Why was he allowed to be there in the first place?
The first thing I saw right when the show started was him and Downey Jr. cackling at each other.
The poor fool looked so astounded by Foster's discussion of her sexuality that it seemed as though she'd brought him there to astonish him.
I retract that; he's not a "poor fool." He's a fool, certainly, but unforgivable.
But surely Mel must have known by now, yes?
Such a weird friendship. Wish I could wrap my head around it. I mean, I think Jody feels somewhat sorry for Mel and I guess he feels sorry for her because he is sure she is going to hell? Just strange.
Exactly, R5. He's a close friend to her and her family. Of course he knew she was gay. I think a lot of posters are projecting this supposed 'astonishment' at her "declaration". She obviously was pretty nervous about her speech, and I think it says a lot that she needed him there for support.
I think his discomfort had to do with the reception he was getting in the room. I know Gibson is an insufferable asshole, but I do think he suffers from mental illness and is an alcoholic. Maybe Jodie sees more to him, being his friend and all, then the rest of us do. I don't know, her mysterious "you know you saved me" shout-out to him makes me wonder if he wasn't there for her in a really difficult period of her life, which is why she sticks by him no matter what foul thing comes out of his mouth.
To me, Foster has always come across a little shaky in her personal life. I think Hinckley fucked her up big-time and she's obviously never recovered, hence her panic-level need for privacy.
He looked gobsmacked, but surely he knew she is gay - I think that was just his regular expression. Supposedly they've been close for 20 years, she put him in the Beaver, and was a vocal defender of his during the height of his troubles a few years ago, as was RDJ. What I don't get is how he reconciles his fundamentalist Catholicism with her being gay. Love the sinner, hate the sin? He's always seemed so incredibly extreme on the religious stuff, not to mention being a misogynist, racist and anti-Semite, at least when he's drunk and/or threatening his girlfriend. It's hard to imagine him being cool with the gay.
If he's a big an asshole as the stories indicate, it sure seems like his outside has grown to reflect his inside.
We have Gibson apologists now?
I think R7 is correct. She has compassion for Mel, because he was raised by a complete psycho, so a lot of his thinking has been damaged by that. He's an alcoholic too so that just adds to the insanity that he has anyway...
I remember her saying in an interview that he was someone she could always count on. I guess there is more to this guy than his hate.
R10, it's one thing for her to say that we should look at the complete picture of someone - but she's never been willing to do the reverse and look at Mel's bad qualities and racism that so many people find offensive.
Maybe Mel and Jodie are pals because each sees an aspect of their own parent in one another, and is trying to win them over - their love, their approval, being understood etc.
Mel Gibson - Says racist shit when he's drunk. Apologizes. Says them again, admits he has a drinking problem, apologizes... People rightfully hate him for a while, but then continue to do so and find him unforgivable.
Jamie Foxx - Says racist shit when he's sober, despises white people and makes no bones about it... loved and lauded with awards and movie roles.
Help me understand the double standard, because I don't.
What racist shit did Jamie Foxx say? Honestly clueless.
This thread isn't about Jamie Foxx, hijacker.
When Mel Gibson was the no. 1 movie star in the world he picked her for his leading lady in Maverick, and she's never forgotten his generous attempt to make audiences see her as a conventionally feminine (straight) leading lady. She's loyal; she won't ditch a friend in need. I knew her a little at Yale -- I was in law school when she was an undergrad -- and she struck me then as a nice girl who took care of people she liked. The film industry respects and protects her. So many of them are dropouts and semiliterate that they idealize her. She's the smart, educated, accomplished, tasteful daughter, sister, girlfriend, wife they wish they had. I loved her best from Alice Doesn't Live Here Anymore and Taxi through Silence. After that she got so tight and joyless in her work -- like one of those dehydrated Woody Allen characters in his more "meaningful" movies. I'm also not convinced she's all that smart. Her speech last night was pretty confusing and self-involved. After so many years to think about her place in the world, how can she refuse to see what a role model she could have been to gay girls and boys? And can still be. Yet the primary issue to her remains privacy.
[quote]The poor fool looked so astounded by Foster's discussion of her sexuality that it seemed as though she'd brought him there to astonish him.
I think she may not have told him what the speech was going to be about. It looked to me that he was surprised, if not stunned, at what he was hearing. And you could tell he was nervous for her.
So... here is another "I heard from a friend who has a friend" thing. A friend of mine is friends with a woman who knows Mel and according to her he is a nice guy and a good friend.
[quote]A friend of mine is friends with a woman who knows Mel and according to her he is a nice guy and a good friend.
Despite the fact that he is a anti-Jewish, anti-Black, anti-woman & anti-gay, not to mention being a Republican, a religious extremist and the son of a Holocaust denier?
Good point, R11.
I'm fairly certain his sky pal Jesus talks to him every thirty seconds or so.
You're just mad coz you want him and know you could never have him.
It's not just racism, Sugar-tits. There's now Domestic violence.
I was surprised by the warm reception last night for Jamie Foxx, too. Mel, well, his balls are amazing... showing up at something like that. Dear Patty Heaton probably said hello if she was there...
If Mel Gibson has been a very good friend to Jodie, then I respect her even more for standing by him.Don't worry, plenty in Hollywood hate him.
Many of us have absolute assholes in our lives whom we stick by because of history, a sense of loyalty, etc.. Sometimes they are family or extended family members. Sometimes they were there for us at significant parts of our lives. Sometimes we just have big enough hearts to accept them as part of our lives, warts and all.
I don't see why the same shouldn't apply to celebrity friendships.
Mel told me he loved my performance in Les Miz.
[quote]Despite the fact that he is a anti-Jewish, anti-Black, anti-woman & anti-gay, not to mention being a Republican, a religious extremist and the son of a Holocaust denier?
Yup. And I know an Australian actor who knew Mel back in the day (they shared the same agent in Australia long time ago) who said that, in spite of everything that happened, he can't help but like the guy. By the way, when that same agent got really sick, I believe from AIDS related illness, Mel flew to Australia to see him and paid for his medical expenses which were pretty steep. So, when Foster says Mel is a loyal friend, I think there is a lot of truth to it.
Lots of wife beaters, child molesters, etc. are NICE people when they're not beating their wives or raping children.
Was Gibson nominated for something? What was he doing he there? Did someone say Jodie invited him? Well, I'd think he'd be a pariah in Hollywood by now. Vanessa Redgrave got run out of town for saying that "a small group of zionists" were running Hollywood. Of course, she said it on the Academy Awards.
I think people have, if not sympathy, then empathy for Mel Gibson because of his clearly nutbag father and the fact he's obviously untreated for bipolar disorder and attention deficit hyperactivity disorder.
[quote]I think people have, if not sympathy, then empathy for Mel Gibson
Not anymore. Maybe after the first racist diatribe, but not after it's happened multiple times with physically abusive behavior and other bizarre incidents.
I have zero respect for her since she has decided to remain friends with such a reprehensible person as Gibson. Has Hollywood forgiven him? I was hoping someone would smash a bottle over his evil racist/homophobic head.
Perhaps he's the only man who has ever seen her pussy from behind and she, most curiously, liked it.
"Lots of wife beaters, child molesters, etc. are NICE people when they're not beating their wives or raping children"
I haven't read that he beat his wife or raped children. Where does this come from?
" I was hoping someone would smash a bottle over his evil racist/homophobic head"
Then you're not that much better than he is. Wishing violence on someone.
R33, Gibson plead guilty to assaulting Oksana.
And he probably has done worse that we don't know about.
"By the way, when that same agent got really sick, I believe from AIDS related illness, Mel flew to Australia to see him and paid for his medical expenses which were pretty steep. So, when Foster says Mel is a loyal friend, I think there is a lot of truth to it."
Your story about an "agent" with "AIDS related illness" who had all his medical expenses paid for by Mel Gibson sounds like a big, steaming pile of horseshit. Totally unbelieveable.
yeah, i've never found her particularly intelligent either. and i guess i'm one of the few who find her acting inauthentic and unbelievable. like travolta, she seems to be acting, never really inhabiting a role. but lots of people seem to like them, so there you go.
I think every one of us has at least one person close to us with an alcohol problem. I had a family member who, when sober, was the kindest, nicest and most loyal person I had ever known. After a certain amount of alcohol, he became a violent (both verbally and physically) monster. When drunk, he would call those closest to him horrific names and use racist, homophobic words to lash out at them. He finally got his problem under control and has been sober for over 20 years. He is still horrified by his own past behavior. I hope Mel can get clean and sober and once again be the good person that his family and friends loved. Alcohol abuse causes so much damage.
R31 how can he be homophobic and be a loyal friend to Jodie Foster who is a lesbian?
Also didn't he bail out Robert Downey Jr. When he was trying to make a comeback after all his drug problems and couldn't get insurance?
I am not an apologist but if you respect Jodie you have to wonder what the true story about Mel Gibson is. Why would she stick by him if he was as reprehensible as people here say he is? I have no doubt he has (or had) a drinking problem, which may explain many things. And please no one can blame him for the sins of his father. If anything it is the root of his issues.
[quote]how can he be homophobic and be a loyal friend to Jodie Foster who is a lesbian?
I don't know, but are you unfamiliar with Mel's history of antagonism towards the gay community or his previous anti-gay statements?
Perhaps a little research would help you see what some people are saying. Just do a search on google using the words "Mel Gibson & gay" or "Mel Gibson & anti-gay comments" etc. and see what comes up.
[quote]Your story about an "agent" with "AIDS related illness" who had all his medical expenses paid for by Mel Gibson sounds like a big, steaming pile of horseshit. Totally unbelieveable.
I will find out the name of the agent. He was well known and loved in Australia, which has, as you may imagine, a very small film community. My friend knew the agent, was represented by the agent, and was there to see him before he died. And Mel was there.
By the way, I hate this. This is exactly why I don't post anything about film business here anymore.
[quote]Mel Gibson Pleads No Contest to Battery, No Jail Time
Apr 11, 2012
I watched the GG, but wasn't able to finish it. However, I can't bring myself to watch YT clips of JFoster's speech because it makes me feel awful seeing her slightly manic/discomfort/nervousness.
If MGibson did seem astonished as some of you say, maybe the possibility to come out has been discussed between them, yet remained 50/50 up to the last second until JF started on it.
[quote]Also didn't he bail out Robert Downey Jr. When he was trying to make a comeback after all his drug problems and couldn't get insurance?
Yes, I remember RDJ being viewed as a pariah, No one wanted to employ him or insure him. Mel was the only one who stepped in to help him which is why I can understand RDJ being such a supportive friend.
I don't know what Mel did to help Jodie. She thanked him for saving her life of which we will never know as she is so private.
[quote]If MGibson did seem astonished as some of you say, maybe the possibility to come out has been discussed between them, yet remained 50/50 up to the last second until JF started on it.
I, sort of, agree. I don't think he knew it was going to happen.
You can be a racist and definitely a misogynist and still get respect in Hollywood. Gibson destroyed himself with anti Jewish remarks. They gave Polanski an Oscar but won't say hello to Mel Gibson.
Not to point out the obvious, but Mel, Jodie and RDJ all went through traumatic events as celebrities. I would include Jodie feeling the need to not discuss her sexuality in this mix as trauma, since she was the bread-winner for her family at a young age. They can relate to one another, which I don't know is particularly healthy. Sometimes you need conventional boundaries, and Hollywood writes its own rules. I would love to know if it was the worst night ever for Steven Spielberg. Mel Gibson back in the house and being recognized from the stage, and losing best picture and director to Argo. Had to have hurt. It was a great night for Hollywood folklore.
Mel likes to get fucked every now and then
[quote]I would love to know if it was the worst night ever for Steven Spielberg.
The Globes are a joke. Why should that worry Spielberg? Affleck isn't even nominated for a Best Director Oscar so Spielberg may very well be winning his 3rd Best Director Oscar next month, not to mention Best Picture as well.
Gibson looked insane the whole evening, including prior to the non-announcement that sounded more like a middle finger to gay people than anything else.
The psychologizing is unnecessary here. Foster is one of those "I say it and reality forms around my demands" types, and she decided years ago that no one had a right to expect that Gibson be held accountable for his HIDEOUS, PUBLIC BEHAVIOR. Never mind that his psychologically distressed alcoholism, buttressing a mad controlling personality, led to screams against every non-white, non-straight, non-male part of the community. Mel was her friend, and that meant a priori that no one should question his ---- presence.
She's rather a typical example of what an unhappy but financially secure nutjob is. Here I am in public life for 47 years, standing on the stage - AND WHY ARE YOU LOOKING AT ME AND QUESTIONING ME????
Let's not forget, Jodi was at the center of the Reagan shooting in 81.
She never talks about it, but everyone will remember that John Hinckley Jr. stalked her, went to Yale campus to track her down, and supposedly shot Reagan for her.
She was what - 19 or 20? That had to have had a profound impact on her and wanting to keep her life private.
R52, that doesn't explain why she likes a hateful Republican racist asshole like Mel Gibson
From Wikipedia - I didn't know ANOTHER guy followed her at Yale and planned to shoot her too.
John Hinckley, Jr., became obsessed with Foster after watching Taxi Driver a number of times, and stalked her while she attended Yale, sending her love letters to her campus mail box and even talking to her on the phone. On March 30, 1981, he attempted to assassinate U.S. President Ronald Reagan (shooting and wounding Reagan and three others) and claimed his motive was to impress Foster, then a Yale freshman. The media stormed the Yale campus in April "like a cavalry invasion," and followed Foster relentlessly.
The incident caused Foster intense discomfort and reporters have been warned in advance not to bring up the subject in front of her; she has been known to walk out of interviews at the mention of Hinckley's name. In 1991, Foster canceled an interview with NBC's Today Show when she discovered Hinckley would be mentioned in the introduction. Foster's only public reactions to this were a press conference afterwards and an article titled "Why Me?" that she wrote for Esquire in December 1982. In that article she wrote that returning to work on the film Svengali with Peter O'Toole "made me fall in love with acting again" after the assassination attempt had shaken her confidence. In 1999, she discussed the experience with Charlie Rose of 60 Minutes II.
Another man, Edward Richardson, followed Foster around Yale and planned to shoot her, but decided against it because she "was too pretty."
[quote]She never talks about it, but everyone will remember that John Hinckley Jr. stalked her, went to Yale campus to track her down, and supposedly shot Reagan for her.
I wonder how many people really remember this. And I bet young people don't have a clue that it ever happened.
R54, I wouldn't be surprised if the CIA set that up to divert cover from the what may have been the real possible motives behind the assassination attempt
I don't think Mel G. will ever be welcome in Hollywood again.
[quote] how can he be homophobic and be a loyal friend to Jodie Foster who is a lesbian?
Because he's a religious hypocrite.
how can he be homophobic and be a loyal friend to Jodie Foster who is a lesbian?
Because horror of horror a gay guy might hit on him or you know try "gay" things with him. He can sit around and watch porn with a lesbian.
Foster, Gibson and RDJ might all know each other from a 12-step program-- which often creates friendships between unlikely people. I'm 48, so I remember when Foster was busted for cocaine.
Downey is part Jewish. Maybe he was asking Gibson not to kill him.
thank you r60!!!! OMG Jodie was a coke head!!!! Who knew?
She's setting a lousy example for her sons by supporting someone as despicable as Mel Gibson. She's not as smart as she thinks she is.
maybe it is menopause?
r61, I did not know RDJ had one foot in the tribe. Which parent?
Also, what is the traumatic event RDJ went through? (other than his father addicting him to drugs when he was very young)
her youngest son looks a little like Mel Gibson
Looking around the GG room, it's a safe bet there were at least ten people more despicable than Gibson.
It is easy to condemn a person from afar. Not defending Gibson for his heinous acts but people ARE complex, you know. He didn't murder a convent of nuns, after all. He has some mental issues, it seems clear, and yet has done some incredible work over the years, too. He's not ALL bad. He was the #1 movie star in the world for awhile. And he spent a lot of years with a pretty impeccable reputation. People can be "nice" but have anger management issues, you know. . People can be a composite of all sorts of things. People are flawed. It is just that famous people's flaws, and sometimes the WORST of them, get paraded for all the world to see.
I was just thinking along those lines, R66.
Has Foster ever said who fathered her kids? I'm not sure I see Gibson's resemblance in either of them but if he did donate his sperm, that could explain, in part, her loyalty.
Although with Gibson's fundamentalist Catholicism, it's hard to imagine him supporting in vitro (even regular strength Catholicism has doctrine against it). Then again, he's a big ol' bundle of hypocrisy so I could see him rationalizing why it was OK for his friend to use in vitro and for him to participate, but morally wrong for everyone else.
RDJ served jail time. Drug addict and was diagnosed as bipolar. He was uninsurable for a period, so his comeback is impressive. I think MG may have helped him when he needed work. Agree that they all seem like wealthy 12-step buddies. Maybe Mel was once Jodie's sponsor.
[quote] with Gibson's fundamentalist Catholicism, it's hard to imagine him supporting in vitro
perhaps the same way he feels about divorce and the sacrament of marriage?
[quote]Has Foster ever said who fathered her kids?
I remember the gossip at the time was that her close friend, the late Randy Stone (founder of the Trevor Project) was the biological father of her children. I have no idea if that's true.
He licked my hole in the bathroom
Joan Rivers on the Today show in 2007 joking about Jodie Foster the first time she "came out" back then...
[quote]Although with Gibson's fundamentalist Catholicism, it's hard to imagine him supporting in vitro
Well, he divorced his wife and fathered a child outside of marriage with Oksana, so it seems Mel is pretty flexible about such things.
R68...oh shut the fuck up idiot! "Not all bad"...you must be a racist yourself. I can't believe anyone would defend such hateful trash.
It's not often mentioned here, but he and Heath Ledger, who'd once been close, became estranged because of "Brokeback Mountain". Gibson insisted he not do it, but Ledger did it anyway. So Gibson stopped speaking to him. Then, after Ledger's death, Gibson wrote a piece for Entertainment weekly about the loss of his dear friend. I could not believe it.
RDJ pretty much admitted in an interview while in prison that he was involved in a m/m relationship and that that kind of relationship was respected by the inmates.
Susan is a pretty minder that gives Mo (his name inside) legit straight cred with the fraus that love them some Iron Man.
Nobody in Hollywood cares as long as he doesn't make their jobs harder.
I hung with him for awhile, he was getting drunk, and he gets a little belligerent, so I excused myself.
Aside from Hinkley and the other stalker, there was another nut after her.
A Holliston man was arrested yesterday for allegedly threatening to blow up a Los Angeles airport in a handwritten letter that mentioned the actress Jodie Foster, and federal prosecutors said it was nearly identical to about 100 other letters mailed to people in the Los Angeles area since September.
[quote]after Ledger's death, Gibson wrote a piece for Entertainment weekly about the loss of his dear friend. I could not believe it.
Why would that be surprising? Gibson is a total hypocrite. He claimed for years to be a good Christian and a wonderful religious man and turned out to be absolutely vile. He even said his ex-wife would be basically going to hell because she was Episcopalian and not Catholic.
Gibson also had the nerve to talk about how hard he tried to save Ledger (on the Jimmy Kimmel show.) Yeah I'm sure he'd have been a big help.....
Some off-site links to back up the various "facts" on this thread would be nice.
What would you like backed up, R82? Anything in particular?
Gibson likes to hire Asian hookers. It's safe to say the guys a little mixed up.
His friendship with Foster has always made perfect sense to me. All three of them are barely funcitioning individuals, I think overlooking each others flaws would be what's created such loyalty amongst them.
[quote]Gibson also had the nerve to talk about how hard he tried to save Ledger
Save him from what?
Here's one for you, R82:
[quote]Mel Gibson says his wife could be going to hell
Wow, lots of Catholic-hating Jewish bullies on this thread. Grow up. The Old Testament includes words about forgiveness and judgment, too. And The Torah, too.
[quote]if you respect Jodie you have to wonder what the true story about Mel Gibson is.
Jodie is less deserving of your respect than you'd like. She was deeply scarred by her weird childhood and the Hinckley thing... she's a mess. People idealize her because of her intelligence and her air of dignity, but she's every bit as loopy and damaged as most former child stars are (Liz Taylor, Winona Ryder, Kiki Dunst, Tatum O'Neal, etc.).
[quote]He didn't murder a convent of nuns, after all.
He just beat his wife so badly that some of her teeth were knocked out. That's all.
R89, it was the mother of his child, not his wife, but your point is still valid.
Mel is a serial bigot and abuses women. No wonder Meryl had "the flu" and stayed away.
Why would Meryl have been there anyway? She's not nominated for anything this year, is she?
[quote] threatening to blow up a Los Angeles airport
There being so many to choose from?
[quote]She's not nominated for anything this year, is she?
She was nominated last night for Best Actress--Comedy, for "Hope Springs." Thus Jennifer Lawrence's comment on winning the award: "I beat Meryl!"
not having to talk to a room full of Jews is probably fine with Mel.
If he's the type Jodie Foster chooses to associate with, then it says a lot about her as well.
Why was Meryl absent? Anyone know?
Would also like to know why Maggie Smith was absent.
Maggie Smith lives in England. Why would she fly all the way out to Los Angeles from England for the Golden Globes? She's elderly and already has two Oscars... I sure she doesn't really care about winning a GG anymore.
R98, there were all sorts of actors from the UK there. And Maggie Smith has come over in the past.
And she's not that elderly - she's only 78.
[quote][R98], there were all sorts of actors from the UK there. And Maggie Smith has come over in the past.
Most of them were much younger. And many of them either had not won anything bigger before (like Benedict Cumberbatch), or, if they had won something bigger before (like DDL), they were there because they were up for Oscars later too and wanted to loom like good sports.
[quote]And she's not that elderly - she's only 78.
78 is elderly, by any measure.
R100, I guess you don't know a lot of elderly people. Most folks today don't consider themselves elderly or frail or too weak to travel at Maggie Smith's age.
Betty White is 90 and is still working. As is Christopher Lee. As are many others.
Not to apologize for such an absolute fucking pig, but he was very nice to a gay friend of mine who worked with him. He even spent time at the family home in like Montana or something. I thought he had the wide-eyed deer in the headlight look the entire night. He seemed like he was expecting Clooney or Affleck to start pounding his puny head during a commercial. He was clearly unwelcome to anyone other than his tablemates. I saw no footage of Gibson interacting with anyone other than JF and RDJ. And, yes, rehab/group therapy people do make strange bedfellows. Maybe that does have something to do with this bit of total wierdness.
I didn't say she CAN'T travel because of her age; I just suggested she has no reason to travel at her age.
Why would Maggie Smith care about winning a Golden Globe at her age? She has nothing to prove to any studio (since British television made the show), and she already has two Oscars. Why would she care about winning a (generally disesteemed) prize from the Hollywood Foreign Press Association? Especially since she has no interest in the Hollywood establishment.
But flying from London to LA is a long tedious trip....especially when you've already won multiple Emmys, Oscars, BAFTAs, Globes and every other award practically. Did you not see California Suite r101?
[quote]Not to apologize for such an absolute fucking pig, but he was very nice to a gay friend of mine who worked with him.
Amazing how everybody and their brother on this board seems to know someone gay that Mel went out of his way to help!
[quote] Betty White is 90 and is still working.
Not very hard.
You all would beg Mel to shit on you, and then you'd thank him for the privilege.
[quote]Looking around the GG room, it's a safe bet there were at least ten people more despicable than Gibson.
Not a chance.
In his defense r80 Episcopalians are pretty silly as far as religions go. Even Rupert Everett makes fun of them.
Wasn't the scuttlebut back in the day that Mel Gibson was gay, or at least bi? Is he or isn't he? I guess only his hairdresser knows for sure. Maybe as a young actor he put out to get work, and this led to great hatred of gays?
The most virulent, anti-gay men I've met always turn out to be gay or "bi". Just saying.
Yep, R46 nails it.
He is a homophobic racist douchbag who's one redeeming feature is his loyalty to his friends.
Straight guy friends with a Lesbian not a stretch.
But his friendship with Jodie is touching
Is he her sperm donor? That would make alot of sense as to why she defends him.
Interesting theory R113.
Ew I'm so sick of you gays and your scat love
The fact that she invited him or brought him as her date just added insult to injury. I also am amazed that for such a pretty woman, her boys are homely as hell.
"Did anyone talk to Mel Gibson last night?"
Of course they did.
People with good manners can talk to anyone. Even repulsive nasty shits like Gibson.
Just don't mention daddy's divorce...
I don't begrudge Maggie Smith for skipping the show. It's a long trek for a 78 year old who has a ton of awards. And isn't she supposedly not in good health? Weren't there rumors that she had cancer not that long ago?
R122, Maggie Smith had breast cancer about 5 years ago, yes, and she received treatment for it and appears to have recovered. That's why she's been back hard at work.
[quote]In his defense [R80] Episcopalians are pretty silly as far as religions go. Even Rupert Everett makes fun of them.
This is a joke, right? The point is that Mel was expressing his hateful, religious extremism. Which group of people it was is irrelevant.
"Episcopalians are pretty silly as far as religions go. Even Rupert Everett makes fun of them"
You do realize that you *actually* typed those words, don't you...
It doesn't matter what religion Mel's wife was - she could have been Anglican or Baptist. The point was that Mel was saying all non-Catholics are going to hell. He is an extremist. That's the attitude that has led to all of the anti-Jewish, anti-gay and anti-black comments.
You people who think he was a good guy unil the alcohol unhinged him are nuts. He was always an extremist who felt the 10 commandments were for his wife to follow but he could do what he wanted. He and the wife were not separated when he got the mistress pregnant. That was concocted so he could save face. There had been pictures of him with other women in the tabs for years and the wife stayed with him. But he made the mistake of getting another woman pregnant and that was finally the end for her.
I agree with those who think that Gibson may have met RDJ in some recovery activity. I recall when Britney Spears was in the midst of her breakdown, Gibson had her down at his Costa Rican estate for a sober vacation.
Foster, though? I had no idea about her cocaine arrest. She always struck me as someone who is thoroughly over-controlled. Who knows?
R127 makes some relevant points.
Sorry about the bad links upthread. Mel was cozy with Costner, Lucy Lui (not sure about the spelling), and Sarah Paulson in those pix.
There was a recent gossip item about Mel G. partying at the X Games with 20 somethings, so maybe he has just been in recovery while also drinking all these years.
It has been over a year since I posted a comment or contributed anything to Enty. Mainly because I work in this industry and had too many close calls. Anyway - I felt compelled to crawl out of the morass to comment here (though few will read it so late in the day I guess).
I cannot and do not speak for Jodie Foster. I used to know her via Ed Limato in the old ICM days. What I do know is this: She is a total barracuda when it comes to close pals. Why? It goes back to the 80s and when John Hinckley shot Reagan all to win Jodie's love. To say it wrecked her life and career is beyond exact. The entire town closed down on her. She was in college and hoping for a comeback, that dream faded fast. Her agent dropped her and only tabloids cared for her - hounding her night and day. She almost killed herself. She tried many times.
But a few people (including Limato and his roster) saved her life and then her career. She took every ****ty role offered to prove her worth, all while living in a closet. As time progressed, Limato and crew (including Gibson, Gere, Julia, Denzel, Michelle Pf., etc.) all protected her.
She cried in Mel's and Denzel's arms many nights. It took until ACCUSED and SILENCE before studio execs wanted her full time again. Back when Mel did Lethal 1 - he was the hottest star alive. It took his balls and loyalty to force execs to allow Jodie to direct on her own, and if Mel didn't force it - there would be no Lil Man Tate or anything else.
This is why the loyalty.
When Gibson made Air America - the insurance bond wouldn't cover Downey. They refused due to his refusal of a physical (due to drugs). Mel posted the completion bond from his own pocket (as in millions). Even after 50 arrests and rehabs, Mel stood by him. There would have been no more RDJr. had Mel not threatened execs at Warners if they refused to hire RDJr.
Those types of pals in this town are rare and very few. Now, as for Polanski? I do not know him.
Mel Gibson has serious issues and I have talked with him several times in the past few years. All I can say is there’s much, much more to this than anyone knows. That does not excuse him or his drinking and rants. Mel has issues and is trying to get better. I will defend him professionally as he did for me.
For two years people in town gossiped about ME being a dope head. Because I took MORPHINE every day. And Fentanyl patches (very strong). They all said I was a junkie. Some agents and execs stopped speaking to me. My movies got put into turnaround everywhere. Doors closed and invites stopped. Why? Gossip. They never knew that I had a tumor in my spine wrecking my life and killing me with pain daily. I didn't publicize it so they spread gossip. But when a film I produced earned almost a billion dollars? Suddenly they all wanted me again. Even though my tumor has gotten worse and my meds even stronger.
I still can work, am still on meds - but they all come from my oncologist and neurologist – as always. I knew the truth, as did my friends and family. But they just wanted gossip - not compassion.
Two big pals DID stand up for me and stick by me. One was Johnny Depp (who came to my house for my daughter's bday dressed as a pirate!). The other was Mel Gibson (without whom Batman Begins and Dark Knight would still be on a shelf. Though his name is not related to either. True story).
Today? I keep going. We all have to. So anyone might hold judgment until we know ALL the facts. There's always 3 sides to every story. And as MLK said: The measure of a man is how he acts when everything around him crumbles." It's also a measure of loyalty and compassion. They may be stars, but they are people too. Bless you all.
"Oh my God. I'm back. I'm home. All the time, it was... We finally really did it ... You Maniacs! You blew it up! Ah, damn you! God damn you all to hell!"
We are switching to the new platform for The DataLounge this weekend. All of our mobile users have been using it for over a week and all first time users have been using it for about a month - which adds up to well over one million users. So we're ready to end this phase of the testing and move everybody to the new site. (more)
And yes, we've changed the look and some of how it operates.
Yes, we know you just *hate* it in well in advance.
Yes, we know we suck.
Yes, we are the biggest suckers that ever sucked.
But it was time for a change and with the huge shift to mobile it was long overdue. We've taken this opportunity not only to update the look but also make major changes under the hood (or "bonnet" if you're either British or pretentious or both). And we have to prepare for 2016 - a presidential election year where we can normally expect to see a 60% jump in traffic (yes, we've seen 5 presidential elections so far…Christ we're old).
The site has a bunch - nay, plethora - of new features which will make the site more usable: better search, the ability to ignore posters and threads, see link previews, to pick up a thread where you left off, spam and malware filtering and more.
If you want you can go explore and see for yourself, Click here.
And while running the tests we've noticed two interesting reactions to the new system - people are spending more time on the site and more people that come stay around longer and look at more stuff. Both good things. Yay!
Possibly we've not slain all the dragons and there will be issues that come up during the switchover. There's a help button in the lower right hand corner of the page which you can use to send us bug reports.
Please include as much information about the hardware (PC, Mac, Tablet, Phone etc), operating system (Windows, Mac OS, Android, iOS etc) and browser (Chrome, Safari, Opera, Internet Explorer etc) that you are using as possible to help us replicate and fix the problem.
Please note that complaints about colors, fonts, icons and the like are not "bugs" - they are design choices that we've made and we expect one or two cases of world-class bitching. But they won't actually cause headaches, scurvy, heart attacks, Restless Leg Syndrome, Morgellon's Disease or the vapors (but have your smelling salts at hand just in case).
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