Source: Lance Armstrong plans to admit doping to Oprah

In the interview, which is scheduled to air Thursday on the Oprah Winfrey Network, the famed cyclist plans to admit to doping throughout his career but probably will not get into great detail about specific cases and events, the person said. The person spoke to USA TODAY Sports on the condition of anonymity because the person was not authorized to speak publicly about it.

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• Anything to stay in the spotlight.

• [quote]Anything to stay in the spotlight. Oprah or Lance?

• either or

• Agreed. This is just the next phase of his career! I hope it all backfires, too, as I'm sick of celebrities profiting from their lies then profiting again after the fallout from getting caught. I hope he tells the truth, everyone says their I-told-you-sos, and then he is swiftly forgotten about. I also hope that whatever publishing house offers him a book deal loses its shirt. Too many people make an honest way for themselves for vein, self-important, egomaniacal fuckers this Lance Armstrong to get any more attention.

• can't stand what he now stands for and represents. what a failure.

• Amen, r4.

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• God, he sucks. Such an asshole.

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• Lance must have taken one of Oprah's 'life classes' given by Depok Chopra. He's comin' clean.

• I don't think this will help that much. He may be given credit for telling the truth, but he will shatter the hero image he still has with his fanbase of defenders who have stuck their neck out and have believed in his innocence. There were a couple of sports reporters on an Anderson Cooper panel last night discussing this.

• So after all the years of denying it, he's now going to admit it? God, he's as embarassing as closet cases who deny they're gay during the peak of their careers and then come out when their career is over and they have nothing to lose.

• If a tree falls on OWN, does anybody hear it?

• R11, Oprah's peak may have passed, but an interview like this is going to bring her back into the public eye again

• Oprah's not up to it. She'll total softball and then the rest of the media will turn on her, too.

• I did read that if he admits this he is in for a world of lawsuits.

• r4 You're madder than the time Natalie, the time Blair compared her to Moose Jaw Malone.

• I doubt the media will 'turn' on Oprah, R13. R14, if he can't admit to doping because of legal issues, then isn't he stuck?

• Erm, you may have noticed the media is just as happy tearing you down and building you up. And Oprah's been up for a long, long time.

• How long before he publishes a book?

• The fact that Lance is floating this trial balloon in the media shows that he's still a self-serving, scheming asshole. It's all about Lance.

• He's already being sued:

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• I always knew he was hiding something from that first interview with her. They ware walking out side and it just didn't feel right. I think he lied to her then, I wounder if THAT discussion will come up? The French were right all along, or jealous, its a toss up.

• does anybody really care though? I can't believe this is so high-profile, that it's making the news and Oprah is putting Next Chapter on during a special night. Like, were people THAT vested in him?

• R22, Lance Armstrong was a huge name and sports. Wasn't he the record holder for winning more Tour De France titles than anyone else? And when you add in all of the drug & doping scandals, it makes it a big story. As I said above, Anderson Cooper and a couple of sports journalists talked about it on CNN earlier this week.

• Who cares, old news. No one really cares anymore just like no one bought Governator's book about his wife. Now if he said something interesting like the group he led considered him the "town bike" then i would watch.

• If he admits to doping, he could also be charged eith perjury. He has given testimony under oath that he never doped.

• So what can he say, R25?

• The statute for that has run out, R25.

• maybe he'll ask oprah if she beats her chest like a gorilla after taking meaty dumps.

• But a British newspaper is suing him for recovery of libel damages, R27

• So what? Is it any different that Sammy Sosa crying on TV about how he didn't get into the Hall of Fame because he's a negro?

• Is he going to come clean in the style of, everybody who wants a genuine shot at winning does it and I'm just the scapegoat. Or, is it going to be, I am guilty and the whole sport needs to be cleaned up, also. Either way, it's going to be a bullshit-fest so I'm not going to bother to watch.

• Where is Tonya Harding when you need her?

• God, all the Lance defenders must be shitting in their bike shorts. They'll never forgive him for this.

• Don't you think most of his defenders know he was doping? I thought their defense of him was: everybody was doing it but he was still the best, having shifted from him never doping.

• I hope Oprah takes her shoes off and allows her gorgeous feet to be seen on camera. Put them up on a chair. How I would love to slide my tongue between those toes of hers. She has such smooth foot soles too.

• I first read the headline as "admits to doping Oprah"!

• I watched O's interview with David Letterman last week. God DAMN she's fat again.

• I wonder if Sherly Crow understands how lucky she is that she dodged a bullet in not marrying this idiot.

• He's going to cry. Everyone will feel sorry for him. Oprah will be the hero of the week. Her ratings will soar. Maybe the two of them will come out of the closet during this revealing interview. Then people will really feel sorry for the tortured soul. He's been living so many lies. I feel sorry for his poor kids.

• Her ratings won't soar from me...I don't even get OWN!

• Maybe he will cry. What sucks about this is that he'll probably attribute the doping and the "determination" to win at all costs, to his fight with Cancer. He'll play that card. You better believe he's going to milk his cancer survivor status for all the mileage he can get. The one thing that he has done well, on balance, is his LiveStrong Foundation has really done some good work. Now he's had to step away from it. I never liked him. He has those shifty, beady eyes.

• Oprah, the messiah for the ages, just loves these come clean episodes where she plays the understanding and all forgiving Madonna while those confessing are beseeched with *you say what* over and over again. There are no depths to the pit of hate I feel for this phony ass black bitch.

• When does the interview actually happen? The day it airs? CBS is airing a 60 Minutes segment about him on Sunday, supposedly lots more bombshells, making sure they get it out there before his Oprah interview.

• R43 is Anderson doing this expose?

• Fake triumph, fake humility, fake persona, fake fitness, fake contrition - and now an attempt at relevancy after some PR meetings and focus group gleanings, no doubt.

• I don't know R44. I heard part of a radio commercial when I was driving.

• Companies that paid him millions in endorsement money can now sue him.

• [quote]What sucks about this is that he'll probably attribute the doping and the "determination" to win at all costs, to his fight with Cancer. He'll play that card. Most definitely.

• I was so hung over this morning that I read this thread as Lance Armstrong plan to take a dump on Oprah.

• He is already ruined, but make no mistake, he will be COMPLETLEY ruined by this. There is no recovery from this admittance.

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• White guys get a pass -- especially when black gals give it to them.

• To little to late from this obnoxious cheat. Is Oprah hoping for ratings from this self entitled piece of crap?

• [quote]To little to late Oh, dear.

• He's not going to get any more endorsement deals, that's for sure, so I suspect he will disappear now.

• [quote] He'll play that card. Like Obama, Simpson and M Jackson and J Jackson Jr, all play the race card. But that's fine.

• r56, you're not funny, cunt. Of course Armstrong will play the cancer card. It's all he's done. The irony being that he probably got the cancer he got from doping.

• If I were him I'd tell Oprah how all the drugs he took for the cancer, the chemo, etc., all caused him to NEED to take drugs if he were to contiue to inspire people by winning the Tour d' France. He wanted to keep inspiring people so he took the performance enhancing drugs to compensate for what the cancer drugs were doing to him. He still worked hard to win. It was grueling. He would often finish for the day exhausted, near collapse. But he knew a lot of people out here were counting on him. He was inspiring people to survive, to try. He did what he though he had to do to continue. No one can know what it means to be diagnosed with a brain tumor or with testicular cancer at the age he was. No one. It was just devastating. He was determined to fight it by any means necessary. So there. How does that sound. And I'll leave it to you to go over the text and cue n the choked up tears.

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• At first I read the title as "Source: Lance Armstrong plans to admit doping Oprah," and I thought, "Is there nothing this fiend won't stoop to?"

• as long as I don't have to see her enormous ass gobble up a bicycle seat, i'll be fine.

• Armstrong has quite possibly helped made Oprah relevant again.

• She doesn't need his help, R61 - she's one of the most influential women in the world.

• Christ, I'm so sick of hearing about this asshole.

• You can't be all that influential if no one is watching your network.

• R64, it's the several decades as a top-rated show and billion dollar empire that's influential, dear.

• [quote]You better believe he's going to milk his cancer survivor status for all the mileage he can get. The one thing that he has done well, on balance, is his LiveStrong Foundation has really done some good work. Now he's had to step away from it. Charity = tax shelter & promotional vehicle for celebrities. All top athletes have a foundation. And "Livestrong" has been criticized for doing little more than 'spread awareness,' so no, I don't give him much credit for that. Admittedly, many who aren't aware of LA's real personality have been inspired by him. So there's that. I wonder if Opie will dare ask him if his PED caused his cancer to begin with?

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• R63...totally agree. He rode a fucking bicycle. Doped himself up to win, and probably gave himself cancer in the process. The problem is that breeder guys love this sort of asshole.

• [quote]breeder guys love this sort of asshole. Why?

• R68...honestly, I have no idea. But I used to see throngs of them wearing those ridiculous yellow bracelets, guys who'd never given a crap about cancer in their lives. He was a 'man's man' and that turns them on.

• [quote]AP Source: Disgraced cyclist Lance Armstrong to admit to doping during Oprah Winfrey interview

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• What would be great is a massive boycott. People should just not watch this episode of Oprah. Fuck him, and fuck her.

• r65 show business is fickle. When you're up, you're up, and when you're down, well... She hasn't been relevant since she left the Oprah Winfrey Show. If she's in the news, it's because of low OWN ratings or financial losses due to OWN. In any event, Armstrong will put her back in the news.

• He's symbolic of the warped idea America has of what it means to be a man. Self-obsessed, arrogant, relentlessly ambitious and "fit." He must be such a fucking bore. Why are cyclists, even the non-competitive ones, so fucking obsessed?

• I'm not R65 and I actually can't stand Oprah but to say she's not influential in the entertainment world is just fucking stupid.

• I don't think she's influential anymore. She was for nearly 30 years but she's not anymore. At least not until her network viewership improves. You can't have influential if no one is watching. The Armstrong interview will bring in the viewership.

• I still get the gets!

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• We can debate all day whether Oprah has any influence but what's clear is that she no longer has a very visible platform : her syndicated talk show. She used to reach millions and now she doesn't.

• I'm pursuing other options r77. I don't want a daily platform. I'm doing films and hopefully Broadway. (we are looking at a production of Miss Jean Brodie with Quvenzhane Wallis as Mary McGregor and Gabourey Sidibe as Sandy.)

• Oprah is back to acting again, and rumor has it that she could snag a second Best Supporting actress nomination next year for her role in THE BUTLER. And before you guffaw, remember it's Lee Daniels. Halle and Monique. Enough said.

• She is also producing "Help 2: The Revenge"

• Did the Aryan Nation visit DL yet AGAIN??? Why the fuck did this thread devolve into a hatefest against Oprah, Sosa, and others with high melanin content? The focus of the thread ought to be on Mr Lily-white All-American Hero Armstrong. The bottom line is that he is a lying, cheating, antisocial, shitstain. This confession scoop (if, indeed, he confesses anything at all) could have been done by GMA, Today, 60 Minutes, or even with Andy Cohen. Would it have been more legitimate if it had? However, because Oprah happened to get it, *she* may as well be the one was doping and lying for years.

• R81, Thank you! You want to rail against Oprah find another thread. Stay on topic! Typical male white privilege...SMH!

• I hope the only 'outing' he plans on doing is exposing his years of doping.

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• "You TELLLLLL Mother Love!"

• Oprah seems to still be the go to person for the exclusive interviews. She's still a name and therefore, still influential.

• G A Y L E please go fetch my plastic dildo and ball set, I want to show it to Lance-Oprah

• So how few thousands is this going to reach on OWN?

• I see London, I sees France I see Lance's undie pants

• R81, Oprah hasn't been doping for years, she's been conducting softball interviews with disgraced celebs for years, that's the complaint. Having a high melanin content doesn't immune anyone from criticism, sorry.

• G A Y L E Get me another drumbstick NOW- Oprah

• The union for NYC transit will be on strike within a matter of weeks. Obama said, "I've won reelection, who cares."

• Take out the second "to" in the thread title, and this becomes a much more compelling topic.

• Barbara Walters is getting ready to finally pack it in. Diane Sawyer is in her 70's and really not up to it. So actually, Oprah has the name recognition and the stature to now be the premiere go-to Interviewer. If she's smart, and I have every reason to believe she is, she'll continue to "Get" the big enchiladas and leave that asshole Piers Morgan in the dust. He is so damned lucky the gun control issue came up, because he'd be on his way back to the UK so damned fast without it.

• Lance And Matthew I always have my shirt off, 'cause I don't bathe, are lovers.

• Actually OWN has been on a substantial upswing. The believed reason is that Oprah herself started having more visibility on the network and it pumped the ratings. Any big name interview gets good ratings for the network. Don't count Oprah out. Notice all the hatchet job stories stopped? What are they going to say? Oprah is rebounding and all the gleeful doomsayers were wrong? The public still comes to Oprah. If OWN really turns the corner, it will be one of the most amazing turnarounds in show business history, especially since it seemed there was not much, if any, positive press.

• Is this interview pre-recorded? The USADA guy being interviewed tonight says that Armstrong offered the agency a $250K "gift." Needs to be put on the spot about that.

• r96 - Definitely pre-recorded. Plus Oprah's team may have agreed to supply questions in advance. I have pretty low expectations; I can't see Oprah really hammering him on all the technical stuff or character issues. It'll be a puff piece with a couple of "difficult" questions that still allows him to come across sympathetic. Oprah's main audience will be predisposed to forgive the 'cancer warrior.'

• R85 I think she does, especially with people who haven't followed her misstep with the channel. I think most people don't care about her failures and still see her as the old Oprah.

• He lied to the point that he destroyed many other people's lives and stole tens of millions. He drugged himself to the extent that he won not just one year, but SEVEN CONSECUTIVE years of one of the most competitive events in the world. He then parlayed his ill gotten fame into playing on people's sympathies to take hundreds of millions more. His "good" effect on cancer is HIGHLY debatable. You people are seriously deluded as to what the reaction the moment he says the words "I did it" echo across the world. It will be swift and violent. He will instantly become an international pariah. Think Madoff times a thousand, except on a worldwide scale. He will be reviled and hated. The defenders he has left, of which there will be virtually none, will be derided and ignored. He will be sued many times over. He will be prosecuted and possibly jailed. He will never compete in any athletic event again, possibly not because of any committee ruling against him, but because the public won't stand for it. You really don't get what's coming for him. He is pathologically narcissistic and therefore thinks he can charm his way out of this, but the reality is going to be much, much grimmer. I hope for his sake that his narcissism will provide him with enough of a sense of self to keep him from committing suicide because I guarantee that over the course of the next few years that will frequently look like a better option.

• [quote]Is this interview pre-recorded? The interview is supposed to be recorded on Monday. I'm sure they'll make clips available by Tuesday to build the hype for the Thursday night broadcast.

• So... CBS (where Gayle works) is getting their digs in just under the wire tonight. I'll watch 60 Minutes, but I might also watch the CBS morning news show tomorrow. They often comment on the 60 minutes segments from the night before.

• I might be wrong, but I don't think 60 Minutes is running an Armstrong piece on Sunday night, r101. I just checked their schedule on the CBS website and it lists three other stories for tonight. The new "60 Minutes Sports" (or whatever it's called) on Showtime did feature an Armstrong story last week though. That's been rerun many times over the past week and I think that might be the 60 Minutes piece that people refer to.

• Thanks R102. I sort of half-heard a radio commercial for it while I was driving.

• R81= frau. Criticism of someone who happens to be black is not inherently racist, moron. But knee-jerk patronizing of celebs because they are black IS racist. Oprah's not a child who needs you to fly to her defense, cunt. She's a multi-billionaire who's created a lot of damage by endorsing people like Jenny McCarthy and Dr. Suzanne Somers. YOU'RE the racist here, asshole.

• What if he took his shirt off and Oprah and him started tongue kissing?

• r99 - Nah. Most people already think he did it. Some do excuse him because of the cancer deal; many just don't care that much at this point. And it's overreaching to compare him to a criminal like Madoff. I doubt this scandal will even get as much play as Tiger Woods' since LA's time in the spotlight was more or less over before this broke. I'm not saying that there won't be some serious fallout for him personally, but you're overestimating how much outrage people will feel about a bike race, particularly in North America. And I can't stand the guy.

• When Floyd Landis accused LA, I knew then that Lance was a liar and a doper sans pareil.

• LA is doing this interview because, as some stories have it, he needs to "come clean" in order to pursue his FUTURE athletic endeavors. And he will get endorsements, I'll bet. Penitents are beloved (See: Sheen, Charlie).

• R106 doesn't know much about the issue. Just the money he will be sued for from sponsors, insurers, etc. because he acquired it from them fraudulently will be astronomical. And the reaction to a confession - especially how he makes it and if he implicates anyone else - will be nuclear. Then, whatever all the people he's slandered and trashed along the way decide to do in response. Plus, there is the issue of his weird narcissism and who knows in what directions he might take the story. And, all the worms in the woodwork that this will reveal about sport and doping, the operation of the world cycling body and other global sporting associations. Whatever Tiger Woods did it wasn't cheating or being fraudulent to anyone beyond his wife. The ramifications from his affair were between him and his wife only; the ramifications of what Armstrong has done are between him and hundreds if not thousands of other people plus all the fans who naively admired and supported. Tiger's case was big because he was the highest-grossing sportsman and the whole scenario with his wife chasing him with a golf club sensational. But, that story is already over and his sporting career had been sputtering out for some time before that anyway. The implications of an Armstrong confession are huge and there are so many aspects to them, it's beyond "oh, that was naughty of him." Which is why I'm not so sure he will confess, at least not in an unambiguous way. R108, you actually believe that? Do you even know what Armstrong did? It wasn't just a bit of cheating and, well, everyone was doing it so it was bad but not so bad.

• [quote]Then, whatever all the people he's slandered and trashed along the way decide to do in response. Do these folks have any legal recourse? I know there was a cyclist and his wife who were subpeonaed in a case a against Armstrong and were heavily slandered by Armstrong as a result. (it's detailed in other Armstrong threads and the Outside Sport article, I believe). Their sin? They testified and refused to perjure themselves to save his skin. I believe there were also economic repercussions since he pretty much became a persona non grata in the cycling community.

• [quote]Lance Armstrong's 'Tell-All' Interview Could Be A Costly Mistake Jan. 13, 2013 The cyclist Lance Armstrong could lose much more than his already ravaged reputation if he confesses to doping this week during a television interview with Oprah Winfrey -- he could end up in jail. The disgraced Texan's decision to talk to the famed US talk show host has divided opinion, as some say he needs to do something radical to rehabilitate his public profile, while others say speaking out will only make matters worse. The crux of the matter is whether Armstrong, having been stripped of his seven Tour de France titles, will finally admit that he was a drugs cheat. Such a confession would overturn more than a decade of strenuous denials. "If I were his lawyer, I'd be telling him not to do it. I think he's crazy," said Peter Keane, law professor at Golden Gate University in San Francisco, of the cyclist's decision to give the interview, which will be aired Thursday. "He's in considerable jeopardy of some sort of criminal prosecution... for which he could go to prison," Keane said. The threats to Armstrong's liberty stem from the fallen icon's role in the US Postal Service team, where he spent his most successful years in the saddle. Having been paid by the government, the former team leader could face criminal charges for making fraudulent statements to his bosses. He could also be accused of perjury over disclosures made under oath to a US federal jury in 2005. If convicted, each false statement could lead to five years in jail.

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• r109 - I think you're in for a disappointment.

• [quote]Whatever Tiger Woods did it wasn't cheating or being fraudulent to anyone beyond his wife. The ramifications from his affair were between him and his wife only Well actually there could have been a possible legal issue between Woods and some of his sponsors. Woods accepted millions of dollars in sponsorship money to promote a family values image for many of the products he endorsed. He destroyed that image and fraudulently accepted millions of dollars while doing the opposite.

• [quote] Woods accepted millions of dollars in sponsorship money to promote a family values image He did not. He accepted millions to promote a top athelete image.

• R114, as attorney Lisa Bloom and others pointed out at the time, there could have been a lawsuit against Woods under the morals clause of the contract

• Why would I be in for a disappointment, r112? I'm not really expecting Armstrong to confess to much. But, if you don't understand the huge implications of this case, then you are incredibly naive. R113, really? Like, were there clauses in Tiger's contracts saying he was prohibited from sleeping with women other than his wife? Did he do any ads where he stated "Because I would never cheat on my wife you must buy this product"? Not quite the same thing as running an entire doping network that took doping to never-before imagined levels, perhaps involving some of the top figures in the governance of your sport, all dedicated to making sure that you and only you win all the time, and then suing or attempting to crush anyone who made any allegations against you and also perjuring yourself on occasion too. The big story about Armstrong, which is still very much in the shadows, is just what did the UCI, the International Cycling Union, know? There are some implications that they knew exactly what was going on and even encouraged it as they wanted to make a star out of Armstrong because he was making the sport hugely popular. Hence, why Armstrong seemed sometimes to have tipoffs about when he was going to be randomly tested, why some dodgy negative doping test results of his disappeared (there are claims he paid the authorities to hide them), why those who had fallen out of favour with him suddenly found their own tests were coming out negative (see Tyler Hamilton), why the UCI was defending him to the last minute when the USADA story broke out, and, especially, why the UCI never really challenged doping in the Tour de France when everyone knew if was rife. If that story emerges, then every cyclist and cycling team that ever competed in the Tour de France could sue the UCI. This could also explain why Armstrong has felt so confident against all these allegations and doesn't really fear much - because he knows if he goes down, he could take them all down with him. R110, there was an insurance company that had done a deal with Armstrong to pay him certain millions each time he won. They started getting suspicious that he was doping and were reluctant to pay out, so he took them to court to make them pay, where he took an oath and stated defiantly to the court that he had never doped. So, there's a perjury case he would be opening himself up to immediately if he confessed. Armstrong also sued the Sunday Times newspaper for publishing an investigative article that implied he was a doper; he got nearly half a million dollars from them, they might want it back. That's just one case. There is probably a whole bunch of cases where he did something criminal to someone in some way. Armstrong has his fingers in all sorts of pies - he's part-owner in a gold mine! Then there's his scam, Livestrong, which, for anyone who ever bothers to look at what it supposedly does, is only involved in "solidarity groups" and "awareness raising".

• Where did she point that out, r115? What does a morals clause involve? Did Tiger have morals clauses in his contracts? Does it mean, for example, if you cheat on your wife then Nike or Gillette can sue you for millions of dollars or does it mean something more along the lines of your contract can be terminated if a company feels your behaviour is inappropriate to the image of their product. Moreover, wouldn't a clause in a contract stating that if someone had an affair in their private life then they would be subject to all sorts of legal penalties be violating a whole bunch of civil liberties and other human rights laws?

• R117, Tiger's job was to promote a wholesome family values image for the products he endorsed. Having sex with 100 women and totally shattering everything you were supposed to represent made some of the companies very angry. I think it was discussed as a legal option on a Piers Morgan panel on CNN at the time.

• Damien Lewis is married?

• Whoops. That was meant for the GG's thread.

• Any respect that I ever had for The Oprah vanished instantly when I saw the ad for her Joel Osteen,"Life Class(?)"! I was livid. Sometimes when we turn on The CBS Sunday Morning Show,the last few minutes of Osteen's tent revival are there.He was telling the audience that even though the media was making "the gay lifestyle"seem normal to ignore that and remember that god does not condone it. It might sound naive (I'm fifty-two)but I was so hurt hearing this. There were thousands of people in the mega church they were broadcasting from and possibly millions(?) watching at home and I felt so loathed at that moment. I was surprised that would be on a network channel and so blithely stated. Then months later I see Oprah doing that ridiculous thing where she's getting her Life Class ladies all in a lather,and it's for this fucking hater Joel Osteen. Sometimes I really just feel so disillusioned,like what the fuck is that? If it ever comes out that she really is/was gay all along I hope they crucify her!

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• I bet he doesn't do it. He is getting absolutely terrible advice from his legal team. They should tell him to keep lying. I bet he chickens out at the last minute and bails, or he'll double down and lie to Oprah. He has to know that this will go nuclear. Tiger Woods scandal doesn't even come remotely close to this. This is, quite literally, an admission to a broad international conspiracy. It will criminally implicate hundreds of people. If he tells the truth it will be huge.

• [quote]He accepted millions to promote a top athelete image. LOL since when is a golf an athletic game. It's about athletic as bowling and pool. Which we all know you can eat food, drink and play the game all at once.

• Why should he suffer because he cheated. There are 11 million illegal aliens in this country. Obama said, he plans to make it possible for them to stay in this country AND he'll fast track all the applications. OK so what does this say. The MILLIONS of people that went through proper channels can get fucked. That is what it says. It says those who play by the rules are suckers. And PRESIDENT OBAMA says it's OK to cheat. In fact, he'll reward you for it. So why should Lance suffer. How's that different?

• Slow day at the Sockpuppet office, R124?

• Tiger's upsetting some companies who endorsed him because he screwed around with other women was discussed as a legal option on the Piers Morgan show, r118? That puts his case in the same bracket as Armstrong's perjury, legal harrasment, character assassinations, international doping conspiracy, etc. etc.!

• have any of you seen Oprah on CBS morning news today? I heard some excerpts on the radio

• Here's Orpah talking to Gayle, Charlie, and Norah.

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• Oprah. even.

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• VOTN, wasn't Orpah actually meant to be her name but they wrote it wrong on the birth certificate?

• That, or my post-surgery Vicodin is hitting me harder than I thought. Good thing I'm not allowed to drive right now.

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• r124 He has a point, instead of blowing him off, why don't you answer him. How come you are blasting Lance, but letting Obama slide?

• Classic DL rubbish, just ignore it when they're proven wrong

• R121, anyone who really reads the Tanakh or Bible can spot the likes of Joel Osteen from far away. Whatever your thoughts on it, Judeo Christian scripture preaches against praying before people, being seen of men, and taking money to talk about scripture (preachers should have their own day job and not get a salary for their leadership). Not trying to be a religious shit stirrer, just pointing out that according to the very standards painstakingly outlined in the scripture that Osteen claims to refer to, he is reprobate. So yeah, it is disappointing to see yet another false prophet get an Oprah sized platform.

• Trying to read between the lines of what Oprah said on CBS. I don't know her well enough to guess. Any insights? I think it's obviuos he cried but that's about it

• There won't be many lawsuits around endorsements. They would have to prove that they lost money because of involvement. They can't. While his reputation was intact his endorsement brought money to them. His disgrace only allows them to cancel his contract without paying out too much. It's the libel suits that are going to kill him.

• Anyone see Oprah's interview today about the upcoming Lance revelations? What did she say?