Can we please just let them secede?

Republican Party divide increasingly a matter of region As Washington's budget battles show, a divide in the GOP between its Southern base and the rest of country is widening. WASHINGTON — The budget battles rocking the capital have exposed a deepening fault line within an already fractured Republican Party: the divide between the GOP's solid Southern base and the rest of the country. That regional split became evident when members of the House of Representatives cast votes last week on a budget deal designed to avoid massive tax hikes and spending cuts: Almost 90% of Southern Republicans voted against the "fiscal-cliff" compromise. At the same time, a majority of Republican representatives from outside the South supported the deal, which was approved in large part because of overwhelming Democratic support. (read the rest at the link)

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-gop-analysis-20130106,0,787706.story



• The South has always been an irredeemable backwater and will continue on this path of darkness.For every Lyndon Johnson or Bill Clinton that comes along, there are millions of Mike Huckabees.

• If the next Democratic nominee in 2016 is Hillary, it's possible that she might be able to win back some Southern states like Arkansas that haven't voted Democratic since the Bill Clinton days, but otherwise it may be a lost cause trying to get them back.

• There are some bright spots here and there, and there is always the hope for change. But a lot of it is backwards antigay Jesus-land with a lot of guns and not a lot of brains.

• And to think we had the chance to tell them bye bye forever but then thought the Civil War was a better idea.

• Hillary Clinton could probably win Arkansas. Polling from 2008 shows she would have beaten McCain there. Possibly could win Georgia since Barack Obama finished a strong 2nd there and Bill won the state once. Not sure about Tennessee, Kentucky or West Virginia. Bill won those states twice, but it's been downhill in recent years.

• The South is part of Latin America these days, not North America.

• These days, when I visit Mississippi, Alabama or rural Louisiana, I practically feel like I'm in Oaxaca!

  R6

• Actually, with those three areas, he probably feels like he's in Benin, R7.

• If we let the South secede, can we keep southern Florida (up to Orlando)?

  Charly Krist

• R9 Oh, Charlie, it's always "just the tip" with you, isn't it?

  Lindsay Graham (R-Closet)

• But shouldn't we keep Virginia too? It's voted for Obama twice in a row now, and might vote for the next Democratic nominee too.

• A bump, for discussion. Wouldn't we all like to be split into smaller countries?

• No, R12, we would not all like to be split into smaller countries. What a stupid fucking idea and how cruel to abandon decent Americans in states who will take away their rights and fuck them over so hard they'll never recover from it. President Lincoln was a lot smarter than you are and preserving the Union was the right thing to do. No to secession then, no to secession now, no to secession forever.

• I live in Alabama. I've lived here most of my life. It's a mess, and it will always be a mess. It's astonishing to me that anyone would vote for a party that is run by politicians from the deep South.

• WW for R10!

• It is hilarious how many people on this thread and other threads on DL actually think Hillary has a chance to be President. After ALL the facts about this Benghazi debacle come to light and how she lied lied lied lied she will be lucky not to face jail time. It will NEVER happen. I was rooting hard for her in 2008 - but it is OVER.

• R16 = trolling as hard as he can troll.

• I am from Arkansas. Hillary has ice water in her veins and is a big NWO advocate.

• The south is a little smarter than the north where in New York Hillary the carpet beggar won election, I don't see her winning any southern states, the memory is to fresh and adding her present troubles to that it will be no, no, no. Just watch Primary Colors to get a taste of how the Clinton's operate. Will she still be saying "it's the vast right wing conspiracy"?

• I don't think Hillary would win Arkansas. After leaving the White House, both Clintons bolted for NY. It's pretty obvious they used Arkansas as a springboard for the White House and had no intention of returning.

• The civil war never ended.

• How soon would they go back to having slaves if the USA let them secede this time? I'd like the South to resecede, but I don't want anyone to suffer. And if they get into office in the USA, they'd reinstitute slavery throughout the country.