. They scared hell out of me, but not enough to make me quit for more than a few days.
R9 has his head up his ass.
- I remember reading about all the lies they caught RW in. Why would he lie if he was innocent? I don't remember what all the lies were but I do remember there were several of them.
- R11, the captain's assertion from Huffington Post:
Now never-before-heard audiotapes of Lana Wood discussing her sister's drowning have been obtained by CBS News. Biographer Suzanne Finstad collected the recordings as part of research for her 2001 book, "Natasha: The Biography of Natalie Wood." In the recordings, Lana says that boat captain Dennis Davern had called her while in a state of intoxication and claimed that Wagner had not helped Wood after he had accidentally pushed his wife overboard. Wagner is referred to in the recording as "RJ."
"He said it appeared to him as though RJ shoved her away and she went overboard. Dennis panicked and RJ said, 'Leave her there. Teach her a lesson.' Dennis said he was very panicky that he was sitting and RJ just kept drinking and drinking. And he'd say, 'Come on, let's get her.' And he said RJ was in such a roil mood, at the point, that he then shut up and was waiting for when, when are they gonna go to her rescue, until all the sound stopped."
The statement mirrors what Davern would claim at least 10 years later. In November 2011, the police reopened the investigation of Wood's death. The same month, a somber Davern appeared on the "Today Show" and publicly declared Wagner responsible for Wood's death.
- [quote]"He said it appeared to him as though RJ shoved her away and she went overboard. Dennis panicked and RJ said, 'Leave her there. Teach her a lesson.' Dennis said he was very panicky that he was sitting and RJ just kept drinking and drinking. And he'd say, 'Come on, let's get her.' And he said RJ was in such a roil mood, at the point, that he then shut up and was waiting for when, when are they gonna go to her rescue, until all the sound stopped."
WTF, captain Dennis? Couldn't you have saved her yourself? What, did RJ need to hold your hand? I don't understand this.
It's amazing to me that Wood was only 43 when she died. I always have in my mind that she was much older.
- They should dig her up. Just because.
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- hold on, I've got Jill's number somewhere
- Sad...
- Even if all the rumors are true about RJ being drunk and ignoring Natalie after she went overboard, which really can't be proved, it sounds like RJ didn't intentionally cause her death. Also, his judgment was impaired for any negligent homicide charges. Why would the authorities spend all that money on a celebrity who would lawyer up and probably win?
- And why didn't the Captain speak up decades sooner. He is as much to blame as anyone. Or the sister (Lana) he told this stuff to.
- This new report is nothing but sensational speculation. The coroner has no idea how Natalie got those bruises. To suggest his theory is the only way she could have gotten the bruises is hardly the stuff of a good ME.
But if I had fallen into the water and was desperately trying to get back on the boat or the dinghy I would likely get bruised in the process - bruised from the initial falling off the boat (ankles easily and maybe hands & wrists from trying to break my fall) and bruised probably repeatedly trying to clamber back onto something. So of course these bruises would be before her death but not necessarily indicative of anything except a struggle to stay out of or get out of the water. If there were any waves or splashing then she could have easily been hit numerous times by hard objects causing bruising.
Robert Wagner is not nor was he ever powerful or rich enough to prevent a prosecution had there been credible evidence that he had some involvement in a murder.
- Poor thing, raped by evil Kirk Douglas then murdered by her husband. Jesus.
- RJ knows what happened. And now everyone else does too. He has to live with it. And he knows it. He betrayed her in so many ways. The first time she left him was because of another man. The second time she left him was because RJ wasn't enough of a man.
- R30= Christopher Walken
- [quote]They should dig her up. Just because.
So as to pose her in interesting positions?
- Yes, r33. You're absolutely right. So glad you posted that.
- Damn I wish DL had audio and I could do a Christopher Walken mimic. Maybe even through in that funny dance.
Christo er I mean R30