I know this sounds odd, but there's something about really fit confident lesbians that's very appealing.
Joan Jett's video in the link is an example - beautiful woman with an almost impossibly thin torso and worked out body. I know she was (and still is I think) a body builder.
Anyway - anyone else like to chime in? I always see a few lesbian women in gay clubs that just blow me away in how sexy they are.
Boyish, slender, flat-chested and androgynous: yes/maybe. Butch, and all that implies: NO.
Joan Jett (as she looked in the video you posted) may not be the best example, though, OP. She's a cartoonish rock chick, with long hair and in full makeup, although admittedly her energy is pure butch despite the feminine exterior.
Your first paragraph, R1, is the problem. That IS the definition of butch.
I find it hilarious that many young lesbians who say they would never date a butch girl are attracted to women who look like pretty boys.
I mean, if you're going to break these categories down into butch/femme, those androgynes ARE butch. The problem is that the word "butch" has been redefined to mean "faux-masculine, fat & ugly." Butch is butch, ladies. If you look like a young boy, you're sure as fuck not FEMME.
Most Gay men are afraid of (mock) Butch Lesbians.
This thread kinda reeks of the local DL Jesus Freak trying AGAIN, to convince gay men than they can change.
What a weird thread. Straight men are straight because they are attracted to WOMEN. Not boyish, slender, flat-chested and androgynous. They may as well be gay if that's what they want.
Uh, no. I am attracted to MEN!!!!
Completely and Proudly Gay
Straight men who like butch chicks crave the homo sex. It's as close as they can get to being with a man without having to actually be with a man.
Straight guys like tits and ass.
I have NEVER understood by fem lezzes would be all hot over people who are more male than most str8 men?
Nor do I get why "gay" men are interested in CD's but that's another thread I suppose.
[quote]Straight men who like butch chicks crave the homo sex.
I generally disagree with this.
I've seen what I thought was a hot guy in a gay establishment, and it turned out to be a butch lesbian. Disappointment is an understatement.
I've never been surprised when someone that exclusively dates androgynous opposite sex partners turns out to be gay.