I know -- I'm a bit late to the show.
But there's no fucking way this guy was up for ANY role on Cheers.
I think that claim was right up there with his claim to be Australian and his claim to be protecting the bears
Everything about Timothy Treadwell was false, including his name. He was Timothy Dexter of Lawn Guyland. He wasn't Australian or a Californian. He wasn't protecting bears; he was harassing them. His Grizzly People "Foundation " was nothing more than a vacation fund to pay for summers filming himself in Alaska. He wasn't a naturalist, he wasn't an ecologist. He wasn't an actor. He was a failed reality show wannabe.
People feel sorry for his supposed girlfriend, but I don't. You deserve to be eaten by a bear if you follow your idiotic, bear-pestering "boyfriend" into a bear maze when you are afraid of bears.
He even tasted a little off!
He committed suicide by bear. He purposefully put his tent right where bears would be walking so a confrontational one would discover him and finish him and his girlfriend off. I watched the documentary Herzog made of his life. They mentioned part of the attack was filmed. I wish it was leaked onto the internet.
Even his heterosexuality was a put-on. He was as gay as a goose--the "girlfriends" were just faghags.
Don't know why you're so cynical about the Cheers casting, OP. His loss was Shelley Long's gain.
I think there was a sound recording of the attack, but no video. Herzog, the old drama queen, moaned in dramatic tones how awful it was (he listened to it) and that it was too awful to include in the movie.
I remember that the audio was played in the movie.
[quote]it was too awful to include in the movie.
R7, the filmed Herzog listening to it with headphones while Timothy's friend sat nearby. She inherited a lot of his stuff, including the tapes, but Herzog advised her to destroy the tapes 'cause it was just too awful. Don't know if she did.
I've never in my life met a straight man who talked, dressed and coiffed himself like that. What kind of woman would seriously pursue him? Notice there's almost nothing known about the girlfriend. No parents or siblings or coworkers comment on her. It seems like she was already half dead
Herzog's "Incident at Loch Ness" won the New American Cinema Award at the Seattle Film Festival in 2004. It was presented as a straight documentary, but without photogenic proof of the Loch Ness monster, nobody took it seriously.
"Grizzly Man" premiered at the 2005 Sundance Film Festival. It has been broadcast on The Discovery Channel and Animal Planet. With delightful high-definition photographs of grizzly bears roaming the Alaskan wilderness, we enthrall to the story of the fey naturalist with a love of bears who gets eaten by one.
Is it a coincidence that we have no photographs of the last supper?
IMDB lists "Timothy Dexter" as the birth name of Timothy Treadwell, who is credited as part of the Camera and Electrical Department for "Grizzly Man."
The DVD release omits a clip from David Letterman's show, when Treadwell was promoting his "Grizzly People" non-profit and Dave joked that he would be eaten by a bear.
I considered him to be mentally ill. I think bears for the most part just want to eat and be left alone. If they see you they will pretty much ignore you but he had to have bear "friends"
He did pick a terrible place to camp and broke the rules he had talked about earlier. There was a very old slightly sick bear hanging around and those are the types that will eat anything, even people because they can't get food any other way. I think he should have received a Darwin Award for dying before he reproduced, his gf too. I did like his fox friends though I hate to admit it.
extreme bi-polar bear
r4 That Jewel chick from the movie was way too proud about being his (ex-) "girlfriend". She was trying hard to be noble when talking about Amy (the dead girlfriend), but you just know she was jealous of her. I think she trolls the Imdb board (as "bearpeople") constantly defending Timothy.
I don't blame him for wanting to run away from society. Didn't he describe some humilitating job where he had to wear a uniform or something. Yeah, he was a bit nutty, but I don't blame him for wanting something different.
[quote]People feel sorry for his supposed girlfriend, but I don't. You deserve to be eaten by a bear if you follow your idiotic, bear-pestering "boyfriend" into a bear maze when you are afraid of bears.
The craziest thing about that is that she was literally "out of the woods". She and Tim were at the airport on their way out of Alaska. Tim screwed up the airline reservations and got into an argument with an "obese" employee. He then threw a hissy-fit and decided to return to the dangerous forest area to spend one more night with the bears, instead of waiting at the airport overnight for the next plane. Of course, the dumb girlfriend went back with him.
Having a stupid boyfriend has been the death of many a woman.
Hear, Hear, R20!
Lots of girls like me!
Charles Manson ("Charlie")
It was a disturbing documentary, because he treated the bears like they were his kids. As the previous poster said, never get close to a sick Bear, because he will eat you alive.
[quote] That Jewel chick from the movie was way too proud about being his (ex-) "girlfriend
She seemed like a dyke
Werner Herzog looks thrilled to be with Jewel Ex-GF
I think Treadwell used a lot of that Grizzly People Foundation money for lots of plastic surgery. If you look at pictures of him through the years, he had work done. He even had a dimple put in his chin.
It really is fascinating stuff. Herzog was totally trolling him, you can tell from the barely concealed contempt in his narration. A theme of his work is that man never wins against the harsh reality of nature.
Treadwell did address the gay issue at one point so was aware how he was perceived. This is one of the first things that comes up on messageboards about it.
The only sensible one was the Eskimo zoologist who said he was interfering with the laws of nature nature and got what he deserved.
He and the girlfriend were morons for going back there out of season. They'd have been sorted for life if they left it at that. To befriend that wilder scary solitary bear was a suicide mission. The ever so sincere Jewel was a dumb cunt as well but hilarious.
You could tell even the pack of placid bears were all wtf and annoyed by his presence but tolerated him. Pity it wasn't polar bears, they wouldn't stand for that shit and he'd be eaten right away.
He was totally mentally ill and there were some real comedy moments."It's Becky and her poop, it came from inside of her!". Just bizarre and unforgettable.
Of course there's speculation that he was so mental because he completely repressed his homosexuality. Funny thing was, he seemed only about half as crazy as that wildly OTT coroner.
Fashion note: loved the dad's insistence on being interviewed indoors with a casual sunglasses clip flip-up look.
I am watching the documentary and wanted to come here to express my disbelief about Timothy. But R27 and many others have already done it.
He must have been mentally ill and I don't think he understood a thing about bears. His rant about the park officials and the poop scene is especially strange and disturbing.
BTW whole documentary online on Youtube
Fucking love Herzog and his documentary about Treadwell is good stuff.
Treadwell was a Grade A, clueless douchebag. He didn't know shit about bears.
Also, the audio of the bear attack has never been made public. If you find a recording online that claims to be the attack, it is not and it is a hoax. Very few people have been allowed access to it, and there was talk that it was going to be destroyed.
I think the documentary makes it pretty clear that this is a story of progressive mental illness that leads to the death of two people. It also is pretty clear that Timothy replaced substance abuse (untreated) with an obsession with bears. That he was probably gay and that his girlfriend was probably also mentally ill (or just a very vulnerable and clueless person for some reason) is beside the point.
I found the documentary a chilling account of a progression of illness into madness and a terrible climax (the brutal audio of the final act).
Hertzog makes quite clear Timothy's delusions and obviously unaddressed problems. A sad and chilling tale- and a terrific film.
I absolutely loved this film. Of course Treadwell was deluded, not to mention mentally ill, but what a fascinating subject for a film. And some of the footage Treadwell shot absolutely mind blowing. But my favorite part is when the fox cub steals his hat and he literally goes insane on camera (that he is filming). Stunning.
His parents seemed nonchalant about the whole thing. It was as if they were expecting it from living through his past exploits.
Not to mention the fact that he was living on a nature preserve the entire time where the bears were protected to start with...