SO many people love that brand of coffee. I tried it and found it actually weird tasting. I'm a Tim Hortons regular and I can't understand this attraction to the brand. I am told by friends that people pay for the atmosphere there.
Don't know. I prefer making my own coffee at home with an entire bag that costs the same as 1 cup out, usually Dunkin Donuts. I like Tim Horton's, too. I think I get an XL coffee there for about $1.30. I used to get Starbucks frappe-type drinks, but at $5 each I can make those at home with a cheap machine, also.
As far as atmosphere goes, all the Starbucks around me have less atmosphere than a Subway. Some of the Panera Breads have decent atmosphere, but none of these chain places tend to offer anything more than the typical strip mall or fast food joint.
I've never liked the flavor of Starbuck's coffee.
Their ice cream, however, is delicious; the best coffee ice cream ever and trust me, I've tried them all.
There are charred pubic hairs in their blends. That's what makes it so special.
The coffee snobs at work were discussing coffee chains, and they all agreed that "Starbucks' stores always smell like cat pee."
Not a coffee snob
I dont know if this is still true, but I used to work with a guy from India and his uncle owned a bunch of DDs (shocking, I know). Anyway, he told me that according to his uncle, DD always outbids its competitors for the best coffee beans. I dont doubt it, because its damn good for fast food coffee.
[quote]Don't know. I prefer making my own coffee at home with an entire bag that costs the same as 1 cup out, usually Dunkin Donuts. I like Tim Horton's, too. I think I get an XL coffee there for about $1.30. I used to get Starbucks frappe-type drinks, but at $5 each I can make those at home with a cheap machine, also.
Ditto. I make better coffee with my machine at home and I don't have to go out or pay a ridiculous amount.
IMO people like to think they're being trendy when they go to Starbucks and think they're special when hold a stupid cup with the Starbucks logo on it.
I never knew starbucks was special.
I only get the iced Americanos at Starbucks. They're worth it on a hot summer day. Really hits the spot.
It's awful. It tastes burned.
I'm with OP, it has a strange flavor. I expected much more, but it was nothing special and kind of odd. I haven't had it since.
I've only tried it once at the airport in Atlanta, and a couple of times at turnpike service plazas, and I thought it was so expensive because airports and turnpike plazas are always overpriced. But I did not notice anything special about, nor did I notice anything wrong with it. I'm from Louisiana so naturally very strong Community brand coffee with chicory is what I like.
7-11, Dunkin' Donuts, and McDonald's all have better coffee than Starbucks, if all you want is a good cup of coffee.
McDonald's has been the real game changer of late. Their coffee is getting compliments from people who drink at Tim Horton's and Starbucks. Aroma, the Israeli chain, is in NYC and Toronto mostly. Their coffee is great but stronger than the other local chains.
I used to like Starbuck's because their staff all knew how to make a dry cappuccino - anywhere. . You might get a better cappuccino at an independent coffee place, but if you didn't already know where to go you were way more likely to get something kind of horrible that you'd have to throw out.
It's kind of like McDonalds in that you knew exactly what you were going to get.
Then something changed and now Starbuck's is as much of a crapshoot as any other coffee place.
Peasants, the lot of you.
And that odd flavor in the drip coffee is extra caffein. The NY Times did a piece a few years back which found that Starbucks had twice the caffein of other brands.
I've also been impressed with McDonald's coffee. For many years I tried to avoid McDonald's and then they started serving breakfast. I don't know how people who can't make a simple hamburger that is fit to eat can turn around and do breakfast food which is usually at least mediocre. Nowadays I have long since given up on good food, and I am pleased to find mediocre food away from home.
Rich people drink it.
Dunkin Donuts tastes like water with a brown crayon dipped in it. And - at least in NYC - the "baristas" have to add your milk product from behind the counter, and don't understand any way to do that other than making the coffee white. I see people walking around with cups of white iced beverages from there and it makes me want to puke. I got iced coffee there once because it was convenient and it was orange. ORANGE. The "barista" had to assure me it was indeed coffee, because it looked like tea to me. I took one sip and had to throw it out.
It's not the coffee, but the Starbucks lifestyle!
McDonalds always set the standard for good fast food coffee. I've never had bad, too long on the burner coffee there.
I think Americans are used to blander coffees so that's why chains like Dunkin' Donuts are popular. The quality is consistent, but there's nothing bold or very flavorful about it.
How does Tim Horton's compare other chains?
R19 is on to something. A lot of the times the workers don't know how to actually make a good cup of coffee. It's why I've had good and bad coffee at Stabucks, Dunkin Donuts, McDonalds, Coffee Bean, indie coffehouses.
That's one thing that I find immensely annoying about Dunkin' Donuts, R19. I haven't had it since I left Chicago about 4 years ago, but the custom there was for the server to put ungodly amounts of creamer and sugar in it behind the counter. No sugar is an easy order, but "easy on the milk" produced all sorts of results, usually on the too white side. I think they don't want to cede control over milk/sugar to the customers because it would create crowds that don't easily disperse. Also, in some areas they'd have to deal with sugar packet theft. I'm not kidding.
[quote]How does Tim Horton's compare other chains?
Personally, I found it vile, but I drink my coffee black and I get the impression that Tim Horton's is meant to be adulterated.
The Voice of the Night
Although I made snarky comments above I have to agree Starbucks is better than other chain coffee. A little on the burnt side but actually drinkable and good. The breakfast food are not so bad either and a good deal cheaper than most hotel breakfasts. When I'm staying at a hotel with a Starbucks attached or next door I usually run downstairs to have coffee and breakfast there.
[quote]IMO people like to think they're being trendy when they go to Starbucks and think they're special when hold a stupid cup with the Starbucks logo on it.
Maybe a few people, and maybe even more when Starbucks was the big story during its rapid expansion, but now? I don't think so.
I don't like Starbucks, but by this point it's so "special" simply because a mass audience has become used to it. It's like people who really like Diet Coke more than other diet beverages. It doesn't mean Diet Coke is actually a great beverage, just that it's the go-to for many people.
People who say that they like Tim Horton's and/or Dunkin' Donuts are fans of hot chocolate, not coffee.
REAL coffee is nothing like either of those things. I'm not saying they aren't refreshing, nor am I being a snob. But real honest to goodness coffee is NOT Tim's or Dunkin and quite frankly, even Starbucks is underwhelming.
Did anyone from the Pacific Northwest get to try that $80 bag of Costa Rica coffee Starbucks was selling over the holidays?
It's crap. I've tried and tried and tried to like thier coffee and I just can't.
Sure if you load it up with a cup of sugar or syrup it's tolerable bit the fact that people associate Coffee with this companies product speaks VOLUMES for good marketing.
Tim Hortons coffee tastes like boiled dogshit, but since they roast the beans with nicotine, it keeps idiots addicted and willing to line up for that vile swill. Plus they don't let you mix in your own milk or sugar which is even worse.
R6 you sound ridiculous. Starbucks is as ubiquitious as any other fast food chain, no one is walking around feeling like they're smug because they have a Starbucks cup. You sound insecure.
Tim Hortons is swill, I concur with TVotN. I am a West Coaster, and when I have to spend significant time in the NE, it's like living a nightmare. Dunkin Donuts is pretty terrible, and I would rather drink hotel coffee than that.
As far as chains, I've always like the Coffee Bean and Tea Leaf, and Seattle's Best was my fave before Borders went belly up. Starbucks is okay--their espresso drinks are better than the brewed coffee, which tastes artificial and burned to me. The Americano is the only thing I really order, unless I'm looking for dessert, then I go for a mocha.
McDonalds coffee is great, I will concur.
It's all a matter of taste. I like my coffee at home the best but if I'm out it has to be Starbuck's because I like strong coffee.. Surprisingly I like McDonald's too ( I stopped on a road trip for coffee andthatwas my only choice). Dunkin donuts tastes like burnt water to me.
Okay, R28, so why not share with us what kind of coffee you drink?
What do you prefer VOTN?
R32 = Thinks he is better than everyone else.
If you weren't a snob, you wouldn't have to keep pointing out that you're not.
Making my own, if at all possible.
Then probably 7-11's dark roast, Starbucks' Pike Place, and McDonalds, in that order.
I was a barista at a student coffeehouse in college. I don't consider myself a snob, but I am particular, and I generally prefer the coffee be strong enough to have a spoon stand up straight in it.
I've kind of wanted to get one of those Keurig pod-brewers, because I drink coffee and my husband does not, and the two-cup coffee maker makes slightly too much for just me, but I didn't discover under recently that you can get empty pods to fill with your own coffee.
The Voice of the Night
What I like about Starbucks is those little iced vanilla bean scones, so I stay away. There's a Starbucks in the next block and I've only been there twice.
To save anyone the trouble, I weigh 550 pounds and I'm 4'1".
I'm a Pete's Man.
Can't live without it.
Starbucks nickname Charbucks, because they burn the beans longer than other roasters.
R36 , Keurig sells refillable cups that you can use with your own ground beans...bought one here in Canada for $20. LOVE it, makes perfect one cup brews...can even select stronger or weaker settings as well.
It's those fucking Tassimo shit boxes that you cannot use anything except their godamnned pods.
r31 - No, Tim Horton's coffee does not contain nicotine. Do you believe every urban legend you hear?
I agree with r32. I can't believe people think that Starbucks has any sort of snob appeal. They're in Safeways, ffs.
[quote]I can't believe people think that Starbucks has any sort of snob appeal.
When people spend $5 on one stupid cup of coffee, it comes off as if they think they're special. Or maybe they're just too stupid to realize paying $5 for a cup of coffee is absurd.
[quote]I can't believe people think that Starbucks has any sort of snob appeal. They're in Safeways, ffs.
Do you mind if I splurge and act pretentious for a few minutes once a week?
R14, what happened is they changed their espresso machines. Now the milk gets heated while the shot pours from a timer and the barista can run around doing 12 other things at the same time. They've lost all the artistry of making a decent head of foam.
I drink Starbucks all the time, but it's because I live in Seattle where there's one every two feet. It's a matter of convenience. And I always get a non-fat double tall latte with extra foam and it's just under 3 bucks.
I don't they are anywhere outside of the Pacific NW, but the best cappuccino comes from Peet's. Their coffee is wonderful. They have lovely teas, as well. And they really know how to educate their staff.
[quote]....I get the impression that Tim Horton's is meant to be adulterated.
That must be why everyone who goes there orders "double-double" (2 cream/2 sugar.) Yes, they are often obese. It's shite.
I first visited Seattle around 1986 or so, and Starbucks was a novelty to me. I moved there two years later and it was still regional.
When I moved there, I thought their coffee was a bit burnt and much preferred Seattle's Best. As I lived there longer I discovered all the strange little tucked away places that had good coffee.
I'm wondering. Did Starbucks fuck up Seattle's Best, in terms of a brand? Or is it still OK for corporate chain coffee?
I think it is just Vienna Roast.
Vienna Roast disappeared from my supermarket when Starbucks went viral
[quote] Okay, [R28], so why not share with us what kind of coffee you drink?
I drink a brand out of Philadelphia called La Colombe. They sell it here in Chicago. I also drink Intelligensia coffee.
I don't think of this in "snob" terms. I am not making fun of anyone's tastes. It's just a matter of national preference, really.
But as far as what the majority of the world would consider to be coffee, we have little of it in the US. Tim's and Dunkin is essentially coffee flavored hot chocolate. Even Starbucks is generally sweeter when compared to elsewhere.
R31, could you please fill us in about the time you drank boiled dog shit, otherwise how would you know to make the comparison?
More about Tim Hortons coffee, please, as it is mostly just a name in the US
I buy, grind and brew my own at home. I drink Nespresso pods at work. Debating the merits of fast-food coffee is ridiculous. It's deliberately bland, inoffensive and produced to appeal to the lowest common denominator (ie. the lazy & ignorant). You're all philistines.
Like r44 stated, it's mostly about convenience. It's actually brilliant saturation marketing on their part. I can't go a mile in any direction from home or office without running into a Starbucks.
Some of their blends are okay to good, but some are absolutely nasty. I think they sell unsold Christmas Blend & Pike's Place to Southwest Airlines to fuel their jets.
I'm to the point I'd like to start supporting locally owned & operated cafes. In fact, this Saturday I'll be at Vail, and I've decided to hit up Loaded Joe's or Yeti's Grind. I'm going to avoid the tempting Starbucks location directly on the walking route from the Village parking structure to the Covered Bridge.
R51 how does Nespresso compare with other pod coffee machines? I had Nespresso in a couple of my hotel rooms on a recent visit to Europe And thought it was pretty decent.
I was surprised how good Nespresso is. It's not the best coffee you'll ever drink but it's on par with most good espresso machine coffees. I guess by my own lofty standards I'm a philistine myself, drinking Nestle coffee.
If you mean Peet's Coffee, R38, I agree with you. I'm from the Bay Area originally, where Peet's was born, and IMO it serves the best coffee.
it's like the McDonald's of coffee, nothing special but you know EXACTLY what you'll get.
When I moved from Europe to Canada some 20 years ago, a friend took me to Tim Hortons. After I had a couple of sips, I wanted to vomit. It tasted like mud dissolved in water with sickly amounts of sugar added to it. I suspect their shit coffee is sourced from industrial waste from some third world country. I find Starbucks quite overroasted in taste but it's a vast improvement over Tim Hortons. Having a good coffee shop in the neighbourhood and a decent espresso machine and a Bialetti stove top coffee maker at home, I don't recall the last time I went to either of those two chains.
Is it true about the nicotine in Tim Horton's?
Peet's is much better. Starbucks is too burnt and acidic.
MSG - a glutamate, meaning flavour enhancer
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I avoid Starbucks
Starbucks coffee might have been good back in the early days, but not any more. There's a reason why they sell so many of those awful sweetened, blended drinks.
We buy whole roasted beans from Peets and brew coffee at home. Peets has great beans and it's much more economical.
Its a proven fact that starbucks has a higher amount of caffeine added to their coffee. People are addicted to the higher level of caffeine, not the shiity tasting starbucks product!
starbucks tastes like shit
R48 is right, coffee in North America isn't what the rest of the world drinks. It's not a question of better or worse, just your personal taste. I'm European, I don't like the North American taste in coffee, too burnt and flavourless for me, but I'm guessing a lot of North Americans wouldn't like my preferred coffee (Kenyan blue mountain roast). There are some coffee houses in London that have been there since the 1600s where the coffee is amazing but the surroundings are even better.
r59 & r63 - CBC did a story investigating rumours about Tim Horton's. They tested coffee from Tim's, Starbucks & Second Cup, and Starbucks' regular coffee had a mid-level of caffeine. Tim's had the least. None of them contained nicotine or MSG.
I hate Starbuck's. Like Dunkin Donuts and Gevalia. Haven't been to McDonald's in years but I did used to like their coffee.
I'll stir your choice with my fresh anal finger
When I lived in Seattle, the smoothest naked coffee was from Torrefazzione and Seattle's Best. SB is great 'black', very smooth.
I haven't found a Starbuck's brew that I like, and their shop coffee is gross and burnt tasting. However, Starbuck's Via powder makes for some seriously smooth tasty coffee. It's not cheap but it's great for travel - you just need hot water. The less expensive powder coffee singles aren't as tasty as the Starbucks.
I used to buy Sulawesi blend at Starbucks, but it hasn't been available in years. Very smooth blend with a really bright flavor. Via is expensive, but it's still less than buying a cup on the run.
[quote]I'm European, I don't like the North American taste in coffee
What do you mean, you're European? There's no such thing.
You're fucking ridiculous.
European would be from the continent of Europe. We also say Asian to refer to people from the continent of Asia and some use it to self identify.
R71 YOU are fucking ridiculous.
[quote]some use it to self identify.
Tell them to stop it...NOW! It's idiotic.
I use Starbucks Veranada Blend in my Keurig because I don't like strong coffee. Love the taste. Hate Tim Horton's.
Starbucks have shifted their focus from making coffee to peddling these ridiculous concoctions such as pumpkin spiced lattes and frappuccinos. So, of course, the quality of coffee beans, roasting, etc, becomes a secondary concern.
Tully's. thank you Patrick Dempsey.
I use it in my Kuerig, Italian Roast is my favorite.
I do go to Starbucks regularly because they are the closest thing. I get regular coffee and seasonally I enjoy a gingerbread latte. It's the only specialty drink I ever get because to me it tastes like a holiday.
I'm sure it's full of crap.
The tassimo is a pain in the ass. It never works right half the time.
I've also enjoyed nespresso in a few hotels but the Kuerig is easier to buy for but it doesn't to milk for cappuccinos and such.
I love coffee.
[quote]Kuerig is easier to buy for but it doesn't to milk for cappuccinos and such.
It doesn't make espresso for cappuccinos either. Cappuccinos are made from espresso and milk, not coffee and milk.
We got the CBTL (Coffee Bean and Tea Leaf) machine that has coffee *and* espresso pods. It's surprisingly delicious. The espresso is damn good.
Starbucks coffee is AWFUL
I heard a coffee expert on NPR say that Dunkin Donuts coffee is actually better.
They asked him "why is Starbucks' coffee so bitter?" He said they over-roast the beans, mixing low quality beans in with good ones, to get uniform "flavor".
I like Dunkin's better, always have
R71. Europe is a real place. If you ever get out of your muumuu long enough to get a passport and travel a bit you'd find that out.
FYI. Africa is also a real place. That's where African people come from. Asia is real too. That's where Asian people come from.
Narnia isn't real. Not even if you spend your whole life in that closet looking for it.
The prestige of carrying around a cup with a label on it showing that you spent 6 to 7 bucks on coffee.
7 11 coffee gives me the hershey squirts every time.
I was just wondering this the other day. Coffee has gotten so much better. The coffee in my office is as good as Starbucks now.
A cup of coffee at Starbucks doesn't cost $6 to $7 R85, quit perpetuating that lie.
Hate Starbucks coffee... it all tastes like jet fuel.
And what genius names a blend Pike? Just what a I want: a coffee named after a fish with teeth.
Pike's Place is the location of the original store, I think.
What the hell is wrong with Dunkin Donut's Raspberry iced-tea? Tastes like I imagine cyanide would.